trade logs to catch hackers

[marble pendant]

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[unique marsh]

I’m sorry for your lost of effort but I believe they won’t do restore item regardless

And I think trade log would took too many data

[lapis apex]

would take alotta data i think

[unique marsh]

Tbh, nothing is perfect and dev alr doing best as they could with current system, they still trying to fix duping issue tho

But ye, my main thought is this could contain too many data

I can’t think of better plan than such

I mean… dev know their game and we have like 50k+ Ccu average

So… you didn’t trade but your stuff lost?

[lapis apex]

they have to track through plenty of accounts each time though

this game doesnt have ingame moderators

this game doesnt have the resources of big company and tracking alts through plenty of trades seems like an incredibly unreliable system for restored

just dont give out info and only join ppl thru adding

[unique marsh]

Hacker has no life actually?💀

[lapis apex]

you did something then buddy

[unique marsh]

Like I said, your situation is really unfortunately and I believe dev could not fix it for you even if we have log

[unique marsh]

You does know hacker can still hack your account without link right?

[lapis apex]

how

name them

[unique marsh]

They can, just rarely see any of these kind doing this and even rarer doing such thing on Roblox

[lapis apex]

then name them

[unique marsh]

“Hi sir, imma hack your account and leave my name behind, have a good day”

[lapis apex]

name the ways

[unique marsh]

He ask for proof which is understandable but how tf I know how to do that…

[lapis apex]

“well theres many ways” “like what” “oh idk”

[unique marsh]

Brody so smart I can’t help him…

Oh well, lack of knowledge is bad I suppose

[lapis apex]

name the ways of being hacked without clicking anything

[unique marsh]

Back with your situation, it’s really rarely happening and you being choose in this case

I’m sorry for your lost of effort

[lapis apex]

do you notice how you cant name them?

proves my point you did something stupid and are too arrogant to admit it

[unique marsh]

Seem like people want to choose the perfect day to ruin people day

Only you tbf…

I mean

I agree they need something to protect

But your case is special

[unique marsh]

I just can’t think of a way

[lapis apex]

they wouldnt feel anything because its not hard to not get hacked

usb security key costs 30 usd btw

trading is safe just dont be an idiot

[unique marsh]

My point still stand about the data thing, it would be a cool addition if it don’t have such issue

[lapis apex]

guy’s too afraid to admit he got beamed by something dumb😭😭

[unique marsh]

I don’t think much people would use it tbh

This Chuck dude is 1970 or what?

I start to get annoy atp

[lapis apex]

are you 1970? how dumb r u to not comprehend this concept

[unique marsh]

In their eyes, it just minority aka not much people encounter such case

[lapis apex]

if you add people on roblox instead of clicking links and have a 30 dollar usd key you cannot get hacked 😱😱😱

[unique marsh]

Today is my birthday and I don’t feel like interact with your rage b@it my good sir

Can’t help with that i suppose

It happen to any game tbh, for now what you could do is change your password

Dev probably working on this issue soon or late

For now, they need to save their game first

[lapis apex]

they are worried about data because instead of just your limited units being taken your entire account can be wiped 😱😱😱😱😱😱

[lapis apex]

its not ragebait both of you are just being idiots

[unique marsh]

Being worst individual than 1970 must be a feat

Imma be honest, it’s not the main issue hence why dev didn’t working properly on RR duping yet

Main issue is lack of content

And remodel atp

Nope, just turn off the rr trade

Done

You think they didn’t do that yet? They just can’t figure out how to guaranteed prevent it

Ye but this is future stuff, they’re focus on something rn

I do hope they will working on something similar with your suggest

[tame shore]

People are soo dumb 😭

[lapis apex]

not only is this incredibly unoptimized it doesnt even fix the issue 😭😭😭

[unique marsh]

Oh ye, forgot to acknowledge about this

[lapis apex]

AND its a nonissue for functioning human beings

[unique marsh]

It didn’t fix the issue, yes

[tame shore]

“The game hasn’t updated in a month, yup…they are loosing players because of no trading security” 😂

[unique marsh]

Idk what but he got a point right there

[lapis apex]

can never come up with an actual argument 😭😭 delusional

[unique marsh]

Dev won’t do restore regardless

[tame shore]

Whole suggestion:

[unique marsh]

If the only thing this log could do, it maybe just Ban the player

[lapis apex]

no its that if they hack you and they cant get ur shit? guess what! theyll just delete ALL your units

[unique marsh]

It based on dev team tbh, based on whatever they priority

[unique marsh]

No shit Sherlock

[lapis apex]

saying no shit like you or this guy knows thats what i was talking about 😂😂😂 ur dumb ahh wasn’t even talking about it

[unique marsh]

Whatever ya say buddy

For you but not dev, in the end, they still profit from it

And aiming mainly at the actually work they priority

Unless the issue too severe

[hard slate]

thats just on u tbh like tf
ppl just gonna abuse this shit to get on refunds on trades they didnt like
oh "a hacker hacked my account and did the trade"
and u really cant prove the validity

ok but i mean the hacker could do that to make it look like a legit trade so it doesent get flagged or sum shit thought of that?
And they could be so many reasons why they dont give anything
oh giving it as a gift to a friend forgot to add stuff reasons go on

[unique marsh]

I mean what could they do? And this is different with a normal store where they could just call police
This case is they steal your stuff inside your house

Which they choose not to

You could get flag hacking and get ban from doing nothing and dev not do appeal

Unfortunately isn’t it

Which it is

[hard slate]

tbh not even denying this idea but ur reasoning for why it should be added is not valid 😮‍💨

[unique marsh]

Can’t deny that

I mean this situation you talking about AV dev which I said they won’t restore your stuff regardless

[hard slate]

i mean what tf do u want the devs to do about account security?
add a 20 digit pin thats needed before trading? bs
keep your account safe

[unique marsh]

I mean…

We have AD do same thing and it’s ass

Let’s not forget your case is rare ash

Captcha for…

Hacker?

[hard slate]

i mean hackers are still easily gonna bypass that

[lapis apex]

how

[hard slate]

how is it protecting ur account?

[hard slate]

i mean are we talking about cpatcha where u type fucking letters and shit?

[lapis apex]

if they add a 4 digit pin that locks you out from deleting or trading any units unless you put it in thats way more optimized and actually solves the issue

[hard slate]

i mean i asked what do u want the devs to do about account protection? "captcha"

[unique marsh]

Like…

[hard slate]

its cool just here to waste time icl

[unique marsh]

You does know captcha only to prevent bot right?

And how is it prevent hacker?

[lapis apex]

what the fuck is the point of this

[unique marsh]

Like I said

It only to prevent bot

Which bot can easily bypass btw

[hard slate]

ofc but they is the issue of forgetting this 4 digit pin and ppl without access to discord are fucked
how can they verify they own the account if they aint on discord cuz on discord they js check if the accounts links to the user

[unique marsh]

My question is how…

Like they can just…

You know?

Do captcha

[hard slate]

like pretty sure if the hacker/bot got enough braincells to get access to ur account captcha shouldnt be hard

[lapis apex]

if you want protection this is the easiest, safest, and most efficient way of doing it. it is on YOU if you forget the password that you typed

you can write it down anywhere easily or just remember it

[unique marsh]

Like I said, even if it’s blurry or such, it meant to prevent bot

[lapis apex]

what are the point of the captchas

[unique marsh]

Not human

[lapis apex]

wtf r u talking about

[hard slate]

i mean i do agree but they is very many problems with this ofc they needs to be an attempt limit
and its just human nature to forget this is prob the safest way
but also the most undesired way

[inner gyro]

My real question abt this suggestion is

When did the helldivers sequel drop

[lapis apex]

how is it undesirable?? you think making an ENTIRE system of mods and dev time is desirable for devs THEN the PLAYER has to wait probably hours to get a response

[hard slate]

my brother this is basic human capabillities any hacker is gonna bypass ts

[lapis apex]

what stops them from inputting it in themself

you think hackers are hacking that many people to where this stops anything

[arctic widget]

this has been the funniest coping thread to read through

[lapis apex]

hell im sure half the people using phishing links is manual 😭😭

“you clearly dont know how they work” then doesnt mention the MYSTERIOUS ways you can get hacked by doing nothing

[inner gyro]

Password guessed

[lapis apex]

2 step

[inner gyro]

Oh then there's like no way u can

[lapis apex]

and thats genuinely 1 in quintillion

[inner gyro]

U could be in a data leak and u reuse passwords

But if u have a authenticator u shldnt be

[lapis apex]

i guess? atp that constitutes stupidity

[inner gyro]

That has nth to do w passwords tho

[arctic widget]

Brother he's explaining things to you in the most simple format possible

[hard slate]

Because a no recovery password system is cheap security pretending to be smart.
Players dont wanna gamble their acces ti trading on one fucking typo
and devs dont need a whole fucking fleet of police men to do this shit just a basic recovery flow.
Acting like this system is ‘efficient’ is wild when its literally the least any dev could do is wild like how hard is it to get ppl willing to do this?

[arctic widget]

you just arent happy with his answers

[lapis apex]

i know 😭😭

[arctic widget]

😭

[hard slate]

they fucking surpass human capabilities i swear they even inventec one to deal with this captcha
but i can agree with one thing they dont follow human logic obviously

but at the same time not all fucking hackers are using scripts

[lapis apex]

first problem is easily fixed by making the password seeable when u fucking type it in and a double confirmation screen???

you’re even stupider than him
good lord

[inner gyro]

What if u don't play the game on a daily basis or leave for a month ish and forgot ur pass

[lapis apex]

the devs DO need an actual moderation team because people are idiots

[lapis apex]

put on the confirmation screen “Write your password down idiot.” or remember it. its a 4 character combo

[hard slate]

yeah sure thats true but still ppl are gonna make mistakes
as a dev u should expect all sorts of fucking ppl of iq ranges to play the game fucking stupid like this guy
who managed to get his account hacked

[eternal oxide]

"forgot ur pass" "remember it"

[inner gyro]

U could lose where uve written it

Also I doubt the av trading pass is a top priority for anyone to remember

[lapis apex]

i was joking about the remember it thing. literally just write it down on a notes app on your phone, on a discord server you own, on a physical note

[inner gyro]

People are lazy they won't be doing allat 😭

[hard slate]

u know they is still alot of shit that can go wrong that will make u lose the password

[lapis apex]

its still easily the most efficient way of stopping trade scams btw

[inner gyro]

Most efficient way is people start being smart

[lapis apex]

trading log is stupid and takes up dev time, money, and way more data

[lapis apex]

this is an easy backup for idiots as long as theyre not lazy

[inner gyro]

Idiots are lazy that's jus a fact

[lapis apex]

there are SO many places you can write a four letter code at

[inner gyro]

When was ts

[arctic widget]

AVians will never

[inner gyro]

Passwords weren't leaked unless you typed them out in the support thing

[hard slate]

i menait does help prevent scams though i feel its pretty much the opposite for the devs not to make one laziness

[tame shore]

Seriously, devs can’t do anything about people clicking on links, they could add some stuff to prevent certain items from being traded/deleted but their accounts are still gone

[lapis apex]

this is literally the most lazy and efficient way of doing things

what other ways can you stop it when they already have your account

[hard slate]

i mean they have informed plays with ts? what else could they do to prevent it?

[lapis apex]

doesnt help the links dont look like that anymore

[arctic widget]

Yeah im gonna be real with you, there's about a million ways to help prevent cases like this. Hackers can't get to you unless you just don't take safety steps first, all of which are fairly easy to meet

[lapis apex]

theyre way sneakier with it

[tame shore]

This is your average scam link nowadays

Best way to avoid scams is just not pressing any links/gifs/pictures

[hard slate]

realistically speaking not much
other than ban the user from the server which they can easily bypass with vpn and shit

[arctic widget]

Dont use suspicious websites, dont click suspicious links, dont use unsecure public networks, dont just trust suspicious messages, keep your OS up-to-date and avoid physical access as much as possible from other people

The only other method where someone can hack you without you doing something is zero-point and i highly doubt people are using that to get a few limiteds in AV roblox TD

[hard slate]

i mean realistically speaking its impossible to literally get hacked from one click of the link
the max u can literally get from pressing any scam link is the ip adress
no account info and if u see its asking u to log in thats a red flag

[tame shore]

So how did you get scammed?

[tame shore]

Yeah, pressing the link itself isn’t the main danger. Continuing to log in is the issue

[lapis apex]

they can, im not sure how but i know they can

[tame shore]

BUUTTT there are other ways for them to be able to get your cookie logs and get into your Roblox from links even if you didn’t log in

Do you remember any weird interactions you had? Or who could’ve possibly done it?

[lapis apex]

yeah so you just randomlyyy got hacked

[tame shore]

You can’t just get hacked

[hard slate]

yeah thats the main danger but i feel a sense of suspicion would be achieved at that point like is this a scam?

[tame shore]

We are talking about Roblox sadly, most people aren’t that smart. There really isn’t much anyone can do

[hard slate]

not really its impossible me and @wicked atlas (he does some computing course in college/uni)
have literally tried this shit before the only way u can get hacked in 1 click
is after u go to the website u either accept cookies or downloading and opening the file
but from clicking a link its impossible

[hard slate]

yeah unfortunately best i feel they could do was inform the players how to avoid but ppl aint trynna read man 🥱

[lapis apex]

idk ive just been told different

i mean what i said is truly the easiest and most efficient way of stopping scams after getting hacked

[hard slate]

i mean the browser ur using also depends idk much about this but enigma
said some shit if it aint encrypted properly its possible in 1 click

[lapis apex]

dev time, alot of money, player annoyance at the report system. its stupid

[tame shore]

There’ve been some instances were they could beam your pc from gifs/images. but most of the time that’s just a discord issue, your average links can’t and won’t do anything unless you continue to do what it’s asked in the link

[lapis apex]

how would they know what they traded?

[lapis apex]

howd that even work anyway

no im just saying your argument for it is also dumb as bricks

[hard slate]

pretty obvious considering why the fuck would they go thru the hustle of making a fake login page

[tame shore]

No clue how it works fully but last week many people were reporting on getting hacked from gifs and images, turns out there was an exploit that could get your info from them.

Many Roblox servers informed about it

[tame shore]

Yeah, imagine 😭

[hard slate]

wait rq did u download some sort of executor or rat? cuz i remember my friend
had the same shit happened to him with some executor called "wave"

[tame shore]

Your case is much bigger lol, God knows what else they’ve got from you

[lapis apex]

its not about how easy it is its about what it takes to maintain it genius

[tame shore]

Seriously, you shouldn’t be worried about Roblox units, someone out here has VERY important info from you and your friends/family if what you are saying is true.

[lapis apex]

honestly hes prob just bullshitting atp

ive literally never heard of a case like this before

[hard slate]

i mean yeah i doubt they would allow a game on steam with a virus
i cant really deduce the cause tbh unless im in person but very unfortunate icl

[tame shore]

There’s been cases but overall I doubt this is one of them

[lapis apex]

you can’t spell or speak english and you play roblox games at “22”

[tame shore]

One game literally hacked into your account not long ago, some cancer funding streamer lost 30k buckos from it

[lapis apex]

if its anything its 100% a rat that got him

[honest quartz]

one plus two plus three and four

five six seven eight

[lapis apex]

yeah he’s just bullshitting

[hard slate]

they have? crazy
only one i heard of was undertale where it was detected as a virus was when it deleted the game when u finished genocide
but got removed cuz it was virus but damn

[lapis apex]

hes just talking out of his ass

[hard slate]

i mean thats literally the only conclusion i can make because this are litteraly
the symptoms of a rat discord/insta getting hacked
but he denying this shit he prob downloaded a while ago and dont remember

[granite quarry]

your fault for getting hacked

[lapis apex]

hes just bsing

[hard slate]

so u telling me u somehow got hacked with that level of security?
shit sounds like an episode of jojos bizzare

[lapis apex]

hes bsing bro

[hard slate]

ik im js questioning his lies lol

[arctic widget]

Hacker got some of the heaviest fucking plot armour around

[tame shore]

Search the case, moistcritical has a video on it. Shit was insane, God knows how but that game was able to get into your wallet and steal everything from you and it was up on steam for a while.

[lapis apex]

his hacker is god bro

my theory is his brother hacked him to get him scared

[honest quartz]

what are we talking about again

[lapis apex]

we’re reading a fan fic made by @charred ruin rn

[hard slate]

Fr that shit needa be studied bro mf hacked thru a "military grade security" with no trace
this some unheard of shit

[arctic widget]

Wouldnt it be funny if he wasnt hacked and the devs are just trying to convince their players they're schizophrenic

[hard slate]

got the video name?

[arctic widget]

brother got the enigma machine working against him

[lapis apex]

he has no security and he must hack

he has no security and he must click on scam links

[thin sinew]

what would you even ban you can bypass both discord and roblox bans?

[tame shore]

https://youtu.be/BB8825V7DP4?si=n463IafopPgeqtDq

[hard slate]

enigma machine? nah mfs got an enigma factory
and still managed to get hacked 😭

[arctic widget]

😭

[hard slate]

so u telling me u have someone with military grade security
and decided not to put urself into the system? interesting

[thin sinew]

why not?

[granite quarry]

didn't a streamer that was founding for his surgery got all his money lost because of that game

[lapis apex]

dude if you have the cia’s finest on you maybe you should have the military gold damascus spec ops grade server security

[hard slate]

ait bless up imma put in the background

[tame shore]

Yes, a cancer patient lost about 30k buckos because of it

[tame shore]

🙏🏾

[inner gyro]

I advise installing a new copy of windows

[lapis apex]

i just realized wtf why does your brother even have a “military” grade sserver

[thin sinew]

why would u not do it just to be safe thats like all ur fault 😭

[lapis apex]

the fuck ❓😭😭

does everyone just have military grade servers do they sell them at best buy

[hard slate]

this is the equivalent of having the most secure vault with lazers and shit
and deciding to put ur money under a shoebox like cmon man

[lapis apex]

idk bro i dont think companies have nearly as good cyber security as our military does thats just me tho

and i sure as hell dont think he can take those “military” grade servers home

[thin sinew]

who has "military" grade protections and doesnt use it

[hard slate]

yeah sure buddy he made a millitary grade security system himself
bro this isnt doctor stone

[wicked atlas]

this is literally the equivalent of building a fighter jet in ur garage its impossible

[hard slate]

Yeah sure sure budy 100% i believe you

[hard slate]

i mean u would want to scroll up tbh to find the full lore of ts

[eternal oxide]

u still wanna know

we believe you bro

[wicked atlas]

yeah 100% like ur bro is built different able to maintain a military grade security system that would normally require atleast 35 ppl with them seperated into diff department but ur bro is different

[eternal oxide]

secret dev knowledge

[wicked atlas]

can u even fathom the type of mainteinance u need to do to have a "military grade security" but its chill we all believe u 100%

its cool homie we understand ur brother is on a whole nother different level

[eternal oxide]

pretty sure from tourney

because why would ur rerolls go from 50 to like 100k?? or they can see if u claimed it more than once

[hard slate]

probably thru purchases spent and rerolls used cuz if they do got trade logs i dont find it reasonable why it aint public

[eternal oxide]

3k isnt a lot they wont get banned for that

[wicked atlas]

how im i supposed to take u seriously tbh u have someone who has a "military grade security" and dont use i do software engineering at uni and sure i dont do much cyber security but i know how unrealistic that already is

[eternal oxide]

are u lvl 80

how have u only used 5k at lvl 205??

[wicked atlas]

yeah ur brother lied to ur ass and u ate that shit properly

[eternal oxide]

how much monarchs u got

[hard slate]

nah wdym hes saying the truth

[wicked atlas]

yeah whoopsie my bad

[eternal oxide]

had?

so someone went into ur acc?

[remote pelican]

so much yaaaaap

[eternal oxide]

u wouldnt evne get a restore even if there was trade logs

cause hes not tradeable

yeah

thats why he didnt take it

[gilded trellis]

if they went that far to get on your account i dont think they would be dumb, they would just trade them to actual players on trades

if they get the units in the market returning it to you would be impossible since you'd also be hurting the people who traded for said units

[shell crow]

hacker steals but gives away items

wouldnt it be an alt or friend

[gilded trellis]

so what does this proposes

they wouldnt trade itens to their main

what are you gonna ban, an alt? not like they dont have atleast 10 of those

what if they just give away your units

?

yeah and what would they do about it

its an alt, and they just gave your units to random people, they ban the alt, done.

What now? thats an alt. It doesnt matter.

just basic thinking bro

how does that correlate with the subject we have in hands

elaborate

thats real life, if the person gets caught theres consequences. If an alt gets banned, it doesnt matter.
Do you understand it now?

also legally wouldnt the person (or you if they found out you were the one to hire) have to pay for the pc?

??

if you're gonna just be trying to get a "gotcha!" moment in this conversation and not actually try to realize what i'm talking about, no and goodbye.

funny name for this sticker

[eternal oxide]

did he get banned

[arctic widget]

the hacker came back for round 2

[tame shore]

He did

[eternal oxide]

💔

[tame shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1354493786683605286/1414781763108208823/a5ib5b.gif

[dense stirrup]

[eternal oxide]

what he do

[lapis apex]

what happened

[remote pelican]

the op got banned

they mustve said something REAL bad

[dense stirrup]

dont worry i got this

[eternal oxide]

no i got this

@lapis apex hi can u give me pika in gpo

just found out why 😭

[gilded trellis]

bad sticker name ig

dunno, what was in it was rule breaking but i didnt ping any mods because i didnt bother doing so

[lapis apex]

why they get banned

[arctic dragon]

What did bro say to get banned

[tame shore]

Ohhhh

The trash can sticker with the microphone

Had a weird site in the name

[arctic widget]

He was spamming that shit too 💔

[hard slate]

The hacker must have done this

The hacker demolished his military grade security like cheese

[eternal oxide]

dms cus i prob cant ay it here

[arctic widget]

Brother said the first time was so good he just had to go again 😭

[tame shore]

LMAO

Guy was lying extremely hard, his dumbass definitely pressed a link and is now acting clueless

[hard slate]

this dude is fucking baffling icl this shit cant even happen in baki hanma 🤣