#What happened to Communication in AV?

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echo sigil
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Yh

candid lake
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Still didn't say anything so who cares

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Leaving us on read isn't communication 🤦

grave bay
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I Thought The Same Thing Rather Than "Allowing Replays/Next With Domains"

rigid drift
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stages have basically stopped happening cause valks always been the main yapper, with every other dev/owner being too much of an introvert. and now that valks started doing 10x more work than before, hes too busy to host any stages, causing a lack of them. and even if we did have stages, its admittedly pointless for updates like 9.5, where all criticism would just boil down to “why did the update take so long?”, which is something were more painfully aware of than even the most diehard av fans. people will always have questions or criticisms or feedbacks, and the reality is we cant just spend half our days curating and responding to each and every one of them in professional messages in sub announcements or update logs. were still a small dev team, and taking in so much feedback is overwhelming. as an example: ive already explained before in chats that we cant expand unit inventory slots due to data size limitations, as itd make player data so big that itd fail to save their game data altogether. if this was a huge ask posited by tens of thousands of players, we could explain it in more detail in a public-facing post, and try thinking of some ways to solve it, but the reality is its a bottom-of-the-barrel issue that 99% of players dont care about. the bigger problem are the update times, gameplay quality, and whether the game is fun to play; so we will always prioritize that exclusively.
there is a similar explanation behind any of the other missing or removed mechanics, that we could spend time curating a response to. but we cannot be explaining every single decision we make and why we made it, as that is unfeasible. just look at any other large game—nightreign, hollow knight, factorio, terraria, minecraft. they dont spend time going through every suggestion and explaining their stances behind everything for a reason.

knotty onyx
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Highkey unit storage isn't a bottom-of-the-barrel issue that 99% of players don't care about and now that trading is a thing there will be even more players wanting more storage (everyone I know that plays av says they don't have enough storage)

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W pyseph ❤️ for responding tho

untold hill
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I've personally never run out of unit storage tsinsanevro

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I always just have a ton of fodder exclusives sitting for exp fusing

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But for a F2P player, it's most likely very restrictive (I forget how many slots they can do)

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I wish the robux pass for slots was more of a "shortcut" option to maxing out storage than just a fully extra bit unobtainable otherwise

noble quail
muted mauve
echo sigil
# rigid drift stages have basically stopped happening cause valks always been the main yapper,...

I agree with about 80% of what you said. But if I’m not mistaken, originally Emmie was responsible for Stage, not Valk. Though that’s not really the main point

About inventory slots: a regular F2P player can have around 200 slots if I’m not wrong, while a P2w player can have up to 450. Why is the difference so huge? (I have 450 slots and I have no problems, I'm just asking for those who can't buy)

I also have another question. You said that about 90% of the players are 12y, and it’s hard to explain things to them (which I completely agree with). But then what’s the point of making units as complex as Ainz, which require an unreal amount of time and understanding to use properly, when 90% of players will just choose to use Dio instead? Even though it’s obvious that Ainz is potentially the best unit in the game. Logically, it doesn’t really make sense to me (that’s just my opinion).

And one more question: why is there such a big difference in the quality of remodels between units? For example, in the One Piece update, why do Luffy and Brook look like 10/10 models, while Nami and Sanji are some of the worst models in the game, mostly because of their faces? I fully understand the DMCA situation, and Sailorenso already gave his comment on that, but I’m still curious what you personally think about it

muted mauve
# muted mauve w/ gamepass that's around 450 right

if the issue is that, as updates come, players that are either collectors or simply do not succeed at managing their space correctly, tend to reach that limit, then increasing the limit by something like 50, 100, or maybe more, would be a temporary solution, would it not? The issue would once again show up in a few updates as new units get added, and then a few after that, and so on, which isn't great considering that any existing suggestions in increasing the space, even if slightly, are already pushing the boundaries of the data limit.
Imo, there should be a better solution to the issue of unit space than simply increasing the limit

noble quail
echo sigil
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450

untold hill
echo sigil
untold hill
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Katakuri at least has a much more recognizable outfit, I'd think

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Personally, I think the sanji and nami models are fine just being what they are

rigid drift
random wasp
echo sigil
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Sorry, but the remodels completely ruin Nami’s and Sanji’s faces. They just don’t fit at all. I understand that the characters themselves are fairly simple, but then what’s the problem with adding, for example, glasses to Nami, like the ones Luffy has in his pre-evo form? I never thought I’d say this, but even the AA Nami model looks better. (I’ve never played AA, I just saw it in a video by Nag)

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Its just problem with faces

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Idk

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What do you think?

hybrid field
untold hill
sleek prairie
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it looks way more accurate

rigid drift
untold hill
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I'd recognize the AV model as the character at least five times faster than the AA one

rigid drift
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caroline?

untold hill
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the only thing I could see making an argument for the AV model

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Is giving her the staff

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imho that's like the only thing that feels off in all these comparisons

sleek prairie
sleek prairie
lime meteor
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if we didnt know it was a op update no 1 would have guessed that its nami

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she looks more like rangiku than nami

untold hill
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Still would've guessed it way more easily than the AA one

lime meteor
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aa one looks almost identical

sleek prairie
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you can't be serious

lime meteor
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no way you would recognize av's easier

sleek prairie
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AV model is obviously way higher quality but the AA model is way more accurate

lime meteor
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^

sleek prairie
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you can't be this biased

untold hill
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110% would recognize AV's sooner

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This has nothing to do with bias, it's just how it is

sleek prairie
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guess so bro

lime meteor
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this is genuinely one of the few times i can say someones opinion is just wrong

deft perch
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Nami from AV is better quality, however Nami from AA is more accurate

deft perch
# rigid drift ah, is this a skin or smt

Hello, sorry for the ping. Do you know if in Part 2 there will be banners available to customize the profile? I would really like to use Luffy vs. Doflamingo as a banner, or possibly the new banner that will be released

crisp otter
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20 days for a part 2 update

candid lake
# rigid drift stages have basically stopped happening cause valks always been the main yapper,...

No one is asking you to explain every single minor decision 🤦 its just that dumb decisions are made and you complain when you're criticised for it. Look at the removal of inf and worldline lb, that was the only endgame content we had and as I've said before elemental towers isn't a good enough replacement. You make a poll in a separate server with the minority of the community to vote on the removal of lb without seeing what the rest of the community thinks. The game polls channel exists for a reason however its rarely used, even having polls would be better than not saying anything because at least we would know that you're actively taking feedback from the community without getting overwhelmed by it.

knotty onyx
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yes please more polls 🙂‍↕️

rigid drift
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top tier ragebait

deft perch
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I was ignored

candid lake
rigid drift
candid lake
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Read through what you typed and you would see that I responded to all your flawed points 🤦

rigid drift
candid lake
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It can't be that hard to make polls 💔

candid lake
rigid drift
# candid lake No one is asking you to explain every single minor decision 🤦 its just that dum...

"You’re missing the core point of why we’ve gone quiet. It isn’t about being 'allergic' to criticism; it’s about resource allocation. Here is why your points don't align with the reality of our development:

The 'Just use Polls' Fallacy: You suggest polls are a low-effort way to take feedback, but they aren’t. To run a meaningful poll, we have to curate the options, explain the technical 'whys' behind each choice, and then deal with the inevitable fallout when a 'popular' choice isn't technically feasible. We aren't here to run a democracy; we are here to build a functional game.

The Minority vs. Majority: You mentioned we poll 'separate servers' (dedicated/high-level players). That is intentional. We prioritize feedback from the people who understand the game’s deep mechanics over a general 'game-polls' channel where the loudest voices often don't understand the technical constraints—like the inventory data limits I mentioned.

Endgame Content vs. Technical Debt: You see the removal of Worldline LB/Inf as a 'dumb decision.' We see it as removing mechanics that may have been bloating data or hindering the 'gameplay quality' we are currently trying to prioritize. Like I said, we have to prioritize whether the game is actually fun and functional over maintaining legacy features that 99% of the player base isn't interacting with.

The 'Just Explain It' Loop: You say no one is asking us to explain every minor decision, yet you are currently asking for an explanation on a specific leaderboard removal. This proves my point: every decision is 'minor' to some and 'major' to others. If we stop to explain the 'why' behind the LBs, the inventory slots, and the 9.5 delay, we spend our entire day writing essays instead of actually coding the fixes you want.

The Scale of Professionalism: Large-scale devs like Re-Logic or Ghost Ship Games don’t spend their days in Discord trenches defending every balance change. We are a small team. Every hour Valk or the rest of us spends 'curating' a response to the community is an hour lost on the next update. We have chosen to prioritize work over talk."
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im not bothering replying with you enjoy the ai slop

candid lake
rigid drift
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statistically it is

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.1% played it

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if not less

knotty onyx
# muted mauve if the issue is that, as updates come, players that are either collectors or sim...

ALS storage works by having the player buy up to 1000 slots and they don't seem to have a problem with data limits and it also fixes the problem of it just being a temporary solution. I don't think anyone would complain if we had that amount of storage. Now I'm not a developer and don't know how exactly the unit storage impacts the data limit that much but I feel like there is a way to make it work. Also ALS might not be the best game to take inspiration from imo but I have never seen anyone complain about losing data in that game or not having enough storage.

candid lake
rigid drift
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we spend $150k USD per update

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but yes thank you for your divine knowledge

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we couldnt have thought of that

deft perch
# rigid drift if not less

Hey, did you see my message? Sorry for asking, I don't know if you didn't see it or if you're ignoring it

candid lake
rigid drift
candid lake
rigid drift
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??

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yo bro

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ur being promoted to owner

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clearly u know better about marketing and handling teams

candid lake
rigid drift
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i am dming archmage and permabanning you off deep bro

candid lake
knotty onyx
# candid lake

calm down pal I don't think this is a good way to criticise

civic umbra
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we get our opportunity to speak to pyseph and this dumdum sky is ruining it 💔

candid lake
knotty onyx
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but u came in kinda mad too icl

candid lake
rigid drift
cinder scroll
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Suggestion blacklist speedrun

civic umbra
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ban speedrun*

knotty onyx
muted mauve
knotty onyx
muted mauve
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it's certainly not impossible, just is not as simple as adding more slots

abstract kestrel
abstract kestrel
cinder scroll
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I saw

civic umbra
austere river
rigid drift
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do you know elym by chance

abstract kestrel
rigid drift
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boo

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boooooooooooo

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throws banana peel

abstract kestrel
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unless u can tel me where theyre from

rigid drift
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the exploit for rogue lineage

abstract kestrel
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oh i know u exploietd

proud ingot
abstract kestrel
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i thought elym was a person lol

abstract kestrel
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i thought i'd prob know them cuz hah lets just say im influential

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u could call me a celebrity

untold hill
knotty onyx
untold hill
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that's not the point

abstract kestrel
untold hill
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People generally don't like interacting with comp in a gacha game because most of the time, accessibility is dictated by whether you got lucky with your dice rolls or not, or whether you have a fat wallet. It's really not surprising why such a small portion of the playerbase interacts with comp modes, because they honestly don't really have a good place in a game like this.

abstract kestrel
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next suggestion should be plz do ac admin abuse

knotty onyx
untold hill
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Which is entirely fair

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But I guarantee that is not the overarching reason for the lack of interaction with comp

knotty onyx
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yeah i can agree on that for sure

shut panther
knotty onyx
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Stuff like worldlines lb and infinite lb are also just extremely time consuming

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pretty sure that is also most players reason for why they don't want to do it

sleek prairie
untold hill
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That, and they're prone to their own host of issues. Needing very specific unit setups and specific traits on them, infinite runs being super volatile in terms of "will our run lag out and crash after being 2-3 hours into a single run and not give us anything"

sleek prairie
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only reason someone would realistically run them is for the title or they're just really bored and have nothing better to do

shut panther
untold hill
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And the limited unit heaviness of the game doesn't help with the specific unit needs at all

abstract kestrel
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man we have to wait another week

knotty onyx
sleek prairie
sleek prairie
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cuz it's so bad on mobile

knotty onyx
abstract kestrel
sleek prairie
untold hill
abstract kestrel
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ik u r but like HOW can people not do it if ur not on mobile

sleek prairie
untold hill
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Idk what specifically happened, but I don't think it was involved with the server

sleek prairie
untold hill
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afaik she's still a dev, just isn't in here

abstract kestrel
sleek prairie
knotty onyx
# sleek prairie For sure bro

i dont play on mobile so idk why it is hard but you can kinda just ignore 2 of the lanes and only play with 3 and even then you will get enough points

abstract kestrel
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i just realized are we really that introverted to not be able to do stages

knotty onyx
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even on expert im pretty sure

sleek prairie
# abstract kestrel

It's way easier to do on PC (dk about console) but on mobile it's so horrendous

abstract kestrel
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like im pretty introverted and i was able to talk on the stage without tripping out

sleek prairie
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I've tried multiple times but because of how close they are i can't click fast enough

knotty onyx
abstract kestrel
knotty onyx
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fortnite festival so peak 🥺

abstract kestrel
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im talking about that

shut panther
sleek prairie
knotty onyx
abstract kestrel
knotty onyx
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console players already don't have it easy man come on 😢

abstract kestrel
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bro u playing anime VANGUARDS on console jst give up

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2k and deepwoken exist on console

knotty onyx
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sometimes there's just too many buttons at once

sleek prairie
knotty onyx
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ig ur right man 😟

abstract kestrel
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can we get yeonwoo's innocence unit plzzzzzzzzzzzzz

errant skiff
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Hi lol

sleek prairie
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bye

torpid kelp
abstract kestrel
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im crine bro

torpid kelp
# abstract kestrel what

if it’s so hard for them to make messages to the community because they’d be better off spending that 20 minutes coding why do they have such a small budget

civic umbra
abstract kestrel
torpid kelp
abstract kestrel
abstract kestrel
torpid kelp
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at the bottom

torpid kelp
abstract kestrel
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can you point it out i dont see it

civic umbra
torpid kelp
abstract kestrel
civic umbra
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the games quality is already top tier, the problem comes to game balancing and content

abstract kestrel
abstract kestrel
# torpid kelp how

its not saying that the few hours a stage is is wasted time its that the time it takes to constantly reply and receive beyond just a stage as said in an actual paragraph pyseph typed

raw relic
torpid kelp
abstract kestrel
tardy coral
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i said please idiot

crisp otter
rigid drift
abstract kestrel
crisp otter
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because they were on the last stage and it was like 30 mins of q&a and less were spent on kahoot

tardy coral
abstract kestrel
tardy coral
raw relic
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odyssey refresh will save the game

civic umbra
raw relic
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on dayorblx soul

tardy coral
raw relic
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they gna diss the fuck out of u
ts is ass

abstract kestrel
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people will buy it just to burn it 😭

crisp otter
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the time it takes to constantly reply and receive beyond just a stage

raw relic
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bro why we talking abt plushies

rigid drift
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im only making one for my partner

tardy coral
crisp otter
rigid drift
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no

abstract kestrel
raw relic
abstract kestrel
civic umbra
torpid kelp
tardy coral
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this just in: dev says "no" to even reading suggestion; what will the future of av look like with 0 communication 0 responses to real suggestions instead of just dev hate 0 point to play the game when everyone has 10000 rerolls from christmas even 0 competitive scene 0 replayability 0 consistency between unit models... BUT WAIT WE HAVE A GOATED UI THAT WORKS 50% OF THE TIME

abstract kestrel
abstract kestrel
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@woven hemlock

raw relic
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that was aura

tardy coral
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who said that

raw relic
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holy im shivering

abstract kestrel
abstract kestrel
# tardy coral NAMES?

games that are played for fun instead of competitively are typically played more dude competitive games take way more dedication

civic umbra
tardy coral
civic umbra
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i dont use israel gpt

raw relic
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js realised
ur pfp is ai
took a whole river to make ts

civic umbra
woven hemlock
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wow

raw relic
civic umbra
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his pfp is the reason why my electricity bill is going up

abstract kestrel
woven hemlock
raw relic
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can u ban poocok
he has rly bad opinions

woven hemlock
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cant really do that now can i

raw relic
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✌️

civic umbra
opaque belfry
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if he used pen and paper it would have destroyed animals homes

versed summit
raw relic
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js swap him out for another secret
i promise the benefits outweigh the downsides

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also 2x alucard event would be hype somewhere

versed summit
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alucard is so cool tho

errant skiff
versed summit
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for how rare alucard is i think he needs some love

raw relic
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i alr said that

errant skiff
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u literally just want tournaments as lb 😭

raw relic
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ye but monthly

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also ppl love tournaments

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very good gameplay🥶

errant skiff
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deadass js make an alu vf event and throw in happy chaos

versed summit
errant skiff
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event lasts for 10 days

alu: 100 coins
alu vf: 100 coins
happy chaos skin: 100 coins

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20 coins per day

raw relic
errant skiff
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😭

versed summit
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fair

errant skiff
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not giving him a vf for halloween was horrendous

versed summit
errant skiff
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sasuke instead 🥶

versed summit
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sasuke was great tho

errant skiff
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they blame it on alu being too rare when thats literally the devs' fault refusing to add pity

versed summit
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but i hate having to tell new players that alucard sucks so i hope they do something good with him

errant skiff
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alucard is off meta as FUCK rn

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esp since damage amp doesnt stack

versed summit
errant skiff
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no its caue

raw relic
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nah

errant skiff
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we in a game with scorched, conduit, despair, bubbled

raw relic
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even when dio was added alu was still the best at applying
but now despair exists

versed summit
raw relic
raw relic
errant skiff
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-shares typing with broly
-broly applies rupture

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any seting wwhere unbound is usable youll be running broly so his bleed does jack shit

raw relic
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bro what

versed summit
raw relic
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uh

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can @ big p pull out the stats

versed summit
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banner secret doing like 50k dmg MAX with monarch shouldnt be a thing

raw relic
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there we go W ping

errant skiff
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@bigp Hi

errant skiff
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didnt give alu a vf on the ANNIVERSARY update that coincidentally ended up being around HALLOWEEN

versed summit
errant skiff
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the banner secret that was oneof two secret units on release

abstract kestrel
versed summit
versed summit
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yeah and its rlly dumb

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cant just not add shit to the game cuz someone on the dev team doesnt like the unit

crimson goblet
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well valk has a lot of pull since i dont think the owners really watch anime

raw relic
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i mean best case scenario is they do like:
alu vf
give hella gems
2x alu drop rate
maybe happy chaos and pity
cool sendoff ig right
then give an announcement that he will leave and be replaced in like 2-3 updates

errant skiff
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valk saying that ichigo doesnt have enough attacks then proceeding to make femto who does like 2 things 🥶

crimson goblet
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i know pyseph doesnt
kazi watches mainly fate (goat) and some small stuff that wouldnt really fit into an atd

errant skiff
raw relic
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i mean auric likes him id assume

versed summit
raw relic
crimson goblet
versed summit
raw relic
versed summit
errant skiff
raw relic
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for like 3 updates then hes out of meta anyway by the time he leaves

versed summit
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its a good idea but im sure the devs will be against that

errant skiff
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devs dont do anything the players want

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u do something like waht feh just said and 99% of th eplayerbase is happy

versed summit
crimson goblet
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"why dont you like our game when we're making updates for profit and not your enjoyment"

errant skiff
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yk its funny that when u like read valk's messages u can like

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they read like theyre logical points but u actually think about what hes saying nad its so fucking stupid

rustic laurel
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you delete them from ur non existent planner?

crimson goblet
errant skiff
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like the statement he made saying that he didnt have time to host a stage but then also saying that he has time to be the only one talking in a stage...?

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does that not just directly contradict the first point? 😭

versed summit
# crimson goblet

i know what he means but still like 90% of the players will ask for something and they jus wont add it

rustic laurel
crimson goblet
crisp otter
rustic laurel
crimson goblet
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no bro it was because it was the ainz update and the content sucked 😭 they tried to repeat 7.5 but did it awfully

raw relic
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like at the very least host a poll asking what was good bad or mid abt the upd

errant skiff
woven hemlock
crimson goblet
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i like the game but i dont like the direction its going in

versed summit
raw relic
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nah atleast knowing what we dont like is a start
then u reverse engineer why
feel like its bear minimum

abstract kestrel
errant skiff
rigid drift
abstract kestrel
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i got you maggy

raw relic
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nahhhhh aync they got u

rustic laurel
errant skiff
abstract kestrel
woven hemlock
rigid drift
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good job on the maths

abstract kestrel
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wrong reply mb 😭

versed summit
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so what yall doin abt alucard

errant skiff
opaque belfry
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pysef when can u add diego vf

stray yoke
raw relic
stray yoke
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Lol

abstract kestrel
raw relic
errant skiff
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it would be cool if there was a f2p option to get the 450 storage

crimson goblet
abstract kestrel
errant skiff
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that would help a lot of people

crimson goblet
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also Shinjuku wont be for a few years so heian Sukuna really doesnt make a lot of sense

abstract kestrel
versed summit
rigid drift
crimson goblet
rigid drift
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whats the max at f2p

abstract kestrel
crimson goblet
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with meguna

rigid drift
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...

errant skiff
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250 i think

raw relic
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250 no?

rigid drift
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ill talk to valk about it lol

abstract kestrel
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200-250

errant skiff
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which is NOT enough for all of the limited units we have rn

raw relic
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yay we getting somewhere constructive

opaque belfry
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pyseph can u sell ur game to me

abstract kestrel
rigid drift
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only issue is some of the people who paid for it would complain that theyd end up wasting money

versed summit
versed summit
opaque belfry
versed summit
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1 grillion rerolls

errant skiff
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if anyoen complains just ban them its ok

stray yoke
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Jk

errant skiff
raw relic
versed summit
crisp otter
rustic laurel
raw relic
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i do cause im genius but thats diff

crimson goblet
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sidenote

why is alucard lowk better than lvk

raw relic
crimson goblet
rustic laurel
errant skiff
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guys it is not looking good

rigid drift
versed summit
rigid drift
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what do you want

crimson goblet
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idk why since he takes so long to get
dio still better because yeah

raw relic
opaque belfry
versed summit
abstract kestrel
crimson goblet
abstract kestrel
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we are fat with greed and rage

rigid drift
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report to testers

crimson goblet
rustic surge
rustic laurel
opaque belfry
abstract kestrel
crimson goblet
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never bounced anything back

unless its super super super small and unnoticeable

onyx notch
stray yoke
errant skiff
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yooooo wheres the nami vf at 👀

onyx notch
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johnny familiar would be fire

raw relic
errant skiff
opaque belfry
versed summit
crimson goblet
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i dont want a johnny vf either but Valk has such a bias to jjba

crisp otter
versed summit
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we ALL want an alucard familiar first before anything else

crimson goblet
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so

opaque belfry
onyx notch
errant skiff
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bro deadass remove the 5s cd from her meter use follow up and she would be like meta

crimson goblet
stray yoke
opaque belfry
raw relic
errant skiff
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an elphelt vf could literally give her 50% mroe base dmg and revert her to no cd on follow up and she would be rocking like 300k dps

opaque belfry
versed summit
errant skiff
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i think like 375k ish

opaque belfry
errant skiff
crimson goblet
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also im surprised we didnt get a seras victoria unit for halloween

if they cant do a vf for alucard because hes so rare thats fine, but they couldve had synergy

errant skiff
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elphelt has always sucked ass onplacement even pre nerf

stray yoke
onyx notch
errant skiff
sullen fable
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do yall think shanks is gonna make the unbound/unknown tower possible

raw relic
crimson goblet
versed summit
errant skiff
raw relic
onyx notch
errant skiff
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i promise u 75% of the pppl who want gear 5 dont even know what gear 5 does 😭

raw relic
crimson goblet
opaque belfry
crimson goblet
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guys cmon

sullen fable
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gear 5 luffy smelly trash poop fr fr

crisp otter
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bro reacted himself

stray yoke
crimson goblet