Please don’t

[teal juniper]

ur a laughing stock to us ima bfr we aint ever gonna take u srsly ever again

[finite current]

because I care if the people begging for vfs think im a laughing stock you want slop updates and enjoy free buffs to boring characters

[teal juniper]

sure dude whatever floats your boat i guess

[formal stirrup]

😂

nun wrong with smth from 9.5 beating smth from 5.5 sub 1 minute

esp when the gamemode is time based

can’t argue w someone stubborn bro big waste of time

[novel shoal]

I think they need to completely change how they approach designing memorias.

Its impossible to refute people like NagBlox who say theyre cutting out parts of the units passives to put into the memoria.

[full marten]

The global passives on memorias are also very simple,

Its either gain % of a stat or do more dmg under x condition

By this stage i expected something like the unit gains a meter blablabla in one of them.

Hard to balance but its the way to not make them slop

[novel shoal]

I’d be more forgiving of the global passives if they werent misusing the unit exclusive ones.
I dont know how they didnt see these and go “Why not make an alternative version of this unit?”

instead they made it so theyre one dimensional pieces of gear

[scarlet garden]

they are straight up just doing that to make the grind longer each upd

[regal spire]

i mean the game is slop after all

it was high quality slop when it came out sicnne it was the only td game with this quality but we have utd and other games with similar quality now with faster updates

the models and vfx are still better than most games but the game design itself is just the same

[verbal lark]

I wouldn't call utd similar quality 😭

[regal spire]

i would

i dont really knwo what av has above it besides models maps and vfx

which is part of the quality but its not a giant difference

[full marten]

U just mentioned like 75% of what forms quality in a atd

Visual aspect

It is really not that complicated

Dmca has even the odds for other atds not tied to the obligation.

[verbal lark]

"idk what av has other than quality"

[regal spire]

the difference in the map models and vfx isnt high

not like als vs av where one game doesnt even try

[verbal lark]

It's pretty high dude icl 😭

[verbal lark]

I mean als barely had vfx

[regal spire]

clearly not

only big difference in quality is the maps

the vfx and models are essentially the same between utd and av

[verbal lark]

You can't be real

I'll try to find some comparisons in a sec when I get on

utd

yea my recording software keep crashing gimme a sec

yea idk why it wont let me fully record av

ill just show two attacks then

keep in mind av is with lower graphics and ldm on

oh it didnt even get the second attack

and utd is at one second

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1457340205479628872/1492194527317070004/HOYOMAPPAVIDEOWOOOO-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter_3.gif

[scarlet garden]

salters vfx is still like top 1 ing

gogetas is really good too

[verbal lark]

av has great vfx

[scarlet garden]

too bad ur not gonna see it 90% of the timee

[mossy yacht]

Salter in Shibuya station

[novel shoal]

UTD imo feels more amateurly put together, but the devs have a solid vision

Like the devs want to make an actual game somewhat

[signal zealot]

they feel more genuine to me then AV does at the moment if im being honest, i think AV got too comfortable not having any competition personally

[abstract hazel]

Honestly they did

It's good that UTD is doing well, AV needs competition. it's healthy

[humble otter]

without competition there's no innovation

well, sometimes. i dont know what the hell the other TDs are doing, UTD and AV are the only ones locking in lol

[weary depot]

fr they need to improve av

[verbal pasture]

Every time AV stumbles really hard another game always capitalizes. Happened with AA, ALS, and now UTDX. Hopefully AV takes this as another time to lock in

especially since i think the next 2-3 updates will more than likely be the make or break for most ppl

[signal zealot]

if these updates arent good i think AV might be done honestly

[verbal pasture]

IMO tho i may be biased i think compared to other games like ALS AA and AG, even if the next couple updates are bad the game isnt just completely over

[signal zealot]

i just think alot of people arent gonna give it another chance anymore unless its a big anime

[verbal pasture]

The balaning in the game can still be salvaged and unless they completely drop all developemt the skeleton of what makes AV is very very good

[signal zealot]

wouldnt say it would be immediate but

[verbal pasture]

thats fair

[signal zealot]

but just depends if they stop using roguelike logic for a tower defense 💀

[verbal pasture]

It can work they just choose to copy the worst aspects of a rouge like. The gameplay and innovation is good but at its core AV is a gacha game and should be balanced and handled with that in mind players constantly pay either on time or money

Your game has to be worth that price otherwise people won’t be willing to pay that’s one of the 4 P’s of marketing

They need to just straight up copy most of the stuff from HSR

[signal zealot]

i just mean at the moment unless they do this the logic makes no sense pretyt much

but idk i just kinda hope they dont go this direction regardless but considering pysephs response here it doesn't really seem like that will happen 😭😭

[verbal pasture]

I kinda hate that ATD games have to pander to the lowest standard of players since it’s the majority of the roblox ecosystem

Like they got bullied so hard that they kinda just refuse to make hard content anymore

Idk what I said wrong but wtv 😭

[signal zealot]

yea i get what you mean

i mean i think the main reason this update was so hated was just

[verbal pasture]

A power fantasy feels good in a game like warframe because I spent hours working towards that conclusion me using a frame to destroy a planet is because I took the journey

[signal zealot]

the lack of content was apparant, and the units were just (at least in my opinion) super boring

im kind of tired of them making team based units that require you to run them together.

aka

you need several monarchs, which is BORING AS HELL.

[verbal pasture]

The units themselves are fairly interesting I for the most part like ninjutsu but there’s only 4 of them for the main update, the models where fairly bad, the update was super fast to complete, and guilds being most of the update where implemented poorly

[verbal pasture]

I think synergies are good for the game but I see what you mean. They tend to feel nicer when it’s with units you already have

[signal zealot]

synergies are good but its feel like thats all of the new units we are getting nowadays

and it makes it worse when you need to get all of them with monarch even be viable

thats not fun nor is it f2p friendly which is everything that UTDX IS ATM which is why people are playing it

[verbal pasture]

Event banners have destroyed the RR economy so it’s created this crazy divide between the player base for who can auto the new game modes and who can’t

If they don’t make units that need monarch the ppl with rerolls have nothing to roll for and if they do the ppl without fall farther behind

[signal zealot]

plus UTDX has stated that they HATE the trait system and until they get this new system implemented thats why the codes give SO MANY RRS

[verbal pasture]

Yeah I’ve had UTD as a side game since it came out I’m really happy with how passionate and responsive the dev team has been. For the first couple updates it felt a little slow with only getting like 2 QOL an update but they’re on a roll rn I’m proud of them

I’m really hyped for their guild system

[signal zealot]

this is why competition is just a healthy thing

im really hoping the madara update is good cause it really needs to be

[verbal pasture]

They said they’re ahead of schedule so hopefully they can add extra stuff to make it stand out more

Or it’ll be riddled with bugs and I’ll try to capitalize for a pay day

[signal zealot]

☠️

like, i'm complaining/criticizing this update cause it comes from a place of CARE

i WANT this game to succeed and im just disappointed with how this update turned out

[verbal pasture]

Every time I’ve taken the time to spam suggestions with my complaints is because I want the game to be the best it can be

[signal zealot]

thats what a good majority of people want

[verbal pasture]

No one benefits from AV dying

[signal zealot]

you should be terrified if nobody even tries to care enough to even give feedback about the game, thats when your game truly is DEAD

having constant suggestions criticism and feedback is good

[formal stirrup]

problem is they only seem to be reading these when ccu is at an all time low

ykw fair play if they read them when they have the higher ccu, but they seem to mainly interact with when low ccu

[signal zealot]

which is a problem tbh

not even acknowledging the community: the people that make or break your game when you think you are at a high point shouldnt' be a thing

[abstract hazel]

It’s moreso Seilo interacting with suggestions when updates don’t do well and the devs are looking for genuine criticisms instead of people just complaining

[finite current]

the game wasnt slop until they gave up on hard stages and started purposly making units overpowered

[novel shoal]

Or something like Doom Eternal where mastering the games mechanics makes you nigh unstoppable

[verbal pasture]

thats why they always listen to me i know ball

[next mist]

Utd is perfectly balanced and it is fun so I have no idea whats pyseph talking about here

av still the better game tho

i just wish they fixed the balancing

[verbal pasture]

I think there’s a severe disconnect between development and the community. AV being the one of the biggest ATD around will have to adhere to community pressure but I feel like they tend to listen to who’s the loudest

[next mist]

yea but them listening to the community sometimes doesnt fix the main issue

like i dont understand why av cant make an update where none of the units become top 1

in dps or utility or support

[verbal pasture]

They shouldn’t always listen to the community they have insight as developers to know what’s good for the games health. They caved into pressure either by the player base or games like ALS succeeding at the time to crank up the power creep to gain a higher CCU but it’s a short time solution that leads to long term pains

[next mist]

like for example utd just released an update where the units are EVEN in the top 5 best units still the update was well recived

[verbal lark]

Bw real would you play an update without a new top three unit?

[next mist]

yes

[verbal pasture]

Every update that doesn’t change the meta in some way gets flamed. People don’t find units worth farming if they don’t have value which is fair but AV doesn’t bother giving units unique value anymore since most niches have been deleted or neglected mainly PVP and LB

[next mist]

I played the utd update got the units and as i said they aint even top 5

[verbal lark]

Most people go for meta unit the reason utd is retaining players rn is because people have months worth of content to play

[verbal pasture]

Also AV hasn’t done team synergies well units only synergies within the same update

[next mist]

if they whould make the game harder and made some units instead of dealing like 10m damage do something usefull that helps people beat the hard gamemode no one whould have an issue

[verbal pasture]

They won’t make the game harder because they attribute it to low CCU

[next mist]

yes bc when they make the game harder they do it in a dumb way

making the game harder doesnt mean make enemys have more health

it means to make a stage where u have to use your brain to beat it

[next mist]

well i hope they gonna "attribute" low CCU to powercreep too

[vague sedge]

I think one of the biggest issues with the current balance is that everything ends up revolving around Gohan, Sakura, and Ichigo or just Naruto teams

There are a lot of other cool units that simply aren’t viable right now, which really limits variety and makes the meta feel repetitive

The addition of memories is a really nice idea, but it still feels pretty limited. If there were a better way to improve or scale different units, it would make the game much more fun and allow more variety instead of everyone using the same teams

[mossy yacht]

well hey, at least they do tend to listen to suggestions every now and then

and its quite self evident especially when ccu are very low and look for some gud suggestions to win back the community

[novel shoal]

Id love to see units like Zeke, Eren, Buu, Sin, and Kenpachi be meta at some point

They should completely rethink how they approach memorias.

[mossy yacht]

wasnt aot received poorly as well at some point?

[cinder flower]

I think where memorias lack is the customization aspect

[novel shoal]

Mainly due to none of the units being worthwhile except for Armin and maybe Zeke

[mossy yacht]

i think this update has lower ccu than aot tho

[novel shoal]

It does

[cinder flower]

It’s a good concept but completely useless when you put a vanguard memoria on

[mossy yacht]

they did kinda bounced back with escanor tho i think

[novel shoal]

Memorias should be used to drastically alter a units passives so they are played differently

[cinder flower]

That was after the av civil rights war, making an easier vanguard did buff player counts also adding a relatively easy game mode to farm + a portal unit to incentivize other farming means

[mossy yacht]

they really shot themself in the foot after that generational ichigo update icl

[novel shoal]

It was the chainsaw man update where they shot themselves in the foot

[mossy yacht]

what was the ccu back then? i only came back to play after 1 year

i still kept up with the av news tho

[cinder flower]

Being fair it was atleast somewhat understandable

[novel shoal]

It had a similar drop off to something like the Buu Saga update did

[cinder flower]

Actually wait what am I saying wasn’t that the upd to introduce alucard’s memoria and vf?

[mossy yacht]

buu update did have a lot of ccu iircc

i think it was 140k or something

[verbal pasture]

Im so biased i loved that update

[cinder flower]

It was heavily hyped but hella short of content

Most of the ccu was farming Buu portals

[novel shoal]

nah like 110k at max

[cinder flower]

I love chainsaw man but the update was just alr to me

[verbal pasture]

i just wish the csm units where meta for longer than 1 update lol

[novel shoal]

It felt exactly like the Naruto update
Nothing about the content outside of LC was actually challenging

story and legend stage sucked

[cinder flower]

I wish interesting units like doflamingo weren’t just shafted

[vague sedge]

Yeah, I really hope they consider that and expand the system a bit more in the future

[verbal pasture]

Alocard VF was gas cuz i had him monarch since 0.5

but like i said im extremely biased lol

[cinder flower]

If you ask me for my completely unbiased opinion they just need to make a persona update 🤷‍♂️

[mossy yacht]

get out of here lol

[novel shoal]

or do a batman arkham update

[cinder flower]

💔

[mossy yacht]

battlepass at best

[verbal pasture]

theyre scared to make game updates cuz of GG lol

[mossy yacht]

that

[novel shoal]

The batman arkham games would make for a fucking fire update

[mossy yacht]

no one was talking about the persona anime, just the game

[verbal pasture]

HOT TAKE aside from PvP GG was an amazing updates especially visually

[cinder flower]

Thing is looking back at it the update wasn’t even that bad, it’s just the execution where they dropped the ball

[mossy yacht]

yes, wish the animation were a lil smoother tho

[cinder flower]

Exactly, the units were extremely interesting

[vague sedge]

In my opinion, the GG update brought some of the best unit models in the game so far

[cinder flower]

Still haven’t gotten elfelt tho I never got that 2%

[cinder flower]

Her shiny was amazing I wish I had it

[verbal pasture]

All the GG units where so unique and EX stages could have been the start of something amazing

Baiken quest was horrible tho

[vague sedge]

animated hair, animated faces, everything just feels more alive and polished

[mossy yacht]

rolled monarch on her just for her to get shafted, one of the reasons why i only came back a year later

[verbal pasture]

Shiny Dizzy and elphelt omg so clean

[vague sedge]

Kazzy has the best model in the game, easily my favorite unit

[mossy yacht]

gearboy has the best cosmetics

[cinder flower]

Esp the shiny omg that cosmetic is amazing

[verbal pasture]

they needed to give one to Sol badguy

[cinder flower]

It sucks that notgoodguy’s shiny didn’t have a cosmetic

[verbal pasture]

They should give elphelt a VF that reverts her love shot nerf lowkey

[mossy yacht]

she doesnt need that, she already has it on her kit

just enable the mechanics again

[verbal pasture]

But then she can get another passive along with 1200000% dmg increase

[mossy yacht]

thats another story

[vague sedge]

I think that’s even more reason for them to consider giving us a way to actually build units

[scarlet garden]

Yea they dropped the ball with memorias hard

[fleet shale]

I like illya’s kit

[signal zealot]

even despite the fact i got monarch makima and denji with both 200 rerolls my bias cant win over here with how mid that update was 😭

[signal zealot]

i mean..minus dante and vergil in this latest update, those two made DoT's meta

[verbal pasture]

most of the current meta are units from this update?

3/5 of the top 5 units are from this update

[signal zealot]

that and 2.75 adding two more 😭

[verbal pasture]

only top meta units that arent from the past 2 updates are sinbad and beru

[signal zealot]

but thats mostly cause they are uhh

kinda cracked with setups

sinbad especially but i dont even really count him cause hes rare to even get from banner so he's gonna be good 😭

[verbal pasture]

"rare" 💀

[signal zealot]

i still havent gotten him

for me it is 😭 that mf DOESNT EXIST FOR ME

[verbal pasture]

LOL

i got him like 15+ times

[signal zealot]

sucks cause i really need him bad considering the frieren fern setup i have going on rn

[verbal pasture]

chat is this aura?

[signal zealot]

gonna just say this again cause like, UTDX Dante and Vergil are done so much better then AV lowkey

vergil actually has beowulf for one 💀

[verbal pasture]

theyre a perfect jumping on point for new players and next update is Wano + Guilds

[signal zealot]

is ant king that good?? ive been thinking about getting him

[verbal pasture]

yeah even better with SJW

[signal zealot]

i just see people using him alot

[verbal pasture]

hes a DOT demon

[signal zealot]

might need to then, right now im just tryna get a team ready for universal tears cause i def cant beat it atm

[verbal pasture]

since you have frieren matchmake the world raid and use her shes really good there

[signal zealot]

shes ruler as well so thats nice

i need to grind it out anyway so i'll just do it for ant king

[verbal pasture]

gives good RR too

[signal zealot]

kinda what i like about UTDX as well? The amount of daily reset rerolls

😭 read like the first part

[verbal pasture]

There’s nothing they can add to the game to farm rerolls that will be better than Cid or the event banner

[signal zealot]

which is unfortunate cause both of those methods are such a slog

[timber finch]

they did say that the new gamemodes are gonna give out thousands of rerolls after maxing them out

who knows what "maxing out" could mean but we'll see

[signal zealot]

im js not sure if its gonna be enough if they keep going with the team based units where you need monarch on all of them only for them to get powercrept the very next update and repeat the cycle

[verbal pasture]

I just need them to be fun and replayable

[signal zealot]

im just getting really tired of the team based units, i kinda wanna start getting individual kits instead of it being apart of multiple.

with the same mechanic etc

[timber finch]

it'll balance out if you can get a respectful amount of rrs from these gamemodes to match the needs of monarch on new units

it'll kinda be cooked for a bit since there are still people who have over 10k rrs as of now, but that'll make it a bit more fair

[next mist]

we had dante and virgil this upd

[signal zealot]

i sure hope so honestly

[timber finch]

That's definitely what they're going for anyway, also with odyssey rework being pretty much confirmed i have high hopes

unless it isn't odyssey 😥

[signal zealot]

boss rush needs to get changed 😭

[novel shoal]

Yeah there needs to be more going on in them.

Boss rush where in thirty waves there’s three bosses to fight

Have there be like five or six of them to fight

[verbal pasture]

Bro we only had 2 units this update ofc the odds of them being top Meta is low it’s a .75 patch lol

And they’re designed to be new player accessible/friendly

[verbal pasture]

I wouldn’t be shocked if it isn’t lol

I would love for them to rework existing game modes tho I think the #1 priority would be to rework guilds that’s something that if they got down a ton of ppl could farm after updates

Especially if they add more to the shop like units, mounts, etc like they have on the tabs

[upper chasm]

if only memorias actually helped old units meaningfully

[signal zealot]

just got ruler on yuta 💀

[timber finch]

I can't think of any other gamemode that fits the leak they posted besides it

[scarlet garden]

U guys play utd right where do i get frieren

[timber finch]

but who knows

[signal zealot]

stage 3 legend stage on "beyond journey" i think? it has journey in the name

[verbal pasture]

He’s good, there’s a JJK team with him sukuna and gojo

I just got his shiny today

[signal zealot]

thats what im aiming for basically

but universal tears are kinda brutal

[verbal pasture]

Yuta, sukuna, gojo, flex/ryu
sukuna, Virgil, Dante, Beru
Sjw, beru, igris, gojo/sukuna
sinbad, frieren, fern, flex
These are the main teams that are really good to run rn

[signal zealot]

im just going full jjk

[verbal pasture]

If they reword odyssey and guilds I’ll be happy as a clam I can replay those all day lol

[timber finch]

dunno about guilds but I'm really excited for odyssey

it had so much potential, man.

[verbal pasture]

I’m a big advocate for more social aspects to the game. Multiplayer content has so much potential especially for competitive

[signal zealot]

ant king world event is fun af

[timber finch]

I don't mind multiplayer games but just not forced ones, I already hate existing ones because of AFKers and others who'd just ruin the run for no reason.

[verbal lark]

I agree with this but it feels like people don't enjoy it as much

Maybe because ques aren't fast or matches take too long idk

[verbal pasture]

That’s why I think it being an optional thing is good, you don’t have to interact with guilds they won’t directly interfere with day to day play similar to PvP

[timber finch]

Queueing is fine mostly but it's the players

[gritty imp]

In your suggestion you were implying that the devs SHOULD listen to us

[verbal pasture]

I agree to an extent, I do think it has a lot of potential having massive raid feeling events like something out of WOW or Destiny could be very fun I hope they execute kaido’s raid well

[gritty imp]

now they should not listen?

[verbal lark]

People will always not like forced multiplayer content even if it's not in a major place like guilds

One of the things I liked about the recent utd updates was the beru event

[timber finch]

oh yeah this suggestion is probably getting locked tomorrow

[verbal lark]

Not sure how something like that would work in this game tho

[timber finch]

sad times

[verbal pasture]

AV devs do this really stupid thing of just taking the loudest part of the community at face value and rush to push out a change to save face instead of listening to the insightful part of the community. They’re so fast to nerf units and change entire game structures like difficulty on the whine of a 20 star suggestion but when they get genuine criticism it goes over their heads

I do believe there are parts of the community that should not be listened to

[signal zealot]

defintely agree to that ngl

[verbal pasture]

It would get flamed for their forcing ppl to play it multiplayer so they can’t autoplay it or get flamed for copying

[verbal lark]

Honestly yea

[charred plover]

TRUTH NUKE

[novel shoal]

Truth Nuke

Only thing I can agree with ppl like Nag on is that memorias are designed like shit

[verbal pasture]

Universal passives need to be more then dmg for doing X thing

They’re all 30% dmg increases so all the memoria you see are Alocard

[novel shoal]

Unit Exclusive passives could be so much more

[signal zealot]

the amount of itmes ive read the same exact passive in a different way is insane

DMG Increase when x is getting ABITTTT TIRING

[novel shoal]

I could honestly careless about global passives, memorias dont encourage buildcrafting at this moment.
If anything it undermines it

[timber finch]

the only one that's remotely interesting is sunraku's one

which kinda still sucks besides the 10% crit chance

[upper chasm]

use sinbad + frieren they solo

[signal zealot]

its kinda why i've felt this game has been getting stale passive wise lately, things used to be interesting and they juts feel meh now

[signal zealot]

don't have sinbad 💀

i can get gojo a lil bit below half with just yuta and frieren, i def think i can do it with a crit build with fern lowkey

i know for SURE i can do it when Ryu gets ruler

[novel shoal]

There's like one passive that defines their entire kit and the rest is filler
This is more apparent on recent secret units

[abstract hazel]

????

You place one unit, turn on auto upgrade, and set it as the autoplay

That sh is not fun

[upper chasm]

js team queue then

[signal zealot]

i mean in terms of how an actual world event should be portrayed, i just personally enjoy it

[novel shoal]

who else here could care less about like 90% of the relic system in UTD

-# Also calling the game UTDX is like calling Twitter X, why did they have rebrand their game

[signal zealot]

well anything that isn't a mythic relic is just not good obviously

[abstract hazel]

Eh

I kinda get it

But the one unit at a time thing really takes away from it

[signal zealot]

like it should be a large group of people fighting one thing with alot of health, could they do it better to make it more engaging? absolutely 😭

[novel shoal]

It's a weird mix of genshins artifact system and Injustice mobile's gear system

[signal zealot]

if htey do something like that with the same style it would be a blast

[abstract hazel]

It's a very poor first impression of it tbh. The only thing is matchmaking into it with 11 other people

[signal zealot]

i just see the potential of it, just hope its expanded on pretty much

[novel shoal]

Only thing I care about in Relics are the full set perks

[signal zealot]

i like those alot

[novel shoal]

Side perks honestly dont mean shit to me

[signal zealot]

they are nice to have but thats it pretty much

[abstract hazel]

Now that the substats are a bit more understood, it's better for the sake of trying to minmax them

[signal zealot]

i do like the system though cause of how you can kinda build your units in the way you want with a specific niche in mind

[abstract hazel]

but grinding said relics is just eugh

[novel shoal]

minmaxing is cringe imo

if the unit needs substats to be meta, it's not good

[upper chasm]

so close to utd suggestions

this is not g2 oops

[signal zealot]

def think that can be abit better, you pretty much just go into afk world and just..do nothing 😭

if you ARENT manually grinding that is

[abstract hazel]

auto farm stage, find which relics out of dozens have the right main stat you want and have 5 substats rolled, sell everything else
upgrade a few times, see if substat levels go into different substats, sell if they do

[abstract hazel]

afk world is so pointless

[novel shoal]

Anyone else getting Anime Final Strike vibes from UTD

[abstract hazel]

the in game match is the afk world now, they've defeated the point behind their chamber

[civic shuttle]

Afk world is just worse macro and they have a built in macro

[civic shuttle]

In what way?

[novel shoal]

It's how it's presented

[civic shuttle]

I do not get those vibes

Idk afs just felt like worse als to me

[novel shoal]

-# also holy shite UTD lobby runs like ass

[signal zealot]

fair enough yea, i kinda forget sometimes this game has it built in 💀 i never use it

[civic shuttle]

Isnt it most of their maps

Ror map killed my fps

[signal zealot]

i usually dont have issues on most maps

[novel shoal]

I run the game on a 14700KF processor and 9070xt and can only get sub 70 FPS in the lobby

[signal zealot]

lobby does run kinda shit though

[signal zealot]

imagine what its like with me on a 2060 💀

[novel shoal]

sub 50

[signal zealot]

yep

[abstract hazel]

I use it for my raid currency farming, my relic farming, and for running tears

[signal zealot]

i do think its nice that it exists (even if i dont use it) so mobile players aren't just completely unable to compete with people who can, although idk how good it is on mobile so

[abstract hazel]

It's just "record placement positions, record when abilities are used, record when auto upgrade toggled"

[signal zealot]

about as simple as i thought it was, but it works

[formal stirrup]

which is amazing

i wish it got added

[abstract hazel]

It wont to av

lmao

autoplay's the best we're getting

[formal stirrup]

sadly

i love not having to set up rdp if i ever wanna do smth else productive while keeping the games ccu up

[novel shoal]

Now a feature that AV needs is for units to carry over trait pity after evolving them

[civic shuttle]

Autoplay works good enough as long as it stops breaking every update

[formal stirrup]

till we get more complicated gamemodes 😭

if im going to afk the thing regardlses why not js make ti easier for EVERYONE

[novel shoal]

Ion think that happening chief

[civic shuttle]

Well yea the point of complicated gamemodes it to play yourself

[abstract hazel]

Or a reason for modes to be auto farmed that much

[formal stirrup]

ppl will always manage

[civic shuttle]

Yea

[abstract hazel]

UTD has relics and their chance based rr drops

[verbal pasture]

I’ll stop using it the moment escanor falls out of meta I cba after that

[abstract hazel]

If it didn't have inbuilt automation my ass would not be doing anything with either of those

[civic shuttle]

Escanor autoplay is like the worst way to use autoplay

[formal stirrup]

im js all for it if they ever do add it

[abstract hazel]

Oh yeah and the raid coins

[formal stirrup]

dont see ppl complaining

[novel shoal]

As long as the devs add mechanics to enemies/bosses (they won't), you'll have to scrap him

[formal stirrup]

besides when it bugs

[signal zealot]

hopefully with what they have been saying we will see how that goes from here on out

[abstract hazel]

I don't have high hopes, if I'm being completely honest

I just don't think the direction they're trying to go is going to be sustainable or healthy in the long term

[civic shuttle]

5 million more codes

[novel shoal]

Also doesn't help they gave out like 1,000 trait rerolls this update alone via codes

[fleet shale]

are we adding any animals in av

[formal stirrup]

i mean fairs bro i dont think the codes are the ones upholding cc tho 😭

[civic shuttle]

I mean they definitely help

Free units and monarchs are nice

[signal zealot]

i mean the units they are giving out via codes are far out of meta it just helps new players if anything, only thing rn is the rerolls but like i said they are doing smth to make it less of an issue of giving out that much so meh

[formal stirrup]

yeah but i think its more the consistency and the fact they talk alot in announcements/sneaks

like ppl see wow the owners are sneaking and talking alot i should spend time on this game because the dev team seems to be way more active

[abstract hazel]

In a way, they kinda are. It gets new players funneling in, it gives them reason to play, it gives them units that can actually autorun the farming content for them. If UTD didn't just spam drop codes, players would be a lot worse off and not staying in the game

[signal zealot]

well you are also forgetting that AV isn't doing so hot right now as well

[formal stirrup]

beginning is not thattt bad

[abstract hazel]

Personally I wish they'd stop talking so damn much, it just gets annoying with some of the stuff they say

[abstract hazel]

that too

[formal stirrup]

i can start a fresh alt and get nearly end game in a week

[abstract hazel]

UTD is giving them actual competition until 12.5 drops

[signal zealot]

haven't seen the CCU this low since..like SBR Update? Dandadan? around there?

[fleet shale]

lower

[formal stirrup]

better then no communication

[signal zealot]

Fate Update?? Idk that was like 4k 😭😭

[formal stirrup]

we'll see cause if 12.5 flops ppl are gonna glaze utd forever

[abstract hazel]

I'm fine with the lack of it personally

[signal zealot]

i'd rather have a dev actively talking and engaging then being radio silent for the most part and only saying something when the update is close personally

[abstract hazel]

Game updates when it does

[formal stirrup]

ion like that at all

[abstract hazel]

UTD yaps a lil too much for my taste. And a lotta times about pointless stuff

[signal zealot]

i still think even when AV does update that UTD will be fine, that is under the assumption the madara update will be good though 😭

[novel shoal]

It'll probably be just as fine as the other event updates
I'm more interested if they'll actually learn and do better with 13.0

[fleet shale]

I’m more excited for the worldline

[signal zealot]

theres a worldline unit i think they might do but im also thinking they shouldn't do it right now

[civic shuttle]

Everyday they ping me i think about just leaving their disc

[abstract hazel]

but the codes

[signal zealot]

you could just..set notifications to where it wont ping you 😭

[abstract hazel]

Also I get the feeling 12.5 is going to sweep UTD anyways

[civic shuttle]

If the codes from the past week give me sinbad maybe I'll stay

[civic shuttle]

Yoo I lowk forgot you can do that

[novel shoal]

Probably
Devs generally do better with x.5 updates

[formal stirrup]

we havent seen MUCH bro

[formal stirrup]

yh .5s are always the same concept tho so thats sad

[civic shuttle]

U haven't

[novel shoal]

Which is why I'm not interested in this update, personally

[signal zealot]

i highly doubt it will absolutely SWEEP and blow it out of the water but a good majority probably will at least come back, but again thats under the assumption this update will be good

[formal stirrup]

if you could compare this update to another update content wise IF you can what update would it compare too

[signal zealot]

and trust me i WANT this update to be good, this update actually took me out of AV so much 😭😭

[civic shuttle]

Hmmm
Idk honestly

[abstract hazel]

I'm def gonna be playing at least one of the modes a lot

[fleet shale]

I hope the banner units are interesting

[formal stirrup]

if the rewards are good lol

[signal zealot]

some of the gamemodes they sneaked look like something i'll grind if the rewards are good

[abstract hazel]

They will be

[formal stirrup]

i would love to shiny hunt

[abstract hazel]

oh

lol

lmao

[novel shoal]

Honestly they did fine with the winter mythics
Those fall exclusives though... yikes

[signal zealot]

i'll have to see for myself how the update goes but i hope it goes well for AV's sake

[fleet shale]

they sold with black star

[signal zealot]

don't remind me 😭

[novel shoal]

Szayela could've been a good summoner but nah

[formal stirrup]

cant wait to grind the 3 new gamemodes for just more rerolls and gems

[signal zealot]

if they used manga black star he easily would have been secret material

[civic shuttle]

Does black star really have the motion to be a secret tho

[novel shoal]

Black Star needed to be in a soul eater update

[fleet shale]

we aint getting soul eater update

[abstract hazel]

Hey, we need those rerolls

[fleet shale]

AT best we can get shinra for summer

[novel shoal]

I think alot of people would be happier with that over a big 3 update or dragon ball

[signal zealot]

by the end of the series hes the strongest tied with Kid and literally called a "warrior god" 😭 problem is soul eater is kind of an old anime/manga (which the anime DESPERATELY NEEDS A REMAKE)

[full marten]

I will be happier when they put a good videogame character in wordlines or bp again, i cant spare them for the metal gear characters

[signal zealot]

so i dont agree with it having an update

[civic shuttle]

Yea im not talking about strength i mean popularity

[novel shoal]

Give us Spawn lmao

[signal zealot]

if a remake comes out maybe its worth

[civic shuttle]

Secrets tend to be at least somewhat hype

[novel shoal]

Spawn would be a great worldlines unit

[signal zealot]

again i already have an idea of whta the worldlines unit could be but i

REALLLY hope its not as much as i would love to see him

[fleet shale]

the worldline is roger

[signal zealot]

the anime (when it comes out in 2027) deserves its own update

[formal stirrup]

WHOS WE

[civic shuttle]

Kagurabachi?

[abstract hazel]

most players bro

[formal stirrup]

Chihiro wl would do wonders btw

[civic shuttle]

Own update would be cooler

[signal zealot]

yea lol, thinking they make chihiro wl but i DONT WANT THEM to do that, they need to WAIIIIT

[novel shoal]

Aki Angel duo unit when

[formal stirrup]

FAIR

[civic shuttle]

Enough time bas passed

[signal zealot]

kagurabachi is that peak it deserves its own update genuinely

[fleet shale]

I think sub zero and scorpion could fit

[formal stirrup]

again let’s forget abt the ppl who actually play the game ALOT

[novel shoal]

A bit basic, but those would be good battlepass characters

[formal stirrup]

just rerolls and mem shards will never be enough for ppl to play a gamemode

[civic shuttle]

Minority

Winter macroers are not that many ppl

[abstract hazel]

the people who farmed the presents/gems for normalizing rr farms

are a minority of the playerbase

[signal zealot]

like with a kagurabachi update there is plenty of unit options 💀 they gotta wait before adding chihiro

[lunar crystal]

They gotta wait for the anime first

[signal zealot]

exactly what im thinking

[lean gust]

av is better overall except for some aspects being balance

[civic shuttle]

Just needs anime to be popular
But with all the glazing I think ppl will give it a chance and watch it

[novel shoal]

Game needs a demon slayer update

[civic shuttle]

Is that rooster fighter or a random chicken

[fleet shale]

the rooster

[signal zealot]

its deserved, its an amazing manga that i truly think hasnt hit a low point at all, and this new arc rn is VERY BOLD

[lunar crystal]

Yeah Kagurabachi is going to blow up no matter what. The mangaka hand picked the studio and made every other studio send rough animations, just to choose who gets the rights to animate his masterpiece

[signal zealot]

CyPics animating it i already KNOW its gonna be gorgeous

[verbal pasture]

The level of power creep Madara will bring to the game

[signal zealot]

💀

[abstract hazel]

its true

[novel shoal]

Nah that's gonna be the worldlines unit

somehow

[abstract hazel]

I’ve looked into the future

I see the update already

[fleet shale]

can we make ayanokoji the worldline

[signal zealot]

Idk what the meteor is called (not a naruto fan) but i already know that thing in his kit is gonna be DEVASTATING

[novel shoal]

9001% mapwide nuke

[fleet shale]

tengai shinsei

[signal zealot]

i do have plans to read it though when i catch up with everything (im not watching the anime 💀 )

[novel shoal]

Imagine Madara getting a skull kid skin and the meteor is just the fucking moon

[abstract hazel]

At max upgrade madara gets deleted and replaced by the Kaguya evo

[novel shoal]

Midara

Peakguya solos

[verbal pasture]

Worldline unit is the vending machine isekai

[fleet shale]

Kaguya gets her own tier

[formal stirrup]

but they’re probably part of the most loyal

[formal stirrup]

Just feel like not having atleast 1 unit behind these gamemodes is a big fumble

[verbal pasture]

I loved seeing it in the winter update trailer just for the game to get nuked

[novel shoal]

holy shit I saw a youtuber compare AVs update to ALS'

and put them on the same tier

[fleet shale]

Als update was like one of the most garbage things to touch roblox

[civic shuttle]

12.0 to alsx?

[verbal lark]

yo chillll 😭

[fleet shale]

even dandandan was better than w3

[novel shoal]

Like I get 12.0 was a nothingburger of an update but it's an insult to compare it to world 3

[verbal pasture]

I’m in an out of touch competition and my opponent is an ATD YT, Pyseph, and Brandon the boss

[fleet shale]

This the tier list

Vegeta is high because the game has NO hill units

[novel shoal]

Legendary unit in 2nd place

[civic shuttle]

Why is kenpachi naked

[novel shoal]

ALS pickin the most normie fuck units

[civic shuttle]

Or is that even kenpachi

[fleet shale]

The ea testers literally told them to NERF flying enemies because they had the same hp as ground enemies

[verbal lark]

am i blind or is yuta just not there

[scarlet garden]

Als w3 is genuinely the worst upd ive ever seen

[fleet shale]

they dont even work in w3

[abstract hazel]

Didn’t he just not work

[verbal pasture]

The valentines units don’t work

[abstract hazel]

Because he was entirely passive reliant

[verbal pasture]

They don’t have passives

[abstract hazel]

And all w2 unit passives were just removed

[verbal lark]

did they not have like a week of ea

[abstract hazel]

So Yuta just did literally nothing

[verbal pasture]

They all do the same dmg spa and range and leveling them up doesn’t change stats

[verbal lark]

didnt they say valentine units would be good in the new world?

[abstract hazel]

Yep

[fleet shale]

they lied

[verbal pasture]

Yup

[abstract hazel]

They would be worth grinding because they would give you a head start in w3

[verbal lark]

https://tenor.com/view/lygus-zandar-hsr-honkai-star-rail-if-you-laugh-gif-18049938784433898886

[upper chasm]

i mean he probably will ngl 🥀
no way they make madara anywhere close to not #1

[abstract hazel]

And today they just disabled transferring the w2 units anyways

[fleet shale]

They’re going to remove w2 units in w3 apparently

[upper chasm]

now is that a good thing
not really tbh
but will it happen
definitely

[abstract hazel]

Because it caused too many issues

[verbal lark]

this is our als

a grand total of 25 rrs for that btw

[fleet shale]

They want the game to have strategy and failed at it 😭

[novel shoal]

Boss Studio just needs to go away atp

Jesus christ

[verbal pasture]

ALS and AA trying to drain the player base of all the money they can the moment rent is due

[novel shoal]

I have more faith in FruitySama than I do with Brandon

[verbal pasture]

Brandon needs is third house, pay 40 dollars for shiny hunter

[civic shuttle]

Chat gpt will save their balancing trust

[fleet shale]

then you got the lead tester who’s failing at his job

[verbal pasture]

That SS is so funny 😭

[novel shoal]

FruitySama should've never humored updating OG ASTD

[civic shuttle]

Brandon the unintentionally funniest creator on roblox

[novel shoal]

He's legit the lolcow of ATD devs

[fleet shale]

als is saved

[novel shoal]

inb4 Brandon starts suing ATD devs via ChatGPT like he's LowTierGod

[verbal pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/gem-alert-gif-14590606955304525995

[verbal lark]

😭 ?

[civic shuttle]

Brandon gonna sick copyright lawyers onto the atds that are succeeding

[ocean storm]

Is it really that bad of an idea to have units locked behind drop chances and making more hard content

I know the devs, was it Pyseph? Who want to focus on newer players and easier contents…

But newer players shouldn’t be getting the same amount of rewards that older players had already invested in this game

Would make the game actully have something to aim for and grind

[novel shoal]

This game puts too much focus on new players

Zoro and Naruto wreck the shit out of story/legend stages

[ocean storm]

They made everything too easy

I actually want to grind a unit locked behind a drop chance. I do tournaments but they get repetitive and they’re competitive.

[abstract hazel]

You are not a real person, I refuse to believe this

Who in their right mind genuinely wants drop chance units

[unkempt jetty]

me

[mossy yacht]

my luck is already terrible considering i hit 3 pities for sokora

def wouldnt want something as egregious as drop chance units

[abstract hazel]

Long grinds are fine, as long as there's steady progress

but reliant on chance is such a horrid thing. ATDs have rotted our brains

[full marten]

Back to igris and yamamoto times

[mossy yacht]

😭

[full marten]

[unkempt jetty]

damn mf

[mossy yacht]

wasnt igris stage 10? it was almost impossible to afk farm bc of the statues

iirc it did kinda work bc of uryu

[full marten]

It indeed was

First and last time i farmed smth manually

[abstract hazel]

ur werent supposed to agree with him

[timid cradle]

ban him again he hasnt learned his lesson

[mossy yacht]

we should bring 25 minutes ads to AV to redeem a unit frfr

[abstract hazel]

we should get av sponsored by red zone

[mossy yacht]

tuff

[unkempt jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-reacts-ftc-gif-10344871754903558430

[polar turtle]

@modping

[carmine summit]

<@&1328084665143132258>

[lime carbon]

@carmine summit your modping was counted (+1).

[fleet shale]

what happened

[paper inlet]

iunno

[dusky dragon]

EVERYONE RELAX.

[abstract hazel]

[latent hinge]

Bro if you warn nether

[fallen trout]

[latent hinge]

Just warn him ngl