ELEMENTAL TOWERS

[tough rivet]

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[distant dew]

I know the game ain’t gonna be easy but the hell is this

Is this hard content they trynna do?

[shut schooner]

bruh this aint hard

this is impossible

FAHHH

230million HP FAHHH

[distant dew]

If they do hard content based on monarchs, I think it’s justify ig

Considered rr is easy to access

[shut schooner]

basically they made this mdoe only for those with money, its unfair for people who are F2P

[distant dew]

You call it unfair, I call it hard content
Before you jump me, just remember it meant to be endgame content which you only do when you have nothing to do
Second is you can bring whole squad without it scale

[shut schooner]

fair enough

[distant dew]

Considered we just have new farm, unit like Ainz and more

The scaling seem fine, idk if they balance well between every element

Since I can’t recall a top tier dps for Passion

[shut schooner]

yeah fire is unbalanced since escanor and obito the only good fire units

[distant dew]

Hm… idk if Tengen count

[shut schooner]

tengen is blast isnt he?

[distant dew]

Familiar

[shut schooner]

what does his familliar do? havent gotten it yet

[crude patio]

oh baby im glad i just got valentines vf

[distant dew]

Oh ye, passion have Uma and Valentine

Crazy

[distant dew]

So…

[crude patio]

and a billion support units

WE are all using hakura in the big update 10

[distant dew]

He will buff fire and blast Allie by 30% damage

He will gain fire element

He can do Scorched which is increase fire damage

[crude patio]

nah bc outside of the gamemode he only has blast until u place him

[distant dew]

I thought dev fix this problem… Aiz

[crude patio]

unless he has the 2 elements like nami in lobby

[proper mesa]

its supposed to be diffcult plus its perm u got hella time
thing is they didnt rly test it clearly and valk acc made it exponential cause hes a genius
this game sucks

[crude patio]

spark should be.. ok

[distant dew]

WE (YES, WE) USING TODO FOR THIS

[shut schooner]

oh yeah it needs to default fire to be placed or something

[shut schooner]

todo is the goat fr

[crude patio]

curse will be a joke

i have monarch hk + sukuna combo so :>

[distant dew]

Oh and erm, his fam make him do guaranteed crit when hit debuffed enemy which he will alway do since he cause Scorched

[shut schooner]

yeah since you got sukuna ainz and hollow

[crude patio]

hk breaks 1m with sukuna

and skull knight

[distant dew]

Why the fuck is Gazelle Passion

[shut schooner]

yeah does like 1.1m i think

[crude patio]

because valentines update

[distant dew]

Fair point…

[crude patio]

also i heard she got hyperinflated, is she really worth like a diavlo?

[distant dew]

People trynna manipulate his value

Which is rule breaking

Bucket caught up with the issue

[crude patio]

ah i see
(keep inflating i want diavlo)

[distant dew]

Tbh tho, whoever actually trade Dia for Giselle because they thought Giselle’s value actually that high, they should not hold a Dia💔

[shut schooner]

actually she aint that good tbh

[distant dew]

Ye, he have a fucking annoying bug which I’m not even sure if dev fix it or not

Only unit buff Summon Hp so far so his value is somewhat understandable

Go with Ainz, holy shit

[shut schooner]

he's easy to get tho 100k chocolate only

[distant dew]

Lemme remind you tho, 3K per portal💔

It’s more easy if you have carrier

[shut schooner]

oh yeah but macaronni exist tho

[shut schooner]

yeah its easier that way

[distant dew]

You need 4 people in portal to get that amount btw

And map change every portal

Or rephrase better, it change based on what you choose

[distant dew]

I’m a mobile player, my boyfriend was the one who get it that time and our friend carry us most the time

Not a very fun grind I would say

[shut schooner]

being a mobile player is crazy tbh i got to level 197 purely playing on mobile 😭

[distant dew]

Ye… I didn’t use any macaroni till now

Never understand the feeling of afking

[shut schooner]

same

[crude patio]

i went through the grind, even got the chair (chair is best mount in da game imo)

[shut schooner]

fingers burning and neck curled like a shrimp every game

[crude patio]

i only really afk the banner events

[distant dew]

I didn’t got the chair, the grind so insufferable, I’m give up the chair, lose my attempt to collect every mount in the game

F2P ofc

I ain’t spend 10K for a mount

[crude patio]

such a good mount
floats so it doesnt get stuck on anything
FAST AS HECK
and looks tuff

[distant dew]

My favorite would go for Cloud Suit ngl

[crude patio]

fair

[jagged tide]

It's random

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 u lucky u didn't get anything above namek

[zealous radish]

this tower is literally impossible i don’t think anybody can even reach floor 20 on any element

[alpine harness]

yeah

i see dark mage

[tepid sigil]

thats just coping rn

[brazen schooner]

make fhe gamemode linear

[crude patio]

for my first fire i got a fate stage, 40m hp boss but i should be able to handle it

[zealous radish]

floor 3 fire is not possible i tried with full team with monarch obito and escanor

[crude patio]

fun!

wonder if sanji is any good

brutal name for akainu

[alpine harness]

what is it

[proper mesa]

bro

its full rng man😭

[alpine harness]

yeah

if u get a regen its imposable For
fire
spark idk if nuilfy stops regen
Passion (medusa doesnt count aoe to trash and long spa)
Cosmic
unknown

[steep stump]

Imo the worst part is that unlike wordlines they didnt make set floors

Which honestly removes all type of challenges

[alpine harness]

its a fun gamemode

but it should 100% be tweaked to match what element can do

[unborn night]

ur supp to do it with players

rewards are worth it so im not complaining

[alpine harness]

doesnt matter if theres regen

[unborn night]

gulp

[crude patio]

teehee

[icy lion]

It's mainly late-game content; I don't believe they intended for it to be completable in only one update.

[empty gazelle]

Curse and passion might be the only doable ones

And unbound

[unborn night]

maybe water with luffy

[empty gazelle]

No he alone can’t do anything much

Even with newsman

[steep stump]

You are saying this with everyone at their max capacity right? (Monarch + a god birb)

[icy lion]

The scaling for some of the later floors was toned down, so perhaps. But I don't think any of them have been completed yet; we'll have to wait and see.

[empty gazelle]

elements that don’t have bleed or rupture are physically impossible

Oh yeah it did get toned down

Still not really a reason to play since anniversary stage is here

[unborn night]

why do u think he cant with a full squad

[empty gazelle]

Cause there’s legit no other good water units

[unborn night]

[empty gazelle]

lol projecting

[unborn night]

sure

[raw elbow]

Unfair this mode relaying on monarch 🥹

[alpine harness]

yeah its peak

i can use my monarchs and think🥹

Holy peak

[prime viper]

it is doable

its meant to be played with 4 players

and its endgame content for a reason if u dont have monarchs come back and attempt the gamemode with other players once ur end game

[zealous radish]

buddy i had full team of monarch escanor and obito and we couldn’t get past floor 3 fire

[prime viper]

4 players with monarch escanor and obito?

[zealous radish]

yes

[prime viper]

oh other elements are perfectly doable though like curse unbound

they should just make it scale depending on what element it is because certain elements suck compred to others

and yeah fire would be pretty much impossible because i dont think theirs a single bleed or rupture unit

[half wedge]

i thought the game wasnt monarch reliant

[prime viper]

are you a brick

what part of "ENDGAME" do you not understand

[half wedge]

also, there are no mechanics with this. its just pure health pool and dps check

[half wedge]

might want to look in the mirror

[little berry]

What do you think "endgame" means

People have been complaining about a lack of difficult content for insanely long

[empty gazelle]

Not even difficult ngl just a slugfest until the boss

They should make it like aa raids lv difficulty

[half wedge]

this implies every tower you have needs monarch for endgame content which mean the game is monarch relaint to do anything past early progression

the whole point of the game not being monarch reliant means that other towers work wiht other mythicaol trais and monarch gatekeeping everythihng because it renders other myhtic traits basically useless

[little berry]

1 singular gamemode that is fully optional requires monarchs, yeah. If you classify that as "anything beyond early progression" then that's on you

[half wedge]

you are jsut confirming the game is monarhc reliant lmao

[half wedge]

you said end game

[little berry]

Yea the hardest gamemode in the game which is fully optional and exists to provide something for endgame people to play is monarch reliant

[half wedge]

so if they start adding other 'end game' game modes that measn theyd be moanrch reliant

[little berry]

Is this supposed to be shocking or

[half wedge]

so that means ultimately you only want to go for monarch

you are just being brainless and putting 0 thoughts into your words

[little berry]

Took you more than an year since the game's release to realize this?

[burnt current]

no i want vigor 1 on my units

[untold fog]

End game content should be monarch reliant but it shouldn’t require other ppl

[knotty oasis]

Lowkey why is stage 1 so hard lol

[untold fog]

Idk why the devs made it so u need to have other ppl to beat the elemental tower or wtv

[knotty oasis]

I have 2 monarchs

[half wedge]

well fuck making ethereal or other mythical traits useful on other towers with the right passive and trait balancing

[burnt current]

i mean its just hard to balance out a game in general with traits being a thing

[half wedge]

are you implying end game should be monarch reliant for solo palyers?

I dont mind that, but it should def not be for an entire squad

every single useful tower requiring purely monarch

[untold fog]

Yes idm end game content being monarch reliant as everyone has monarch nowadays

[half wedge]

in a full squad

[untold fog]

But I don’t like the idea of needing other players to beat the stage and they also have to have monarchs.

[half wedge]

this is why shit like regnaw shouldnt be exclusive

scales perfectly well with support buffing loadout

also doesnt require monarch

regnaw works relatively well with any non-monarch mythic trait but ideally ethereal then solar

[empty gazelle]

Deadeye sjw so good tho

[alpine harness]

You don’t

I’m at floor 13 unbound just do that shit it was easy to I think solo max is 20 but atp you should find a team

[little berry]

You do past a certain point, hp scaling is absurd

[alpine harness]

Yeah I know

But that’s the point of the game mode

[little berry]

Yeah its fine

[alpine harness]

I enjoy the gamemode a lot

[little berry]

People wanted hard endgame co-op play, i think with some tweaks here and there this mode is just that

[alpine harness]

Just balance the hp scaling and modifiers with the element

Fire is deadass the hardest one

0 bleed

[plush iron]

water would be ggs if luffy didnt exist

[alpine harness]

Yes u can put on rojar but it still would heal more then you do damage

[little berry]

Just take regen bosses out tbh, like they did for sand

[alpine harness]

Sakd?

Ah

[half wedge]

God statue, shibuya underground. and sasori shouldnt be in it either, and theyve already removed sasori

[little berry]

Yeah those too

[alpine harness]

Bro I did the train station and I thought mahito scales

[half wedge]

do mahito clones not scale with it

[alpine harness]

Nah

Just used aizen

[little berry]

God statue does tho ps

[alpine harness]

Haven’t gotten god statue

Don’t think it’s in game

[half wedge]

my friend got it

[alpine harness]

Chopped

[half wedge]

[alpine harness]

It’s a fun gamemode all they have to do is
Scale with element
Add a unit that you can place regardless of element (alucard, or Kenny)
And tone down the scaling because people suck at this game😔

[half wedge]

if it is a skill issue and not purely mechanic related then uh

get gud

[alpine harness]

Most av players can’t think for themselves

Had to teach someone how to solos the new ex stage with escanor

[half wedge]

id say the biggest issue with this right now is EXCLUSIVES

[alpine harness]

?

[half wedge]

holy is the hardest if you dont include them

[proper mesa]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347761177207246929/1449005632949719091/ezgif-3518686cf5eebfc0.gif

[half wedge]

only saber and cha in

[half wedge]

for newer people getting to end game

[proper mesa]

cant complain abt exclusives when trading exists

[half wedge]

yes yes hope someone actually gives a trade or freebie

[empty gazelle]

Dio exists btw

[half wedge]

(not happening and very unlikely)

[broken tangle]

not really a good argument

[alpine harness]

That’s why cha in is gonna get a fam

[half wedge]

for now

[half wedge]

[empty gazelle]

Nah never

[half wedge]

she was on the poll, so

[empty gazelle]

Cha in lowkey a bum bro

[half wedge]

when johnny VF, he's so ass 💔

[empty gazelle]

Johnny godly?

[half wedge]

?

[broken tangle]

his aoes ass too no?

[half wedge]

@wintry sparrow

[half wedge]

circle smaller than valentines

for final

[crude patio]

does valentines aoe matter tho when u have 50 units down all doing 50k dps each

[broken tangle]

unbound is so easy god damn

[half wedge]

Johnny isn't valentine, is he?

[crude patio]

u mentioned valentine

[half wedge]

And his is SMALLER than valentines

[half wedge]

Yes Johnnys circle aoe is smaller than valentines

[crude patio]

still gotta evo the sbr units, their passives seem kinda cool

[alpine harness]

Andre passives cool?

[crude patio]

whos?

[alpine harness]

What world do I live in

[half wedge]

Older passive designer

[crude patio]

i mean giro is interesting

[alpine harness]

+33 dmg increase 🥹

Adter attacking 3 times -10 spa🥹

[crude patio]

the steel ball doing dot

[alpine harness]

+1% each wave 🥹

[muted juniper]

The balls are cool in theory but gameplay wise they kinda suck

[half wedge]

His damage resistance ignorance is gapped by newer units raw damage output

[crude patio]

and is the only unit where u need to keep it on a lower upgrade

[half wedge]

Also Griffith

[crude patio]

u cant just instantly max it out

(also i dont want it because its good, god no these units werent even good on release)

[half wedge]

I just hope they do Johnny and gyro justice when the anime releases, they did Ichigo and uryu absolute dog shit too

[crude patio]

holy shit go on giros wiki page

so much trivia

explains some fkn lore

apparently also has a stand model

[plush iron]

gyro vf should bypass geared

[crude patio]

and apparently have all the tusk models as well

good models for that time as well

[muted juniper]

If the raid didn't have a awful mutator and the units weren't awful dps-wise sbr could have actually been good