Add more game modes or lower pity for secret tower

[lyric steppe]

Oh no

[vagrant beacon]

There's like 11 other people or possibly even more who agree with the suggestion. Also possibly saw this whole debate

[steep atlas]

they are dumb people

[vagrant beacon]

Well we came to a conclusion with our conversation as is so I dont see the problem

Hell it could be the reason why noob tower defense games die. Because they dont value the players time.

[loud patrol]

the secrets are meant to be SECRET.

they are OP

they arent meant for everyone to have

the are meant to be very very valuable and rare

theres already a lot in circulation

[vagrant beacon]

Oh im aware but the bridge between rarities is insane if you compare the pity for them

[steady maple]

is this the thread that wants to make secrets 1/1k for the pity

...

when a secret is 1/10k

[loud patrol]

its not meant to be eaily obtainable

[vagrant beacon]

It doesn't need to be 1k but it definitely needs to at least bridge with other rarities

[loud patrol]

its meant to be a real challenge

[steady maple]

bro

a secret is 1/10k

why would the pity be any lower than 10k

[crude lake]

@vagrant beaconu r an idiot. i have absolutely no other words to say to you.

[steady maple]

troll suggestion

[vagrant beacon]

Im serious

[loud patrol]

dont be rude, hes making a suggestion

[steady maple]

i cant take this seriously sorry

[loud patrol]

verbal warning

[crude lake]

delete the post

[vagrant beacon]

Well if not to lower it then to add more than endless to make it make sense then

There is that second option within the suggestion

[steady maple]

i dont think lowering the pity makess sense

[loud patrol]

well what gamemodes do you suggest?

what can you think of thats different that what were adding

[vagrant beacon]

There's a lot of great options such as raid mode, PVP, even a story mode to give the game lore would also work

The community themselves have an endless amount of ideas

[crude lake]

u can get like 15k coins a game bro 😭 u can to secret pity within 60 games which are like 3 minutes each with 3x speed 😭 thats up to at most 200 minutes to get 1 secret 😭

[loud patrol]

raid mode? plus we arent looking for a story

[vagrant beacon]

It's similar to gathering an enlarged group of players on a giant map to face off against an enemy that's powerful enough to require that many players.

With of course the reward being high

[loud patrol]

also this TD community is very simmilar to other communities who disliked PVP modes

[loud patrol]

so extreme and endless?

[crude lake]

so, extreme with 4 players and mods?

[loud patrol]

we could take it inot account with a poll

but

its still not something we are immediately looking into

[vagrant beacon]

More than 4 players

[loud patrol]

its a single dev

[vagrant beacon]

You essentially get the idea tho of bring-

What

Why do I have

[steady maple]

what you talking about

[vagrant beacon]

💀

[vagrant beacon]

To have a variety of gamemodes besides my own ideas. There's an endless pool of imagination just waiting to be discovered

All it takes is an attempt

Btw who gave me owner roll 💀

[steady maple]

i dont think you had one

[vagrant beacon]

No i definitely saw @opal schooner took a screen shot 💀

[vagrant beacon]

But besides that of course

[opal schooner]

What did I do

[vagrant beacon]

Oh there's multiple people named that

Ah nuts

[opal schooner]

Sound

[steady maple]

@opal schooner @crude lake

[vagrant beacon]

Why is there multiple Ashton lol

[opal schooner]

Cus its a sexy name

[steady maple]

i like u bro

[opal schooner]

I luke u more bro

[steady maple]

nah i like u

[crude lake]

happy 2 years late bday

[loud patrol]

why are you 2 years old mate

[vagrant beacon]

[crude lake]

wrong guy

[vagrant beacon]

Yea i realized it

[opal schooner]

I dunno mate came out the womb not long ago

[loud patrol]

sound

[vagrant beacon]

But yall do understand at least right?

[crude lake]

anyway

can u delete the thread

its awful

[vagrant beacon]

It's awful to even suggest more game modes?

Im still waiting for a answer btw

Before I delete this

[crude lake]

The 1000 pity

Is

Horrid

[vagrant beacon]

It doesnt have to be that

But it can bridge to that

[steady maple]

how r u owner

[vagrant beacon]

With other rarities

[opal schooner]

Thats pretty cool that

[vagrant beacon]

I get that a full Raid or Story mode is a massive mountain of work for a solo dev, so I'm not expecting that overnight. But the main issue I'm looking at is endgame retention. If a player goes weeks without making progress because of 1/10k RNG, they just burn out and quit.

Instead of a new mode, what about a low-code compromise? Just add a deterministic weekly challenge or milestone on existing maps that gives a specific token. Let players save those tokens to slowly bridge the gap toward a guaranteed pity. It keeps the base drop rates rare, but gives dedicated players a clear reason to log in every day because their time spent equals guaranteed progress. Just something to think about for the long-term health of the player base.

Other than crystals for crates

[vagrant beacon]

Can I at least get your input for this or has a choice been made already

[vagrant beacon]

Damn

Looks like I've lost faith today

[nimble isle]

Really you only have to grind for like an hour a day for 1 week and you can get a secret

[orchid hemlock]

Fr

Js dropped accidentaly 1 today

No pots no nothing

I js went over pity accidentally

[chrome light]

Btw gang, he left the server already. Is it a reasonable quit? I wonder.......

[chrome light]

Sadly, I've been doing that exactly the same u suggested, but to no avail. Anyways, pity dont need to be reduced, and i think extreme is already good enough as it is as a coin grind

[orchid hemlock]

It was obvious

[austere otter]

The rich will never allow this

Let the rich stay rich and the poor get poorer

[olive pivot]

exactly

[orchid hemlock]

If u lower pity obviously Rich getting more richer jtw

Btw*

[olive pivot]

No? Because then secrets Values will crash down basically making them worthless

[orchid hemlock]

Yes and but still u getting more rich of secrets

So why should they lower the pity

[olive pivot]

You don't tho? If the secret prices drop to to 10-30k You can have 20 secrets and you still will be 'broke'

And I'm against dropping it

[orchid hemlock]

more like 100 of secrets+

[olive pivot]

Yeah

[orchid hemlock]

10k pity is perfect

[olive pivot]

Exactly

[chrome light]

this is perfect lets not talk here anymore