SECRET PITY/CHANCES TOOOOOO HIGH

[tulip sorrel]

😱

[naive yew]

The value

[tulip sorrel]

i noticed and its like after this pity update looks like more people are getting him

[naive yew]

Am trying to get apex on it

[naive yew]

Yep

[tulip sorrel]

my serial is #20 and now 25 exists

[naive yew]

My serial #24

[young mesa]

everyone but me

[naive yew]

Id say like every day around 2 gets summoned

[naive yew]

There not a lot of shiny secret

[tulip sorrel]

im happy my serial looks cool

[naive yew]

Yep also does lower serial do anything to value

[tulip sorrel]

ye

[naive yew]

K

[tulip sorrel]

and i think exotic numbers increase too

[naive yew]

Next upd prob gonna be another secret to grind

[tulip sorrel]

like #67 or #1111 prob increase

[naive yew]

#911

#9 and #10, #21

[naive yew]

#1 value tho

[tulip sorrel]

#1 is godly

idk maybe a mod has #1

[young mesa]

i will never have a secret

[naive yew]

Same for me before i rolled one from PITY but u will

Sadly gotta grind a lot for secret pity

[naive yew]

Yep

[young mesa]

why dont i have it with 3k pity

a secret*

[naive yew]

Low chance and secret pity is 10k

[young mesa]

its too much 10k

i have 30+ hours on the game

[naive yew]

Yes

[naive yew]

Dang

[young mesa]

can you help me grind

[naive yew]

Sorry but gonna play something else u can check in #🫂│looking-for-players

[blazing pewter]

i have 134h dude

[mellow grail]

this update gonna make game die

[brisk prawn]

bro just grind i grinded like 10h and got retro zenith

it isnt that hard

ur just lazy

10k summons pity is perfect balanced

[short musk]

you grinded 10 hrs straight?

[brisk prawn]

nope

2/3 hours sessions

[short musk]

ok

[brisk prawn]

skill issue

[young mesa]

shut up

you got lucky

[brisk prawn]

licky?

[young mesa]

while i have some of the worst luck oat

[brisk prawn]

i summoned 10k times

got it form pity

xdd

[short musk]

find 2 - 3 people that have secrets. if you have mythicals with apex and void you should be good. put some modifiers on and 3x and your coin potions and if u grind for just an our straight you’ll have 100k already

it’s honestly better to not unbox a secret so when you buy the retro banner and u have pity u can guarantee a retro secret

👍

[young mesa]

bro everyone wants people with secrets

[short musk]

i don’t have secrets

[young mesa]

no secrets means i cant join

[brisk prawn]

no

[short musk]

and i did that exact thing

[brisk prawn]

i grinded with people who didnt have

[short musk]

that’s just false

look harder

i still don’t have any secrets btw

[brisk prawn]

getting secret is fr easy u can get 100k+ coins per jour without secret

js find team

[short musk]

he’s just coping and finding excuses lol

[young mesa]

bro

i have 30 hourso n this game and i have 3k secret pity

[short musk]

30 hours is not a lot

it doesn’t show anything

you can be sitting in lobby

you can be in hard-easy mode

you can be grinding extreme WITHOUT potions

i got 2k pity yesterday from 2-3 hours of grinding

not even in one sitting

[young mesa]

its alot compared to any other tower defense game

[brisk prawn]

nooe

try to grind for hacker in tds from zero

good luck

without team

[young mesa]

that will take me about 10-15 hours

[brisk prawn]

u can atleast fsrm here solo

[brisk prawn]

1 hc is 40min brochacho

getting towers

to win hc

is like 5/10hours

ik ciz i played alot

[young mesa]

boi

idc about winning

but strategy

the military base and farm one

[blazing pewter]

ppl be little crybaby 😑

[brisk prawn]

fr

[naive yew]

I reached secret pity today (1st secret) and got shiny retro zenith #25

[naive yew]

Dont get how it lazy to not play a game

[naive yew]

What if the team isnt a team

[brisk prawn]

SHINY SON

HOLY LUCKY

itd like 2m

[naive yew]

Yes for first secret somehow

[brisk prawn]

bro already ended game

give me this

it was promised for me

3000 years ago

[naive yew]

💀

[blazing pewter]

the guy who said secret pity too high btw ✌️✌️

[naive yew]

Inverse mod worth more but yea this like one of the best units until another secret gets added on endless upd

[naive yew]

I got it today

Wrote this days ago

[blazing pewter]

cool

[blazing pewter]

so do u retire ur statement ?

[naive yew]

Maybe but secret pity id say need to be lowered to like 9k-9.5k

[blazing pewter]

no 10k is fine

[naive yew]

10k is 1k too much

[blazing pewter]

no it's not

[blazing pewter]

at least yk it

[naive yew]

Now

Since the update delay

I think gta 6 will be released after endless upd

[brisk prawn]

its not

itd 900k coin

not 1m

[naive yew]

9k pity

[brisk prawn]

it is kike 9k pity

ciz

u paying 900 for 10 summons instead of 1k

[naive yew]

1k difference

[brisk prawn]

1 hour differenxe

its already easy

[naive yew]

1 year difference

[brisk prawn]

im palying for 6 days and already got 3 secrets

[naive yew]

1-2 years dagestan different

[naive yew]

Was it from pity

[brisk prawn]

yes

1 from tra

ding

[naive yew]

I do not play noob td that much

Im not a no life rod

[brisk prawn]

im noy too

bro

i played 2/3 hours a day

[naive yew]

2/3 hours dagestan?

[brisk prawn]

cornbal

[naive yew]

NOMCornpuff ball with cheese

[naive yew]

Balls made of corn?

Next level tech?

[mellow grail]

.

[young mesa]

Shut up

[next stag]

actually 900k if you do 10 spins, and 1.8mil for retro- still i think its too much

[blazing pewter]

how is it too much

[brisk prawn]

bro its not

[blazing pewter]

fr

[brisk prawn]

perfect balanced

o grinded yesterday for 2h and got 200k+ it was with t3 pot so with t5 its hella easy

[flat moss]

they should add perks that can lower pity chance and better rarity than secret since there's secret pity, the next rarity should have no pity chance

[brisk prawn]

theres always secret pity bradar

js not visible

[naive yew]

It visible now

After endless mode delay like gta 6

96 star wanted lvl
1 star wanted lvl was automatic

[next stag]

It is visible since yesterday

[blazing pewter]

2 day's actualy

[flat moss]

learn english understanding, its free

[brisk prawn]

its not

time isnt free

[flat moss]

your problem, not mine

[young mesa]

i been looking at teams for days and i havent made any progress

and then u tell me that we are crybabies

like get out

actually get out

[blazing pewter]

🤣

[young mesa]

control your temper little man

[blazing pewter]

dude i'am prob tiwice ur age

[young mesa]

and how old are you

[blazing pewter]

27

[young mesa]

Do you have a job

Also your 11 months close to guessing my age

[blazing pewter]

yes i have

[young mesa]

And what is it

[blazing pewter]

i'am

[young mesa]

A investor huh

[blazing pewter]

ye

[young mesa]

Are you doing good or bad

[blazing pewter]

both 😔

[young mesa]

[blazing pewter]

vro

[young mesa]

Quit this game and focus more

[next stag]

Depends where you live

[blazing pewter]

i'am alr rich

[slate shadow]

hi

[deft marlin]

1.2k messages

[flat moss]

we can duo, I'm able to win extreme even no secret with 2 modifiers

[amber burrow]

2 ?!
Which ones

[junior bronze]

last life and rush probably

[verbal lynx]

After seeing this i have hope now

Bringing it down to 1k will finally let me be able to do more.

10k is too much

[zenith knot]

No it's not

[flat moss]

perks to make pity chance lower is better, its not grind anymore if they just straight up lower the pity chance

[verbal lynx]

It's the point of a game to be fun and not to be a 24/7 job?

Me personally I am not committed to a game enough to have 10k rolls for one single secret tower.

The only reason I seek one is to finally be able to use #🫂│looking-for-players because they all apparently require secret towers.

[zenith knot]

It's not too much if you really think about it

Secrets are the best if not some of the best towers in the game

Plus luck potions exist

And you can easily grind

I've been doing fine with grinding

Idk abt you tho

[flat moss]

bruh you dont need secret to grind extreme just find duo and you're good

[verbal lynx]

Ask the people in #🫂│looking-for-players they seem pretty determined you need secret towers.

Btw they keep hosting them with almost all mods

[verbal lynx]

But to what extent and amount of luck potions would that be.

For you to be so confident in obtaining it like it's candy

[flat moss]

it cant be help, you need to look for someone willing to grind wit u

[zenith knot]

Idk I might just be lucky because I get t5 luck potions like candy

[verbal lynx]

🧐

[flat moss]

I found a lot of people in ntd but not in dc

[verbal lynx]

🧢

[flat moss]

if you use t5 luck its 1 in 2.5k chance

you dont even grind do ya

[verbal lynx]

Ah but does it stack to improve odds?

[zenith knot]

Quick question

[flat moss]

we can try

[zenith knot]

When did you start?

[flat moss]

I'll play with you with mythics only

[verbal lynx]

A few days ago. Why do you think I ask these questions?

[flat moss]

ohh thats y

[zenith knot]

That actually makes sense now

[flat moss]

wanna hit a try?

[verbal lynx]

Sure we can game

[flat moss]

3c_run

[verbal lynx]

Sent

[zenith knot]

Good luck to yall

[verbal lynx]

@flat moss no I did not send information to roblox to have permission to chat in game

[flat moss]

u dont seem to see my chat

[verbal lynx]

Yea i didn't send my ID to roblox

[blazing pewter]

u can easily grind with that loadout brah

[flat moss]

we lack support unit

[verbal lynx]

True

[flat moss]

I cant handle with only 2 support on mine

I was telling you to use vet

[verbal lynx]

Ah

[flat moss]

so 3 modifier is playable with no lose

[verbal lynx]

That's what im saying but the people in #🫂│looking-for-players only accept those with secret towers. That was the whole point

[blazing pewter]

ur js unlucky

[flat moss]

you dont need those, just play with stranger in ntd not here

[verbal lynx]

🧢

[blazing pewter]

fr

[verbal lynx]

But im unable to communicate in there

[flat moss]

I even manage to win with 4 modif with a friend of mine, no secrets

bruh, thats gonna be so hard for you to grind

[verbal lynx]

Yea i know

And unfortunately I have no friends

[flat moss]

maybe you can play with this dude

[junior bronze]

get rid of pyro and minigunner and switch it with veteran and negotiator

you can now solo extreme

[wispy monolith]

would like the devs to see this honestly

10k is too high

5k would be prolly be okay on standard banners

and just 7500 on limited banners

[amber burrow]

Is it me or is negotiator kinda overrated

[junior bronze]

Nah

Musicians work too but eh you can't afford catalyst expensive upgrades

[amber burrow]

Mini is literally better than catalyst

Just use mini

[junior bronze]

What's the maximum damage of mini?

[amber burrow]

I don't know exactly but I know that is extremely close to a catalyst

And also far more price effective

[junior bronze]

I checked it

It's very far gng

65 for catalyst and 20 for Minigunner

[amber burrow]

Dps or just damage

[junior bronze]

Damage

[amber burrow]

I meant dps

[junior bronze]

Mini deals 600+ damage in a second

And catalyst is 1105

When maxed

[amber burrow]

So yea similar but you need to think of the cost too

[junior bronze]

You can't solo extreme with mini gang ,

[amber burrow]

I have

Not hard

[junior bronze]

For the exchange of damage sure

You can use farms tho

Which makes it easier

[amber burrow]

I'm mainly wondering why ground only towers mater when most deaths are to flying

[junior bronze]

And more range

[amber burrow]

Ngl I'll try negotiator to get more rails because I can almost solo a last life rush extreme and I lose to the hoverboard rush

Also I'm pretty sure mini still might be better because of them being far more cost effect than catalyst
I might be wrong but I know the cost efficiency equation
Total cost/dps

[junior bronze]

If you don't have farm in your Loadout sure go for it

But when it comes to catalysts it's more used in strategies

[amber burrow]

I have a shiny farm

I just can't get the money for that stopping power to deal with all the flying

[junior bronze]

Just spam level 1 railgunner and upgrade them after

[amber burrow]

Ik

It's just the amount of flying is making me need to use both rails and I just can't get all of them down and maxed

[verbal lynx]

Doombringer is unable to handle early waves enough for me to farm for other towers nor to save enough for another tower

[junior bronze]

switch to baseballer

cheap

[verbal lynx]

Baseballer is cheap but unfortunately it doesn't do enough damage for early waves

[junior bronze]

apex probably

with no mods

[blazing pewter]

marks man

[sour bobcat]

lower the Secret pity pls

[verbal lynx]

See this guy read it. The pity does need to be lowered

[amber burrow]

Unemployment vs employment looking messages

I'm just going to wait for the update to grind for a secret as normally endless is a turning point in these games

[random sail]

yall too lazy to actually farm for good units, yall just want it to be like 1k pity then secrets have NO VALUE at all, and the game gets cooked

[broken hedge]

Dude, pity does not need to be lowered 😭 I didn't get my first secret til lvl 90+ using like 700k coins which is already close to pity

You don't need secrets to grind extreme bro

4 mod extreme is already efficient with only mythics

That with a t1 coin potion is like 6-7k (4 people) per win

On rush it would take 10-12 mine and on 3x that's 4 mins max

You get 90k per hour

Yeah 10 hours for pity this way

But making secrets so easy to get by lowering pity is stupid

Having one secret carries your entire game

Sure it's unfair low lvls get secrets but hey I didn't get my first secret til lvl 90+ and I'm not complaining

It was also king which is the worst one.

[verbal lynx]

You admitted the game is only holding up by trades without admitting it

[broken hedge]

Eh that's only because there's not enough content

[verbal lynx]

Look if the game actually has more then yea maybe i wouldn't care so much for the pitty for secret being so high

[broken hedge]

Wouldn't it be the opposite? Higher secret pity means you have more playtime before you finish the game

[verbal lynx]

What i ment was if the game had more to offer for entertainment then I wouldn't be so against the pity being as high as it is.

If the game is fun I would play a lot and earn a lot.

Eventually leading to secret pity tower

That's what I ment

[broken hedge]

Yeah I get your point but the thing is this is only you. Yeah your not having as much fun as you would like while grinding for secrets. But for example me, I was having fun even before I got my first secret. I started to have less fun after my 4th secret.

Now I'm just bored cuz no more content

[verbal lynx]

No other people also want the pitty lowered its not just me :/

[broken hedge]

Yeah but more people are fine with it

[verbal lynx]

Because to protect the value for profits

That's it

[broken hedge]

Which is a valid reason?

You can't blame them

[verbal lynx]

I can only blame them for treating this like a 24/7 job instead of a game man its what I just see it as

[broken hedge]

If your complaining about secret pity being too high, then how long did they grind for all their secrets? Ofc they wouldn't want their secret values to lower

[broken hedge]

That's a valid point but that's just every game with the tr a d d d I n g g system is being treated

[inner sentinel]

I mean 900k coins and you could get a retro zenith

[broken hedge]

Yeah cux they abuse the pity transfer lol

[inner sentinel]

If they make secret pity to low then the economy of them will legit crash

[verbal lynx]

Without this the game would be dead and that's very unfortunate because the value or market for this is already ruined if you see it in #🔄│trading

[broken hedge]

Easy fix, just make it so that pity doesn't transfer

[inner sentinel]

Ajnd secrets are supposed to be the hardest thing obtainable

[inner sentinel]

It won’t matter cuz retros are getting removed soon anyways

[verbal lynx]

The economy is already done for this game. Lmao

[broken hedge]

Isn't it the same for csgo? The only reason that game is still alive is because of skins. Without skins, it would just be another fps game. Yeah you can say the majors and whatnot, but who sponsored them? I know valve barely sponsors these tournaments.

[verbal lynx]

Isn't this supposed to be a roblox game just like everything else? When did this start to change?

[broken hedge]

No I'm trying to tell you that you targetting the fact that this game is only alive because of tr aa a aadi Ing is a useless argument because it applies to every game with the same system

[inner sentinel]

If we do the math a gp is worth like 15k gems then let’s say king is worth 100kgems and because vip cost 399 then king is worth approximately 2.6k robux

if secrets are easier to get

[verbal lynx]

But in this case it's true due to a lack of real content

[inner sentinel]

Then the value will drop because more people have them

[broken hedge]

Exactly, so ask for more content not a secret pity decrease

Get the point?

We are already dissapointed by the retro update

[inner sentinel]

You could just make extreme make more money

[broken hedge]

We did backlash

Now the tryna make more content for the next update

[inner sentinel]

But don’t get rid of the pity

[broken hedge]

If it's still lacking in content

It's the devs fault

[verbal lynx]

And as I stated earlier if there was more content then I wouldn't be complaining about 10k spins for secret towers.

[inner sentinel]

Honestly I’m glad this game is very basic

at least it’s not an overload of gui

[broken hedge]

Yeah but they are already working on adding more content. They said they learned their lesson from the retro update and delayed the endless update so they can add more content for us to enjoy

So I'd argue is to wait and see if this next update is good or not

They promised a lot of content

Don't take my word take theirs

[verbal lynx]

From the looks of it, they didn't learn at all. They are just adding more towers into the market as far as I can tell unless im wrong and it's a new game mode.

[broken hedge]

Oh btw they did polls I'm glad future event banners will take a different currency

[broken hedge]

From the leaks? They said from now on they will try to make unique towers instead of reskins. Like the alien in leaks they said it's gonna have a gimmick. Which means it's probably an entirely new unit

[verbal lynx]

So no actually new content just more to add to a dumpster fire of a economy

Fantastic

👏

[broken hedge]

Nah ofc they adding new gamemodes like endless

And tbf man

[inner sentinel]

Ofc they gotta add new game modes

[broken hedge]

They are a small team

[inner sentinel]

there’s 4 gamemodes

and no one plays medium and hard

[verbal lynx]

Endless is actually something I look forward to because of the gems. But I wish there was more than that

[broken hedge]

Only time will tell man

We don't know much

That's why I'm saying is wait for it

Then we see if it's good or not

I'm probably leaving if I dislike this next update

[inner sentinel]

oooooo you know what they should do whoever gets the top 100 highest levels get a coooool unittt

Like that alien

[verbal lynx]

If it's not then my point has been proven once again but if im wrong then you made your point. Will settle with that lmao

[broken hedge]

Nah they said lb will not give rewards cuz of alt macro issue

[inner sentinel]

Oh :c

[broken hedge]

I mean yeah that's true but do you really think lowering secret pity is a good update?

[inner sentinel]

Just make extreme give more money

[verbal lynx]

For people that don't treat games like a job then yes. For the market itself no. Im actually hoping it will crash

[broken hedge]

But that's most players, no?

[inner sentinel]

If the market crashes no one willl play

Because there’s nothing to aim for

[verbal lynx]

Unless the devs add content

[inner sentinel]

Secrets are secret for a reason

[verbal lynx]

This argument is just going in circles lmao

[inner sentinel]

I’ve just started talking

[broken hedge]

Man this is not leading anywhere

[inner sentinel]

if we say the devs add to much stuff then the game will die

If the devs add nothing the game will die

they gotta make it perfect

Cuz it’s already dying

Like a week ago it had 10k players

[verbal lynx]

It's just circles at this point.

Legit if devs add more content then I won't complain as much for the pity

If it's just more stuff to add to a dumpster fire then oh well

[inner sentinel]

Now it has like half

[broken hedge]

Yknow what I want?

A tower defense game like prime tds

Because their units are actually good

[verbal lynx]

Back when the golden mode was there it was peak.

[broken hedge]

Especially when it made you strategize to beat stuff

[verbal lynx]

Ever since they removed it it went downhill with tds

[broken hedge]

Now tds sucks

Too easy aswell

But that's what I want

Balanced towers

Not just add more op towers every update

[inner sentinel]

just make a game called like Roblox td or smth

[broken hedge]

Make the old towers relevant

Keep it a small selection

[inner sentinel]

add every single Roblox character

and kaboom

Best game ever

[broken hedge]

Make it balanced so that events seem really and are hard

Now almost every tower defense game is get best unit and win

[verbal lynx]

Fellas if we were rich we could pay devs to make a perfect tower defense game

But until then we are poor

[broken hedge]

Yes

We are poor

[inner sentinel]

we can be poor

btu if we desice the time is right

instead of paying devs

to make the game

We learn how to be the devs

[verbal lynx]

Unless you rage from how to build a game

Look i attempted it once

[inner sentinel]

well Roblox games make like millions of robux

[verbal lynx]

On the most garbage labtop

[inner sentinel]

that’s gonna be my inspo

[verbal lynx]

All I was able to do was get enemies to move on a path

[inner sentinel]

Just ask chat gpt

for the scripting

Then make the map yourself

[verbal lynx]

🧐

[inner sentinel]

Cuz chat gpt is not creative

[verbal lynx]

Ai is not right all the time tho

[inner sentinel]

well it’s mostly right and smarter than you in probably every way

[verbal lynx]

[inner sentinel]

We off topic imma go cya

[knotty vault]

Just get 1m coins twin

[verbal lynx]

#1506965976527409213

[wary hornet]

They really need to lower the pity

[naive yew]

What if someone doesnt grind the game all day

[knotty vault]

Do it on and off

[naive yew]

On and off light switch?

I did that today

[cursive quiver]

i dont realy have problen it it

-jugg

[knotty vault]

🐴

[naive yew]

We are humans not horses

[knotty vault]

🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴

[zenith knot]

We're the umamusume!

[naive yew]

Whos 'we're'

[zenith knot]

WE gang

You're NOT an exception

[violet wadi]

whoever made this post is lowk kinda dumb because the pities match up with the percentages

2x50 is 100 for legend. 0.25 x 400 is 100 for myth. 0.01 x 10000 is 100 for secret. basic math.

[broken hedge]

Ong

[analog apex]

Don't say the D word.

[mild lily]

Translated „ don’t say the Truth“

[slate shadow]

Legendary pity is 50

[amber burrow]

Ngl I'm abt to just wait till endless to start saying if it is or isn't fair because instead old game endless was what made the grind a not hell to do

As of now I am just playing the second goat td game FNTd2

[limber spire]

Lowk people are agreeing with this suggestion just because they are lazy to grind a lot and js want to get a high value tower

But its pointless

If they nerfed the pity it would ruin the value

And secrets will become more common as time goes by

[night tree]

game is supposed to be grindy

[glacial needle]

make a feture to upgrade my units that would cost coins and will boost its power temporarly for an hour . boost will be like +5% more damage +10% attack speed but units will cost a lil more to place down

[young mesa]

Bro make a suggestion for that

[glacial needle]

ok

[glacial needle]

lwk u do it

[young mesa]

Cant

[glacial needle]

how do i post a suggestion

[young mesa]

Get a high lvl role

[glacial needle]

oh

ill post it when i higher lvl

[proper geyser]

make it 5k rolls seems to easy otherwise

[blazing pewter]

i hit 1m twice today js grind

[proper geyser]

i hit 1m like 3 times a day at most but too long of a grind for atleast 1 gauranteed secret\

[amber burrow]

Endless tomorrow

[quasi pine]

How high of a lvl

[amber burrow]

Idk I have seen a recon be able to and I only am now that i have marksman

[quasi pine]

Also this is just a bad suggestion

[young mesa]

Get out

[uncut sage]

i agree since secret cost gonna go boom if pity is decreased and it litteraly makes all secrets gotten before the pity litteraly useless since average secret gon cost like 50k

[uncut sage]

the 900k coins being pity is litteraly perfect because its supposted to be rare and not easy to get

[young mesa]

Your stupid

[uncut sage]

[young mesa]

[young mesa]

Bro only disagrees with this cuz he a secret within the first 1000 summons

[uncut sage]

yeah bro i got secret only from the pity

[young mesa]

Sure

[young mesa]

It's sarcasm idiot

[uncut sage]

'sure' how im supposted to know

[young mesa]

With skill

[young mesa]

Everyone can tell when people are sarcastic or not

[uncut sage]

ok

[dense prawn]

[violet wadi]

thats what i said

[quiet saffron]

It's really sad seeing people trying to ruin the game.

the point of a secret is to be secret/really rare, it's in the name 😭

[naive yew]

How is it sad?

[naive yew]

Secret means hard to find, undercover not extremely rare

[gritty lake]

secret is a 1 in 10k chance and the pity is on 10k how is the pity too high they literally guarantee u one for the odds that it is, if anything the pity is too low

[quiet saffron]

ikr.

[quiet saffron]

well, if secrets are going to be easier to obtain, then the value is going to crash, it wont feel rewarding/exciting to get a secret anymore, and people will just hate this decision :D

[naive yew]

Pity is too high, also if value crashes then it crashes

[gritty lake]

this

[quiet saffron]

then it ruins the game 😭

[gritty lake]

the pity is the exacty same as the odds how can u say its too high, u want to be guaranteed a secret before even hitting the odds? listen to what ur saying it doesnt make any sense at all

[naive yew]

Perm shop would also give dopamine

[gritty lake]

if the pity was at 5000 then the odds of the secrets being 1 in 10k is pointless

[naive yew]

= bazzalright

[gritty lake]

ur npt jynxzi brother

[naive yew]

Then should be exchange for secrets like 3 juggers exchanged for a zenith

[naive yew]

Balalaright

[naive yew]

When did i say that

[naive yew]

It does make sense

[naive yew]

Lower pity and secret chance

[gritty lake]

bro its not hard to get 900k coins ur juist lazy and bad

[naive yew]

Im not a no life rod

[gritty lake]

if it was lower it would ruin anything

[gritty lake]

macros exist

i barely even touch this game

[naive yew]

Bannable pretty sure

[naive yew]

Lazy for not playing a game and sitting down?

[gritty lake]

no considering most people do it

[gritty lake]

lazy for wanting it to be easier and take less time

[naive yew]

Also considering Jynzxis eyebrows

[quiet saffron]

you can use the button to exchange units (i cant say the word)

[naive yew]

Lazy for saying its lazy?

[gritty lake]

its truth

rade with a T

[naive yew]

Take long for mobile to make macro and prob not a lot of tutorials

[gritty lake]

well unlucky then

find another game to play

[naive yew]

What is unlucky

[naive yew]

What game

[quiet saffron]

idk why that word is banned T-T

[gritty lake]

neither but its whatever

this guy is just stupid

the developers are extremely generous making a pity in the first place

and people still be comaplaining

[naive yew]

Cause they know

[naive yew]

How

[quiet saffron]

honestly

people just complain, because they don't have a secret.

and they cant join any party, because you need a secret

[naive yew]

I did get it from pity from playing the game a few hrs a day

After weeks

It was Shiny Retro Zenith

#24

[gritty lake]

pretty much

[gritty lake]

u got a shiny retro zenith and ur still coplainin?

the greed omds

[quiet saffron]

then why are you complaining 😭

[naive yew]

It took long very long weeks

[gritty lake]

bros complaining about getting a shiny retro zen no way is this guy real

[quiet saffron]

i swear to god, people like you dont deserve anything.

[naive yew]

The 'complaining' wasnt there

[naive yew]

How

[gritty lake]

i think anyone would rather get to pity and get a shiny retro zen than get 20 random secrets

[gritty lake]

becuase ur complaining about a pity when u got the best secret in the game SHINY bare in mind

[quiet saffron]

because you're an ungrateful idiot.

[naive yew]

Took many hours, Blood, Sweat and Tears to get it

[naive yew]

No

[naive yew]

Until next update prob

[gritty lake]

brother if its limited its gonna just keep going up in value

moron

[naive yew]

Im not a moon ron

[gritty lake]

can tell ur a jynxzi fan by ur terrible jokes

[naive yew]

Why cant devs just make secret chance 50% and pity 10

[naive yew]

When did i say it was a joke?

[naive yew]

You have beef with jynzxi?

[gritty lake]

no i like him but his fans are just 13 year old idiots

[naive yew]

ben no

[gritty lake]

https://tenor.com/view/ts-tuff-huh-in-case-i-can't-find-it-gif-17489812066906410155

[naive yew]

I think there needs to be a perm shop or secret exchange to make it just a little bit easier for people who dont play noob td a lot

[naive yew]

Corn ball with butter or pepper?

Am prob gonna stop messaging on this to stop wasting time BUT jynzxi fans arent 13 year olds so if u like Jynzxi u calling urself a 13 year old?

[tranquil shadow]

Well

there is a low chance of getting a secret in the merchant

[zenith knot]

https://tenor.com/view/doombringer-1x1x1x1-doom-1x-roblox-gif-7981919449464308493

[junior bronze]

value gonna crash anyways due to alts and macros so idrk

[cursive quiver]

they have add more secret so it didnt crash (i mean type)

[junior bronze]

won't that powercreep those new secrets?

[cursive quiver]

that problem

[junior bronze]

and would make it more repetitive

[cursive quiver]

that the other problem

add in more myth and secrets will help it just not now thing

[junior bronze]

and plus those new towers those alts and macro would easily be able to get it

[cursive quiver]

add them went very very very slowly

[junior bronze]

and would crash the old secret value even more

[junior bronze]

eh still die due to alts and macros

[cursive quiver]

if their more secrets that one odds is the thing so do it smart timing the it could help with that

[cursive quiver]

and made switch one out for some time could help too

[junior bronze]

or maybe they need great coding to prevent macros and for alts they need more requirements when you join the game

cause last time duping happened and rn it's the macros

[junior bronze]

the alts and macros get richer when that happens btw

the economy will die either way and so does the game

[cedar sable]

How about we decrease it to 100k

[cursive quiver]

i was think that have some other secrets and myth down line will not hurt so long as they balance them in but keep them not repetitive

[cedar sable]

100k spins

[junior bronze]

you mean increase? cause the pity is 10k

[spark garnet]

10k spins for 10k spins, very unfair

[violet wadi]

whoever made this gotta take it down lol

[slate shadow]

its kinda old

[mild lily]

Who upvoting this Js ropemax or sum idk xd

[cursive quiver]

1no that super secret pity

[true fulcrum]

this could be kept but just like even if u get a secret non pity the pity doesnt go away

because really only ppl who macro r filling out that pity

[cursive quiver]

that good point

no truth

[sacred tide]

i think this is fair enough but tbh having a secret pity at less than 750k summons will ruin the economy and have loads of very low level players have secrets. good idea, but secrets should still be very hard to get bc of skill gap

[cursive quiver]

750k is that inpossble

[sacred tide]

?

[cursive quiver]

750k roll is ver much impossble

[sacred tide]

500k is too little

ive reached 500k coins worth of pity in abt 8 hours of grinding

u need a pity which isnt too little but still reachable

[restive epoch]

yeah dude... go into the looking for players tab. spend an hour trying to get accepted into a good group when you have no secrets. It simply doesnt happen. You have to get lucky and summon a secret or complete the pass for deathbringer in order to play with good players to beat extreme

[north spruce]

Keep gems and buy x3 speed.Its give you decent chance to be accepted without secrets

Also if ur team have with mythic units like you, already a possible beat Expert with 2+ mods and without revives...It's enough for begins

[hearty lance]

i think maybe in like a month or two when secrets lose value, then it'l be more fair to lower the secret pity so people who already have secrets don't lose much and people without secrets have an easier time

[sacred tide]

When the retro secrets leave and say secrets are starting to become five digit in existence Thats a good time to switch it to something lower tbh

[sacred tide]

As well as that - realistically if the pity goes lower, then the chance to get has to become greater, bc it wouldn’t make sense if there’s a pity of 7.5k when the chance is 1/10k. Really what they should do is leave pity, but make the chance to get, slightly higher

[naive iris]

Or just make endless give more then 100-200 coins

Or make a win bonus like with crystals for coins so u at least get 10k

[sacred tide]

For every 5 waves your looking at a guarantee of 1k and endless match

That’s probably already good enough

[naive iris]

So I'll get a secret in about 500 more weeks

Sounds like a plan

[sacred tide]

Yep 👍🏼

To be fair, it’s been abt months and there are 5k kings so it’s actually not as bad as it sounds

[restive epoch]

fair point

[winged pagoda]

Dont forget abt console players

[naive yew]

Yes

[next sedge]

I have been playing for around 2 weeks and have gotten 2 secrets through pity alr lol, js try to find people wo also don't have secrets to grind extreme with 3-4mod

[supple furnace]

if you think about it

it takes a few hours to get the coin cap

if u get a squad (4 ppl) and do a bunch of mods, around 3-4 hours to get to max coin cap

so if your really motivated

you can get 2-3 secrets a day

if ur nolife

[gilded oracle]

fym they too high?!? we are already suffering from overpopulation of secrets soon its value gonna drop to the negatives

[junior bronze]

just so yk this suggestion was posted during when secrets weren't 4k exist yet

so yeah

[slate shadow]

it was ez to get secrets before and now

[tulip sorrel]

Pls devs remove retro summon asap

[next stag]

1644 messages. Holy moly

[prisma olive]

Add this and I'll probably play the game again

[slender plinth]

yes

it too hard

low chances

[young mesa]

yes

[slender plinth]

yes

[young mesa]

yes yes ofc

i have 40+ hours on this game

and yet no secret

😭

[mortal egret]

10k pity is actually not that good and not that bad

[young mesa]

40 hours on the game and 3.5k pity

and if you check #🫂│looking-for-players

[mortal egret]

farm with 4 players?

12.5k for 3 minutes

[young mesa]

everyone wants people with secrets

[mortal egret]

ye but.

[young mesa]

no secret = no entry

[mortal egret]

you can do it by yourself to farm

[young mesa]

dude i been searching and found nothing

absolutely nothing

[young mesa]

i dont have x3

i waste time

• im not motivated without a team

[mortal egret]

1x1x1x1, catalyst, railgunner, musician, veteran, shiny farm

[mortal egret]

that's all

[mortal egret]

idk then

[young mesa]

also do you know how to macro

[mortal egret]

try with your friend

[young mesa]

i have no life

[mortal egret]

only on pc

[young mesa]

i dont have friends

i dont shower

/jk

[mortal egret]

i don't drink water💀

[young mesa]

how dont u drink water

u should be dead by now

[mortal egret]

nvm

[young mesa]

nvm what

🙏

[mortal egret]

i want to eat rn, i doesen't had a dinner

[mortal egret]

its almost 6pm

and i only was eating around 6 hours ago

[young mesa]

6 hours ago

[mortal egret]

and i need to farm some coins

[young mesa]

my friends would eat everything in their sight

🙏

if u have a burger

[mortal egret]

bottle?

[young mesa]

the next second

snathed

[mortal egret]

he eats you

[young mesa]

taken away

[young mesa]

they go full 4 leg mode

and sprint like they havent eaten in decades

towards my food

and ask for a little

and if u let them take a little

[mortal egret]

don't spam

[young mesa]

they take 70% of ur food

[mortal egret]

and talk about this suggestion

[young mesa]

mb

do u have any secrets

[mortal egret]

the bad btw

[mortal egret]

ye

[mortal egret]

that uh

they removed the bug

with coin pot

boi i here

[tame flame]

This is not ntd

[mortal egret]

sorr

[silent fossil]

ntd players when they have to play the GAME

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[tranquil shadow]

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[silent fossil]

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[mild lily]

Ok u doing too much

Like

Actually

Stop

Doing

This

Anyone

Think this suggestion

Is good?

Tbf

Its not making sense

Bc

The pity is 10k

Which is perfect

Since many TD games

Have the same pity

[young mesa]

@tranquil shadow check this flood out

[slender plinth]

yes

/i thought

very much

[strange yoke]

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[slender plinth]

with 20 x

[strange yoke]

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[slender plinth]

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[strange yoke]

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[slender plinth]

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[strange yoke]

what

im trying to get 100 messages

lol

[onyx pelican]

@strange yoke @slender plinth Spamming in suggestions will land you a warn and a mute.

[brisk wolf]

Honestly u got a point I like this suggestion

[quartz berry]

.

[spark garnet]

Delete this

Genuinely

[junior bronze]

You guys stop talking here dude