Buff/Rework Old Units

[covert pier]

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[tiny spade]

The GOAT Gilgamesh. Even with a vanguard familiar he’s still underwhelming. Give him a direct buff to his stats

Ichigo’s strongest form/true state… His true zanpakuto/Shikai, reduced to a mere worthless mythic unit. He deserves a 2nd evo into Horn of Salvation Ichigo

[rough minnow]

hes getting a vanguard evo

[stray star]

mugetsu above hos is so funny

[tiny spade]

Ragna, a one man army and the ultimate dragon slayer. Once meta in AV, now worthless and forgotten. He deserves a 2nd Evo as well into his most powerful form, or a direct buff to stats and passives

[rough minnow]

nah bro u gotta trust the process innit

[stray star]

hell no!

[nimble yoke]

Vfams are essentially reworks without making an entirely new unit/evo, oft because the unit doesn't have a futher form, they're assumably saving it or the community's been nagging for it to happen

Ichigo is obviously getting something soon (probably an evo but unconfirmed), also Broly happened so it didn't just stop with vsjw

[rough minnow]

nah but think about it

[stray star]

no

[rough minnow]

base ichigo --> diverges into transformations e.g. vizard, hollow, hos --> all converge back to mugetsu for a final

[tiny spade]

Yapping under my suggestion and HoS Ichigo > Mugetsu , mugetsu one his weakest forms

[stray star]

son

[nimble yoke]

Isn't Mugetsu stronger than HoS in raw power but HoS outhaxes so it's overall better

[rough minnow]

in fact that would be my ideal vision for vanguard ichigoat

[stray star]

son...

[nimble yoke]

Regardless I think making HoS the mythic instead of his base TYBW design was stupid

[stray star]

i mean probably, i havent read the manga in a while so idk if HoS is stronger than mugetsu in raw power

[tiny spade]

Muken / TYBW Aizen, once a meta secret, now a worthless and forgotten unit. Crazy how Rukia a vanguard but this man is worthless. He deserves a EXPONENTIAL DIRECT BUFF to his stats and passives

[stray star]

did feel a bit like they had to capitalize on TYBW currently airing at the time

[stray star]

have you not seen 1.2m damage aizen

[rough minnow]

i mean technically mugetsu should be stronger by default, he could even use mugetsu a second time i dont think there's anything in the lore stopping him from using mugetsu for a second time

[stray star]

memorias go crazy

[rough minnow]

u did not see pre-patch reimu and the other bp girl

holy what was it 4-5m dps?

[stray star]

🔥

[rough minnow]

i cant remember but it was smn insane

[stray star]

nuke the whole game

[tiny spade]

Rimuru, one of the strongest anime characters created, did so poorly… its like certain units AV devs added, yall didnt even watch the anime’s or did research on the unit. Rimuru was so poorly designed since the day yall released him. He deserves a 2nd evo for sure

[nimble yoke]

4 mill dps iirc

[tiny spade]

Cid Kagenou aka Cid. One of the goats. Another overpowered anime character y’all designed so horribly and did wrong. Nobody asked for a switch between John smith and Shadow. He needs a rework and exponential buff

Alr im done with my suggestion on what anime characters/units in game that deserved to be buffed directly, passive wise, a total rework or deserving of a 2nd evo. If y’all would like to add on to my suggestion or what more units deserve direct buffs feel free to add them

[tiny spade]

Hell no. Horn of salvation + true bankai ichigo was enough to make Yhwach at his absolutely peak strongest, quiver in fear as he saw the future, and destroyed Ichigo’s bankai before he could ever even use it. Yhwach would laugh at the mere weakness and sight of Mugetsu

Mugetsu is one of his weaker forms , it looks badahh tho

[tiny spade]

Naw lowkey i just came back to the game since Dio update and ion even play roblox that much regardless but i’ma get familiar with memorias sooner or later

[nimble yoke]

Maybe because there was like. years of passage between him using Mugetsu and fighting Yhwach

Including his training with squad 0

[tiny spade]

Or maybe mugetsu is just weaker then HOS ichigo

[shy idol]

rimuru gilgamesh and ragna were all limited

[quick sun]

worst suggestion EVER❓

[tiny spade]

Because it sure did seem like they was struggling against Yhwach to me, if mugestu was stronger why didn’t he use it? How would Mugetsu be stronger than fully realized Ichigo , tribrid power of all 3 races, and at his absolute peak strength

[tiny spade]

Definitely not, how is a greenie able to type here

[quick sun]

mugetsu has more aura

[tiny spade]

Still need buffs

[quick sun]

no they dont

[tiny spade]

I dont know what limited has to do with anything

[shy idol]

they aint doing 2nd evo to those limited units

[tiny spade]

Its always goofies like u

[tiny spade]

So limited = trash ?

[shy idol]

you cant get them anymore other than trading?

[shy idol]

it appears so yeah

[tiny spade]

So because people can’t get them anymore that means they should be trash

[quick sun]

limited = wasted content on stuff only a few people can access

[tiny spade]

Alright then nerf Escanor Broly and any unobtainable vanguard

[shy idol]

[tiny spade]

I think y’all hating on this suggestion because y’all dont have rimuru or gilga

[nimble yoke]

Broly isn't even limited son

[quick sun]

broly isnt even limited

[tiny spade]

Well exclude Broly

[nimble yoke]

I've got every unit here still ass

[shy idol]

escanor isnt even meta anymore

[tiny spade]

No rimuru

[nimble yoke]

I have multiple man he wasn't exactly hard to get

[tiny spade]

Crazy yall on my case calling my suggestion trash for buffing old units

[shy idol]

you dont want to just buff them. You want 2nd evo

[tiny spade]

Literally no downside to buffing them at all

[tiny spade]

Heres someone who cant read i didnt suggest a 2nd evo for every unit

[nimble yoke]

Recycling old units consistently is just lazy I want new shit

[shy idol]

You suggested 2nd evo to limited units

[tiny spade]

So that makes my suggestion bad for a 2nd evo on units YOU dont have

Whats the downside to 2nd evo to limited units i wanna know?

[shy idol]

I do have them, I play since release and idk why you say that that doesnt help your point

[quick sun]

no lol its because theyre not wasting time on content most people cant access

[tiny spade]

How is it detrimental

[tiny spade]

You not a dev how would YOU know

[shy idol]

common sense for instance

[quick sun]

its literally common sense

[tiny spade]

Thats the point of suggestions, devs gon listen to the community

[shy idol]

[quick sun]

they aren’t

[nimble yoke]

Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you

[tiny spade]

Just because a unit unlimited = no buffs no 2nd evo

[shy idol]

When they see suggestions like this Im not surprised they rarely look here

[quick sun]

That’s actually what that means

[tiny spade]

Thats ironic

[tiny spade]

Reason why this game going to sh*t because of bird brain individuals like u

[nimble yoke]

Lead Tester I'm sure knows the devs infinitely more than you do

[tiny spade]

Yo bro idgaf

[shy idol]

afro alt???

[quick sun]

I think you’re just an idiot

[tiny spade]

Y’all crying about a suggestion that won’t hurt u in the slightest

[quick sun]

You didn’t even know Ichigo was getting a double evo already 😭😭

[shy idol]

Except it will and its ass suggestion

[stray star]

are we not allowed to hate a suggestion

this dumbass argument bruh

[tiny spade]

😂😂never would i thought i’d see the day where a bunch of goofies gang up to disagree against a suggestion to buff old units of known and strongly-respected anime characters

[nimble yoke]

Yo I'm gonna make a suggestion that everyone should get infinite rerolls, won't hurt anyone so you shouldn't hate it right

[quick sun]

u deadass just said strongly respected anime characters bro

[tiny spade]

Its a anime td game and now im being shamed for wanting a Rimuru or Cid buff because i think the deserve better thats crazy

[shy idol]

"buff" you gave example of 3 limited units and said to give 2nd evo to 2 of them

[tiny spade]

Bunch of bird brained goofies in this community😂

Mane dw imma close ts and make remake this suggestion later , hopefully it the right crowd sees it and not a bunch of sheep minded hating goofies

[shy idol]

that will get you just blacklisted

and maybe thats what you need

[quick sun]

theres no right crowd to see this bro

[tiny spade]

There is

[nimble yoke]

Afro finger bearers been coming out the woodworks lately

[quick sun]

they’d be as dumb as you

like i said you didnt even know ichigo was getting an evo already

[tiny spade]

I did nobody wants a mugetsu vanguard

When these forms are stronger and look better

My suggestion was doing good at first and then here came bird brained sheeps

[quick sun]

mugetsu is more hype and aura

[quick sun]

u have 2 stars

[tiny spade]

I bet you if devs did listen to my suggestion you’d 100% agree with it, because you’re a follower and a sheep

[quick sun]

well they literally wont

[tiny spade]

3* illiteracy at an all time high

I knew you were a bird brain 😂

[quick sun]

you dont count bud

[rose swift]

[tiny spade]

Cant give any reason on how my suggestion is bad at all

[quick sun]

i did u just ignored it

[tiny spade]

Supposedly its a crime to suggest buffing old units in AV huh

[quick sun]

its called a vf

[tiny spade]

Supposedly only newly released units should be cared about regardless of what anime character it is

[shy idol]

[tiny spade]

Actual clowns in this thread

[rose swift]

Fight

[quick sun]

🪞

[stray star]

have you heard of mma

[tiny spade]

Supposedly my suggestion of making certain anime characters/units in this game actually good and live up to the expectations they have is a crime, everyone on my case but can’t give a real good explanation on why these units i named shouldn’t be buffed🤣

Just a bunch of goofies yappin , my thread hit the wrong side of this brain dead community

[shy idol]

we gave you plenty of reasons why limited units shouldnt and wont get second evo

[tiny spade]

I aint trippin about it though

[quick sun]

you are just ignoring them

[tiny spade]

Its goofies like y’all in every anime td game crazy low iq ppl just attracted to these type of games

[stray star]

no its because you're ignoring already existing solutions because you find them lame

[tiny spade]

Because they’re not good enough reasons

[stray star]

you can already buff older units with the use of memorias and familiars

[tiny spade]

And they’ll still be trash no?

[stray star]

but you apparently despise them so much you want direct buffs

[quick sun]

they arent

[stray star]

you deadass just said you havent seen the memoria system that much and youre already judging them to be ass

[nimble yoke]

I'm sure, as opposed to your high brow self that can't even read the rules

[rapid elm]

this post is so low iq ngl

[shy idol]

they literally make units like aizen good again

[tiny spade]

Someone earlier literally said even with vanguard familiar and memoria, gilgamesh is still trash that’s all the reason i need

[quick sun]

so ur taking someones word over actually seeing it

[shy idol]

and you didnt test it? Just by assumptions?

[rapid elm]

that’s only because he was limited and they didn’t want limited units ruling comp cause ppl can’t compete
they went back on that since removing comp so limited vfs will be as good as normal vfs

• memorias make ppl like gilga good anyway

[stray star]

when was that even mentioned

[tiny spade]

If they make older units good again, wouldn’t they make newer units even better?

[stray star]

im looking back and i dont see mention of gilgamesh still being ass with his vfamiliar and memoria

[rapid elm]

• u mentioned the only double evo is sung jin woo when broly exists and mugetsu is confirmed on 11.5

[quick sun]

they never said will be as good

[rapid elm]

they did

[quick sun]

they said they can be more lax with it now that comp doesnt exist

[rapid elm]

this is js wrong i get they said it but it isn’t true

[stray star]

and youre just taking that as fact immediately

havent seen any screenshots of his stats after those buffs whatsoever

[rapid elm]

exactly
to make ppl happy i promise limited vfs will be good 🥶

[stray star]

so a buff for gilgamesh's vfamiliar? 🔥

[tiny spade]

I dont see anyone calling Dio buns🤣 but alr im just now getting back into AV imma try it for myself

But nobody gonna call a unit buns unless they rlly is buns

[rapid elm]

dio is alr rn
most units from this upd r better
and from the previous ainz is obv better

[stray star]

i wouldnt say that

[rapid elm]

while uma is better but niche

[stray star]

ive seen a few people call rukia buns

[rapid elm]

this just isn’t true ppl called broly buns on release just cause they couldn’t read

[rapid elm]

she’s great but she also isn’t all that
better to be used for the assist passive than acc investing in her

[tiny spade]

But even if gilgamesh isnt buns like that guy said, these 3 units still need a rework their design is horrible

[forest sphinx]

if only she got a good auto upgrade 😭

[shy idol]

great is not buns tho

[rapid elm]

doesn’t take hella effort to upg her but ye ig

[rapid elm]

cid was amazing and had his niche in inf for so long
but inf is gone so…

[forest sphinx]

30+ waves of upgrading her passive is the most effort a unit takes in this game tbh

[rapid elm]

ragna sure and rimuru sure

[rapid elm]

it’s clicking 4 times at the start of each wave it isn’t that hard gng

[shy idol]

ragna with memoria is insane rn he doesnt need anything

[rapid elm]

ye ragnas kit is well made
but rimuru is just butt
not only is she ass but her passives don’t feel like her in anime kit at all

[forest sphinx]

but you can't deny that it is annoying and unnecessary + it still is the unit that you need to pay attention for 30+ waves for no reason

[rose swift]

hes a girl?

[rapid elm]

nah 2m dps is worth it

[rapid elm]

idk idc

[shy idol]

Rimuru being especially limited unit Im pretty sure they are not changing him

[rapid elm]

anim lock
btw

[stray star]

how long is that

[rapid elm]

i hope they make a seperate unit for him tbh

[warm adder]

wont happen

[tiny spade]

Alot of these memorias are unit exclusive , where i get the ones that make Gil and Ragna good

[rapid elm]

atc 2 is better i’m 99% sure
it’s like .5 seconds
while atc 3 has a long ass 2 sec anim

[tiny spade]

Fam wthh

[shy idol]

and cid is from like 13 updates ago, he's still insane in inf gamemodes but they not changing him

[rapid elm]

yes not acc hitting those numbers cause of anim lock

[forest sphinx]

well you can only access that in inf after 30-40 waves + the newer units almost have that dps or more, so i don't see a reason to keep uma so annoying to use

[tiny spade]

^^

[rapid elm]

the newer units are not hitting 2m

[rapid elm]

no most mems aren’t unit exclusive

just slap the rukia one on every unit and their good

[tiny spade]

I been screaming for a Cid and Rimuru unit remake when they had came out especially Rimuru 🤣 alot of people agreed on the suggestion ig devs ain’t pay it no mind

[rapid elm]

ye dw i did too

[shy idol]

they are unit exclusive only for units from this update, but they still have nonexclusive passives and well, the stats

[forest sphinx]

ok, i thought erza was close to that but i was mistaken sry for that, but i still don't find a good reason for umas being annoyying to use when she is limited only to inf basically

[tiny spade]

Alr bet grinding for rukia memoria rn

[tiny spade]

Oh alr bet

[rapid elm]

tourney is her main use and she’s carries
just play the game

[tiny spade]

Preciate, def gonna need this

[forest sphinx]

well the game has literally an auto play, ask for a good auto upg on uma is something pretty reasonable

[tiny spade]

Gilgamesh, Rimuru, Cid , Ragna all top 10 my fav characters fr gotta get them right

[quick sun]

shes alr off meta so

besides for tournies

[shy idol]

can we stop with auto upg all stats on uma

[forest sphinx]

even so, i don't see why making her so annoying to use, it's basically a chore using her

[forest sphinx]

why?

[shy idol]

thats her design Same with benimaru having brooms as selling instead of ability tho memoria auto uses them yet people still dont understand

[shy idol]

There've been 20+ suggestions for her to change it and its just not happening

[rapid elm]

ye idk

it’s fine but i can also see reason not too

[crimson tendon]

I like how half the characters listed here as examples for buffs are unobtainable

[shy idol]

hello mr old tester

[rose swift]

Don’t worry they’ll do a pokemon upd soon

[rapid elm]

ye they still cool tho

[crimson tendon]

Also this is hella misleading because ragna’s animation cap is like 3 seconds 😭

[forest sphinx]

honestly idgf that's her design, when the game has auto play+auto upd+auto use skills, there's no reason to let her be that way, specially when ik this is not something that would take much time from the devs part, this is something that can be done in like 5-10 minutes

[slow falcon]

Seilo responded to one of them, its not a no, its just not a priority when it affects a small amount of players

[rapid elm]

just keep it on atc 2

[sharp wyvern]

Aizen is actually good again tho

[slow falcon]

Only like 2M dps during his wall
So mid

[rapid elm]

meh not rly

[crimson tendon]

Even that’s still like 2.something iirc

[rapid elm]

u need to keep them at max aura which is such a tiny spot

[forest sphinx]

didn't know that, ty for sharing the information

[shy idol]

ye found it, thought they just ignoring them

[rapid elm]

WHERE did u get this

[slow falcon]

Using buffers

[rapid elm]

bruh

[shy idol]

damn

[slow falcon]

2 buffers and you can more than double his dps

[crimson tendon]

And Broly especially I imagine

[rapid elm]

this guy

[rose swift]

oh broly is easy

[slow falcon]

Ts is deadass with 2 buffers

[crimson tendon]

Oh that’s not Broly

[rapid elm]

Almost any unit can get 2m dps with 2 buffers

[forest sphinx]

what memoria did you use?

[crimson tendon]

?????

[slow falcon]

Ice queen rest evo lvl 60 with divinity

[shy idol]

tho the suggestion seil responded to isnt auto upg stats but this

The main issue with the uma unit i have is the fact that you need to open her active that cover the entire screen to upgrade them. A simple way imo for combat this is just to make a small version of the active ui like the rotundra ui so we can continue to upgrade the uma while doing other stuff.

[rapid elm]

i’m exaggerating but 2m is nothing special
especially when u consider aizens is so inconsistent

[slow falcon]

Oh was it not
I assume any Uma suggestion is just a inf/tournament mode auto upgrade

[sharp wyvern]

for limited units like rimuru/gilgamesh the best option would be to introduce 2nd versions like Broly

caster gilg
idk much about rimuru but im sure he has 500 versions

[sharp wyvern]

what the fuck

[crimson tendon]

I mean, kinda, but it’s not so inconsistent as to completely discredit it

[forest sphinx]

when the unit is basically worthless i think they could use a rerun(and being perm obtainable) + buffs/new evos

[slow falcon]

2nd version while not touching the old one lowk a better option

[sharp wyvern]

Gilgamesh 100% needs some sort of buff OR new version

he was the #1 choice over ssj4 and they made him terrible, which was acceptable only because they were actually trying to balance things

now they aren’t

[rose swift]

I saw a picture with gilg

[rapid elm]

i wanted to suggest this but make it a toggle like small active ui mode
and just makes most big uis tiny

[rapid elm]

ye that’s what i’m saying

[forest sphinx]

i agree with you, just saying they can consider a rerun for the limtied unit if the said unit is worthless in trade(like gilga and rimuru) but just making asecond version is good too

[sharp wyvern]

caster gilg with a transformation to archer or smthn

[rose swift]

Good luck even getting a fate update

[sharp wyvern]

yeah that’s fair

[rapid elm]

strange fake gilg instead of stay night
ik it’s the same gilga technically but who cares

[sharp wyvern]

Gilgamesh is the only one that’ll probably get stuff since he actually gives ccu and by their admission that’s all they really care about

[forest sphinx]

saber/saber alter could use some buffs be it vfamiliar or memoria

[sharp wyvern]

strange fake gilg isn’t too different from stay night, they’re both archer class

caster gilg would be cooler

also if they wanted to do a strange fake servant it should be Alcides Hippolyta or Fake Rider (I won’t spoil its name)

[rapid elm]

i js want gilga vs enkidu

[sharp wyvern]

memoria probably

[sharp wyvern]

they’re friends tho 😭 also ngl they don’t fight/work together much on screen

what would be more fitting would be Fujimaru + Gilg or Hakuno + Gilg

[slow falcon]

the memoria would need some insane ass passives to single handedly bring a old unit back to meta more than a regular memoria already does

[rapid elm]

ye but it’s aura

and they still fight🥶

[sharp wyvern]

are they not doing memorias for old units?

[rapid elm]

ye that’s why vfs are better to bring old units back

[sharp wyvern]

I thought that was the whole point since they cancelled VFs

[rapid elm]

they didn’t cancel vfs

[slow falcon]

i didnt say that
but actually bringing them back to meta is alot harder via memoria
also i dont think anyone said vfs are canceled

[sharp wyvern]

we haven’t gotten one for months

[rapid elm]

cause they were meant to fill voids when updates took long
updates haven’t taken long

[rose swift]

Next one will be salter dont worry

[slow falcon]

like the whole way vfs bring a unit back to meta is a large dmg buff that only works on that unit
if a memoria gives alot of dmg it gives all units alot of dmg

[rapid elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1399444239015743519/1464645456821882930/attachment.gif

[sharp wyvern]

I want there to be more vfs ngl

They were fine

[rapid elm]

no bro passives obv👀
that definitely helps a lot

not being sarcastic at all

[slow falcon]

im trying to think of what could even help salter
her ass is already in anim lock hell

[forest sphinx]

yeah, but hopefully 1.0 units get less attention, kinda tired of 1.0 units being the focus for buffs most of the time

[rose swift]

Give her a memoria too

[sharp wyvern]

damage increase could get removed this is old

actually they could do that for vfs

No more dmg increase, or a very low one, but passives instead

[rapid elm]

remove anim lock

it isn’t even considered when making a unit and confuses ppl

[slow falcon]

hm ig
8 units on a team seems a lil much tho

[shy idol]

just get hired at this point bro

[rapid elm]

not rly 8 since it forces u to bring sokoro and she doesn’t do shit with anim lock rn

[forest sphinx]

fr

[rapid elm]

she’s decent ig

[sharp wyvern]

Sakura doesn’t do a lot since she’s upg 0, she basically just buffs salter

I think, I made it a month ago lowk and I forgot what Sakura does for others

[rapid elm]

u can’t upg her?

[slow falcon]

makes other units use her spa
the 4 spa yhwach meta type shit

[slow falcon]

thats what the vf concept says

[sharp wyvern]

if you do then salter’s animation locks are put in place again

[rapid elm]

ye js reread

[rapid elm]

with the memoria he’s so back

[slow falcon]

outside of the 1 tournament where she was buffed with the mapwide dmg bug i dont think anyone has ever upgraded her tho

[sharp wyvern]

well animation locks kinda make that useless

[forest sphinx]

vfamiliar/memoria for yhwach when? just for the funnies

[sharp wyvern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1238231727454027937/1467565211237093529/caption.gif

[rapid elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1431301214879875165/1465726755607416893/togif.gif

[slow falcon]

wow hes back

[forest sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/reze-reze-csm-reze-chainsaw-man-reze-cinema-chainsaw-man-cinema-gif-4833364033828482150

[sharp wyvern]

I want to make a vf or memoria for saber soon

[sharp wyvern]

idk which one though

[forest sphinx]

my goat

[rapid elm]

blud isn’t doing shit💀

[forest sphinx]

i think saber could just use another evo, plenty of material to make that for her

[somber dome]

How many new units can even take advantage of this post animation caps

[sharp wyvern]

they’re not gonna do a vanguard saber, they don’t like fate

kazi did and he got kicked off the team

[rapid elm]

like none

[rose swift]

We thought it was gonna be her till they said ichigo and 11.5

[somber dome]

Mhm

[rapid elm]

ppl like fate that doesn’t matter

[sharp wyvern]

I thought it’d be Naruto since he didn’t get a vf

[somber dome]

W guts🥶

[forest sphinx]

double evo is not locked to being a vanguard, they could make her evo into a secret

[rapid elm]

who is we

[shy idol]

thats wild

[rapid elm]

for now it is🥶

[sharp wyvern]

they said double evos will only be vanguards

also there’s been so many vanguard suggestions for saber alr

[rose swift]

they not doing that

[forest sphinx]

is it? i remember a dev saying it wasn't

fair ig

[sharp wyvern]

there’s been a lord logres (goat) and goddess rhongomynaid (goat) evo sugg alr by other people

I started on a goddess rhongomynaid one but idk if I’ll finish it, also I want to introduce a new idea that could be faster implementation wise

[rapid elm]

js saying cause we haven’t gotten a double evo secret

[forest sphinx]

logres would be so fire as a vanguard, but that one is the most unrealistic sadly

[forest sphinx]

fair

[sharp wyvern]

idk I’ll probably make a vf and have fun with it

[rose swift]

atp where is the akaza vanguard

[ocean birch]

they are waiting...

[rose swift]

for what

[shy idol]

his backstory was so good

[ocean birch]

the vf

[rose swift]

Yhwach aint getting shit hopefully

[ocean birch]

we must push the agenda

[rose swift]

the goats

[dense gull]

a bunch of random and goku

[rose swift]

Sukuna is too far below

[tiny spade]

Terribly made unit😞

[lean mesa]

what about naruto?

[tiny spade]

No memoria

[rose swift]

look on the bright side

[tiny spade]

If thats gilgamesh with VF and a memoria then that is underwhelming

Why dont they just buff his stats

[rose swift]

yea it is

[tiny spade]

Hollow knight is still a absolute unit tho he underrated imo

But still a random shouldnt be better than Gilga especially when gilga has a VF

[tiny spade]

And thats not even counting his summons

[warm nest]

bro doesnt know

[warm nest]

broly shakes his head and laughs

[warm nest]

broly straight up kills you

[warm nest]

HUH HOW TELL MY AND MY SOUL IS YOURS

[delicate apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/811501912191926293/1382920149069205504/togif.gif

[sharp wyvern]

ccc gilg and hakuno vanguard when 😔

[delicate apex]

I doubt it would be ccc prolly sf gil

[sharp wyvern]

isn’t sf gil not that much different from stay night

I only know pieces about the later parts of sf icl

[delicate apex]

No gil is that much different than the other it's just a matter of how serious he gets

[sharp wyvern]

hm

caster gilg >

[delicate apex]

Caster gilgamesh is weaker in power but he's alot smarter

[sharp wyvern]

no I know he gave a lot of his treasures to his people rather than hoarding them like archer

he also doesn’t have ea

[delicate apex]

Oh?

Oh yea he summoned his Archer variant to use it against tiamat or smth

I lowk forgot alot of Babylon rewatching it rn tho

[sharp wyvern]

yes

the most thing I got spoiled on for fsf is what this friendly guy is

[delicate apex]

Also this isn't true

[delicate apex]

|| Isn't that the embodiment of death or smth ||

[sharp wyvern]

||that’s grand assassin, the black blob is the embodiment of pestilence & the rider of pestilence from the Bible, which is why he’s fake rider||

[sharp wyvern]

big fsf spoilers ^

[delicate apex]

Ohh

I got gils entire story in fsf spoiled to me

In fsf

[delicate apex]

Didn't valk also say there can be secret evos just no plans for them atm

[sharp wyvern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rapid elm]

ye the whole msg was smth like
double evos take hella time so investing all that into a secret isnt worth
but doesnt 100% mean their off the table