#What Linux distro is better than Ubuntu studio I hate it

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spare cipher
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the linux distribution you're using should not affect whether or not your USB ports work - that's not something that's really distro dependent.

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if your USB ports are flaky, they'll be flaky on every distro

violet sequoia
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If really nothing works, then maybe also consider Windows? Or buy a Mac if you have the budget?

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Linux music production still isn't quite there yet for the generic public 🙂

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(saying this as someone who's made some very popular audio production tools for Linux)

spare cipher
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I concur, as a consumer of at least one of these tools mentioned lol

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Arch definitely has a learning curve, even for installation, but Ubuntu Studio should "just work" out of the box, if your hardware is up to the task.

silk frigate
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I will never use windows ever they are evil

spare cipher
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there is no ethical consumption under capitalism amirite? but still - if you're dealing with USB ports that don't work it won't matter what OS you're using

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even Ubuntu Studio should offer some logs to tell you what's going on with your USB devices - is it timeouts? what devices are plugged in? that sort of thing

silk frigate
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My dell all in one good had a it person look at it he says Ubuntu sucks and has heard many problems with it its not my computer I am good in that dept

spare cipher
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I'm gonna exit at this point but I wish you the best 👋

silk frigate
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It works fine for a bit then Ubuntu studio just stops working with my usb ports so I can’t do a thing

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In this I am asking what other distros are worth it

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I am tired of distro hopping

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It’s always Ubuntu studio that I have this issue with makes no sense its not my usb ports at all that’s a fact

clear marten
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If you have a hard time with Ubuntu Studio chances are you won't like any other linux better. Mac and Windows are much friendlier for non-Linux-devotees.

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If you have decided that you won't use Windows and that Linux is too hard, you have what you call, a catch-22.

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Note that usb ports stop working for me on some of my windows pcs. It's more likely an issue with your usb ports or cables or your PC than a ubuntu issue that you have.

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  1. the root ports on the motherboard on some dell laptops can have a chipset bug, thanks to Intel being bad at life.
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  1. usb ports can destabilize a connection, leading to loss of connectivity (devices drop off)
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  1. bad usb cables can cause loss of connection.
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My general advice is to try a different usb cable first, get rid of any usb hubs.

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On windows you can often see USB low level errors in the event viewer (eventvwr.msc) and on most Linux distros you can watch low level hardware errors via dmesg.

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Distro Hopping is hell, and for many people, Linux is hell.

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For others, Linux is awesome.

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I really doubt Ubuntu STudio has a general USB issue.

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If it does then it's possible that there's a bug in that specific Ubuntu linux kernel variant.

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If you just want to try a few more, and you haven't tried PopOS try that.

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And if you want to try a really different thing, try Manjaro.

clear marten
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If you had a desktop PC with PCIe slots you could always add another USB PCIe adaptor card to it, and that would take away any chance that the problem is your Ubuntu kernel doesn't like the weirdo USB chipset/mainboard stuff in your Dell Allinone.

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I am very happily bitwiggin on a 2022 mac studio. USB and Midi just work far far better on Macs than on any PC.

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Part of the problem with Windows and PCs is that Microsoft creates the OS and it lets Intel write the drivers. This leads to a certain class of bug where "the person writing the device drivers has no idea how windows works" and the windows kernel devs have no idea what the device driver implementers will do.

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On Linux, the whole thing is cleaner as the same people write the drivers as work on the kernel, but these people do not have the internal access to the hardware teams, often, and have inadequate hardware documentation, and sometimes even have to reverse engineer or assume things.

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The only operating system on earth that I would trust to run a professional music studio or a live music rig is Mac OS.

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If you try Manjaro and it works for you solidly, great. But if you eventually have glitches on it, perhaps different ones, then it will be the typical experience. Things on Linux are a bit less stable and "productive" than Windows or Macs.

magic rampart
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try ubuntu again. not LTS. 23.04 or 23.10. It comes with pipewire out of the box. Delete snaps first (5 minutes. https://www.debugpoint.com/remove-snap-ubuntu/). Then install ubuntu studio installer and apply only studio tweaks to system (5 minutes more, https://ubuntustudio.org/ubuntu-studio-installer/ ) see screenshot in next message. there you go. clear deb based system with pipewire and so on....

Complete guide on how to remove snap from Ubuntu Linux and re-install Software, Firefox as deb version.

spare cipher
dense estuary
# violet sequoia Linux music production still isn't quite there yet for the generic public 🙂

hello, i'm reading this older thread, and saw your comment about linux not being there yet for the generic public for music production -> i would be really interested in if you see any chance , that it gets better in the next years? because to me, it still seems like really really hard for people like me who don't even know how to put up Wine for Vst emulation and all that fiddling

spare cipher
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some time after linux as a desktop is ready for the general public? it might be ready?

dense estuary
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hmm - is this something which is probable or utopy?

spare cipher
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probable, no

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imho

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linux is still for linux geeks, (again, imho)

dense estuary
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ok that's not so good! i really hope it will be ready for "generic people" like me some day

spare cipher
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I think "generic people" can learn to become a linux geek, sometimes?

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but it's a matter of choice, time, discretion, etc

dense estuary
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100% ! it highly depends on my motivation. Whether i want to leave microsoft for good. But for now, when it comes to "just wanting to make music" , windows works far too smoothly.

spare cipher
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same but I use a mac

spiral lodge
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i used POPos

regal ridge
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I can say that I never managed to get things working in Ubuntu Studio. Now, I use Arch (well Endeavour Os), and EVERYTHING is absolutely great and works smoothly.

dense orbit
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MacOs 🤣

wary quail
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I use Fedora (xfce version, cause it's more minimal) with bitwig and it works well, installing the bitwig flatpak

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MacOS and Windows don't support my old edirol UA-25 interface anymore - that's a major upside with linux. Driver support is rarely removed for old devices.

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Would be nice if more VSTs worked in linux. I've noticed many industry standard stuff i'd like to use like Serum and Fabfilter tools don't support linux. I'll just work around that with alternatives I suppose.

regal ridge