pls balance ainz

[ornate vortex]

what would be the point for grinding for other untits once ainz Releases

[torn raven]

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[ornate vortex]

not even all of his kit either bro

[brittle cairn]

ok and

[modest sonnet]

ppl say this every upd

[brittle cairn]

people have not even seen how his kit even functions

and are complaining about the balance

[civic spruce]

Yeah we have no idea if this stuff is gonna have requirements or how it'll work

[fringe seal]

look what you caused @hushed hazel

[hushed hazel]

they prolly havent seen mine if theyre making their own

[ornate vortex]

thats literally what im trying to say

[civic spruce]

Not rlly

You're calling for balancing before even knowing how it works

[ornate vortex]

yea

literally what you jst said

[ornate vortex]

ok

[fringe seal]

doesn't matter
both suggestions are stupid

[fast vale]

can we wait for the fucking update to come out man

[fringe seal]

wait for the unit to be avaible for everyone before throwing shit

[fast vale]

EXACTLY

[brittle cairn]

for all we know, this is like, only one choice on max upgrade a match

[ornate vortex]

what im indirectly asking for

[brittle cairn]

why are you asking for that

when that could literally be how it already works

and we just dont know

[ornate vortex]

to make sure

[fringe seal]

it is like aa ainz all over again
people are going crazy for him without knowing how his kit will work

[brittle cairn]

wait for the fucking unit to drop at least

[ornate vortex]

make the point clear yk

[brittle cairn]

People are jumping to insane conclusions

[ornate vortex]

nobody is+

[fringe seal]

please balance ainz

[lime kiln]

why do u think ainz will be able to do everything

[ornate vortex]

ourobouros

[lime kiln]

u dont even know what that does 💀

[ornate vortex]

i dont think he will be able to do everything

[brittle cairn]

"please balance ainz, this is insane, what will be the point of grinding other units"

does not know the limitations of any of the world items or how the spells even function

"nobody is jumping to insane conclusions"

[honest eagle]

Well yea everything they have shown is absolutely insane

[lime kiln]

"what would be the point for grinding for other units once ainz releases"

"i dont think he will be able to do everything"

[ornate vortex]

what we have already seen is crazy enough bro

[brittle cairn]

And? You don't think there's any sort of hefty limitations/requirements to any of his kit?

[ornate vortex]

because that would be an overstatement

[brittle cairn]

imagine you need to be at wave 50+ to use any of the world items

[lime kiln]

but ur implying he would do everything if you dont need other units and only need ainz 🤔

[fast vale]

thats what im saying

[ornate vortex]

im not

[lime kiln]

when ur saying "why get other units if theres ainz" your implying he can do everything

[honest eagle]

Ofcourse there would be but it doesn’t mean I can’t be somewhat concerned when everything they have showed is completely game breaking

[ornate vortex]

im implying he would do things just way betterthan all the other units

[modest sonnet]

where’s the trailer then

[lime kiln]

so ur saying theres still a point to get other units cause he cant do everything

[honest eagle]

That seems kinda dumb in its own right locking the strongest part of his kit behind a gamemode 99.999% of the community doesn’t touch is odd and that also ignores all of his normal spells which are also quite op

[ornate vortex]

no he just does stuff better

[modest sonnet]

shhh

[lime kiln]

[ornate vortex]

yoo guys i got glitched on my naruto

[honest eagle]

I mean he can do pretty much everything

[lime kiln]

not my point

[brittle cairn]

And the normal spells probably have limitations/requirements to them too and you can't just slap the best ones on all the time

[fringe seal]

canon ainz
letting everyone do the job meanwhile he just watch

[brittle cairn]

truuuuue

you can actually equip all his spells

but it takes one irl hour to get them all

every match

als rimuru but even more painful

[fringe seal]

my best bet is that his spells will req the player to do sacrifices

[honest eagle]

Maybe but it doesn’t mean much cuz half of his spells are super strong

[brittle cairn]

you'll probably only be able to use at most one or two

[fringe seal]

only unlocks them in upgrade 2 that cost 1m

[brittle cairn]

that's my best guess

[honest eagle]

There are 4 slots so

[fringe seal]

ainz better cost 200k to place

or just have severe requirements to unlock them

[brittle cairn]

And?

You’ll still probably only be able to use one or maybe two of those “strongest spells”

[fringe seal]

nether know how ainz will work

[lime kiln]

ye

[honest eagle]

That’s all speculation and considering there isn’t really any distinct levels between spells it seems unlikely to work that way

[lime kiln]

honestly that wouldnt be bad

[finite lichen]

may be like yamamoto

[lime kiln]

wym yamammoto

[finite lichen]

rare drop from a stage or smth and its unmacroable

[opaque saddle]

bro tried to sneak in yama

[finite lichen]

holy skuill farm we love it'

[opaque saddle]

unmacroable?

[honest eagle]

Everything is afk able

[fringe seal]

we are saying anything at it point

[finite lichen]

yep

[fringe seal]

except a job

[upbeat jolt]

did ppl afk the simon stage in als

[honest eagle]

Idk I don’t play als

[brittle cairn]

maybe i do, maybe i dont

maybe people are just hella overthinking ainz

[upbeat jolt]

nether dk shit

[brittle cairn]

and this is part of the problem

[fringe seal]

aa all over again

[brittle cairn]

people complaining about units before they even come out

[upbeat jolt]

he just talking to talk atp

[brittle cairn]

oh no i do lmao

[lime kiln]

you could i wouldnt see why u cant

[brittle cairn]

i know exactly how he works but im not gonna tell you guys shit

[upbeat jolt]

most worked on unit for nothing btw

[fringe seal]

someone pay nether so he can leak ainz passives

[upbeat jolt]

doesnt the stage attack the player

[fringe seal]

i BET he sacrifice your units

[finite lichen]

b elieve so yea

[brittle cairn]

i wouldn't do it for payment

im not that low lmao

[lime kiln]

the M could justmake u move around

[brittle cairn]

not gonna tell you if ur right or wrong tho

[opaque saddle]

nether still a tester undercover

[lime kiln]

uh huh..

[brittle cairn]

bro i wish

[opaque saddle]

go get ur job back

[brittle cairn]

I'd be down to test and offer feedback and design

[lime kiln]

why cant u get it back

[brittle cairn]

free of charge, just on volunteer schedule

[fringe seal]

awtd had one aswell and people find out how to afk it regardless if the boss target the player

[brittle cairn]

because i dont want to tbh

[hushed hazel]

probably, but if you already had simon evolved you only needed to beat it 15 times, which isn't that bad with unohana

[brittle cairn]

I want to find something more substantial than testing for av

[fringe seal]

become a arx tester

so you can gatekeep bugs and abuse them

[hushed hazel]

"brandon.. this update is UNPLAYABLE 💔" immediately gets fired

[brittle cairn]

im not touching arx again lmao

i played it on release

and then never again

[hushed hazel]

dogshit game

[upbeat jolt]

ainz is the most worked on unit for no reason i dont see why ppl
cant be upset

[hushed hazel]

was slop and somehow got even more slopified and ruined by brandons team

[brittle cairn]

brandon has to pay people for them to be considered hired

[brittle cairn]

because they want to pour quality into something for a change. But people are making baseless assumptions without even knowing anything about the unit, and it's legitimately draining to see all the time

[fringe seal]

arx balancing team making sure to make every annoying unit to get dogshit and make eto (the easiest ranger to get) meta breaking

[brittle cairn]

the community is genuinely exhausting sometimes and this is a prime example of it

[hushed hazel]

wasnt she good, turned dogshit, and buffed back up again

[upbeat jolt]

pour “quality” to disguise the slop they do every seasonal

[fringe seal]

buffed 4 times
she is better than the beyonder unit

[hushed hazel]

W balance team

[opaque saddle]

just ban everyone complaining

[honest eagle]

No one asked for insane quality people just want to play the game

[fringe seal]

i hope we get a rarity about vanguard

[foggy basin]

i mean unless it takes forever (which isnt really good balance either since it makes him only usable in certain modes which feels pretty cheap to balance a unit) to get the spells, some of them are just legitamently game breaking

i dont think giving ainz everything was a good idea, even if he takes forever to get (i personally think he's going to have a xp system to level up and unlock the spells, but thats just me), he'll just make any mode where you can get all these things trivally easy

• i feel like in 10.0 there'll be some form of long content that is made trival by ainz, since if thats his major restriction, then they'll propagate people grinding for him by that long form content

[upbeat jolt]

quality on people will never see again

[fringe seal]

can i ask you something

[foggy basin]

i dont know, i just dont think hes a well designed unit, feels like they just took a lego character and gave him a bunch of random shit to make him seem "cool"

[hushed hazel]

the quality was their idea

people wanted more consistent updates, and they delayed the update once again

[brittle cairn]

You'll see how the spells work

[fringe seal]

what if im blind

[brittle cairn]

you'll see

[hushed hazel]

i hate this question, just ask me bro

[brittle cairn]

ainz is gonna cure ur blindness

[hushed hazel]

HE CAN FIX MY EYES??

[foggy basin]

this is what im guessing

also can someone tell valk he spelled ouroboros wrong

[fringe seal]

and he will kill your family after

[hushed hazel]

ASK THE QUESTION

[brittle cairn]

well yes, but if you play av, they are immediately fried again

because we av players cannot use our eyes

[fringe seal]

should i buy him

[hushed hazel]

son, what is this 💔

[foggy basin]

lets see i guess, atm he seems like a terribly made unit that id expect in als

[brittle cairn]

I dunno, maybe you're close

maybe you're not

[upbeat jolt]

dead ahead

[fringe seal]

a strategy game

[foggy basin]

i think im close based on that response 🥀

[brittle cairn]

Could be

[opaque saddle]

nether stop gatekeeping

[brittle cairn]

Or I could just be lying as per tradition

[fringe seal]

oh my god
someone know about it

[foggy basin]

your training to be a av developer?

[brittle cairn]

My goal is to gaslight everyone I can as much as I can so that nobody will ever believe me if I do accidentally leak

[fringe seal]

you lied to me about rimuru

[foggy basin]

nether if you knew how to code you'd be a great dev

[brittle cairn]

LMAO

[weary bay]

A good like 90% of what nether said as a tester was a lie

[brittle cairn]

[fringe seal]

when we are getting a rarity above vanguard

[weary bay]

Why

[hushed hazel]

monarch rarity unit

[foggy basin]

• i think one of ainz's limits will be him having to use a black spirit/new familiar that makes his xp system actually usable 🥀

[brittle cairn]

I could deadass leak completely how ainz works and nobody would believe me

[fringe seal]

vanguards are getting boring
we want ultra vanguards

[foggy basin]

i do hope if we get another sneak, its not just putting ainz up on an even greater pedastool

if ainz is "balanced" and worse than dio, it's going to feel really shitty for most players who are expecting him to be super broken and cool based on these sneaks

[hushed hazel]

thank you nether. i saw that.

[brittle cairn]

nuh uh

i was too fast

[hushed hazel]

he doesn't know.

[fringe seal]

nether was leaking so the av bot deleted it instantly

[brittle cairn]

TRUE

[honest eagle]

Cuz u don’t know bud ur not gaslighting anyone:)

[brittle cairn]

it automodded me because it knows the kit

[hushed hazel]

so basically, ainz will be rimuru from ALS

[brittle cairn]

so true

[fringe seal]

we better get enemies that counter and kill your units

[brittle cairn]

What if I lied in that message too though

[hushed hazel]

dont play mind games on me nether, they wont work. i can see.. everything

[upbeat jolt]

why does not the one to ask always act like the mc

[brittle cairn]

can you see ainz's kit

[upbeat jolt]

not the one to ask isnt the mc bro its @hushed hazel

[brittle cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goals-are-beyond-your-understanding-reverse-flash-eobard-thawne-the-flash-gif-16637212

[fringe seal]

yet can't see that shinobu is a bum

[civic spruce]

I feel like with the scope of the shit he can do they could make his max damage like 100k and he'd still be objectively top tier for a few updates based on what we've seen

[foggy basin]

there'll be more limits, probably a system to unlock the spells directly + just spa/cost

[civic spruce]

Prolly

[foggy basin]

the menu looks pretty unfinished (atleast the version we saw), it has spelling mistakes + filler words (like summoning a goat)

[upbeat jolt]

bro his downside isnt gonna be his dmg

[honest eagle]

Even if his normal dps is bad it doesn’t matter cuz of his really strong damage spells there are probably other limits

[foggy basin]

i definitely think it will

[brittle cairn]

you think the goat is filler

[honest eagle]

What’s the point od all the damage spells then

[foggy basin]

they wouldnt give Ainz a spell that buffs his dmg by 50% if it was a high base dmg stat

[civic spruce]

He just summons a giant ass goat on the track

[brittle cairn]

ofc

[honest eagle]

I think he is just not going to attack normally only with spells

[brittle cairn]

the goat in question

[honest eagle]

Maybe not high but I doubt his dps is going to be his main weakness

[civic spruce]

Some of his spell wording talks about replacing what an attack would be so I doubt it

[foggy basin]

ew is that actually what hes summoning

[fringe seal]

looks edible

[foggy basin]

i wonder if ainz takes up two slots instead of 1

one of his world spells is dragging in another unit, maybe he randomly corrupts 1 of the units on your team at the start and the only way to bring them back is through that spell

[upbeat jolt]

no its this guy

[hushed hazel]

thats not goku

[brittle cairn]

I have no idea lol

that's literally an image of an gag character from an old MOBA i used to play

[civic spruce]

Ainz fat gimmick

[fringe seal]

would be funny if ainz passives are the ones from grand cross

[lime kiln]

they dont copy from terrible gacha games

[fringe seal]

rem passives are literally from grand cross

[lime kiln]

devs changed idiot

[fringe seal]

merlin passives are from grand cross aswell

same goes for escanor

[lime kiln]

so if enemies go out of range they burn in grand cross hih

omg trailer

tommorrow

[fringe seal]

not everything but a good amount of escanor stuff is from grand cross

[lime kiln]

like what

[upbeat jolt]

this upd looks like shit bro 😭😭😭

[lime kiln]

pink hair espada
touka
mob
ainz

[upbeat jolt]

@hushed hazel it looks like our prayers were NOT answered

[lime kiln]

that is not mob bruh

[fringe seal]

attacks animations
one ultimate form
shiny skin
bundle skin
burning units (not the same as in 7ds grand cross but the idea of that come from that game)
the hour stacks

[honest eagle]

Where is his bowl cut💔

[fringe seal]

who tf was the assasin guy

[bold lance]

Black star I think

[lime kiln]

pls tell me ur kidding

[fringe seal]

ad levels of model

[brittle cairn]

im so down to farm wl for the uma unit though

[lime kiln]

jjs copied jujutsu kaisen phantom parade because they have black flash

[brittle cairn]

stark was boring

[fringe seal]

mob is exactly like ad mob

idk what is worse
the fact thar mob looks ugly or the fact he is a limited in first place

[lime kiln]

is this the right guy

[honest eagle]

Yea I think it’s his hell form

[fringe seal]

we are adding anything at it point
it update is the most random one by far

[hushed hazel]

OH MY GOD TOMORROW

[hushed hazel]

nah listen, perona saved it

[fringe seal]

perona will be a circle slow

[hushed hazel]

im kidding i have no idea what the fuck shes doing here, at least we got one piece rep

i have NO idea who the other characters are

[fringe seal]

at it point rename the update to halloween

[fringe seal]

mob look so ass you can't even see him

[lime kiln]

loooks like a guy from dandadan

[fringe seal]

the fat guy

[honest eagle]

Isn’t that the point? It’s just not called Halloween cuz it is far past it

[bold lance]

A bleach espada, mob we think, touka and blacksta

[brittle cairn]

me using the uma character once in a blue moon because it's funny to see sometimes

[hushed hazel]

wait i forgot to fucking look at the worldlines unit, WE GOT UMAMUSUME RAHHH

[fringe seal]

that is mob
who else do physcho stuff and have that type of clothes

[honest eagle]

I thought it was sjw son😭

[upbeat jolt]

NO new gamemode

[lime kiln]

Szayelaporro, mob, blackstar (i think?), perona, and touka

[honest eagle]

It is black star

[lime kiln]

wait the wl is uma?

[fringe seal]

yea

the glue girls are the wl unit

[lime kiln]

thats cool ig

[hushed hazel]

🤨

will this be the BEST update of all time..?

[brittle cairn]

hah

you wish

[lime kiln]

yes that looks tuff

[sturdy egret]

prefiring a balance