Make better decisions

[frigid tusk]

ohh yeah a lot of bugs even though my selection banner is still bugged

just say you love israel dawg

[ornate pumice]

[frigid tusk]

maybe you’re on the same wavelength as the devs when it comes to checking bug reports

that was NOT fixed whatsoever bugs still exist

this is a great suggestion the devs could do

yo Nevermind they fixed the selection banner

[ornate pumice]

Dawg

[frigid tusk]

glory to pyseph and anime vanguards

[ornate pumice]

😭

[vital pilot]

Astd in its peak had around as many players as av does rn, that was also before TD games blew up, and the reason ppl liked astd was because it was hard, do you know how hard sijin was?? Full endgame me couldn't solo it had to follow a tutorial, av could easily start introducing hard game modes

Could start with smth similar to gauntlet

Also, they "want" People to stop letting their pc play for them, then why do they keep releasing these things where you have to grind for an insane amount of time

Ainz takes around 50 hours to get

At a rate of 2h/day that's 25 days

For a single unit

[proud slate]

Clearly with this update they changed their mind about the whole "we dont want to stop ahks" stuff

[vital pilot]

(We won't talk about auto play)

[proud slate]

And are actively tryna make the game require as less brain as possible

But oh well its not like i could care less about this game now

[vital pilot]

Yh that's fair, I wish there was an actually hard TD game that released tbh

[stuck pollen]

I mean it's way better than what we used to have in the past where farming a thousand portals was the only way to get gogeta

Well not even that ig since pity wasnt even a thing b4 Kaguya

[vital pilot]

Yh fair

[stuck pollen]

I still think quest based vanguards are better overall because of better engagement personally.

[vital pilot]

Yh, why the actual hell does escanor solo pretty much all stages, he should be a unit that can solo most stages but should not be able to solo the ex versions for example, they're ex versions for a reason they're supposed to be hard

[vital pilot]

Def the broly quest was still mid tbh personally

Well if you can call it a quest really

[main onyx]

Nah seasonal banners ones are better, broly quest was too quick. Undeserving of the best unit in the game at the time

[vital pilot]

They def aren't, I prefer a super quick quest for one of the best unit rather than brain dead afking

[main onyx]

Vsjw wasn't afking though?

[outer elm]

Kinda was

[vital pilot]

You said seasonal banners are better, I'm talking about seasonal banners

Kaguya escanor

[stuck pollen]

I mean i am guessing they did that partly coz few people might not have liked how long vsjw's were

[vital pilot]

Long????

[stuck pollen]

50 ant raids alone were over 16-17 hours worth of grind

[main onyx]

You're acting like everyone could afk grind portals

[vital pilot]

Seasonal banners take atleast 3-4 x longer

[vital pilot]

You can say the same for quest vanguards

Also once escanor came just afk escanor then afk kaguya

[stuck pollen]

I mean as a gamemode, ant raid is just longer and harder to automate compared to portals.

Plus if not anything, you always have the afk chamber for seasonal banners.

Got t/o twice for using the m-word -_-

[vital pilot]

Well the whole point of being a quest vanguard is being harder to automate

[shadow sand]

did this suggestion just say als Halloween/Christmas INF is endgame content

its the same as needing certain monarchs and birbs for faster act 9 clears

[vital pilot]

Christmas is actually hard tho, or was before they released yuji

[stuck pollen]

I get that but nothing is impossible to automate if they can do it for smth like the Cid raids... what quests do have is make a set of different tasks for people to complete so it's not just one big slop grind

[shadow sand]

same as act 8

[vital pilot]

Feel you it being banned is so dum like if cought encouraging it sure go ahead time out but mentioning

[shadow sand]

or its like fall inf

the best strategy is to go to 190 and wave reset with ainz to 99 which needs very endgame units

[vital pilot]

Quick question have you played astd/ went far in it

[stuck pollen]

Nah

[vital pilot]

Yeah guessed they somehow made most of the game impossible to automate

[main onyx]

Afking vsjw was way harder than afk grinding portals?

[vital pilot]

I was endgame legit top 1 leaderboard, still couldn't solo one of the first/old raids also time stops/ buffs had specific timings

[vital pilot]

Yes

[main onyx]

These devs are just horrible at making decisions anyways

[vital pilot]

Also vsjw raid was stupid hard at the start, the problem with this game is that stages are scaled with monarchs

[main onyx]

This suggestion is right though

[vital pilot]

And at vsjw point rr were so hard to get

[outer elm]

if you just didnt pick only debuffs it wasnt that hard

[main onyx]

No??? Only monarchs I had back then were friran and mimi. I could still solo it

[shadow sand]

its just that better units = more rewards

[stuck pollen]

Well i mean... seeing how quickly astdx died out, im not sure if devs wanna follow that example... the problem is devs already said they arent actively trying to stop automating, so my guess is if they do come up with smth which is impossible to automate, its likely to create an adverse player experience in general.

Anyways i think with auto play added in this upd, theres not much that can be changed atp.

[shadow sand]

we got the same thing in av

[main onyx]

Who actually uses autoplay though?

[vital pilot]

Astd x tried to follow modern TD games

[main onyx]

We need a poll for that I think

[vital pilot]

Not the old astd

[vital pilot]

I tried using it for some reason it kept upgrading toji

[stuck pollen]

I am guessing mobile players will see the most appeal in it

[vital pilot]

Sukuna and knight were 0 upg

[vital pilot]

I'm mobile trust me no

[stuck pollen]

But why though... its just pick cards and replay with an autoclicker

[vital pilot]

Because it makes horrible decisions

Something is wrong with auto upgrade I think

Prioritizing some units although others have cheaper upgrades (all at the same order of auto upgrade)

[stuck pollen]

Uhh i am guessing its coz it just uses 2 autoupgrade priorities, 1 for farm and 2 for anything which does dmg, support or dps

Should use like 1 for farms, 2 for dps, and 3, 4 for supports.

[vital pilot]

Yh

Also make it so that it doesn't over ride user decisions

Eg changing priorities

Atp soon the ai will play 24/7 and it will eventually have a "let human play button" Lol

[outer elm]

huh
autoplay doesnt mess with priorities

[stuck pollen]

But if your team just has like 2 farms and 2 dps it could still work well

[vital pilot]

When you manually change priorities and it's on its puts them back to their original state

[outer elm]

im having no issues wit dat

[rapid trail]

yo max lvl ur luffy gng ✌️

[violet yew]

👀

[barren vector]

bronacho didnt see the forge devs team yet💔😭

[buoyant bough]

How we feel about this update

[fading zinc]

complete dogshit

[real flint]

Devs: Addition Of New Gamemode

Community: Hooray!

Devs: But It's Unplayable Rn Due To It Being Far Too Difficult

Community: This Update Is Terrible

Devs: To Add On To This Update We'll Be Removing Lb Infinite

Community Throws Into Rage

[obtuse inlet]

Haven’t got to playing it yet

But from what I see it’s just new story and some units to evo

[main onyx]

It's terrible to give us something that we can't even complete

What's the point of giving us content that we can't even play at the moment?

[main onyx]

No reason to remove inf lb other than them being lazy

[obtuse inlet]

It’s not meant to be completed immediately

It’s a permanent progressive endgame mode

[main onyx]

Still doesn't mean that it should be impossible

[main onyx]

Then what happens when people reach their limits? No more endgamecontent after that

[devout crown]

i guess it’d be wait for stronger units and thats it

so ultimately they didnt even fix the issue lmao

[main onyx]

Exactly

[devout crown]

you cant complete it

[main onyx]

What a dumb choice, should've just kept lb

[devout crown]

its infinite

[main onyx]

I only see 100 floors though? And the rewards should increase after 50 due to the mode being absurdly hard

[devout crown]

its infinite im in a server with someone that got to 100

[main onyx]

100 on curse right?

[devout crown]

yes

[main onyx]

At least 1 element is possible ig

Still can't make it past 100 on anything else though, unbound 2nd easiest and even with an insanely good squad we only managed to make it to 42

[devout crown]

fire seems easier

[main onyx]

Fire with no bleed unit huh 💔

[devout crown]

just dont get regen stages

[main onyx]

If you get bad rng it's over

[devout crown]

just hope you dont

[obtuse inlet]

It’s impossible right now

[main onyx]

Shibuya, aot, martial

[olive crag]

man I want to eat sum fried chicken

[devout crown]

bro completing it doesnt even exist thats why

[devout crown]

if u get unlucky four times idk what to say

[main onyx]

It forces u to play with 4 players, and if ur squad gets stuck somewhere it's over

[devout crown]

😭😭😭 guess its apart of the gamemode

[main onyx]

You could make it to floor 80 with your whole squad stuck with horrible maps

If no one else made it that far then you can't progress

That's just bad game design

[real flint]

Literally This Entire Suggestion And 4 Other Suggestion's Point

[real flint]

Thats Like With Literally 1 Monarch Reliant Seasonal Vanguard

And You Need To Know How To Use His Team In Order To Make Things Work

[shadow sand]

i mean it lasting a long time is a good thing
kinda bunz mode if it last 1-2 upds and they gotta do new gamemodes every upd

its still trash cuz its so much rng

[main onyx]

The scaling is ass as well

[shadow sand]

makes the gamemode playable for a long time

[devout crown]

the gamemode is already infintely playable

it has infinite floors

[shadow sand]

yeah but getting to very high floors easily will make the mode even harder to play with ppl

[shadow sand]

well im more keen on seeing next upd, because they said its bigger than part 1

[main onyx]

Have fun finding teammates who happen to be on the exact same floor as you

[amber furnace]

based suggestion

[zenith glacier]

They did add towers tbf and birbs are endgame sh too but yh they shoul lowk make updates harder and challenging

[fluid condor]

I think its time for me to step up and fix ts game

[rapid trail]

i prefer crafting relics in aa than grinding familiars in this game

its so boring i js gotta play 25 games of whatever

i lowk wish av had a artifact/relic system, something to grind

[real flint]

Make A New Suggestion, I Think I'll Bump That (I Only Got 1 Birb)

[rapid trail]

i also only got 1 birb (it has terrible stats and i cant reroll anymore cuz its corrupted)

[real flint]

Bump This