Change pity for alucard or add a title for people that got it before pity

[night wind]

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[zealous adder]

gems r like one of the easiest ressources to get😭

[runic hornet]

If it’s one of the easiest resources to get then what’s the point of pity that don’t make sense

[zealous adder]

so its gauranteed instead of rng

[runic hornet]

Exactly but that’s the whole point of the game it’s a luck based game

[zealous adder]

theoretically u can invest a lot and never get him
just isnt fun and keeps ppl locked out of potentially one of th best units of the upd
idm them making pity super high tho

[zealous adder]

if u think everything being based on luck is fun and brings players then idk what to tell u

[novel glen]

this is such a non issue bra

[runic hornet]

That’s the exact base of the game is that you get lucky and show off ur units 🤣 its the grind and getting the units that draws people in I have no issue with pity but for every unit it just don’t make sense

[steel ferry]

making the game so where some people are just never allowed to experience content just isnt a good idea

[zealous adder]

theres pity for everything except him
it isnt fully luck based

[runic hornet]

Exactly and even he is gonna have pity

[zealous adder]

ur point?

[runic hornet]

No I get that but just a few units that is rare and hard to obtain

[steel ferry]

he'll still be incredibly difficult to obtain

[runic hornet]

Exactly my point is everything has a pity u literally just proved my point

[zealous adder]

everything has a pity for a reason...

[runic hornet]

I doubt it but I guess we will just see

[fathom rapids]

he will

its gems not event currency so will still take some time

[zealous adder]

meh thats not rly true
limitless gives u hella
though it is longer than the recent event vanguards😭

i js hope he gets swapped out after this

[novel glen]

real they should put makima in the banner as the new secret

[zealous adder]

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[novel glen]

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[steel ferry]

theres already way to many limited units in the game 😭

[zealous adder]

who cares tbh
theres no urgency anymore
if missed and want smth just trade it
theres no comp so theres no need beyond just wanting it cause u like it

also i just think the potential for cool gem banner vanguards that dont fit into seasonals or quests outweighs the few that missed the old gem vanguards yk

[steel ferry]

forcing people who just started the game to have to give up the items and units they worked for just to get a unit they like also isnt a great thing

[zealous adder]

u right
just the potential outweights the negatives here

[zealous adder]

and its not like they need to give up much...

though ig thats subjective

[runic hornet]

Agreed Definitely should be more secret units in gem banner I don’t get why they don’t add more units

[zealous adder]

cause gems are too easy to get prolly😭

though atp in time it lowkey balances out with memorias

[runic hornet]

I mean not really you barely get much gems for anything

Infinites barely give any gems and quests don’t give much either

[zealous adder]

limitless and cid raid give A LOT

[fathom rapids]

lowk

[runic hornet]

Really ?

[fathom rapids]

depends what they make the pity for him if it’s 2mil gem total like the other vanguard pities gl

[runic hornet]

It says cid raid gives 150 gems

[flint storm]

So that players don't have to spend tens of millions of currency and feel like they're getting shafted because their time was entirely wasted with nothing to show for it

like this is just common sense gang

[zealous adder]

yes in 24 hours
cid raid(with 45sec completion) gives 288000
limitless(with 4m completion) gives 180000

so not hard at all
cid raid barrier to entry with fast completions is kinda high
since u need monarch sasuke
but limitless barrier to entry is like nothing

[runic hornet]

And how about those that spent that much gems and got him eventually ?

[zealous adder]

then good for them?

[runic hornet]

Fair

[flint storm]

Good for them?

It still feels like shit

It's a lot better having a pity to work towards

Instead of just pulling and pulling and pulling and potentially just never getting him

[zealous adder]

its just cause alus been here so long

[runic hornet]

So those that grinded for that long and got the units and spent millions of gems now it’s up for pity for a lot less that just seems a lil unfair I get new units with pity

But why do a unit that’s been there from the start

[jade solar]

“Remove pity”😭😭😭

[zealous adder]

cause designs change over time
the main focus of the game changed overtime
simple as that

[flint storm]

Because alucard's going to be getting buffs that revolve around him?

So pity makes him accessible to both newer players and players that just got shit on with banner luck no matter how long they've been playing?

And the design philosophy in the beginning thought pities were a dumb idea, apparently.

[zealous adder]

cause like

money ig

[flint storm]

not giving a focal rare unit some form of pity would just be a shit idea

How are players meant to feasibly interact with the added content otherwise

[zealous adder]

ye i mean hes prob the chase unit
that and maybe makima

so making a chase unit u cant chase is obv bad for business

[flint storm]

It's not even really that it's a chase, it just looks like they're giving him a VF and memoria

[runic hornet]

There’s a reason Pity wasn’t added in the beginning it’s called a luck based game they changed that overtime which is fair enough just thought it was a lil unfair to those that have already spent so many gems for a rare unit when people can now get it for a pity price

[zealous adder]

other guys post was slightly better
adding a title is like a small thing thats cool yk

[runic hornet]

Yes true

[runic hornet]

I also said that look at my title

[zealous adder]

ye i mean
just removing pity is a bad idea yk

title is fine tho🤔

[runic hornet]

Yh guess so well I probably should word it better instead of remove pity for alucard just have units that do not have pity in future just very rare units

[flint storm]

No, the reason is because the old devs were dumbasses who didn’t give two shits about respecting a player’s time for the basic loop of gameplay

Who in their right mind thought the Igris grind on release was good design

0.75% no pity

[runic hornet]

Damn sounds like you got somethin against them

[slate oasis]

dogshit suggestion

[flint storm]

That something is the fact that they ran their game into the ground and almost killed it

[runic hornet]

Alr honestly couldn’t care less 🤣

[neon pewter]

make the pity have a chance to not work

[flint storm]

Holup let him cook

[runic hornet]

Well I mean the game was doing pretty well

[flint storm]

No, no it wasn’t

DDD update? SBR?

Game was on the brink of dying

[neon pewter]

isnt sbr the worst received upd

[zealous adder]

man just increase the pity to like 1.5x instead of the normal 1x pulls at the MAX
that depends on if he’s limited or not tho ig🤔

[runic hornet]

Good point actually issue is I feel like people would be so sad if they was excited bout pity just to lose to a 50/50

[zealous adder]

though i don’t even think that’s a good idea

[zealous adder]

don’t most gacha games have like a 50/50 thingy?

[neon pewter]

i think we should worry about how the memoria will be obtain rather than alucard getting a pity

[flint storm]

It depends on the system

Like hoyo weapons and stuff

[runic hornet]

DDD update was huge it was a bad update but I remember 40k plus people playing

[zealous adder]

memoria gem banner 😭

[flint storm]

Where you can pity and not hit the featured weapons, so your next pity is guaranteed to be featured

[zealous adder]

ye that’s a massive decline compared to the previous upd

[zealous adder]

ye idk if that would work on av😭

[neon pewter]

imagine if we could exchange a alucard for his memoria, i have 7 useless alucard

[runic hornet]

But for fairly new game that was on the rise it was still growing

[zealous adder]

same dw
5m gems or sum

[zealous adder]

no it only lost since release

the opposite of growing
until like 2.0 and 3.0 or sum

mainly 3.0

[flint storm]

The only way I’d see it working is with the mythics. But it doesn’t matter with vanguards because there’s only ever one available at a time

[runic hornet]

Yh I remember because of the lack of content but when they added huge amounts of content it grew faster but was always growing

[flint storm]

Also no, the game just bled players after release until 3.0 where the team changed around a lot

[zealous adder]

if it was with mythics it’d be so negligible that it wouldn’t matter
more like a slight inconvenience

[flint storm]

Honestly I think it’d be way better for new player experience

[runic hornet]

Fr

[flint storm]

Especially with the mythic unit bloat we have

[zealous adder]

no always growing js isn’t true gng😭
and it wasn’t even the lack of content
ddd to fate p1 was buns

[flint storm]

Imagine trying to pull for nami or something on selection banner and you pity five times and never get her

[zealous adder]

tuff

[runic hornet]

🤣🤣

[zealous adder]

great prog

[flint storm]

That feels awful as a new player, I think it’s genuinely a good system

It’s just that long time players see less use cases for it

Except when new updates brings new banner mythics

[runic hornet]

It was always lack of content which they said themselves I literally remember when it released when you got units there was nothing else to really do

[flint storm]

It was also the fact that the grinds were awful with no pity whatsoever

And the game mechanics they added were horrid

[runic hornet]

Also that’s a great thing they should add honestly

Keeps the game grindy but also fair

Change pity for alucard or add a title for people that got it before pity

[flint storm]

I agree, but it is what it is atp

As for the alucard pity? I don't know what they'd change about it

Or why they'd add a title, it doesn't matter

[runic hornet]

I mean might sound dumb but increasing the chance of getting alucard instead of pity

[flint storm]

instead?????

😭

No, pity needs to happen, bottom line

[runic hornet]

Yh fair to be honest I don’t get the point of suggestions

It’s gonna happen regardless 🤣

[slate oasis]

[peak blade]

for what

you prolly didnt even grind for him 😭

[pine moat]

That is basically their entire argument, "I got lucky so everyone else should get lucky or get screwed over". They'd be the ones crying the hardest if they had went like 5m without an alucard

"Wah wah wah I can't believe they're gonna make the game less of a degen gamble sim and you can get alucard if you spend millions of gems now wah wah wah"

[runic hornet]

Spent 4 mill gems to get him and I grinded infinite and raids for hours to get the gems spent them all together then I got him

[paper ibex]

alucard title would be cool tho

[runic hornet]

🤣 are u slow td games are literally just spinning for units and hoping you get lucky I get anime vanguards is trying to change the premise of the game but doesn’t help when those that did grind and spend so many gems and got lucky

Like spending 4 million gems for people to now get pity at 2 million gems

[paper ibex]

you already have alucard so why do you need any help 🤔

[pine moat]

Proving the point, you're just a crybaby mad over the fact that people don't have to go through a dogshit grind anymore just because you had to

No genuineness in the argument at all

[runic hornet]

But hey don’t comment on this suggestion your name is lordpoop clearly ain’t grown up yet

[pine moat]

Entire point is "I got fucked so you should too"

[pine moat]

Hey congratulations you are able to read my roblox user

[runic hornet]

That’s the whole point of the game 🤣🤣🤣 is grinding how do you think people got sjw

But spending 25 hours of their life grinding for it

[pine moat]

Clearly not because a pity got added

Ig you know more about what the game is than the guy who plans it

[runic hornet]

See some people struggle to read

[pine moat]

"That's what the game is" yeah because all gacha games are famous for never having pities

[runic hornet]

Alright lord poop

[paper ibex]

im talking abt you

[runic hornet]

That’s why if you try reading I said they are trying to change the premise of the game

[paper ibex]

since you already have alucard him getting pity shouldnt be an issue since it doesnt affect you

and its not like hes tradeable that its gonna change his value

[pine moat]

Gacha games have pities you're just talking to talk, or you're an aa player who never got over it and wants every game to continue having the dogshit systems it had

[runic hornet]

Once again if you read I don’t have a problem with people getting alucard just the fact that those that grinded for ages and spent so much seems unfair I spent 4 million gems to get him now with pity people can get him for 2 million gems

[pine moat]

His entire argument is "I got unlucky so nobody else should be able to get alucard at a reasonable amount of gems spent" lol

[runic hornet]

See how it’s unfair

[pine moat]

Not an argument to begin with, just being petty and bitter.

[runic hornet]

Nope never played it so your wrong there lord poop 🤣🤣

[pine moat]

Keep saying my name like a pokemon it'll make your argument more concrete mhm

[peak blade]

wouldnt matter

everything gives you gems

[gritty wagon]

upd both memoria and familiar so people start caring about alucard hm

[pine moat]

I went to 1700 rerolls on sjw back in the day they should increase the pity to 2500 because nobody should be luckier than i am

[runic hornet]

Alright but grinding and spending 4 million gems once again if you read I have no issue with people getting alucard but I feel like people that did spend it and got him should get a title or something like that but hey just my opinion

[peak blade]

a special title for what 😭

[runic hornet]

Yh everything gives you like the max probably 2k gems

[paper ibex]

you already have alucard and thats that, you just have to accept reality
besides it doesnt really matter, since alucard was useless almost this whole time so you didnt miss out on anything

people who got alucard when he was still useful just got lucky

[zealous adder]

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[runic hornet]

Said it twice but okay clown 🤣🤣🤣

[zealous adder]

getting lucky ig

[zealous adder]

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[peak blade]

"i farmed 4 million gems"

[gritty wagon]

I dont think we need alucard for monarch ainz

[pine moat]

Can't even count for fucks sake💔

[paper ibex]

bro pls level up your broly

[peak blade]

mfs deadass jus be lying 😭

[runic hornet]

I don’t know if you know this but alt account

[arctic raven]

You just really got unlucky , i dont see why you should get a title , diavolo and gogeta didnt have a pity yet they added vanguard pity after that and gave nothing

[zealous adder]

this acc made me check my profile

[peak blade]

fs bro

[zealous adder]

i wanna know how i seem to other ppl rq

[runic hornet]

I can show you that 🤣🤣

[paper ibex]

..why would you want alucard on an alt

[peak blade]

shi slide me a special title since i had og diavolo

[runic hornet]

Because I was also playing that account with this one

[arctic raven]

Naaaaaaaaaaah

[zealous adder]

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[runic hornet]

I spent gems on both accounts

[zealous adder]

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[peak blade]

ts was so peak

[paper ibex]

how do you guys even manage to do that more than 20 times, it was so boring

[arctic raven]

You sure have will for doing that 131 timds holy moly

[peak blade]

thats not even all

[zealous adder]

there was 2x on during like the last week before it left lol

[gritty wagon]

29mins give me ant king ptsd

[peak blade]

thats still 2 months before i got him

[zealous adder]

it was alr during that point

[paper ibex]

yeah i remember

[peak blade]

and alot of failed runs where i got alot of currency

[still isle]

Isn't like a pity alucard banner coming?

[paper ibex]

i did just one run for that hoping to get diavolo, but atleast i finally got seiko

[zealous adder]

yes

[arctic raven]

It is

[still isle]

Oh so this suggestion is for something that that those who already have him should get

[gritty wagon]

yes

[still isle]

Mb and yea I agree

[zealous adder]

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