element tower (changes it needs)

[hollow nimbus]

• reset every 2 .0's 10.0-12.0, 12.0-14.0, etc (reason its a problem is that if someone is that if someone doesnt have a permenant squad it'll be extremely hard to climb up to big floors)
• make it scale, there should be 1-4 player scaling, reason why is makes it easier for someone to climb tower without feeling the need of a squad, forcing coop is never smart
• units below legendaries should be allowed, considering that regen is not removed yet from elements that dont have anything to counter regen.
  -fix matchmaking
• team loadouts for the server seems more then nescesarry now 😭 so add it idk how much more i have to preach for it.

[glossy sage]

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[hollow nimbus]

bump

[hallow tide]

i love when im late to towers and i have to find someone to help me with nature floor 12

it makes me wanna play the game and definitely not quit

[hollow nimbus]

thatss the best bro

catching up to floor 30 unbound solo is so fun

[hollow nimbus]

bump

bujmp

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[fickle sable]

I haven’t played any of the towers due to the fact I’m away from home how cooked am I

[polar cloud]

ye but no reset tbh

it’s inf
and will become easier over time with new units

[hollow nimbus]

reset is needed bruh 😭

finding teams are gonna be impossible for new players and the rewards probably reset after 100 floors

[mint vapor]

no

[hoary root]

I don’t think this is a great idea ngl, resets atleast

the new rewards would be nice

but god would that be awful to grind it all again

[hollow nimbus]

we dont know how it works yet thats the thing

if after floor 100 does it reset or do the rewards get better

having resets is practically needed if they want new players to play the gamemode

[hoary root]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hoary root]

it’s not meant for new players

[hollow nimbus]

not as in new players as in people who are trying the gamemode freshly but cant find a team

ion think resets are a bad idea

considering you have 4 updates to climb as much as yo ucan

and you will be softcapped at one point js waiting for the new update and if that update doesnt deliver enough on the units side youre js capped at said floor

so if it resets you get to climb again and get all them rewards instead of having to wait for new units

[golden ridge]

worst suggestion of all time

[hollow nimbus]

lmk why

[hallow tide]

It’s either they make it available to play by yourself or they don’t and make it reset, imagine being a player who started late because you’re busy and now you’re never gonna find a team because everyone already passed the floor you’re on

You can’t just have the only endgame content be forced coop

[fickle sable]

That’s lowkey me

It’s gonna be rough finding a team in a week from now

[hollow nimbus]

its already rough now

[hallow tide]

valks decisions saving av as always

[green agate]

Whats even the current highest floors by element? Going by their announcement i am assuming theres going to be a big powercreep soon, but solo is still not a pleasant experience

[hallow tide]

93 curse is the highest someone said they got

[green agate]

I see

[hollow nimbus]

most the floors are so dispersed 😭

what are the chances you get 4 ppl who are on the exact floor

[green agate]

Solo curse is what like 20 floors or so? The fact you need to have a team of 3 more players just to get 70 more floors or so ... idk man

[fickle sable]

That has to be cap

[hollow nimbus]

not sure what solo curse is but its still rlly high

[hollow nimbus]

no ainz is js that busted

[golden ridge]

resetting every 2 updates is so stupid you quite literally dont have enough time to beat all the floors

[fickle sable]

But still like it gets to a point

[golden ridge]

nobody is at 93 btw

[green agate]

Ya i was going by xopts run for 19th floor.. i was assuming it would be pretty hard to make a whole lot of progress after that.

What abt unknown?

[fickle sable]

How is he gonna kill mobs with prob 1b+ hp

[hollow nimbus]

unknown is rlly low

[golden ridge]

the mobs dont have alot of hp

[hollow nimbus]

LOLLL

[fickle sable]

The bosses are insane tho

[hollow nimbus]

no reading comprehension

[golden ridge]

you know what im tryna say

[hollow nimbus]

no i dont bro

[golden ridge]

not really the bosses arent hard its just very time consuming

[hollow nimbus]

youre telling me 4 months isnt enough time to beat 100 floors 😭 💔

[golden ridge]

just never suggest again bro the only good point is make it scale with 1-4 players and matchmaking

[hollow nimbus]

lol sybau bro

[golden ridge]

100 floors for every element?

[hollow nimbus]

dont wanna waste my time arguing with someone who cant read

[fickle sable]

Matchmaking is needed for this

[golden ridge]

"units below legendaries should be allowed, considering that regen is not removed yet from elements that dont have anything to counter regen." this literally removes the entire point of elemental towers

[fickle sable]

Mission impossible

[green agate]

1.1k floors with like 10 mins each

[hollow nimbus]

?

so elements with no bleed cant go further ?

[golden ridge]

just not possible considering you have to find people every time

[hollow nimbus]

you dont ever need to beat them all lol

[fickle sable]

I think they should just remove regen from the towers as a whole

[hollow nimbus]

yea

[fickle sable]

And some elements are impossible to do it with

[hollow nimbus]

if the guy could read i said "considering that regen is not removed yet from elements that dont have anything to counter regen"

[golden ridge]

do you read what the devs say

[golden ridge]

"these new units will be geared towards helping you climb"

[hollow nimbus]

ok?

[golden ridge]

so why are you making the 3rd point

[fickle sable]

So basically “we are going to ramp up our powercreeping to help ppl do elemental towers”

[mint vapor]

hi lol who wants me

[fickle sable]

The wall on your right

[golden ridge]

nothing new theres power creep every update

[fickle sable]

Yea but they are gonna focus more on it now

[golden ridge]

dont think they were focusing on it when they made ainz

[hollow nimbus]

cause as of right now theres no bleed units for some of the elements

[golden ridge]

ainz can already reach floor 100

[hollow nimbus]

idc if they add it in the future which ik they will but for now some floors are hardcapped

[golden ridge]

so dont do the floors that arent possible and play the floors that are

[green agate]

They might give units with extra passives for elemental towers, like pvp.

[golden ridge]

dude really expects to clear elemental towers in 1 update its meant to be played over multiple updates

[fickle sable]

True

[hollow nimbus]

lol bro i cba to argue w someone this dense 😭

[fickle sable]

It’s a long term thing

So maybe some fire unit in the future will have bleed

Or some regen stopper

[green agate]

Or some op unit which bypasses elemental restrictions

[golden ridge]

🪞

[fickle sable]

I wanna see that happen

[golden ridge]

imma reach it soon

[fickle sable]

Technically wouldn’t unknown be able to do that if they wanted to

[golden ridge]

the bosses dont scale up much as the early stages

[fickle sable]

Which one are u on

[golden ridge]

curse 65

[fickle sable]

Dang

[green agate]

How much boss hp

[golden ridge]

1.4b

[fickle sable]

So curse and unbound are the only ones remotely possible

[green agate]

I see

[hollow nimbus]

passion isnt bad

[golden ridge]

dont think unbound is possible for floor 100

[hollow nimbus]

idk if spark has the units needed either

[golden ridge]

but you can still get pretty high compared to other floors

[hollow nimbus]

ainz js too strong

[fickle sable]

Is luffy worth rolling on cuz I was originally planning on just waiting for the next upd to roll

[hollow nimbus]

no lol js save

[thin owl]

it's kinda weird cause sasuke is impossible to manage with 4 people, his stream attaches to ur friends towers aswell fucks everything up

[hollow nimbus]

unless you wanna climb water (you wont make it far)

[hollow nimbus]

yeah i asked valk abt this when he was releeased and he said its intended

[golden ridge]

insanely broken for towers the summons hard carry and when the boss gets out of range you just world item to tp all the ainz

[fickle sable]

My monarch Goku solos trust

[golden ridge]

not really hes pretty mid but if you have spare rrs go for it

[hollow nimbus]

hes js the best unit in game by far

[fickle sable]

Forgot about that world item

Do yall use other curse units

Or it’s just 4 ainz hard carry’s

[golden ridge]

yeah

ghost girl for slow and sukuna for 30% buff

and then you just use other units for passion spells, acid rain repulse stun

[fickle sable]

So the hard part for curse is finding a team

[golden ridge]

pretty much

[fickle sable]

Matter of fact for the whole thing

[fickle sable]

No farms?

[golden ridge]

nah you use farms

ideal setup would be
ainz 1: summon
ainz 2: acid rain repulse
ainz 3: acid rain stun
ainz 4: passion acid rain

[fickle sable]

Only one summoner?

[golden ridge]

global limit

[fickle sable]

Oh it’s cuz global cap

What does acid rain do

[golden ridge]

20% of ainz damage per second

and it last for 30 seconds

[fickle sable]

And that stacks with despair

[golden ridge]

yeah

[hollow nimbus]

bump

[ripe forge]

elemental towers isnt a "we released this so yall can beat it now" thing, its something thats supposed to last a few updates, its a "late game feature"

overtime elemental towers will get easier due to power creep and units gradually getting stronger over time\

[hallow tide]

unless you wait 2 years youre always getting forced into coop

[brave flax]

Why reset

[desert shadow]

unless sum insane power creep happens some of these elements wont be able to be done for a year

unless water has insane units this update and presumably the vanguard of the winter update is water, then itll literally take maybe a year to play catch up

[brave flax]

Vanguard King Von unit with every element will solve everything

[peak adder]

do NOT reset it

this would just make it another worldlines

[tribal grove]

-hell no
-
-only 1 epic and 1 legendary apply bleed and their elements already have units that can deal with it
-about that
-no

[hollow nimbus]

sybau bro

[brave flax]

it's not that ur late to the tower, but the fact that almost no one is doing nature floor

[hallow tide]

its an example of how random whatever floor youre stuck on is

[brave flax]

wdym

the boss rng?

[hallow tide]

just chose any floor and element

[brave flax]

i dont really understand what ur trying to say

my experience with elemental tower has been pretty positive tbh albeit i've only been doing curse tower

[hallow tide]

im saying i didnt put any thought into the element or floor i used for the example

[brave flax]

oh, well it is end game content so you should be expected to have to strategise

this is one of those game-modes you can't just mindlessly progress

noo no scaling 🥹

[hallow tide]

i wanna think by myself and not rely on other people to help me beat the only endgame content

[brave flax]

ur relying on others as much as you rely on yourself to beat it

you think just as much if not more in a team

if you remove the incentive to run it coop it's just gonna be wl 2.0

[hallow tide]

there is no way you genuinely enjoy having to either go 1-100 with a full team and not run if one of the 4 people arent on, or sitting in elemental tower lfg for 30 mins to find people who wanna do 5 stages with you

[brave flax]

that's where fortunately i have the luxury have an active team for running the curse tower

[hollow nimbus]

yeah which most ppl dont bro

[brave flax]

🥹 but ye not everyone has that privilege

[hollow nimbus]

youre being selfish if you think like that 😭 and want it to stay like that

[hallow tide]

this is like elon musk giving his take on taxes

[hollow nimbus]

forcing coop is never good, and the fact that the towers have no scaling is insane

[hallow tide]

this does not affect u

[brave flax]

it's not insane, majority of inf wl runs require multiple people but you don't see people complaining abt this

[hallow tide]

because inf doesnt take 50 hours LOL

[hollow nimbus]

😭 do you play the game bro

[desert shadow]

i think he means the legendary and epic can be used across all emeneys

[hollow nimbus]

would be a big buff too blast and cosmic

[brave flax]

playing as we speak

[desert shadow]

dude omg im in that ss

[hollow nimbus]

so why is it hard to understand that this content can go upto multitudes of hours

[desert shadow]

thats so cool dude wow..

[brave flax]

free shoutout

[hollow nimbus]

and that if you lose 1 member from your team you have to spend hours finding another?

[desert shadow]

elemental towers are fun dont change them

[hollow nimbus]

i js want scaling

[hallow tide]

stop making us play with 4 ppl thats all

[desert shadow]

ok well we have a server for tower so it doesnt really matter to us

[hollow nimbus]

"us"

[desert shadow]

i want to gatekeep ion care abt everyone else

this is free eats

[hollow nimbus]

thats stupid then

[desert shadow]

yeah like me and 10 other peoole have a server just for doing towers

[brave flax]

invite me fr fr

[desert shadow]

its not like going past 50 is worth it anyways

just get to 50 and boom ez

[brave flax]

why

is 60 not possible?

[desert shadow]

cuz the rewards reset

[brave flax]

wha

so it's like 30 rrs at floor 60?

[desert shadow]

i think its 20

[brave flax]

💀

[desert shadow]

however many rrs it is at the first 10

[brave flax]

aw man

[desert shadow]

im not sure its actually infinite so

[brave flax]

thought it would just continue to be 100 for every 10 floors after that

im on 54 for curse tower

they should just put a hard stop at 100 then make rewards scale appropriately

[hollow nimbus]

bump

bump

[desert shadow]

DUMP 🤣🤣🤣

[hollow nimbus]

bump

[viscid solstice]

half bump

too risky to make a full bump

[hollow nimbus]

no risk btw

[viscid solstice]

haters be chasing me man

[hollow nimbus]

hating for what brooo

[viscid solstice]

For bumping something they don't like

😭

[hollow nimbus]

dont let the haters change you bro

[hollow surge]

the channel is alr dying bro

it moves way slower than the first few days #「⬆️」elemental-tower

[iron marsh]

please make it to scale bro

[hoary root]

I mean it gets pretty boring

[desert shadow]

its infinite

[hollow nimbus]

Do the rewards scale higher