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oblique temple Sep 30, 2023, 5:42 PM

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Bitwig doesn't clip automatically at 0 dB, that's basically a warning that the output may get clipped by your interface.

oblique temple Sep 30, 2023, 6:02 PM

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Maybe the mastering is a bit too hot?

oblique temple Sep 30, 2023, 6:35 PM

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I just looked at an official FLAC from Beyoncé's Renaissance - "Thique", to find some nice mastering. If I set the track level to 0dB, the playback is also +0.6 dB over. That's a bug, I guess.

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Do you get the same issue with the default track level of -10dB?

reef temple Sep 30, 2023, 6:36 PM

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ist with all files like .mp3 .wav etc.

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happens since I started with Bitwig 3

oblique temple Sep 30, 2023, 6:38 PM

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I am using the default track level of -10dB, no problem with that

reef temple Sep 30, 2023, 6:38 PM

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Sometimes even when you bounce files limited at 0 it will be clipping right after that.

I imported many mastered Dance Tracks and they all clip over 0db.

I have no idea why.

oblique temple Sep 30, 2023, 6:38 PM

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using the default track level, Beyonce comes to -9.4, which is pretty safe

reef temple Sep 30, 2023, 6:39 PM

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it shouldn`t clip at 0

fathom igloo Sep 30, 2023, 11:14 PM

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seems like a bug to me. 0db should be 0db

sage sedge Sep 30, 2023, 11:27 PM

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Is the audio event in raw mode? Any of the stretch modes could be changing the peak

reef temple Oct 1, 2023, 8:11 AM

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Can you make a ticket?

fathom igloo Oct 1, 2023, 9:11 AM

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Now that i focused on the topic of Bitwigs peak levels:

you cant see the peak levels in the normal mixer. So when mixing an arrangement with one monitor, you are forced to switch the whole view to the MIX view with big meters in order to see an overview of the peak hold values.
the colorization in general is unconventional/misleading, or am i wrong? I mean i don’t know many other editors, where the VU meter gets deep red where there’s still so much headspace

reef temple Oct 2, 2023, 7:31 AM

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I just wrote the support on the homepage a mail.

reef temple Oct 5, 2023, 11:44 AM

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they are investigating. I send them several videos about the problem.
funfact: a bounce/render of the mastered track is even more clipping on import.

rough pewter Oct 9, 2023, 10:33 AM

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What version? I don't have this issue at all

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I'm on 5.0.9

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Correction, appears with an MP3 but the flac file I tested was fine

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Definitely odd, they aren't displaying true peak because a TP +.7 flac file shows under 0 dBFS but an mp3 that's definitely PCM limited to 0 shows +.7 (which is roughly the TP level, but then why did the FLAC file meter under 0?)

reef temple Oct 9, 2023, 6:15 PM

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every version. I tested mp3 and wav

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project/soundcard at 48.000 samplerate.

rough pewter Oct 12, 2023, 5:23 PM

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reef temple project/soundcard at 48.000 samplerate.

Does this still happen if the track being loaded is also 48khz or only when 44.1?

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I have a feeling this is SRC related, I'm going to run a test later

reef temple Oct 12, 2023, 5:54 PM

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happens on 48khz.

rough pewter Oct 12, 2023, 6:03 PM

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Weird. Wav over here is 0 if the wav is 0

reef temple Oct 12, 2023, 9:26 PM

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rough pewter Weird. Wav over here is 0 if the wav is 0

with 48khz?

rough pewter Oct 13, 2023, 2:33 PM

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reef temple with 48khz?

Yeah, running at 48khz project sample rate and importing a wav at 48

reef temple Oct 13, 2023, 3:44 PM

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please import a wav. at 44.1khz

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and mp3

reef temple Oct 13, 2023, 6:01 PM

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ok, the problem is that bitwig doesnt convert 44.1khz files to your system samplerate (in my case 48khz).

reef temple Oct 16, 2023, 8:49 AM

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Just got a mail about it. "Just use 44.1 khz".. this is so unacceptable! I will stay away from Bitwig for now. Sad

livid plover Oct 18, 2023, 1:42 PM

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reef temple Just got a mail about it. "Just use 44.1 khz".. this is so unacceptable! I will ...

If this is due to sample rate conversion then this is definitely also related to inter-sample peaks - songs mastered to 0db sometimes have inter-sample peaks up to nearly 1db. Meaning this issue 1) affects probably any daw, and 2) your speakers are being pushed past 0db anyway even without the SRC.

reef temple Oct 18, 2023, 3:06 PM

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But the Sample are not clipping in other DAWs. And in Bitwig its not only up to one db difference its up to 4db sometimes.

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I think its not inter-sample peaks related.

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If I convert the file in Cubase and load it into Bitwig its not clipping anymore.

rough pewter Oct 18, 2023, 11:48 PM

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Bitwig uses different SRC than Cubase

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It's a shorter filter

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Converting in RX will also avoid this issue

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but I agree I think it would be awesome if Bitwig could add some SRC options

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Ableton used to have terrible SRC that has cleared up in the past few versions

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