Make meta units harder to obtain

[dim salmon]

this game is too easy now with new players easily able to attain meta units such as dio oh and luffy g4 which takes absolutely barely any effort to get.

[dense birch]

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[dim salmon]

vanguard units are harder to get for sure but vanguard are supposed to be a challenge to obtain anyways

[fossil rivet]

Well I think that's how the game was supposed to be at first

VSJW is still pretty tedious to get

But it seems that they have ditched that

Having meta monarchs won't get you far in competitive content if you don't know what you're doing though, so I guess it doesn't really matter

[dim salmon]

well the game on release was lwk a lil challenging like getting igris then came the demon slayer upd which was a little difficult at first requiring a lot of people and was essentially impossible to solo but eventually became managable but now the games has became too soft

[robust quiver]

HARDER? instead of playing av 24/7 why dont u just do sth else like play other games, movies, homework or chat to ur family? dio oh is not that easy unless u have carry which mostly happens in act 9 and deadass lucky to pull. Luffy evo already locked behind new map so having them unevo to clear early content is nothing EASY at all. Stop making newbie gameplay miserable bro this is some kind of "the cycle of abuse". Since u say meta units ainz is already a hell hole for newbie, aint noone carry u sh unless u lucky. Broly and sjw are the same. Easy here is not just easy to clear map, its also the TIME, YOUR EFFORT.

In case u are auto player (u know what I mean), dont use that logic here, lots of people actually "play" the game and some even care to check their electric bills

[obtuse cobalt]

why u so pressed

[low perch]

Getting igris was challenging??? You mean tedious and easy as shit

new player experience is hella important, it's honestly better that it's not a super long progression grind to get the better units

[dim salmon]

Ig it for me was a challenge as i had to do 300 runs to get it but i suppose thats more tedious than challenging u right

[dim salmon]

If the devs keep thinking abt new players making meta units extremely easy to attain it would not be fun to grind for us endgame players don’t u agree?

[low perch]

Eh, not really. I think there's ways to balance it, but it doesn't help that the past couple updates have been event updates. Which are designed to be the best times for newer players to get into the game and get strong units.

[shell oriole]

mmmm no bro

you are far from the minority

the minority is the comp players

I will be expecting to be using the “comp player bathrooms” when lbs get removed

and also have to take a “test” to vote on polls

[whole ice]

"unless you have carry" when final boss gets one shotted by most good units

you could solo act 9 with release units

[robust quiver]

u know there is act 8 dont u?

[shell oriole]

also super ez

[robust quiver]

doesnt work with newbie

[shell oriole]

it’s not newbie

u just have skill issue

[robust quiver]

ok captain always right

[shell oriole]

I don’t even have to use my 27 Monarchs

Traitless Goblin Killer does the job

[robust quiver]

this is why a flop like UTD has a chance to rise up, thx to these mindset. Im leaving, believe whatever u like then

[shell oriole]

elemental tower is a good step

but ye AV should be harder

us comp players and you skill issue players should live in peace and harmony

[silk quiver]

No bro, you have to think in the people that will leave your game instantly to play other shit than those who stay in your game longer

We have to give new players more ways to get resources

They should add a easy mode fof elemental tower where the enemy hp is 10 with the same rewards so new players can do it

[plush fern]

bro the whole two months i first played av i could barely beat the igris boss and i never got him till a few months ago and ur telling me to make shi harder to get?>>>

[shell oriole]

skill issue

[plush fern]

no bro the best unit back then was literally just tengen and rengoku or sm

[shell oriole]

wrong units

u need to bring Cha In

tengen too is good but not Rengoku

[silk quiver]

Holy skill issue

[plush fern]

[whole ice]

still easy?

[obtuse cobalt]

u might be terrible

[fervent tree]

aint even hard anymore just time consuming

thats really it

[magic glen]

there is no more comp content

[fossil rivet]

True since they r removing lbs and stuff

[proper kiln]

new level of skill issue

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-cat-grey-cat-cute-cat-gif-2949633679466643461

[plush fern]

yes when ethereal vegeta was my go to unit

and i was dumb asf

[proven falcon]

I get what u say but a lot of stuff are being made with new players in mind now. This is one of those that is prob reasonable since getting meta units easily without having to grind too much is one reason why it's easy to pull new players at any point. There are many games where CCU just dies off after a point because of the amount of progression.

Maybe make it that completing index gives better rewards so that people are encouraged to go back and complete them... i think that's the best that we can do.

[low perch]

if you had eth vegeta and you still struggled with god statue, then that's fs insane skill issue

[high moss]

Yes pls

[cursive flint]

i love how hollow knight invalidates this argument bc of how easy he is to evo

[low perch]

Huh