#🤝┆gameplay-help
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Wait what? Really?
Hotta of TOF?
yes
Sheesh it is hotta of TOF
They really outdone themselves
It's funny how I started tof
Only 3 days ago and saying
How it's so cluncky. And nte
Of the same dev. I feel so
Bad now that I know it.
Hotta really made nte crazy good
As compared to tof
Jiuyuan is a sub-DPS.
The healing from her 1st dupe is barely useful, you don’t need to care about it.
Besides, you can choose a guaranteed character after 50 pulls on the standard banner.
Don't worry
hottaIt was a game six years ago.
u can notice its hotta because they make another game just p2w like TOF 🥀
TOF is hella p2w
Tof cluncky cuz of Dodge mechanic
And progression issues
u cant even be a dps in raid if u dont swipe
The main line of the game is not difficult.
Don't worry about not being able to play well.
Idk I started 3 days ago
So I can't know that
Nte however seems
Absurdly f2p. Basically a
Free GTA anime
lol, its just avg gacha endgame slop, it will be p2w just like wuwa and such
yes
its 3 minute clock endgame content
You can buy the 1 million Fons gift bag, which is very cheap.
It's helpful for the progress of the game.
It's cheap.
I love the Japanese style.
And there are many scenes like anime.
Woah wuwa? P2w?
I might ignore your opinions
Now if u say wuwa is p2w
I din spend a dime I finish
All contents in wuwa.
If ur opinion is based on wuwa
Says that it's p2w. I think it'll
Fairly be f2p. Since I pretty
Well known what wuwa is like
that ''endgame'' is stupid easy as of rn so we need to see if its slop or not
For example Your name.
wuwa etc were easy in the beginning as well, but they will ramp it up, they follow the same path as those games which is sad. I hoped for more interesting stuff due to their MMO background
but they pretty much do the standard because it makes a lot of money
I need to know how to upgrade
I am f2p like a beggar. I literally
completed all content innit
With having/pulling like 75% of
Units.
The main line can basically skip the plot.
Resident card pool, do not waste resources to draw.
If you have any questions about this game, you can ask me.
Where will the game be available on PC? Any specific platform?
there is a low chance to get this or its just a joke ?
Google Chrome can search.
Hardly need to care.
All games are like this.
Is it available for pre-download as of now?
It seems that you can download it in advance on the 27th.
You can play on the 29th.
I've got Nanali. I want to get exe quickly.
You can get 100$ for 10 friendly invites if ur unlucky as heals ??
How good is she?
What's exe?
I wanna know both
The exe is not out yet.
Nanali doesn't like to wait for another role.
It won't be very strong in the back.
I can teach you how to form a team.
Sure
I draw twice and got nothing so far
Are there elemental reactions in NTE?
when is pre download available?
Any gacha p2w tho, that's the point of gachas
13 hours and 22 minutes
Will Chiz be a dps?
ty
She is onfield dps
ty!!
Np
Yes
In like 13 hours and 17 mins
Utc+8 time is 10:00 am
Utc time is 2:00 am
Of 27th April
What would be the best team that involves Hathor and is she decent? She's defo my fav so far
Hello I have a question regarding the CN and global version, so I'm thinking of downloading the CN version will my acc progress be same or different from the global version as in are they two different apps?
Different servers
so it means i will start fresh on global again right? i can the same email on both?
She pairs well with Nanally
damn, thats like the one character I don't want 😭
i wanna save up on limited pulls until someone I find cool comes :(
I'm in the same situation as you then. Going for Hathor, but not pulling Nanally
does she work with Jiuyuan in any way?
those two are my favs so far + and Fadia
I can look into it and tell you
that'd be super nice of you 🙏
I've heard that hathor, mc, jiuyuan, and chiz is alright
oh interesting 👀 i hate chiz's gameplay but the rest of the team I like a lot, that's cool then
Jiuyuan+Hathor combo would be your ultimate killer for exploration and killing lots of mobs at once. Having MC with them makes your rotation faster, meaning you get more ultimate energy when you activate Charge cycle. For 4th one, Haniel is nice as a buffer. You will be pulling enemies close with Jiuyuan and blasting them with Hathor.
Oh? 👀
Sakiri is also a buffer, but in short mob fights, you most likely would not even activate her buff. So, Haniel is better
You will have a little harder time against Bosses though. But everything can eventually be completed
Endgame requires 2 teams so you can always have Chiz ready for it
yeah so it seems like the hathor mc jiuyuan and chiz team's probs gonna be the one. Maybe ill enjoy chiz once I actually play her, I am just scared of her gimmick lol
I can't say how much resources we will have as we progress. We might not have enough of it to level up two teams at once so I would only focus on 1 for now
If you want a raw truth, Chiz is a character who will do ridiculous amount of damage, but you will only do basic attacks, or at least it will look like you do. Essentially, she is not really flashy. Some people might find her very boring to play
oh thats fine then, so the weird graph thing in her kit is actually not that big of a deal?
Can't you do the same thing with other dps units instead of Hathor?
I'm not super familiar with it since I did not play the game yet. I only have the info available from websites. But you will do more damage if you attack at higher points of graph as far as I know
id assume as much. i just want to play her
Of course, but Lilthara wants to play Hathor
in mobs fights you prob dont need atk buff, but need grouping
tho i think hathor herself can group a little too
Yeah, but suggesting a team with 3x 5 stars at the start is...
mainly i just want hathor + jiuyuan and thats it lol
Skia would be another option instead of Haniel, if you like him
its kinda easy to get tho? 2 from standard, 1 selector, 1 event char. And that's assuming no rerolls or good luck, and no cashback to use
Yeah, if you get everything you want. Thats ideal scenario. And getting 2 from standard might take someone multiple weeks. I can't know how much they play every day/week
You can ask me if you don't understand.
Mainly because of his passive which applies another Remora. Enemies would be basically perma slowed AND you will have perma 10% crit rate from Hathor's passive
Hassall is not strong enough.
Now that I think about it, I might go with that strategy
Since I like Hathor and Skia
Who is Hassall?
I still need to test this theory, but enemies might have lower knockback if they are slowed by remora🤔 Having Remora might be meta actually
At least for mobs
Need a lineup recommendation?
No, thank you. I already made my plans!
HathorCan't match Nanalli
But then again, something might open me to new options. What's your suggestion?
Looking forward to Exe
hathorThe lineup?
yes
i guess she can be strong for teams that can utilize a lot of energy or in break crit team
or just for aoe
ye im gonna play the left team
Hathor main strength is out of combat, giving you more Tetris pieces daily
Need urban tycoon level 18
ye thats fine
Although Hathor is not strong, you can play it if you like.
There is no need for intensity anxiety.
seems like wierd team with long rotation
I kind of gave up on making "the best possible team" that's gonna deal the most amount of damage possible. Now I'm playing with fun combos. Game is really not that hard...there will be people beating everything with 4 stars only
i also like Daffodill and Fadia, so i might use those two on my other team
Thats assuming you get every single 5 star
yeah, kind of just making plans based on who i get
yes!
This game is not difficult.
like if i get Daffodill ill use selector on Fadia and i I get Hathor I'll use selector on Jiuyuan
Then you can save the lottery coupons of the up pool.
There will be a better role for Nanali.
I like these two.
The right one looks cool. I also like lacrimosa
And shinku.
anyway, i saved this pic and depending on my luck ill use it as a guide
ok
I can offer more.
Do you need it?
i mean, im down to see as many teams as possible so i can prepare for the worst lol
Are there any explanations about those teams in the source of those images?
oh also alphard looks sick
Having Daffodil+Baicang with Jiuyuan seems little weird yeah...
i guess all 3 of them can be quick swap burst dpses
At present, the team is basically Nana Li.
idk its in chinese, id believe it xdd
Apart from Nanali, she is the partner of baichang.
The baichang is also the main attack.
Tik Tok.
Chinese version
I am currently in China but I will live in Japan in the future.
yeah, i mean who's posted it, like name of the channel
I don't really like my country.…

Search has a lot.
Can search
异环配队
So it's probably not a fully optimized team comp
all in all, ill probs just wait for release until there's more better info
and better team comps tbh and just do random shit
I'm using the best one now.
This is the best lineup at the moment.
Rarely anyone dives deep into the strategy and reason why they specifically picked certain characters and not the others. Explanations are mostly vague
That's why I started thinking of strategies on my own
To me, if you're going to do theorycrafting, it should be done in a more objective way, fully understanding the underlying mechanics
i guess it can be good in aoe, but not even sure its the best
sadly that takes braincells which i dont have 😭
Well, people want views and want them by doing least amount of work possible🤷♂️
This is currently recognized as the strongest.
Basically in use.
It's really fun when you get into it. For the past 6 months, I've been doing theorycrafting for a card game
If you don't get Nanali, you can use the above team.
Unfortunatelly, in most cases, those "decks" didn't come to light...
tho hows it better in comparison to this one, as example
exeReally handsome.
The role strength of Hathor is t2-t3
well is it tho
it really depends on team
if team can utilize a lot of enery and aoe damage, i dont think she's gonna be weakear than alternatives
This one won't really work
Both teams are missing sakiri
If you are looking at "best teams"
why? 3 burst dps + main dps
she's not really do much
The dmg buff she does is the best in the game for nanally no?
Although I like it very much, few people use Hathor now.
But if you don't need it, nanali can use Hathor.
well its not like its really good buff, and she herself dont do much dmg, so if you just use other character with better damage you'll probably get same or better results
You want Nanally on the field for as long as possible, giving her ultimate energy as much as possible so she can proc her follow up attacks as many times as possible, giving you the most amount of damage. Baicang here does not help, Jiuyuan is little better, but still meh since you only group enemies up with her.
Fadia is what? T1 or T2?
If you want best Nanally team, Hathor needs to be in it
If you get her first dupe her buffs are really good
Wdym does not help, and why you strictly should focus on nanally, and why you think you wont sit on her on-field for long enough time
same for other chars tho
I would argue Nanally+MC+Hathor+Edgar is a contender for best Nanally team
In terms of support I don’t think any other character compares currently
- she’s broken for mob clearing
Nanally is dps, right? The goal of dps is to get them to deal as much damage as possible. Having 2 dpses that each does things on its own brings less damage
Yea rip Fadia
Haniel do, also just by doing more damage you can compensate for buffs, so its not really a requirement for team to have buffs
tho in that team you sit like 1 sec on zero, 2 secs on jiuyuan and 2-3 sec on baicang
No one plays the role of fadia.
💔
Haniel is T0.5 Sakiri is T0
bruh why do the characters i like suck
I mean I haven’t seen a tier list put Haniel above Sakiri yet not in cbt or cn release
this is actually so annoying
Baicang is the main DPS.
I don't have much knowledge of burst Baicang. But I do know I would rather use more ultimate with Nanally to give her more damage while she is on the field
Isn’t he getting powercreeped by Lacrimosa
i haven seen any tier list made by ppls who put any thought in figuring out better team comps
I would recommend channel name Nonpon. He did not put up a tierlist yet, but has really good insight into the game
This is the positioning of this role.
how long do you think she sit on field?
This role is not weak.
He did 0 theorycrafting, so idk why
like he have no clue
I meant it’s not worth investing in bai if they just release lacrimosa later and she’s just an direct upgrade
is she direct upgrade tho? They have different elements
they prob just play together
or will be used in different roles
Lacrimosa is not a main DPS.
same as bai can be not main dps too
you can play him as main dps, yes
I would need to sit and make my rotation for this first so I can't tell you exactly, but I do know you want to use 30% crit damage as much as possible while she has it. Underboss lasts for 6 seconds, can be upgraded to 9. Also, there is Blossom which I believe lasts for 10s (5 blasts every 2s). For now 10s, but CDMG lasts little bit longer, will need to see which would be better: starting rotation again or keep attacking while her buff is still on. We also might be able to get another ultimate, using Edgar which means: Hathor->MC->Nanally dmg->fast Edgar for 120 energy->Nanally again
Wait is she not a main dps?
this tag does not mean character strictly this role and nothing else
Although, I did forget how you get 120 from Edgar, will need to check if getting it for Nanally is possible even🤣
Blossom just elemental reaction, its not tied to some character to be on-field, same as passives
so even if we take 10 secs, and regular 15 sec ult cd, then there's still 5 secs for other chars
Read what it does
Xun is a sub-DPS.
In short, it procs Nanally's follow up
also nanally passive make it fire every 1 second
Okay, so we might lose few secs after 10th second which we will use to attack little more with Nanally, then swap to Edgar to give her 120 energy and she goes back to Ult
so as i said, 1 sec for zero and like 4-5 for other 2 chars
My graphics card is 4060, and 120 frames are a little stressful to play this game.
If you don't have her Awakenings, Blossom and Underboss is the only way to proc it. Unless I missed some other way
I doubt DoT can do it
its not tied to awakening, its her passive skill
She needs to be on the field for her follow up to proc
Because her buff dissapears when she is off field
I think exe is secondary output. What do you think?
yes, but im talking about blossom reaction and vital buds attack frequency
What about them?
Ohhh
Wait, I see. I completely missed that
Okay, even better for Nanally
The reason I wouldn't swap to Hathor and MC to begin new rotation after Nanally's ult is because Delivery Energy from Hathor would be wasted since we will be getting 120 from Edgar
Might do MC if I can proc that buff of his. Dont remember how to do it
Guys, don't spend too much money on Fonce and Ring Stone.
Esper cycle needs to be triggered. I guess its out
When the resident card pool reaches 50, you can choose an S role.
Unless...
im talking about nanally, jiu, zero, bai team
that there's enough time for everyone and it can work
it's just hard to know what works best without any calcs and energy numbers
I see. But one problem is the frequency of Nanally's ultimate
Which results in less damage
is there any problems with that? assuming she's on field for 10 secs, like that's a lot of time
I think it's slow.
If thats enough for her to get close to ultimate, then good. Not sure though
Would you just swap to Baicang to use ult, apply DoT and then dip?
yep
Skill too
yeah
Actually, I didn't think so many people would want to play this game.
hm..assuming you do ult once and he is on field for 2-3s, other 1, possibly 2 times he won't be using ult cuz he won't have energy. Would you still swap to him?
I haven't seen any videos on tiktok with a particularly high number of likes.
But I found out that YouTube has 200,000 followers.
Hey, which items should i choose?
he might tho, we dont know how much energy others generate, there's also energy regen module thing
videos on that app are mostly for entertainment. I wouldn't rely on it for strategy
Even youtube is a stretch
cube and disk, also not sure you even need those black cards from here
He also requires 120, instead of 100 like Nanally
It is very common to have tens of thousands of likes.
true
I would suggest Fons and Cube
You can refer to it
By the way, there is a 1 million Fons gift bag, which is very cheap. I suggest you buy it.
Also, my strategy with Edgar might be little too optimistic. 120 energy is activated every 30 seconds...if there is somehow a way to reduce it to 20s it would be perfect
With 30s, every odd rotation would use 2 Nanally's ultimates and every even 1 ultimate
endgame probably dont require any sustain
at least i can see that from what cn experience rn
It's funny, but Edgar is only here because of his 120 energy. Nothing else
Has the daily reset time for NA been confirmed anywhere? Someone in #🎶┆nte-chat mentioned 5 AM EST but I can't find a source on that
I post these recommendations on the Japanese channel, and some people will say I'm a spoiler.…
He might as well do nothing except that, I would still pick him
Imagine: MC and Edgar on field for 1s. The rest is Hathor for few more secs to build up Delivery. Rest is all Nanally
Let me just check how to activate 120 energy from Edgar. I kind of talk blindly here not knowing exactly how you activate it
What is the highest stamina cap (character pixels) one can reach and how long does it take to get to max from 0?
I don't know because I've never cleared it.
Normally, if you play for a long time, the main line will be over in two or three days.
These are fire thx
Need to trigger Charge with Nanally...which means Hathor is required as well. Will be hard to pull off
Do you think I'm a spoiler?😭
Nah just haters everywhere
Thank you for the useful infos

Has anyone had trouble with the hethereau residents guide? It won't send me a verification code so I can make an ID card, I just keep getting an error message
It's fine even if you don't have this. Don't worry.
a quick question to every1, how much do you think an awakened lvl 6 nannaly carry us? like, till where could she be useful?
hello i cant claim my other stuff please help
you only had one chance to claim items, unfortunately you did so you can't claim anything else
where is that btw
am i allowed to post link to it ?
dm me np
Also there is only 1 time claim
You will maybe have to try another mail
that sucks didnt know that oh well
Very far. That team would be safe for more than a year, even if we assume powercreep
i don’t really care about powercreep
i’ve been a dehya main in fontaine in genshin
sorry if that’s against rules or smt
talking abt other games
I don't know about genshin characters, but no, its not against the rules if you just mention them once or twice
so yeah i’m going for my beloved char nannaly c6💗
okie💗
Then again, it also depends on your playstyle (and skill)
another question, sakiri does buff nannaly right?
it’s good if i choose her and put her in nannaly team right?
Sakiri gives 30% ATK buff, which is nice. For my ideal Nanally team, I wouldn't pick her though
what would u pick for her best team?
advise me 😔🙏🏻
plz
It's still only a theory, not a final product, since I still don't know how to rotate. But here: Nanally, Hathor, Edgar, MC.
Nanally, Hathor, Sakiri, MC works as well. Its just that I have very good Edgar idea
- he is "free"
i sent u a friend request can i talk to u when game releases?
hmm okay then
isn’t Hathor maindps or smt?
two maindps in a team?
You can always message me. I have the option turned on so everyone can message me, a friend or not
okay 🙂↕️💗
I only accept friend requests from the people I personally know, which makes the list small and clean. I don't like a mess😆
kkkk
But yes, everyone can message me for help
She is mostly support
Or sub/burst dps some would say
it can be good, but also other team variants can be better
it also depends on content
hmhm
for example?
another dps instead of sakiri, or haniel
hmm okay
i guess i’ll put hathor then
and some characters can perfrom better in aoe, some in single target too
so there's no real answer who's better atm
Okay, I changed my theory. Edgar won't work
then who?

Found better combo. Still need to read few more things. I can update you after I do it
thankkss
Jiuyuan, Nanally, Hathor, MC. Little harder to get though
But, the thing is...it might be overkill
would this be a good team?
I love Nanally's simple gameplay
Just don't really like her as a character lmao
Jiuyuan has passive that doubles your attacks from Blossom, which means instead of having 10 attacks giving you 100 energy, you will be getting 200 energy from Charge+Blossom alone, without even attacking the enemy
Thats 2 Ults from Nanally in 10 seconds
Without her even attacking
If you attack, you might get 3
Which, obviously, you will attack
Now I can't imagine playing Nanally without Jiuyuan
I completely missed that buff
oh damn, okay then i might get nanally 👀
Yeah...now I'm thinking of grabbing her as well. This feels illegal..
At least on paper
I didn't read much into Hotori, but if she really does what I think she does (doubles your damage you do during time stop)...imagine doing 3-4 Nanally ultimates during that time stop. Thats 6-8 ultimates worth of damage
You would just swap Hotori in and MC out
And thats in only 10 seconds...
This insane combo does not need to exist in this easy combat game😭 
Btw, Hathor is here just to increase duration of Remora cycle from 5 to 12 seconds. This wouldn't be possible without her either since your Charge cycle would expire in 5 seconds originally
Everything works together so well
Will the Preload also be on Mobile?
So, my prediction would be: Nanally, Jiuyuan, MC, Hathor for first half of 1.0 and MC->Hotori 2nd half for top team (if anyone needs)
Yes
Thanks
Nevermind...Hotori is bad for this Nanally strategy🤣
MC beats her🤣
prob it's worth to build it full 'em'
Cycle intensity stat
tho its unknown for me how exactly it works in that game
guys when is the pre download ?
toom
yes
ty for the info
Just guess how generous yall think this game will be for f2p after release? so not including 1.0
Does anybody have an ACCURATE NTE meta list cuz im always getting different answers when I ask whos meta and whos not😭
I thinks its because 1.0 doesnt have much to be meta yet but im assuming nanally chiz and daffodil (the rest aswell this is a guess) all work
I wrote some useful info above
Can you maybe help me teach more about the game i really want to help people if i can (i like helping but usually dont know enough)
If you really want to help people, you need to become familiar with game's mechanics and how different buffs/effects interact with each other. Me listing you all information won't really teach you anything. It will just overwhelm you with information because there is so much of it. Learn each thing one by one
I cant play yet and didnt play beta do you have somewhere i can read up on that?
One thing I can guide you with is how should you start "learning" perhaps🤔
Also could i maybe dm just if i need to check something if i dont understand?
I didn't play beta or CN version. I just read everything on websites
And yes id appreciate that sm
Sure!
is the PC launcher can download?
Not yet. In like ~9hrs
thanks
Can someone tell me where I can find the download platform for the game? For pc (is it like on steam or epic or online?)
For pc it on their official website
Website is still broken even though I turned off my ad-blocker
there's no meta yet
Screenshot?
Also what browser and extensions
no one got to high lvl account, so no one have every character and not build them properly yet
so its hard to define without that who's better
also it can depend a lot on content, aoe vs single target, as example
using oprea gx
Opera GX has a ton of weird stuff with it that prevents a lot of sites from loading
Try in Firefox or Chrome
Still having the same issue with Chrome, when I try to log in to do the id card event
its really frustrating, I even tried on my phone and still same issue
I had to use a VPN just to get it work for me no matter what browser I used
wth that's really dumb
Yeah
What region are you guys in if you don't mind me asking?
I thought they would fix it by now
Est (eastern America)
Strange, I just tried on my end (I'm in Virginia) and it worked fine
I use Spectrum
Same here
Probably a spectrum issue, they might of blocked the connection or something cuz it's over sea idrk
How good is Comcast?
And would it work in an apartment complex?
Ik some internet types need wall or floor cables or something
I have zero idea how easy it would be to change
Comcast is meh, I don't like them but it's what I have
Ah i see
Thank youuu!!!
so on the 29th there should be a download option? or can pre download the launcher now?
The launcher should be available to download in ~8 hours
thank you!
I hope I don't have any problems when I download the launcher tonight 😔
what time in philippines release of pre doanload
<t:1777255200:F>
thanks
Auto adjusts to your time zone so whatever this says on your end is the pre download time

Hello !
I'm contacting you to ask if you can make the inventory available again.
I didn't realize that rewards could only be claimed once, so I selected only one reward instead of the maximum of six.
Someone can help me?
Thank you in advance 😇
It's joever
Unfortunately we cannot provide any help on this , this is a one time only, your available option is to start the event again on another email
I see .... Thank you for the fast answer 😉
How to do 累计收藏1个家具? And what does it say?
gacha games are p2w games
you can pay to win
you can play some of them as f2p sure
but it still p2w games
how long would rerolling take
Around 15-20mins from starting the game to when you unlock the gacha
If u have the option go fiber
do you get any limiteds pulls off the bat
I usually play 2 acc. One f2p and
One to showcase awakenings and stuff
Ya. I think like 10 or 20 pulls from the mail (forgot the actual amount tbh)
No gacha game is p2w, just farm for a year
Just stop needlessly rolling for bad characters
Literal meaning of P2W would be if you get ANY advantage if you pay money, which obviously you do.
The advantage being you need to use less of your brain?
P2W doesn't mean you can't win F2P
Nvm I lie. Just double check. You get the 2200 gems and 1 red dice (from the log in) to pull on the limited banner. Everything else is time/progression gated
If you only buy a game, that's not considered P2W. Think of most old games.
uh...please think about it a little
Arguing about p2w in a single player game I can't 
The only advantage you get would be time save or less skill involved. You don’t get more rewards from spending on character. So your not really winning anything when you’re not competing against anyone
It's not really about multiplayer/singleplayer thing. Its black and white: Do you get advantage if you pay money or not
how much gems does 1 pull cost
160
oh so its still 10+ pulls then
So, are we only looking at singleplayer games from now on?
You need to contextualize said advantage. Name a gacha where content was unbeatable without spending money.
I mean the topic is about gacha which is mostly a single player game
Okay, so then we will compare 2 people that spend equal amount of time in a game. Who is stronger: The one who spent 10k$ or the one that did not
Doesn't matter, their worlds will never cross
They can both clear the content as long as the one they doesn’t spend actually play the game and build
⚰️
They not battle/fighting each other
Guys this is help lounge why are you debating in this channel
Low traffic channel atm it's mostly fine so long as we're civil
Sry I forgot 😅
Pay to progress =/= pay to win
Okay, then I will give you a ridiculous scenario. It's a day 1 of the game. Let's say Sunday. Weekly reset as well. One guy spends 10k$ and maxes his team. The other one tries his best without spending money. Will both of them get to the endgame and grab all the rewards?
I understand where you are coming from. People spend money will have more and better characters, yes.
But they aren’t gonna get more rewards by spending money on character compared to a person that doesn’t spend any money unless the game gate content by making it impossible for a player not spending money to clear
We are not looking "at some point." The fact is, paying money gives you advantage at that very moment you pay for it over the person that does not
Again, these two payers will never meet so how can one hold advantage over the other
Stop comparing your success against others
Okay, I see our standpoints will remain the same. There isn't much more we can do👍
Can iPad 10th gen run this game?
Also at that point they losing because they waste so much investment for so little return.
Not only that, but things are time gated where money won’t help you as much as you think it would. Especially when it comes to gacha where their goal is to retain player engagement as much as possible
You meet the minimum spec
Ahh I see
Tbh, I could just take another route and say "does the one who clears the endgame content really win if he doesn't enjoy the game." Maybe a person who plays once a week and is having a blast, but still at the start of the game wins more
Now we getting philosophical. Who wants to dive deeper
You only win if you clear endgame solo Mint
it was...but then you introduced another factor: time
people saying jiuyuan does less damage than othe dpses is because she's a burst dps and can't stay on the field, or her burst is also inferior to other characters?
Jiuyuan is a subdps that helps gather mobs but also becomes a healer at A1
Hathor or skia for a charge team?
"they're still finishing without paying"
So you need F2P+time = P2W
Even if gacha games are singleplayer, the fact still stands. You clear it faster if you pay money. That's the advantage.
i know that, what i'm asking is, is her dps window (that is short, i know), bad? considering she has so much utility with her ability to gather enemies togheter and her healing?
that's not entirely true. p2w is still stronger in the end because gatchas work on a FOMO style, so time can't compete with money
That too, but I'm just trying to explain it to her even a little bit
I'm not reaching far
Faster doesn t mean more fun, clearing the boss in 30sec and never dodging doesn t mean you won ... for me you just missed the fun of learning mechanics and rotations
She doesn't even acknowledge there is even a little bit of advantage
Advantage is only considered if there is PVP
I introduced that as well. Let me show you
@pseudo vapor
TBH most people I know who have stacked units usually quit the game and overburn before any casual player
fun is relative. People have fun doing pretty much anything. What's fun for you doesn't mean it's fun to someone else and vice-versa. There are people who have fun competing, or oneshotting stuff
Okay, sorry. Let me first ask you this: What is your definition of P2W

I should have started with this..
so arrogant
pay to win is... pay to win. A p2w game is a game that requires you to purchase stuff ingame in order to do well. Like a gatcha that makes endgame unclearable unless you have multiple dupes of a character, or always require you to have the newest character available for every patch (looking at you, HSR)
Okay, I see. Our definitions of P2W are not the same. No point in proving my point then
when the fuck did p2w turn into that instead of just meaning buying shit with real money making you stronger
I don’t think they being arrogant in anyway though. They aren’t looking down on people being f2p. Just two view point that won’t align 
isnt that literally just b2p
All gachas are P2W, they just compete to be F2P friendly
actually f2p friendly isn't the exact contrary of p2w. There's a middle term where you CAN clear content as f2p but requires dedication. f2p friendly is a game that allows you to get everything you want for free, as long as you play properly
yeah gachas are literally the most p2w shit you can play lmao
Yeah...I'm just trying to understand their logic. Although, I do often seem aggressive and people point it out
If you are selling updgrade materials on your cash shop, that s automatically P2W
No? P2w in the gacha is always about content that can’t be clear unless you spend money or a meta that highly prone to power-creep (either from single player content or when it compete against other people in a pvp setting)
The difference is that in gachas we don t feel the weight of it, try to do that in an MMO and even the slightest advantage given to players from spending is instantly considered P2W
B2p. Assuming you mean “buy 2 pay” isn’t event a term in gacha if you take it from the literal sense
wdym always
there isnt a literal definition for any of this shit
Why are we changing the definition fr fr
This isn’t an mmo
ig gacha games are p2w by default so you have to make some new definition for "p2w" that isnt used in any other game genre lmao
you re telling me hoyo is making millions every month and the game is not p2w, ask any f2p player how much time they spent farming to craft a 4 star weapon 💀 meanwhile you can swipe and get the 5 star weapon
They aren’t making millions by forcing you to spend. People spend because that either like the game, want a certain character really bad, or want to have a c6r5
yeah so its p2w bcs they pay to get a more powerful version of a character?
Really ? so you re telling me having a 5mins timer to clear a stage is not a way to DPS check you and force you to spend ?
You can clear the game with a 4 stars character and weapons
No. Because you can still clear it with free character or from getting character that you save your gems for
theres literally no point in this argument if your definition of "p2w" is that if you can even DO that content so theres literally no point in fucking talkign to you about this
Being able to do it free doesn t mean it s not P2W
b2p is buy to play, it's a game that's not free and you gotta buy it... to play. Like god of war, baldur's gate, minecraft, etc
Again different view points on what pay to win mean
P2W is selling advantage (wether it s upgades , currency, characters)
yeah so theres no point in this conversation
Where winds meet (not a gacha) on launch (idk now haven t played since then) is a good exemple of that, 0 advantage to be bought from the shop, only skins and mounts
Counter argument they gave me was: We are not competing in a singleplayer game therefore it is not p2w
how hard is to understand what pay to win means. If you need to pay to win the game, it's p2w. If you got to buy it to play, it's b2p. If you can play for free, it's f2p. That's very straightfoward and not really up to interpretation, we are talking about literal meaning here
The only advantage you have is spending less time on the game or needing less skill. The game is not locked behind needing to spend money
Time is the most valuable thing in the world buddy
I don t mind the P2W aspects of gachas, I m a spender myself, but I won t deny it s not P2W
"literal meaning" shush
What in the game need you to pay to win the game through? When does the game force you to pay?
Okay, IF we assume we are immortal THEN you can say gachas are F2P
🤣
the gacha genre is literally the only place where people use "p2w" the way you are
Gacha is literally gambling, you re not only spending , you re getting robbed for some dopamine 🤣
You don't need to spend in a gacha to advance.
Not games, in real life⚰️ That would mean we could remove "time" from your equation
ok am I allowed to say that most gacha games have a pay real money to get stronger shit in them, im not gonna use the p2w word
You don t but you could, if the possibility exists it s P2W, F2P friendly is where gachas compete... again
You're omitting the fact you get free currency and pulls from playing.
The topic is about gacha game in a gacha game server?
We aren’t talking about racing being a lambo and camry
I'm immortal 🙂 frfr
I'll talk to u after 100 yrs to prove it
Is League of legends P2W? What about Valorant? Fortnite?
yeah im not gonna use p2w as a word here anymore because you people are clearly brainrotted by gacha games
league ? what do you get ? skins ? cosmetics give you 0 advantage
When exactly will pre-download option available on pc?
Champions.
ok and you get more by paying? so you become stronger by paying?
idk what the argument is anymore man lmaoo
You don't pay. I'm playing on the CN server and haven't spent a dime.
I tried explaining...I gave up
in like 6 hours
Champions doesn t have S6 and gear and level up material, I could play Annie and still reach a high rank
ok??? good for you??? you can still pay to get stronger
Thank you, much love
when you can't beat the enemies in the rules imposed by the game (in gatcha rules, time/cycles) without paying. Like you can't get enough pulls to form a proper team that can clear endgame, in gatcha terms again.
Okay buddy
Oh no mod is here, everyone hide
Help me pls, release the game so i can close discord 

Geniune question about the game, for people who played CBT, is the game heavily boss oriented or would building AOE first be better ?
guys where the game is going to be? like on steam or rpic games or where?
and where i can do the predownload when it come out
It's own launched, download will be at https://nte.perfectworld.com/en/
ok ty
Dragging this back down. Pre-download will become available sometime around <t:1777255200:F> (auto adjusts to your time zone)
No. At least not at launch.
will nte be on linux
It uses ACE KLAC so likely DW-Proton will be used to bypass it
Para que es esto?
Hello, to keep the server organized, please use only English in this chat.
Ok
The purpose of this chat is to ask general questions about the NTE
I thought it was for help.
Feel free to scroll up this chat, you may find what you're looking for or smht interesting
Ok
Can't I ask?
You can ask questions as long as it relate to nte
it will run and no @soft spire we are not bypassing ACE, ACE is running as intended and we made sure of it
You can ask questions but in English and NTE related, we will be happy to answer
I'm under the impression that the windows kernel environment can't be replicated so it is "bypassed" while still giving ACE what it wants. Don't claim to know much about it, just the methods used to get games to work.
ACE allows linux to use it, which NTE devs didn't do anything to block us, our work make sure ACE is running as the devs intents for it to run under wine
dwproton is needed for NTE for another reason
ic
This is the system requirement for android.
Below spec.
My phone doesn't have any of that.
Just space and RAM
Rip. Then odds are you’re not gonna be able to run it
Your phone's helio g100 is reviewed at half the gaming score of the sd 855
idk what that translates to in fps in nte
how big will it be on pc
ty
But do you think I can play it?
what time can eu preload the game
I think somewhere around 3-4 AM 27th. Ik in UK it's 3 AM
- <t:1777255200:F>

TLDR drivers were unable to be fired correctly due to how the game fires everything up after you hit launch. The patches created just allow the game to fire correctly. ACE isnt bypassed at all, and is at full functionality.
Just for an easy example, you hit launch and it should go a, b, c, d, etc until the game fires. The main issue is it went a, b, d, c, etc which caused the game to close out and not launch.
Am I able to run this game comfortably at Max Settings? (No PT/RT)
Yea 60fps native looks doable
probably not at max settings but you should be able to run it just fine
Btw, I'm not including any ray/path tracing
that's included in 'max settings'
is the client downloadable now?
For mobile yes, pc in a few hours
My bad. On Benchmarking channels they usually seperate Max Settings and RT/PT stuff. Will I be able to run it? Im okay with upscaling
So ps5 and pc when?
Is the pre-registration still open? And when does the game become playable for EST/UTC?
pc in like 3hrs 50 give or take
you should run it pretty well, your gpu and processor are pretty close to recommended on the requiredments, altho less RAM than recomended.
And PS5?
i was waiting for client download 
what platforms/stores will nte be available on?
Standalone client for PC
MacOS
iOS
Android
PS5
thank youuu
We have no exact time for release. Only that it comes on the 29th utc+8 which could just mean 00:00 (midnight) utc+8
Much thanks
11:00 UTC+8.
Source
Ty
NTE Releaese on <t:1777431600:F>
<t:1777431600:R>
PC Pre-Load available on <t:1777255200:F>
<t:1777255200:R>

woot two hours till pre load
for me
why does it say network error when trying to link my email for the item shop
It's only predownloading the data, servers won't be open until release on 29th April
Oh I can't read, I am not sure, the predownload come from their official website but I am not sure anywhere else
I tried to connect with gmail and I encountered a not working option, no pop up selection box, just unpressable
iirc macos/ios preload was available like around an hour ago
Ok thank you for info
i just preloaded the game on both my mac and ipad
Son
It's windows people are waiting for I think since many people are asking in nte chat
Should be releasing soon anyway
For Android it's been pre released for download
Change your dns or try on different isp. Vpn as a final solution
It’s like that for some people. If you are on pc, try using a cloudflare warp and see that fix it.
If you are on mobile, turn of your ip privacy or use data instead of WiFi
Yeah it is
Teen on google play
akef didnt ask me for a parent email
Ios may have different gamba rules
Just parental monitor and company liability stuff to make sure kid don’t spend a shit ton of money on the game randomly
It asks if you are under 16
I forget minors are pretty common in the gacha space 
ios/mac/ipad are all 13+
wow, i never knew game rating actually mattered...
Only recently (1-2 years) iirc
Age restrictions never stopped me 
i deadass need to get my parents id wth
Sneak
Use a new email?
i cant be bothered to make a whole new email js for 1 game
best thing is just be upfront with it, unless your parents dont like to see you gaming at all
oh yeah i forgot age ratings are regional
iirc some gacha games have it at 15/16+ or 18+
15 is pegi 16 is ersb
so i only have this much space, the download is like typical other gacha games right? download + install directly, no temporary files and bullshit

Hey im stuck on the place for sign in idk what to do 😭🙏
Game not release to play yet if that what you trying to do
But why do i have it
On my phone
It’s a pre-download
So you don’t have to download it later when the game actually release
Oh ok thx i was do hyped bruh
most gacha games do the temporary files bullshit
every hoyo games also does that
fk, so i need another 40gigs to be safe...
you can try downloading the Chinese client first
if it doesn't work then start clearing space
just try to start a download and see if it lets you
ok i made a new email is there no predownload for pc?
don't need to download the whole game
not yet
today but later
oh ok i already downlaoded on my phone
Pc should be in 3h if I'm not mistaken
Is anyone else getting a network error when they try, on a PC, to log into the pre-registration site?
Do u use spectrum as ur Internet provider? Cuz I have that problem with them, I had to use a vpn
No, they aren't my service provider
when is the predownload for pc ?
I see 🤔
Im stuck on the login section, how do i fix this 😭😭
Its not out yet
It's happened multiple times trying on PC. It works everytime on mobile, which is weird
In a couple of hours

Huh very weird
Do we have like a tierlist for the teams that deals most damage?
I think it was mentioned that mobile data works better than Ig wifi like on PC? Vpns also work for PC it's just annoying tho
I use the same wifi on my mobile as my pc though lol
Yeah there are tier lists on CN already
It's pretty routinely happening, so it might be something I might have to message the modmail about?
Either way, thank you for responding and attempting to help 😊
Np, hope they fix this 💜
where even is the pc download? is it going to be the epic store?
Where can I access them?
On YouTube
2 hours.. Official NTE website.. No announcements for being on epic/steam for now
cool, was wondering if its just going to be an official client on the site or 3rd party stores too
I see its on the google play store for pc already
I know mac already has their predownload (from what I seen), I think it's just windows now that needs to be released for predownload
Chat anyone knows if I download the content and my phone burns is it bad :3
What's your phone specs?
256gb and 12gb memory
think they meant your processor
Yeah 😭
Oh idk what that is :<
Is it android or iOS?
what phone do you even have?
Android
These are the specs for android phone:
Minimum Chipset
Snapdragon 855 / Dimensity 8000 / Kirin 990
Recommended Chipset
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 / Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 / Dimensity 9200 / Kirin 9000S
Memory
8 GB RAM or more (Recommended)
Storage
20 GB or more of storage reserved
Yes in two hours
On official NTE website
love how exynos isn't even listed
You can check on settings through device info to get details of your system or search up your phone name and get specs online there.
I don't have a good phone so it always becomes hot when downloading any large sized games (and I am a PC gamer so not sure if it indicative if your phone can handle the game)
feel bad for europeans running samsung
Why
because the international version of samsung flagships run on exynos chips
which are worse than the snapdragons in basically every way
slower, gets hotter, and uses more battery
I think i have snapdragon 7 but ill try anyways thx sm😭
Anyone know if the game is Xbox controller compatible? Like if I connect a controller to my laptop will it work?
Should be I saw some clips on youtube showing that it has controller support
Ok I hope so, cause I hate playing keyboard and mouse (hurts my back) and I don’t have enough storage to run it on my phone and I heard it’s not on Xbox 😭
could just get a keyboard tray and put it in your lap...
That’s lowkey a good idea I never thought of that
do you know the PC specs
why is my pc not supported
you can play the pc version instead
PC install is not available yet. It will go live in the next two hours.
oh ok thank you
YW!
Will they announce when it goes live?
Probably!
OK, thank you also why is it only releasing on Phone and PS5 and not other platforms
If i use apple id for mobile will that ruin the option to use the same account on ps5?
i installed the macos version of NTE, i installed 32gb and now is asking me other 20gb, this is normal?

PC Download is now live.
You need 52GB of space.
Does this Game have any kind of endgame?, like average 2 teams needed on every gacha
its normal, it'll end up being 32gb anyways
?
where
thanks
Any iOS users sign in with iphone but on PC don't see apple sign in?
is this good pick?
on your iphone i believe you can go to game settings, user center and link it with email or google account to be able to use the same account on pc
What does the age have to do with signing in
what does it want my age for i mean
ok
i was wondering because it is making me ask a guardian to play even though i am over the age limit
er
User data is handled differently based on age. Younger people have more protections.
age verification, depending where you live the game is rated 18+
i am over the age needed to play i mean
i heard you should touch the selector standard banner before getting your first S star?
from yt vid
i the us it is 13+
General advice seems to be saving the selector for after you pull a couple S ranks to avoid getting dupes due to the need to eventually make 2 teams.
it stores pictures and videos on device
Can anyone provide the Predownload link for PC?
bro what
Did you even try to say, look at the official website?
thanks
different link
apple sign in is only on ios/ipad/macos
So it's not linkable to save progress between phone/pc?
this website music is BANGING
Ok nice im signed up
have you tried what i said ? going to user center ingame to link?
I'm going to save mine. No 50/50 means the only way to get standard S ranks will be standard pulls from events or whatever other sources the game has since it is generally a bad idea to use the currency for non-limited pulls.
My UIDs match (website login and account on phone) but claims I have pre-existing player data bound and need to try with a different account.
Question. I logged in with my gmail first on the actualy NTE game launcher. However, when I sign in with the email (instead of using the gmail link), its a different account. Is there any way to fix this?
using gmail login system doesn't automatically bound your account with the email system
and now that you created accidentently another account you will have to use gmail to login every time
unless you can ask support to delete it or something

Im trying to login with my google account but Im in a repeating loop of having to relogin. Am I suppsed to create an account outside the game first?
This all seems very messy.
@earnest fjord I answered my own question. You can actually just link it with a different option, then unlink it from the other. Then change it to whatever. You can also delete the account manually but thats a 7 day delay. The Devs really thought about all the angels. I was able to fix it so its the same. That makes me very happy! 🙂
Question how come anytime I try to create an account on the nte website I always get this?
ok it let me log in directly with my email. It told me to set a password in the user settings but I see no such settings.
wait nm
found it
I had that issue as well. For some eason my ISP refuses to connect with thier servers. I ended up having to do it through my phone.
you can just link apple and gmail at the same time
with gmail linked, you can link it with pc/android
once created I am able to connect normally on my PC though
I have an android and I don't see an option to create an account when I go to the website on my phone
should be preregistration
There isnt alot of fanfare when you do it. It confused me a little too. Have you been doing the event on the website?
I'm already preregistered
but like I can't login or anything
ok. when you launch the game you will want to login to whatever email youve been using for that
how do I do the event? can I do it from the game?
no. the event I had to basically turn off my wifi on my phone and run the event through mobile. ISP I had the same error you did. moile data it went through fine
Do you have spectrum ISP?
I have xfinity
For some reson that website hates Spectrum and sounds like xfinity as well. try mobile data if you have that option
another option is a VPN I've been told but I dont personalyl trust VPNs
I got early access and it loaded but it's loading again and now it keeps crashing. 😭
I see what I did.. I made an account with my email as standard. I also use this same email as apple ID. I made the account with AID through phone. I would need to delete my standard email account to link that with my account as an apple account.
I may just play with standard email account..
in the user options it has the ability to link other accounts. I was able to link my email login to my Google account
Make sure you use the same login as the web event. They made it easy to change/link/unlink account in the game. I did the same dumb thing to by using gmail loging instead of email. I was able to fix it though 🙂
I'm curious how this will effect using apple pay
I got it thanks! it works on xfinity hotspots but not my home router
May not matter
Im hoping whatever payment system they end up using doesnt have the strange network issues. At least downloading and updating the game seems fine
does anyone know why when I start to download it i can't load any webpages or even load discord almost like I don't have wifi when i start to download it?
Its probably traking up most of your bandwidth
How many hours till the servers open
Most likely 48 although the CN servers opened 2.5 hours early so you never know
I just did the math. eastern time it will open 11pm April 28
Thx
is the pc download supposed to have "singapore" in the name? it's still global right?
yes
I'm pretty sure they are based out of Singapore, or at least the Global data centers are.
why pre download login need a google password?
because it will auto-login when you get in the game
its faster this way
I am so confused rn
Do we or do we not have a weapon banner
we do
Hello, where should I send my bug reports for the game? I'm experiencing a third-party software error in Roblox immediately after installing NTE, and the issue persists even after uninstalling NTE.
no 50/50 i think
You can send a email to their customer service
Good
#1387700420788617216 this also exists
Thx everyone
Is Google login bugged? I pre registered using my Google account and had some claimed ingame items connected to it from the Hethereau Residents Guide web event. What should I do?
@earnest fjord wait.. just to make sure, is dw-proton the same as proton-ge?
the same as in different version of proton? yes, the exact same? no
Nothing. Wait until the game is live and claim it in the ingame mail
google is prolly under load try again later
dwproton is our fork of cachyOS proton but with patches for gacha games
;w; do you know where i can install dwproton?
oh wait i thought he couldn't login my bad
Oooh i see, i always used heroic launcher for arknights endfield lol
should be avaliable in protonplus or protonup-qt
use this
Lemme see brb
Oooh its in the discovery area? Kk lemme check tyty
we made those endfield patches that GE yoinked lol
i am on linux and am installing game without a problem rn
Im downloading it : D will make sure to follow the tutorial you posted yesterday @earnest fjord
Tysm!!
you can use heroic as well, just add a new game
I- rly? 💀
does faugus work?
dm if you want more help
Lemme check brb
yes, i use faugus
Aight tyty! : D
Nice, i'll install it through there then
yes, i actually couldn't log in using google lol. i guess the alternative way is to sign up using a different email from the email login? i dont know if using my current email that i used from google login to sign up through email login may overwrite the email i used from google. i just only want to pre download the game so yeah
it doesnt login to the same account if you do that no, you would have to login via gmail, go to user center, and link a email via the email system
u can use the same email to do a email log in
besides most gacha game have the option to later connect google account
sign in using your email and then you can link google through the user center in options
alright, thanks
doing in that order doesn't link to the gmail account
so i signed up using my email, will it be possible later to link it to my gmail (which is the same one i used in the email sign in)
Can you tell me if I can link a Google account to this email address I used to log in to the game?
What’s up with 50/50 ?? Can anyone explain 😭
I have the same question.
yeah, itd suck if i cant coz its gonna be an extra step to login etc😭
As far as I know 50/50 doesnt exzist in NTE
Yes. Thats what I did.
can some one explain how the gacha system works?? *because ive heard theres no gacha at all
There issss with pulls ofc
ty
It's a Gatcha term. In alot of current Gatcha games when you hit hard pity you have a 50/50 chance of getting the 5 star you actually ar pulling for. If you fail typically the second hard pity garantees it.
where is the Download link for the pc version?
Thank You!
O my my so there’s none of em here ~ so what’s the situation innit game
Anyways thanks for explaining
When you roll on a limited banner you are guaranteed that character when you get an S rank
This game still had soft and hart pity. I dont know the numbers off the top of my head but after I think 60 pulls you get an increased chance of getting the character your wanting and after 90(?) its garanteed