Rift Scaling

[topaz lily]

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[lilac narwhal]

Bring back rift multiplayer. Everyone goes solo it's ass

[loud heron]

If players want to do rifts on their own that’s fine, if they want to make the rifts harder and bring back multiplier I think they would have to actually buff the rift units first because shanks is the only one that’s worth it

So the current difficulty of obtainment to unit strength makes sense

[lilac narwhal]

Rifts cannot be unit focused. You keep coming back on it because of it's resources.

[loud heron]

Yeah but they still have a unit in them adding new units to rifts then it doesn’t really make sense

[lilac narwhal]

I'm all for mvp competition

[loud heron]

What does mvp comp have to do with anything im saying 😭

[lilac narwhal]

Winner gets twice the resources. Also shanks is easier to get with how overpowered the units can be able to afford by new people. It's not terrible to increase old rifts enemy scaling to match shanks rift.

[loud heron]

Why do that when I can just grind it solo like sure I can get more resources but like it’s hard to find teammates half the time, so forcing players to find teammates just to get resources doesn’t make sense

Why do you need to make the rifts harder just to pander to stronger players

That’s unfair to people who could maybe do the fate rift but not the shanks one because then they can’t get the resources

When those who can already solo the shanks rift just get more resources basically for free

MVP rewards those who do the most damage or carry weaker players

Rifts get more difficult as updates go on

[lilac narwhal]

If you're waiting on a rift you'll find stronger people to play with right?? You only get 4 rifts on a server and they don't even respawn immediately, it's either you have to server jump (which sucks cause they all get used up) or wait for an hour to find one.

[loud heron]

I’m just saying mvp rewards don’t matter that much when u are already getting like 1 per hour

Sure u get more resources but it only takes like 1 day to get all the rerolls from the shop running solo

It doesn’t matter for anything besides vow stone which is for the UNIT and if you are grinding the unit then it also doesn’t make sense to make the rifts more difficult because the units aren’t worth it

Again if they buff the units by giving them memorias or something sure they can make the rifts harder but rn the system is fine

[lilac narwhal]

Rifts used to be hard now it's just easy slop because they forgot to balance the units properly. Also rifts don't have to be unit focused since you can just buy a vowstone. That's why they didn't even add a new rift rn if were on a right schedule.

[loud heron]

Rifts are hard because they are new, shanks rifts was hard when the update came out, it’s been like 3 update so ofc it’s easier now

When the next rift comes out it will be scaled for multiplayer

Because units get stronger, you will get more mvp on the next rift

Like is the astolfo rift going to give the same rewards but have 1000x the health multiplier when they add the next rift???

That doesn’t even make sense

The old rifts are easier because they are older, should we also scale the planet Namek story mode to the new Naruto story mode so we can get more exp?

Ur just locking a large group of players from grinding resources to make your own grind slightly faster

[lilac narwhal]

It doesn't even match shanks multiplier what are you talking about. Also namek don't have a shop that have the important stuff plus you're manually doing the grind

[loud heron]

Why if you are manually grinding would you not do the easy stage for the same reward?

[loud heron]

You said you wanted the old rifts to have the shanks stage hp multipliers so same hp

[lilac narwhal]

Atds are popular from getting their games automated since they're a resource game.

[loud heron]

Some people like me don’t afk though and even with what you said, yes they are popular for resource grind, so why would people want the stage to be harder.
I get it changing the hp scaling would make people incentivize mvp more, but it also just makes it way harder for lower level players to play the stage, I know that I really struggled with the shanks stage even with other people when I unlocked rifts so making the old rifts scale to that would just be terrible for weaker players

Not only that but as new rifts get added the other older rifts would get more and more difficult and would eventually lock everyone out of playing rifts if you didn’t have up to date meta units

And with pysephs new balancing that will make it even worse

If weaker players want to grind resources from rifts but can’t do the harder ones then they can either wait for the easier ones or do multiplayer, getting rid of one of those 2 options is generally a bad idea

[lilac narwhal]

Now soon there'll be 5 rifts if they're still weekly rotation you'll have to wait for like 4 weeks for proper competetive play and y'all new people get to enjoy 4 weeks of solo. This game is soon going catering new players and not retaining old players that have been playing this game like for a 1-2 years.

[loud heron]

Retaining old players is not really a problem here, I don’t think the old players really grind rift because if you have a strong team your just doing tower

So making sure newer players have an easier time getting rerolls isn’t a bad thing

Plus there is no difference, I’m going to get the reroll either way so why do I need to do a harder rift. Your just locking out new players so the game can be more fun for you

That’s not fair to anyone

[lilac narwhal]

They do grind rift cause they have to get those rerolls weekly if ur minmaxing.

[loud heron]

Gang it not that hard to get the rerolls mvp is not the make or break

It takes on average 13 rifts for max rerolls

That’s not even that much

I can do that in a day let alone a week

Although not really I’m not playing av 13 hours straight

Like taking weekend into account like it’s not that bad

And again tower is better for rerolls so like why can’t the new players have something

It’s like the one reliable way for them to get rerolls besides the limited events

[lilac narwhal]

Isn't rift also the only another source of stat chips? Now plus 500 shards you get the play 26 manually that's just stealing your time Man.

[loud heron]

Sure but like 500 from one time doing tower vs what like 700 hours of rift

How many chips do you even get? Plus you get other rewards from tower too

In the grand scheme of things rift really isn’t that big of a deal for grinding unless you are no life preparing for an update

[lilac narwhal]

100 in total weekly. You only get chips once per element in tower

[loud heron]

Sure but like updates come out once every three weeks with what 5 units?

It’s not that big of a deal

Plus the stat chips aren’t only once because there are like 20 different towers

[lilac narwhal]

Once per elements

[loud heron]

U get 1k chips for 100 floors +300k gems and a bunch of rerolls

If u lock new players out of rifts what are they actually supposed to grind for reroll

[lilac narwhal]

How much is bunch of rerolls exactly. It only rewards rr per 50 levels

[loud heron]

Uhh no?

[lilac narwhal]

Monarchs are a requirement too

[loud heron]

It’s over 200 per 50 floors bro

And u have all the towers

Like yeah rifts are good for rerolls and chip farming but do you know what else newer players can grind for those materials

NOTHING

Rifts is the best way for newer players to grind resources

Why take that away to pander to vets when the grind isn’t even that bad in the first place

Like what?

Your argument makes like no sense bro 💀

Alr I’m gonna continue this later I got stuff to do

[lilac narwhal]

Your argument only caters new players that can just go and leave the game midgame and not play anymore. The way rift is designed is for long-term you can't be interrupted everytime you're doing something and play the rift. There must be something to shorten that somehow.

You also talk towers as if you don't need multiplayer and better units in order to achieve higher floors.

Bring back harder rifts. This guy just has a taste for easyslop.

[lilac narwhal]

Also you're forgetting boss rush is there too for new players 💀💀.

[loud heron]

That’s the difference towers are endgame content that rewards veterans, rifts are not, it’s should nearly impossible to do tower on your not good at the game that’s why it’s endgame

[loud heron]

Tell me when the last time the boss rush shop reset because it doesn’t reset every week like rift does it’s finite they run out

[loud heron]

And they will bring back harder rifts when a new one comes out I just don’t think the old rifts have to be made harder

Even then you can still do the easy rifts with other people for the mvp

It’s not like people can quick start rifts

Progression for hard content is boss rush until you can do rifts and rifts until you can do towers

[lilac narwhal]

Bro you shouldn't waste your time here. You can't earn exp in suggestions

Come back when you're not orange

[loud heron]

I’m bored

[lilac narwhal]

Either way this suggestion is ruined cause someone don't want potential QOL bye

[loud heron]

Bros pulling rank cuz he lost and argument 😂 aight then I’ll go back to general have fun with ur 4 stars

[lilac narwhal]

No you done this several times i think you're just a serial weirdo

[loud heron]

And if the buff the rift units then your suggestion it’s fine I’m just saying that only doing mvp farming is pretty narrow minded when some people want the units

[loud heron]

Several time what? Literally just providing reasons why it might not be the best idea

Plus I didn’t ruin ur argument

I do agree that there isn’t enough endgame content to resource farm for vets

But that doesn’t mean you should lock players out of a mid difficulty gamemode so you can have more fun farming