Elemental Towers multiplayer fix

[floral galleon]

Currently, elemental towers has great rewards and is pretty doable with most elements. I think most ppl would like to participate in the mode but its almost impossible to find ppl on the same floor as u.

so why not make it so when u matchmake with others
it would default to the player with the highest floors scaling
but would still give u the rewards of your floor
so u could matchmake with others but it isnt so abusable that u can just get the rewards for free
infact its an active nerf to yourself as scaling is higher
but also a buff since you can play with others
Example:
im on floor 5 while my teammate is on floor 10
it would become floor 10 scaling BUT he gets his 30 rrs while i get 20 rrs
would track progress respectively aswell(teammate would be on floor 11 and id be on floor 6)

Alternative:
picks the host scaling instead
players who are under progress normally aswell and get their respective lower rewards
while players higher than the host do not progress
this is just so carrying others is possible

Benefits:

• super easy to find ppl to play with
• not abusable or floor skipping

obv mainly used for those who are close
just isnt super worth for somebody on floor 10 to matchmake with somebody on floor 70 as scaling is too high(i dont acc know floor 70 scaling just assuming)

TLDR: Make Elemental Towers matchmaking scale to the highest floor in the group, but give each player rewards and progress based on their own floor. This lets players easily find teammates without making the mode abusable or allowing free floor skipping. An alternative is host-based scaling, where only players at or below the host’s floor progress, while those above dont progress, mainly just for carrying others without absurd scaling.

[wicked zinc]

Please ensure that your suggestion follows the Suggestion Rules in #1351363086409531392,

[floral galleon]

lmk if theres any questions

[coarse shuttle]

so basically

[floral galleon]

ye i should put a tldr

[coarse shuttle]

one guy grinds to 100 then someone joins on floor 1 and gets 99 floors rewards heh

[spare atlas]

I’ll allow it.

[floral galleon]

no

[sick verge]

This might be aura

[coarse shuttle]

me and valk has to think about this and well give our ansswer soon

[spare atlas]

did u even read it bro

[glacial harness]

bump

[spare atlas]

😭

[coarse shuttle]

nope

[floral galleon]

what happens is some guy grinds to floor 100
player whos on floor 1 joins
and has to play on floor 100 scaling
but gets floor 2 rewards

[coarse shuttle]

but thing is first itll take 67 days to contact lawyers in order to implement this

[floral galleon]

doesnt require lawyers
only me.

[glacial harness]

hey that’s me there

[floral galleon]

have u found ppl yet?

[coarse shuttle]

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put memoria RRs in there

[floral galleon]

sum sum

@carmine patrol twin star

[glacial harness]

no 😭😭

[floral galleon]

shocker

[glacial harness]

had to drop to unbound 15 brah 💔

[crude crag]

elemental towers in the big 2026

[floral galleon]

if u dont start at 1 ur fried

[floral galleon]

i would play it if this was ingame🥹

[coarse shuttle]

each floors should give 1k RR and memoria RR

[crude crag]

who is running elemental towers lb with me

[coarse shuttle]

then i might hop in

[strange pivot]

tuff

[glacial harness]

they give hella good rewards tbf

[floral galleon]

i fw it for the 500 stat chips

[glacial harness]

just the way matchmaking is done is really stupid

[crude crag]

who needs that when wl lb rewards existed

[spare atlas]

only reason ppl don’t run s cause how shit it is to find ppl on ur floor

[crude crag]

30 rrs was cold

[glacial harness]

i was feinding for the 50 phoenix shards from unbound but haven’t been able to find anyone for months so i had to resort to starting water from scratch

i’ve been on unbound 19 for about 2 months btw.

[crude crag]

you don’t know the pvp tech

[floral galleon]

acting like pvp has unlimited rrs

[crude crag]

technically

[spare atlas]

fym technically

[kindred sentinel]

also add memoria rrs to towers

[crude crag]

log on once a week

40 rr per acc

[floral galleon]

hi lol

[carmine patrol]

bump was able to fire floor 1-35 before we found someone

[floral galleon]

took a while

[carmine patrol]

someone DM’d me when we got to 35

[floral galleon]

fire

get it?

[spare atlas]

how much hp did it have

[floral galleon]

its right there

35 was rly easy
but theres other floors under that were harder
just rng

[glacial harness]

guess choy and ace are broken

[carmine patrol]

it’s rng

if we get an overshield boss it’s just gg

or wormhole those were insta losses aswell

[floral galleon]

eh os is easier than wormhole

[carmine patrol]

only cuz aces initial proc of intense burn crit everytime we got one

And his passive bypasses dmg reduction

[spare atlas]

bro fire is so fucked now

[floral galleon]

ye well also cause wormhole ur not proccing choy hella
so ur not building up SHIT

[spare atlas]

benimaru 40% slow + his and escanor dps

[floral galleon]

escanor doesnt help allat

[spare atlas]

i mean dps is dps

[floral galleon]

ur getting a few extra milly
when bosses have a bill its not allat

[spare atlas]

but it’s more the benimaru stall that’s diabolical

plus aokiji memoria theoretically should work on choi

calm 30% extra dmg on that nuk

[floral galleon]

didnt u say scorched was better

[spare atlas]

i thought about it and wanted prolly > cause only benimaru memoria has fire dmg amp

and since benimaru memoria is 1 per person

and you’re gonna want to run it actually on beni for the slow passive

[floral galleon]

hi lol

[spare atlas]

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[floral galleon]

hi lol

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[sick verge]

Do the modifiers always bug out? Never lets me select them then suddenly activates all the ones I had clicked at once

[floral galleon]

ye

[sick verge]

Makes some runs just impossible

That and ainz’s debuff immunity item doesn’t work so it’s ggs

[floral galleon]

leave and join back
sometimes it makes u pick extra sometimes it doesnt
or if u beat the floor it goes back to normal mods

[sick verge]

Wb this? Is it just me experiencing it or

[floral galleon]

i dont use it

[fair ermine]

dubs

ill tell them to add this dw

[floral galleon]

bro star it

[fair ermine]

oops i thought i did mb

[floral galleon]

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[cinder lion]

holy fuck this idea sucks brio

can we get some mods in here and shut this down for bering so bad.

[floral galleon]

why is he lying

[cinder lion]

dont talk me you random.

[floral galleon]

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[spare atlas]

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[floral galleon]

added a tldr

hi lol

[floral galleon]

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pls star guys i need ts

[idle monolith]

Chuds with high lvl roles

Y'all actually talk here?😭

[floral galleon]

not that high chill✌️

[floral galleon]

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[floral galleon]

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pls

[barren plinth]

bump

also change this reward for memoria shard or literally anything else 🥹

[floral galleon]

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[spare atlas]

genuinely the most useless shit in the game

[final shadow]

Those and corruption shards

[floral galleon]

c shards r fine

[barren plinth]

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hi lol

[fair ermine]

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[floral galleon]

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hi lol

[floral galleon]

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[glacial harness]

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bump

[fallen niche]

A better idea is to give people an incentive to help low number tower users

If someone does a new clear on a difficulty, give the people who have already cleared it (and helping that guy) 50/25% of the rewards

It's a win-win

If you give 100% rewards you can "farm" with ur alt accounts

[floral galleon]

that still isn’t good incentive anyway imo

you’d obv rather grind the tower normally

first prio is making the game mode playable imo😭

[fallen niche]

Do you have an alternative to entice people to grind lower tier levels?

[floral galleon]

no and there isn’t a good one

[fallen niche]

So you propose a near full rework of the towers then?

[floral galleon]

no?

[fallen niche]

The problem with your idea is that it makes it so people have no real incentive to help lower levels

[floral galleon]

ye well the gamemodes was sold as “endgame content”
no reason for ppl that are stuck on low levels floors to be there
regardless ur gna be grouping up with others much more easily now
you’ll find ppl at ur own level instead of making ppl higher than u come down

in my eyes it isn’t a problem at all

and if u give players 50% for gng down floors it’s super abusable

[fallen niche]

The numeric value can be tweaked the thought is what I'm interested in

[floral galleon]

ye the thought is what i’m not interested in😭

can’t give them shit

or else it’s deadass mangrovable atp

devs obv aren’t gna implement smth like that
whole point of the suggestion wasn’t to reach too far with a rework
and instead just make multiplayer more bearable

[fallen niche]

The problem with elemental towers for me is that if one of my friend group quits, I have 1 less DPS teammate on wave 42, so I need to find a fourth friend to grind with, and he is at 12.
Your solution only puts a dent into the problem. I don't wanna do towers on 42 difficulty while I'm on 12, that's just annoying. And I get less rewards???

[floral galleon]

it’s better than the alternative which is doing towers at floor 12 solo
and as mentioned it’s meant to help those close tgt
personally idc abt a 30 floor gap but maybe im the only one

i’m not claiming my solution is perfect but urs just makes it mangrovable

[fallen niche]

What does mangrovable mean bro

[quaint igloo]

doing a stage away from keyboard basically

[floral galleon]

M word u can’t say here

[fallen niche]

Ah I understand now

You remember that there is a 30 level req to this right?

[floral galleon]

and?

[fallen niche]

Also of course my solution isn't perfect but there has to be an incentive - like MVP makes it so people wanna help low levels for double rewards.
Reward = ppl wanna help

Anyways we are going in circles, good idea hoping at least it gets them to think about changes to elemental towers

[floral galleon]

son

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[floral galleon]

hi lol

[hollow coral]

The gamemode would get so much more traction if finding a team of people who are basically at the same floor as you wasn't the worst experience oat

[floral galleon]

this helps the issue🥹

[hollow coral]

Onb

Also maybe some memoria shards being added into the reward pool would help but perhaps they just don't wanna do that atm

[floral galleon]

that would require resetting ngl

or maybe once ppl get too far you could pay a certain amount to reset it or sum

ofc limitations so its not abusable

give gold a use
1 million gold per reset
and it’s per tower

i’m js saying shit

🥶

[floral galleon]

and a cd on it

[floral galleon]

b

[glacial harness]

bump

[kindred bramble]

Someone already suggested this didn't they

[floral galleon]

idk

[barren plinth]

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[floral galleon]

@carmine patrol now ur trainee tell them to implement this

@lilac steeple u too ig

[hollow coral]

Aww cora is going lose all his limbs anyday now.

[floral galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1090429735454126170/1436855058926010500/TryingNotToCry.gif

alr bro i’m tired of waiting.

[wet parrot]

I already suggested this and got less stars how is this fair 😭

[floral galleon]

cause mine is better

i went into depth

type🥶

[wet parrot]

True

[floral galleon]

oh i js saw urs

stared it dw
basically the same shit tho

!

[floral galleon]

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[barren plinth]

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[fair ermine]

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[hasty palm]

Feh more like

Meth

[floral galleon]

type

[cobalt tree]

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[floral galleon]

now that i think abt it more acc

it should default to highest scaling but keep the hosts map

so u can still swap maps if u get terrible rng

[cinder lion]

yo bro @floral galleon did u realize that 3 freaking testers talked in here 😳 thats l;iterally crazy man.

[floral galleon]

hi lol

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[fair ermine]

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[floral galleon]

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[spare atlas]

bump

[floral galleon]

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[fresh needle]

i disagree this is horrible.

[glacial harness]

bump

[floral galleon]

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[floral galleon]

pls

[floral galleon]

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[floral galleon]

hi lol

stop dillydallying kamui

[hasty palm]

hi

[floral galleon]

ay bro fuck it
bonus: allow us to bring more than 4 ppl but increase the hp scaling

[oblique spire]

bump

[floral galleon]

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the way u spam b has wabi sabi

[floral galleon]

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[floral galleon]

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[floral galleon]

hi lol

[fierce bane]

this mf spittin

[floral galleon]

50+20+20=100

[floral galleon]

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[spare atlas]

did he actually say that

[floral galleon]

alr so before this i said u could reset a tower for a cost
which was misguided since they loop rewards every 50 which for some reason i didnt know
but i still think u should be able to pay to swap the boss and/or map
since for now its super rng and needs u to switch hosts

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1090429735454126170/1436855058926010500/TryingNotToCry.gif

[floral galleon]

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[bright fractal]

Dont cry feh..

[floral galleon]

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[shut mesa]

I believe its a great suggestion but as you mentioned before the floors are rng. So it will need to be fixed floors for everyone then this change can be integrated

[floral galleon]

rly doesnt

[floral galleon]

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[sick verge]

True asl my curse floor 26 is a 1bil overshield Babidi

[floral galleon]

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[final shadow]

That moment when you wish whitebeard was a universal tower

Even before floor 30, nullify barely does smth already

[floral galleon]

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thank u for 100 🙏

[hollow coral]

This has become too mainstream im downvoting

[floral galleon]

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[lusty matrix]

why ru still bunping they are added this to the spotlight

[floral galleon]

i want more stars

[floral galleon]

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[quaint igloo]

boy I’m downvoting too many bumps

[floral galleon]

hi lol

[floral galleon]

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[floral galleon]

if they wanted to implement both sure

but just that is less accessible

i dont think theyd ever let u skip floors
so i kinda avoided that when making this

anything more than this is a stretch i feel

[floral galleon]

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[floral galleon]

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[floral galleon]

hi lol

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hi

[floral galleon]

that would defeat the whole purpose of the mode

up to devs ig

🤷‍♂️

[floral galleon]

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[sly blaze]

what is the purpose of this mode ?

[floral galleon]

multiplayer team building endgame infinitely scaling mode

that locks u to one element

[sly blaze]

thank you sir.

I still don't see the issue of it scaling tho cuz you will get limited at one point

I only agree with scaling if they don't fix the multiplier finding ppl problem

sneak today right guys 🤣

[floral galleon]

thing is if it didn’t have four player scaling it’d be way too similar to wl
just a lil more restrictions but less unique mechanics

i hope they implement this so towers can acc become its own thing

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[hollow coral]

I feel like forced co-op by itself would be fine but having to find people who are

1. not stupid as hell
2. at a similar floor as you
   Just makes the process way worse

[sly blaze]

I just hate the current system rn it's rlly why it's not played at all

Haha feh let's run water tower

[floral galleon]

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[quaint igloo]

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[fair ermine]

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[glacial harness]

bump

[floral galleon]

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