I do not care about One Piece Update..

[humble dove]

wasnt that always there

[foggy widget]

nah

they stayed if u sold him before

[humble dove]

eh ig its not too bad cause he has full map ts

[signal plank]

It had always been global, and I dont think dio needed a buff, so considering it's gone i think its safe to say it was just a bug and the report was just miscommunication or smth

[foggy widget]

idk we ll see

[carmine sky]

need more ways to get vanguards

the same way of grinding 3 million is repetitive

[modern raptor]

finally got ainz lmaoo

[dry cedar]

literally

[carmine sky]

yeah

it gets boring doing it 5 times

[dry cedar]

ikr

and people fall for it

like i am sure theers more ways you can get vangaurds instead of the 0.005%

atleast they updated anyways

aniz looks cool

[stiff rock]

did they do the tournament change where its randomized for each bracket?

[carmine sky]

they just like this way cuz people can actually pay robux to try for this unlike others like vsjw n broly but still they can mak eother ways that can include robux

[dry cedar]

true

[fossil vector]

nooooooo

[opaque kernel]

I got matched up with 3 lvl 700+

I am NOT winning ts

[stiff rock]

rip

[rigid stirrup]

Fwthis?

[stiff rock]

?

[real basin]

9k messages about what

[thick sand]

av devs needs to stop makin banner vanguards

more quest vanguards plz

[safe hill]

This is legit valid. People don't even feel the need of Ainz in their team (Tho he isn't THAT team supportive when it comes to some elements 🙏) unlike when Kaguya, Escanor & Broly came out the player count was fixed at 120k~ for quite a while cuz people actually felt the need of those Vanguards & on top, there's just been too much banner vanguards while no stage to even test their real strength -_-

[runic wharf]

ainz is the best character in the game

[runic wharf]

kaguya was worse than this upd and escanor did not go above 110k~

[safe hill]

Well, he is but where to even use him other than for Inf leaderboards

[safe hill]

Was still better than the only vanguard back then (Vsjw) & yeah still not bad

[runic wharf]

hes a free 7th slot

[runic wharf]

he will be used in everything

he is a free unit slot

hes one of the best supports too

[safe hill]

If they released an strategic & good mode tbf

Where all units can shine at their peak

[runic wharf]

i want it too but its never happening

[safe hill]

Welp. Sad

[runic wharf]

i jst wanted to say that ainz is the best unit ingame rn

[safe hill]

Yeah he is

[wise sky]

ainz might be the current best unit, but it still stands true that u dont need him for anything else other than competitive modes rn

as a result of this game still being too easy

[carmine sky]

extreme stages bro

go complete anni 8 if ts too ez

[wise sky]

an extreme stage that requires ainz?

or even utilizes half of his potential?

[carmine sky]

look at the thing i replied to again

[wise sky]

it’s not that difficult tbh but a missed opportunity to actually make something like it worth grinding in

[carmine sky]

bro it is difficult wym

this game ain't too easy unless ur still playing normal stages there's already endgame shit

[wise sky]

not really when it can be soloed by 1 deadeye broly

[carmine sky]

broly still needs 30 mythic+ sac to get

deadeye pity is 858 rr's which also take alot of grind

[wise sky]

i’d argue having 1 upper meta unit being able to clear a stage (even if barely) would still be not in “hard” category

[carmine sky]

he not even upper meta he's top 3 units rn bro

[wise sky]

there needs to be a farmable stage that rewards the players for investing and farming tirelessly

[carmine sky]

infinite exists i guess

[wise sky]

a decent one is the new fall infinite after the buff

not the best, but it’s better than nothing

[wise sky]

still? having 1 unit solo a whole stage does not make the stage seem “difficult” at all

[carmine sky]

with deadeye*

top 3 traits aswell don't forget

[wise sky]

its not early av where trait rerolls are impossible to get…

[dire robin]

Basically this was gen chat when upd dropped

[real basin]

i see

[modern lagoon]

vanguards are just becoming boring
there seems to be no actual requirements for a unit to be a vanguard
I'm sorry but there should be more to a vanguard than just a character being strong

in AA there were still people that wanted roger regardless of him being good just cause they liked him

who's gonna be out there actively wanting to get Kaguya if you strip away her strength

[wet sapphire]

Escanor, gogeta, broly, and SJW are all fan favorites. I know it’s not popular but Ainz is still a fairly beloved character even if he isn’t as popular as the others especially since AA exposed him to many others. I’m not a huge Naruto fan so I can’t speak for kaguya

[modern lagoon]

i'm not really talking about popularity

[wet sapphire]

Wasn’t your point using Roger that he’s popular?

[modern lagoon]

no

it's more or less about influence and creativity

[wet sapphire]

AA rare units lacked creativity, especially Roger he was a basic ground unit with a stun. The only real influence a lot of the AA units had were being unable to obtain. They had appeal solely because not many people had them

Diavolo had that appeal cuz he was rarer

[modern lagoon]

Roger wasn't really one you would expect as an event secret but is one that is a creative choice
they could've easily gone with luffy, whitebeard, shanks. roger makes it unique
Dio OH when AA did it was also unique because it was a non-canon character

alucard was unique because it was a unit we had nevr seen represented before

and Aizen was also non-canon

[wet sapphire]

Wouldn’t kaguya fall into the creative choice category? You would have thought Naruto or Madura?

[modern lagoon]

they were not just beloved, they were creative and/or unique choices

[modern lagoon]

Hashirama, actually, i can't recall we ever seeing hashirama being represented in a TD, it's a liked character, strong and unique
Kaguya, while unique, is not really beloved by fans, she doesn't have enough screentime or character

I think Diavolo, Gogeta and SJW, and maybe Broly are neat choices

two non-canon but really cool, one from a manwha and one from a movie

tho sjw was already represented, it also was pretty much the game's main guy

Escanor we've seen been done before
Ainz is pretty nice, but it's a main character
Broly i can make the argument that has been represented before

[wet sapphire]

I mean sure? I feel like this is more of a subjective take but I can see your argument. More than anything I just assume that they want to get more popular characters pushed out (either from anime fans or them being remembered from AA) because that’s what brings players in. Aside from maybe kaguya all the vanguard units are pretty iconic in the ATD genera and got large amounts of hype around them so if i was to guess most people are happy wirh what we got

[modern lagoon]

ye i'm answering very much on a subjective basis

[wet sapphire]

I’d love to see more under represented characters get more love but the last time that happened to a series I loved the community almost burned the devs alive

[modern lagoon]

i think there are more creative choices that would also allow for more creative abilities and representation of animes that while not mainstream, are still beloved

at least for event vanguards

[modern lagoon]

i'm curious, which was it

guilty gear?

[wet sapphire]

I think event banners are the perfect space to be more experimental with unit choices. I think you can even pull off not very know characters in a way that gain interest like how I got into madoka due to AA

[wet sapphire]

Yuh lol

[modern lagoon]

blame roblox players for only playing roblox for some reason

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-steam-drake-teaching-meme-gif-24494590

[wet sapphire]

And better yet they went and killed my elphelt before I even got the chance to get shiny monarch

[modern lagoon]

i'm still trying for shiny

then i'll go monarching

[wet sapphire]

I took me 2 weeks loll

[modern lagoon]

and i say trying in the very literal meaning

[wet sapphire]

As a shiny hunter I’m so glad I can shiny transfer now I was begging for it for ages

[wet sapphire]

It took me around 68

[modern lagoon]

i don't have shiny hunter

so

[wet sapphire]

Don’t have anything to trade up for it?

[modern lagoon]

ye

but without a proper value list i find trading pretty meh

[wet sapphire]

That’s totally valid, I would invest in it especially while anni event is live

[modern lagoon]

could this get me one

[wet sapphire]

I think this would be an overpay for shiny hunter

[modern lagoon]

i can imagine

[wet sapphire]

Tbh I haven’t looked at trading values since it first came back cuz the only thing I wanted was diavolo and I got it for cheap

[modern lagoon]

i'll get onto trading to get a diavolo once i can actually know what i'm doing

[wet sapphire]

My friend has been trying to trade up for one for a while with no lucky so far if you get around to it I hope you good luck

[heady pulsar]

So sad that we will probably never see someone GG related again 😭

Probably the most interesting and unique units from any update

All because of Roblox kiddos not knowing them

[modern lagoon]

honestly that should have been an event

[wet sapphire]

No cuz event units are bad LOL

[modern lagoon]

the discourse would have been WAY more positive

[heady pulsar]

They fit the PvP theme, I think they were a perfect choice for the update

[heady pulsar]

Yeah, if it ain’t the vanguard or the secret. They will suck

[humble dove]

does he care about ainz

[heady pulsar]

Ainz is a cool pick as a vanguard for me tho, he is pretty cool

And let’s be honest, aside from him and albedo are there more fan favorite overlord chars?

[wet sapphire]

Ramlethal, Jack-o, Nagoriyuki, Potemkin, testament

[modern lagoon]

being very fr i could not bring myself to finish overlord and i'm a solo leveling fan my standards are NOT high

[wet sapphire]

As an overlord glazer we ALL want cocytus

[heady pulsar]

Oh what have we lost 💔😔

[heady pulsar]

He would be cool

[split carbon]

Shalttear, Touch me, Demiurgo

[modern lagoon]

don't mind if i do

none of these really fit as vanguard tho

[split carbon]

Overlord kinda deserved a own update, but what do I now

[heady pulsar]

You only really see praise towards Ainz and Albedo, the others are not as popular if you look in the grand scheme of things

[modern lagoon]

i heavily prefer how AA did ainz, the grind made the unit feel special

[heady pulsar]

Hell no, worst grind of my life

Me and my friends genuinely cried 😭😭😭

[thin canyon]

Just sacrificing 3 units?

[heady pulsar]

6 hours spent and we only had enough mats for 1 unit each 😭

[modern lagoon]

having to replay the same event over and over again ain't really that different

[heady pulsar]

I felt hollow

[split carbon]

AA Nostalgia is at it again

[thin canyon]

Yea but ainz obtainment was lame, just bad rates

[heady pulsar]

AA doesn’t deserve a single praise 😭

[modern lagoon]

having to gather the other units to get ainz was a nice take, it just was exectuted horrribly

honestly i'm amazed AA stood atop for so long with how damn time consuming it was

[split carbon]

The only thing I remember being better then we have currently on ATD is matchmaking

[modern lagoon]

even though they had very good ideas once in a while

[wet sapphire]

I went from blindly loving AA to blindly hating AA

[modern lagoon]

i always hated it but i can say they had their moments

[thin canyon]

Would be like 90% macro leeches if we added it🔥

[heady pulsar]

And even that went to shit because you could get paired with low levels 😭. It was an auto loss if you had more than 2 level 15s in your team

They were there just to leech with their mangros

[heady pulsar]

It didn’t have any competition, it only had ASTD against it and you know how terrible those devs are at decision making

[modern lagoon]

i feel like AV devs were looking straight at the ainz grind when deciding the evolution method for sjw

[heady pulsar]

That was another terrible fucking grind, I hated every part of it. Some lucky souls skipped the 50 kills 😒

[wet sapphire]

I can’t wait to do it for the third time when I finally get shiny 🥲

[spare jacinth]

should have been 100 kills

[spare jacinth]

the shiny is really shit ngl

the base model is better

[wet sapphire]

I need to do it for the collection

I like the armor more too

[heady pulsar]

I think you can transfer it now from the mythic version

[spare jacinth]

is good the fact you can't do that

[copper star]

i dont care about ainz

cuz right onw i am hyyypeeer

[summer spear]

The difference in quality between vanguards has to be studied. A year ago we got Diavolo/Gogeta, those 2 do not come close to what Ainz is, yet all 3 units are considered vanguards

[agile zephyr]

Diavolo was also made by entirely separate people
Gogeta was the first vanguard made by the new team, where stabilizing the game the testing the waters of what to do with vanguards was more important

[summer spear]

That's fine, just pointing out how far vanguards have come since their initial debut

[agile zephyr]

Well yeah

It’s called experimentation and development

There’s not much to study

[summer spear]

I mean there are some flaws with it, for example giving the only redeeming factor gogeta had to a vanguard familiar was interesting, diavolo being the only unit with a unique timestop that pushes back enemies or was it called confusion, I don't remember being his only redeeming factor but his cost and low DMG holds him back

[agile zephyr]

Diavolo was also designed “to not be meta and just be a trophy unit” when he was immediately meta for inf lbs from release

Also what do gogeta and vanguard families have to do with anything, he never got one

He was just the standard strong unit with a unique gimmick for the time he was released

[summer spear]

Gogetas only redeeming factor to use him was his cheap initial placement and ability to be anywhere on the map right? Well they gave that to obito, a unit with effectively the same DPS after his DMG buff, the ability to be anywhere on the map and once placed no cost to replace and costs less to max. That's what I meant by they gave gogetas only redeeming factor to use him to a vanguard familiar

[summer spear]

His gimmick stayed unique as you could control it unlike Kaguya and Katakuri who were chase units. Obito effectively killed Gogetas viability as a vanguard

[agile zephyr]

Gogeta’s teleport is also a fairly simple and one-dimensional gimmick that’s very easy to just give to another unit, especially, what, 10 updates after gogeta dropped?

Again, he was the first of a new team, testing the waters, with a feature that wasn’t quite what the vanguard bar was going to be at that point

Gogeta’s gimmick is so incredibly bland and simple that it’s honestly a surprise it took that long to get a unit who can reposition at will like that

And even then, Gogeta’s still a fairly viable unit with the support of the other gogeta unit

[summer spear]

That is a hot take for sure, last I checked, the other gogeta only capitalizes on crit. And the optimal team for that gogeta is monarch gogeta blue, DBZ units with deadeye and multiple placements, a farm and say Griffith because of the insane value he provides

[agile zephyr]

The other gogeta also gives him 50% crit and a 25% cost reduction

[summer spear]

So goes down 140-150k in terms of cost, and if the clone is still bugged to not receive the damage boosts the main gogeta has that crit buff is quite ineffective

[agile zephyr]

Clone has always gotten the buffs

It just doesn’t visually show on the card

It uses the same exact stats of the main body though

Clone being bugged was just a misconception that got spread around 🥀

[summer spear]

Has the spa issues with clone been fixed too if you know? Since we're talking about the clone and how it works

Where if the spa was below 5.3 the clone would just skip out on attacking and would attack every other time

[agile zephyr]

[summer spear]

Cinema

[agile zephyr]

No idea on that, but I never saw anything like that

All I said was that I know clone has never visually received the buffs, because it never needed to. It’s worked off main body’s stats for ages now.

[summer spear]

Feel free to test it if you want, if it doesn't happen, then it's been fixed, and either way doesn't really matter there's better units in the game

[summer spear]

I personally didn't know about the crit part

[agile zephyr]

I mean, yeah, I could go farm an obito and his VF, but then I’d have to roll on him to make him worth running

And atp id rather just use my gogetas

[summer spear]

Here's going into the economics of the game, do we got the time and energy to farm the rrls necessary for the monarch. And with game as easy as AV, you most definitely don't have too

[agile zephyr]

Almost every VF is not really worth getting if you’re not getting monarch on the unit

[wise sky]

still unfortunate that gogeta will fade away with time, while more well-designed vanguards that came after him will stay relevant with their own unique gimmicks

with how ainz is designed, u could not give him a buff for 3 whole years and he’d still be meta

[fossil vector]

good

Vanguard units should be a investment with the time you put in to get the unit

[stiff rock]

I do not care about One Piece Update..

changed title

[agile zephyr]

alright

mods can this thread now, he ruined it

[stiff rock]

gonna keep changing the title every single update until devs get the picture

[agile zephyr]

What picture bro

😭 mans is fingerpainting a picture here

[humble dove]

hes showing you the picture and you still cant see it??

[fossil vector]

can we ban this guy bro please

[spare jacinth]

nether you blind, the picture is right there

[novel moth]

GEAR 5

[narrow badge]

It better be gear 4 🙏

[viscid lynx]

did this get edited

[humble dove]

yes

[viscid lynx]

he’s spitting

[cloud parrot]

It’s a beautiful day ✌🏾😎

[tropic fog]

what do you care about

[modern raptor]

crying bro changed the title

[finite meadow]

LMAAO WHY BRO

[fluid warren]

We DO care abt the one piece upd 🥹

[stiff rock]

did u guys even read the suggestion bro 🤦‍♂️

lmfao gonna keep editing the suggestion until the devs stop with slop

[finite meadow]

Im not going back to the first message here bro

I read the first one about ainz ofc idk if you changed it or not

[stiff rock]

learn to use discord its not hard to go back to first message

[finite meadow]

I know

I'm just lazy

[stiff rock]

if u have energy to respond u could easily look at the first message i just changed a few words in the first like 2 sentences.

[smoky eagle]

ngl its very rare for one person to create a change instead of a movement so gl

n i doubt there would ever be a movement because all of us eat up yummy slop

[vivid quail]

what do we even care about

[stiff rock]

stuff that isnt slop

[viscid lynx]

one piece update has potential not to be slop

but only time will tell🤔

[stiff rock]

we will see

[viscid lynx]

will

[stiff rock]

i doubt it though

[viscid lynx]

i hope the reason the past 4 updates were filler is because this upd is legendary

[vivid quail]

banner upds are generally slop other than that most upds arent

[finite meadow]

Why do you want me to even look it at bro idc abt it much tbh

[hidden prairie]

Vanguard’s needs to optimize their game before update 10 i cant even load into planet namek with all the settings and graphics all the way down

[stiff rock]

bro ur the one who keeps talking about it im just pointing out that if u have the space of mind to keep typing responses about it u could read it

[finite meadow]

Yeah I'm not gonna read it

[stiff rock]

4 replies about the same thing sounds to me like u want to read it since ur so hyper focused on it

[finite meadow]

So why don't you care about the one piece update

[stiff rock]

cuz it probably gonna be the same old slop that u clear in one day and then just go back to mangrow

[finite meadow]

Yeah peak update

[stiff rock]

yeah "peak" for slop anime td standards

[ebon kelp]

Why does the title suddenly change lmao

[hidden snow]

he's trying to pull a fast one

[split carbon]

The title is true tho

[opaque kernel]

Of course its a bleach pfp

[opaque kernel]

Probably is a strong word here update aint even out

[heady pulsar]

Yeah exactly, I know that the past updates have been “slop” for the majority but judging something that is unreleased not knowing if it will fix said issues or diverts from the previous formulas is kinda unfair and dumb in a way.

[signal plank]

It's getting closed in a day

Also where's the actual "suggestion", if you think something is slop then provide an idea for something that isn't 😭

Define a stage that isn't slop, is fun, and is feasible

[nova wharf]

One peace has aura it's so good

Dawg why y'all carolining me

[opaque kernel]

Twin lowkey delusional

[nova wharf]

Ig I just gotta accept the truth

One peace is so bad guys

[signal plank]

"I do not care about one piece" is also just not the majority opinion, haven't people been begging for this shit since release

[nova wharf]

It has no aura fr fr

[nova wharf]

How is objectively untrue

It's his opinion 🥀

[signal plank]

Yeah i realized thats stupid 2 seconds after i sent it

[opaque kernel]

One piece peak

[signal plank]

I just cannot find the suggestion in this whole thread though. What is a "non slop stage", a stage you can't afk? Because that's just impossible to make. "A stage that is a fun grind" it'll be fun the first 10 times and then you'll be complaining again, there's no "always fun" grind. A difficult stage isn't ever received well either so that's not feasible

What even is a stage that isn't slop by your definitions in this entire genre😭

[split carbon]

theres a reason why we got a bleach update before OP

[opaque kernel]

That doesn't mean jackshit 😭😭😭

[willow geode]

Because tybw was airing lol

[split carbon]

let's not act like egghead wasn't also airing for the entirety of AV existence btw

[opaque kernel]

One piece is always airing brotatochip

But ur logic just sucks ass

[split carbon]

The truth is right there, Bleach is better then OP because of it.

[opaque kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-spongebob-spongebob-meme-patrick-meme-dumb-patrick-gif-9974665538168463324

[split carbon]

ad hominem

[opaque kernel]

So dandadan is better then bleach

[split carbon]

yes

[opaque kernel]

😭😭😭😭😭 dumbass logic

[opaque kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-s-patrick-patrick-star-bottle-dumb-gif-1741625486363070335

[split carbon]

best argument you have is spongebob reaction gifs... Smartest op fan.

[opaque kernel]

Bro u said dadnadan better then bleach what's there to have an argument about

[split carbon]

Again, strawman fallacy

[willow geode]

The hype part of egghead is going on now

[opaque kernel]

Ur tryna sound smart

Deep down I have never seen a person with worse takes ever

[split carbon]

ur too dum dum to understand me is what you're saying

[willow geode]

Also the devs prolly don't like op and that's why they waited so long

[split carbon]

yes, most people don't

[willow geode]

Most popular anime/manga btw, so i would say people that don't like op are a minority

[split carbon]

popularity = good, smartest op fan again

[willow geode]

You said "most" are you dumb?

Smartest bleach fan

[split carbon]

op fans can't argue without their ad hominems, smh

[heady pulsar]

I feel like the word “slop” just gets thrown around without fully knowing the meaning of it 😭

It’s the buzzword of the month

[split carbon]

stop with your commentslop

[heady pulsar]

😭😭😭

[signal plank]

Right..

[heady pulsar]

Complete contrary of how AV operates

[signal plank]

We got a bleach update before OP because OP had presence on roblox, the 1 proper OP character that got added had to get fully remodelled. Now that they have to remodel everything anyway, may as well

[heady pulsar]

Don’t even get me started with how bad the “official” OP game was 😭

Almost all content regarding OP had to stop because of fear of getting a strike because of that game 😭

[signal plank]

Same for the MHA one tbh

[heady pulsar]

Calling it a game is a stretch too, now I know why Roblox renamed them to experiences

[heady pulsar]

Yeah, we will probably never see a MHA game again because of fear

Especially with gamefam still being active on their game

[stiff rock]

until they changed the theme of the update to gamemode update or drop some gamemode sneaks I will forever remain skeptical.

[opaque kernel]

Fair enough

[cunning gyro]

Mf deadas changed suggestion name from ainz to ts

Holy L son

[split carbon]

is he wrong 😂

[cunning gyro]

No bro yall are brain fried babies

[earnest sand]

If you dont like the entire td genre dont play it

[spare jacinth]

i don't care about mythic sanji

[earnest sand]

You cant blame av bc u dont like the genre anymore

Just dont play it

[stiff rock]

tester is saying this

shocking!!

[split carbon]

he said that we shouldn't play av

[stiff rock]

u literally get paid to play the game so u can play the same thing over and over cuz they paying u and not complain. but for the rest of us we want to have fun playing the game

[earnest sand]

I am probably the most vocal about the issues with the game

[split carbon]

truth nuke

[earnest sand]

but its ok

bc u cant see any of that

but dont assume im a yes man

ok?

[stiff rock]

then why u main such a brain dead comment if u read the suggestion u would not have said this

[earnest sand]

i stopped reading here bc clearly you dont like the genre as a whole

[agile zephyr]

Because the genre is oversaturated and it's okay to admit that the games just aren't fun and it's okay to just take a break

[stiff rock]

congrats on reading he first sentence

[earnest sand]

"anyone else getting the fps game fatigue rn"
"Grrrr i was only talking about valorant"

Sun

[stiff rock]

if i did not like the game i would not have made actual critiscms on it later on in the suggestion. complimenting additions they made before like odyssey and asking for additions/ improvements.

but u too brainrotted to get that far I understand

[earnest sand]

"Other games that succeed over a long period of time have ingrained a solid system of replay ability that keeps the player engaged" what anime td has even near the longevity of av

and dude stop insulting me 😭

im litearlly on your side

ad hominem one trick

like in 2 clicks i can close your suggestion

[stiff rock]

how are u making this argument in the midst of a near 50% drop in player count from previous updates are u ok?

[earnest sand]

1 more ad hominem im closing the suggestion

we are on the same side your points are just bad

[stiff rock]

id report u then for abusing privilege

[agile zephyr]

[golden fern]

as much there is this many issue in av, av is still the best td and prob has the best future compared to like anything related to atd on roblox

[earnest sand]

"Hey i was insulting this guy in a suggestion and he closed it"

[earnest sand]

your only good point was no hard content

which was solved this update

[agile zephyr]

i dunno about solved

[earnest sand]

or at least addressed

[agile zephyr]

LTM sitting with like 30% clear rates after a couple days of the event

[stiff rock]

yes man

[earnest sand]

why are you reacting to that

is a hard grind not exactly what ppl have wanted

optimizing your teams with meta units yields more rewards

[stiff rock]

no

[earnest sand]

okay

so then

what exactly

[stiff rock]

annoying does not equal hard

[earnest sand]

huh

theres no modifiers in the infinite

[golden fern]

ltm was def a first attempt to fix the issue but lets face it its still is too easy if you have like over 34 monarchs and a bunch of other people with some aswell

[earnest sand]

im talking about the inf

[stiff rock]

bro the infinite gamemode isnt even hard

[earnest sand]

ok so get to wave 1000

[stiff rock]

i got to wave 150

[earnest sand]

yea and thats low

[agile zephyr]

LTM's problem was lacking charm and explanation for people to learn and adapt to the difficulty, but at the end of the day, difficulty is hard to nail in a gacha numbers game

[earnest sand]

you can easily get to wave 200+ with optimized teams

which is exactly my point

the mode is hard in that the more you optimize the more you go

[stiff rock]

u said wave 100

[golden fern]

yeah specially theres so many factors like familiars and stats ect

[earnest sand]

I said 1000

[stiff rock]

u cant be serious that isnt even possible

[agile zephyr]

But why does that matter? mid 100s are fine to get to considering the leaves dont scale past 100

[earnest sand]

ok so it is hard?

[stiff rock]

and even if it is it would take like 12 hours

[earnest sand]

ok so

is it hard or no

bc u said its not hard

but now your saying you cant go to wave 1000

[stiff rock]

bro are u slow fr

[agile zephyr]

I'm gonna be real, that argument aint really making sense

[earnest sand]

i literally cannot even being to see the argument your trying to make

how

[stiff rock]

what type of argument is that

[earnest sand]

hes saying its not hard

buthe cant go to wave 1000

you cannot call an infinite "not hard"

bc there is no ceiling

[agile zephyr]

The inf isn't really that hard, because it's an inf. There is no goal except what you set

[earnest sand]

it will always be hard

[golden fern]

the thing is inf isnt something you can take as "hard" content

[agile zephyr]

Trying to push as far as you can is "hard"

which is really just a matter of how much luck you got with units to set up a team

[golden fern]

lb infinite runs isnt hard it mostly is time wasting and rng depending on your boss spawn

[agile zephyr]

But there's no LB, no stakes, no difficulty in pushing the inf mode except for what you personally set

[stiff rock]

alright then i have something for you try to beat act sand village act 6 with rare luffy

[split carbon]

[stiff rock]

its hard right? boom hard content issue fixed

[golden fern]

but then again you dont get rewarded for it so

[earnest sand]

not even remotely the same argument

[agile zephyr]

didnt people literally do the whole game with rare luffy on release

or at least the prog stuff

[stiff rock]

no xd

[golden fern]

just make a ultra hell gamemode where if you have at least 20+ monarchs you can access it and if you have under get the baby mode where you get all monarchs with less rewards

[agile zephyr]

Either way, the whole argument is pointless

[stiff rock]

so have ur game open for 10 hours straight in an infinite gamemode fixes the hard content issue are u serious bro?

[split carbon]

Creating a team for infinite does need critical thinking and engage in the games mechanics, in of itseslf it engages with all game mechanics

[earnest sand]

I literally corrected myself and said addresses

[agile zephyr]

I've spoken out on the game's flaws before too, but some of them are just doomed from the roots with how far the game's gotten

[split carbon]

You have to play pretty well to get to that point

[stiff rock]

bro there are many things in the game that "adress" hard content issue and the new infinite isnt even the best one so why even mention it just sounds like u trying to glaze.

[signal plank]

What does this even mean

[golden fern]

and lets be honest hard content doesn't touch most of the playerbase if we are talking from a money/player stand point it is better making everything easy so there is more player retention

[agile zephyr]

I wonder if it's possible to do a sort of "dynamic difficulty" system

Where difficulty is scaled to the types of units/traits your team has

[golden fern]

kinda why escanor event was so popular you legit boot the game and get escanor after 2-3 days

[split carbon]

imagine something like, choosing difficulty before a match starts, crazy really

[stiff rock]

elemental confluence was the best addition they added to adress difficult content issue. 1. reasonably hard 2. requires utilization of various different units not just one carry. 3 not annyoing or tedious to do (just a few attempts and you have gotten the reward)

[golden fern]

it would be kinda hard because if lets say you have 10 monarchs and half of them are rare units off banner and you get scaled off hard ehhh

[signal plank]

People choose the max difficulty and then complain about about not being able to clear the stage

[agile zephyr]

Im gonna be real, that's just not a good route either

For exactly the reason enderian said

[signal plank]

Yeah and point 3 is exactly why it cant be the main content from an update

10 runs and youre done what next 💀 "no content in the update"

[agile zephyr]

It's a start that's better, but players will still complain about the high end not being possible when that's the entire point

[golden fern]

also elemental confluence having some horrible element like water or passion from a new player they cant get uma, nor valentine vf how are they supposed to beat i

[agile zephyr]

Modulation is just an inherently flawed system, and that's why I was proposing the idea of an automated dynamic difficulty

[stiff rock]

people misuse the idea of hard content so bad bro. it does not just mean make things more annoying for the average player. All we want is an interesting gamemode that is replayable and can incentivize the collection/utilization of different units.

[signal plank]

This DOES NOT exist

[split carbon]

Elaborate

[agile zephyr]

^

unless you mean the dynamic system

[stiff rock]

cuz rn they just keep adding units that do a buch of cool shit on units and are really strong but there is little reason to use them if you dont do inf lb or tournament

[signal plank]

"I want a gamemode that isn't tedious or an afk feat, but is rewarding and replayable, is enough content for multiple weeks, is clearable with blitz units but is challenging for monarchs"

[earnest sand]

Andrevious could make that

[split carbon]

we will be getting a new EX stage next update, hopefully they make something fun

[golden fern]

it doesn't matter if it annoys the avg player im talking from a dev stand point, would you rather make more money and make 90% of the playerbase happy or spend time making something hard so the 10% are happy aswell

[earnest sand]

ex stage turned chud after aot

[signal plank]

Ong

[stiff rock]

yes but take out the last part

[earnest sand]

Tell me why 1 unit from the previous update was soloing the ex stage

[signal plank]

Yeah im sure a stage that takes monarchs is gonna be received exceedingly well

[split carbon]

first time this sentence was ever been said

[golden fern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1322811300555788301/1426762094958608406/attachment.gif

[signal plank]

Forcing traitless is also just a crutch

[split carbon]

i hate traitless on my soul

[signal plank]

It's true 😭 berserk ex is a fucking joke

[earnest sand]

aot ex was SO easy bro

[split carbon]

"turned chud" 😭

[golden fern]

kaguya alone can solo it with her nuke

[signal plank]

I think blinded was just a dumb mechanic

[teal verge]

“I do not care about one piece”

🤖TRANSLATING🤖

I’m a lifeless chud who’s begging for attention and stars

[earnest sand]

i mean its fine but forcing it on casuals was bad

just add that shit only to tourneys and its ok

[split carbon]

stop dissing we chuds

[stiff rock]

its not 10 percent its like 50% bro u see the player count use ur damn brain bro there is a reason why people did not return to the game. 1 is because of how long the wait is but another is because of lack of content game literally dropped 20k players from 60k about a week after the update dropped holy so stupid

[earnest sand]

no need to make these poor guys with 5 evolved units have their units on 0 range

[teal verge]

it’s ok i’m a tuff chud

[crystal coyote]

[teal verge]

hi big P

[earnest sand]

sin of pride bro

[earnest sand]

Stop insulting people 😭

[crystal coyote]

hi big A

[earnest sand]

i guarntee we all agree that the game is not good rn

[split carbon]

fits his name, ig

[teal verge]

btw this was a guy who thought hiei and monarch luffy tech was real

[earnest sand]

but you are constantly insulting ppl

[naive bluff]

if @earnest sand doesn’t like the suggestion then yk u made a good job!

[signal plank]

The game peaked at an update you're calling bad slop, ccu does not support with your argument

[stiff rock]

Kamu1 top glazer oat

[earnest sand]

ok

what more can i say

[agile zephyr]

hey

wtf

[urban wedge]

escanor is still relevant btw 😭

[teal verge]

GROWN ASSMAN TALM BOUT HEY

[agile zephyr]

i lose tester and im no longer top glazer of the game

pmo

[earnest sand]

i word for word told you that we ALL (INCLUDDING MYSELF) dont think the game is good

[split carbon]

ur not adele

[earnest sand]

and u still call me a glazer

[topaz ember]

satire the video not even mine

[signal plank]

Hes agreeing with you smartass😭

[stiff rock]

wym peaked? where u even there it was at like 70k

[urban wedge]

oh lol

[teal verge]

wdym i love my eventslop!!! 😡😡😡😡😡

[fossil vector]

All they gotta do is
Make a Weekly game mode where there are 4 team presets and 4 Hard stages and each stage takes one of your team presets if that make sense

[stiff rock]

and now it dropped down to 40k

[split carbon]

Update 9 was the biggest slop and it had like, 150k

[signal plank]

I'm obviously talking about anniversary which was braindead than 9.5 if anything but yeah

[teal verge]

5x odyssey rewards and we have content

[fossil vector]

no

[teal verge]

not content but shit to do

[fossil vector]

that gamemode is to slow to be rewarding and fun

[earnest sand]

Mee see tester role, me assume they glaze 🧌

[boreal walrus]

even 20x wouldnt convince me to play that shitty mode

[agile zephyr]

i still wanna know how people called berk upd good, that was just as boring 😭

[golden fern]

and whos going to play odyssey... no one!!!

[stiff rock]

now how much did it have a week later

[split carbon]

Odyssey and PVP are so underrated on our soul

[teal verge]

i’d play it if it has good rewards

[obsidian swan]

give us paragon

[earnest sand]

bc it took 3 weeks

[paper basalt]

What about 21x

[earnest sand]

also it wasnt good

[fossil vector]

the units where super unqiue

[teal verge]

i enjoy the mode just sucks spending 5 hrs for 15 phoenix shards

[signal plank]

Another crutch, not allowing you to use your own units and forcing a team on you. Ion really like concepts like these

[split carbon]

better then most updates still

[boreal walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/todo-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-25016334

[earnest sand]

berserk update was clearable in like 5 hours

it was not at all a good update lol

[signal plank]

Above 100k actually

[teal verge]

guts and griffith quests were laughable

[agile zephyr]

gave me time to play other games

[earnest sand]

berserk performed well bc it had good hype

and wasnt 6 weeks

and just came off the back of escanor update

[teal verge]

Son

[split carbon]

it had good units and it wans't total slop like vanguard banner

[boreal walrus]

if 8.0 - 8.5 had the same waiting time as 9.0 - 9.5 it would be said as one of the worst updates

[earnest sand]

it literally have everything going for it other then the update itself being good

[earnest sand]

100%

[stiff rock]

basically change some of the cards a bit and change the u team rotation thing (basically make it like ultimate clash in dokkan battle) and also change the scaling cuz the maps are too easy now and yes it works

[earnest sand]

and vice versa

[agile zephyr]

am i wrong

[teal verge]

nah

[earnest sand]

if 9.5 took only 3 weeks it would have got 100k+ ccu

[signal plank]

How are legend stages any less slop than 9.5, legit explain

[earnest sand]

easily

[split carbon]

[signal plank]

If we're calling everything slop then how is any stage in the game exempt

[fossil vector]

how long did it take

[stiff rock]

almost a 50% drop in player count

[boreal walrus]

6

[paper basalt]

5 weeks idiot

[teal verge]

atds are just inherently slop it’s all really about the first day enjoyability

[golden fern]

isnt the problem mostly dev related I swear they switch half of their dev team every upd

[mighty mortar]

6 or 7

[signal plank]

I dont think 150k to 100k is a 50% drop💀

[paper basalt]

Wait
Anni: 7 weeks
Ainz: 6 weeks

[stiff rock]

almost dumbass

[earnest sand]

Yes it is bc they lost 50k

[fossil vector]

yes it is

[teal verge]

these stupid ass devs couldn’t even order the 67 joke right

[signal plank]

1+1 is almost 3

[paper basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/brucedropemoff-deo-ballhog-dance-dancing-gif-5819835315624814512

[earnest sand]

50k = 50% You just swap the letter and symbol

[earnest sand]

Dude please

[teal verge]

1+1 = 11

[earnest sand]

stop being so insufferable

you just insulted him bc he corrected you for saying 1+1=3

like really think about that

before you reply

[fossil vector]

YOOOO

[stiff rock]

33% drop i player count within a week is significant

[signal plank]

Thats tech

[teal verge]

sin of pride you could write a suggestion as good as yelfiee speed luffy skin but since you’re insufferable nobody will like it

[paper basalt]

?????

[fossil vector]

so smart

[golden fern]

what is keyholder even supposed to mean

[urban wedge]

not really that drop goes for like 90% of games

[fossil vector]

idk but buff it

[teal verge]

Ruler of vanguards.

[signal plank]

8.0 cipher

[stiff rock]

not within a week

[split carbon]

ALS lose this after a day of updating

[earnest sand]

this is like civil war we all want the game to do good

[earnest sand]

check any other td game

[paper basalt]

No I don’t

[teal verge]

t is not this serious

[fossil vector]

add reinhard vangaurd and this game is good

[earnest sand]

100% they have similar drops

dont insult me for disagreeing

[stiff rock]

yes exactly cuz all td games copy the same slop strategies thats why im asking for something different

[earnest sand]

PLAY A DIFFERENT GENRE

[teal verge]

there is nothing different that works

[split carbon]

don't diss bloons tower defense

[teal verge]

this is just what atds are and if u can’t accept that then stop playing

[earnest sand]

“GRRR I DONT LIKE TOWER DEFENSES, AV DO SOMETHING NEW!”

[golden fern]

add johnny and gyro vf and the game will rise to 800k and have an "admin abuse"

[paper basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/marlon-fooled-the-internet-gif-11218989282434547480

[fossil vector]

av strategies are fun

[stiff rock]

bro like i dont already im not even playing the game idiot

[fossil vector]

till update 7.5

[split carbon]

you just can't help yourself oh my lord

[earnest sand]

what did i say earlier

[fossil vector]

idk

[teal verge]

gg ex difficulty with aot rewards trust

[agile zephyr]

ALS losing half its players literally the next day after an update

[spare jacinth]

how to kill your game in one update

[stiff rock]

mb lemme chill out

[earnest sand]

Wow they lost 90% of their players

[fossil vector]

smoking

[split carbon]

Update six was the best update aside from bugs.

[teal verge]

they only lost 20% tho?

[urban wedge]

i mean lowk does als count its js litearlly the same exact updates with no changes lol

[golden fern]

they lost 20% of their player base 40k to 20k dude

[teal verge]

this is a fact lowkenuinely

[agile zephyr]

50k to 25k

is 50%

[willow geode]

Av be like:

[fossil vector]

no

[signal plank]

Most live service games do tbh, ofc its more noticeable on roblox but a 20% drop in playercount a week after a new content drop isnt that shocking

[paper basalt]

that’s 25%

[spare jacinth]

itadori is killing the playerbase with his passives

[teal verge]

25% decrease

[urban wedge]

not as much as als

[fossil vector]

its 25%

[agile zephyr]

i hate suggestions

[stiff rock]

wym "aside from bugs" the update was bug the main gamemode didnt even function properly

[split carbon]

it's 25%, hope this helps!

[earnest sand]

how

oh pvp

[teal verge]

content wise good, animations and models were incredible and cool passes

[rose minnow]

Don’t we all

[agile zephyr]

who has that gif of pyseph saying "i cant believe our players are this bad at math"

[errant patio]

why the fuck did he change the name of this suggestion

[fossil vector]

nooo the math is right

[teal verge]

how can u hate on the update that added astolfo 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

[urban wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[golden fern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255541150144532571/1378380044476616714/IMG_8478.gif

[earnest sand]

bc he hates tower defenses and blames it on av

[willow geode]

More clout

[fossil vector]

50 - 25 is 25

[paper basalt]

50 - 25 =25 so it’s 25%

[agile zephyr]

close enough

[earnest sand]

and then insults you if you disagree

[teal verge]

No it’s 35

[signal plank]

You don't understand ayaanic the experience wasnt brand new, i was expecting some aaaaa gameplay. I think this was also slop!

[spare jacinth]

2025 and people still like astolfo

[fossil vector]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[naive bluff]

SILENCE!

[agile zephyr]

if one more person says 25%

https://tenor.com/view/pig-fly-pig-gif-17147815297725961673

[paper basalt]

No

[boreal walrus]

@earnest sand

[teal verge]

wit you’re right they should make a new game each update

[signal plank]

@weak carbon

[naive bluff]

am i muted

[fossil vector]

@teal verge

[errant patio]

it was valid before this name change i deadass could not care less about ainz

[split carbon]

2025 and you have a shalltear pfp

[willow geode]

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-gguh-ai-baby-sona-meme-gif-15767759709245242383

[teal verge]

One more word out of you and you’ll face my discordian wrath.

[spare jacinth]

shalltear

[topaz ember]

sinofpride is there anything u like in av i feel like every single suggestion of urs is just complaints

[stiff rock]

bro how did the ppl change so much just cuz I changed the name form overlord to one piece the once piece glaze is real. like bro I like one piece but god damn bro

[fossil vector]

what is this suggestion even about

[earnest sand]

you are WRONG! and STUPID!

[split carbon]

Chuds unite

[heady pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1415486428607025304/1443956234255339650/gif_2.gif

[spare jacinth]

wrath like wrathliodas from astd

[errant patio]

[signal plank]

Im just tryna find the suggestion in this thread man

[naive bluff]

I’ve seen it.
I don’t even wish this on my worst discord enemy.

[fossil vector]

yeah one piece is the best anime

[teal verge]

ALL FOR CHUD 100%

[earnest sand]

bc changing the name clearly shows your agenda

[willow geode]

Use a pc lol

[earnest sand]

you dont like td’s

[signal plank]

I dont think ranting and complaining counts as a suggestion

[earnest sand]

but play bc of fomo

[agile zephyr]

dont insult people sir, im gonna have to give you a warn for that

[earnest sand]

av has literally got you in their design

[topaz ember]

there's none

[earnest sand]

just quit

im so serious

[errant patio]

ONE PIECE IS GOATED

[earnest sand]

you dont like the genre

[stiff rock]

hmm so what was my agenda?

[earnest sand]

DO. NOT. PLAY.

[signal plank]

Thats not the issue the message is pinned, there just is no constructive criticism

[teal verge]

You should quit NOW!!!

[earnest sand]

you dont like td

no one is blaming you

[willow geode]

Ah

[paper basalt]

Why is a tester encouraging a player to quit the game that pays him you should be fired

[earnest sand]

we are blaming you bc your being weird about it

[heady pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-gif-40123618314459872

[fossil vector]

banned

[signal plank]

Free mod point farm

[heady pulsar]

NOOO

[earnest sand]

now your gonna insult me

[fossil vector]

good bye

[earnest sand]

ready

[split carbon]

Kamui please don't be silenced for saying the truth

[earnest sand]

whos ready

[errant patio]

is he not allowed to have an opinion

[willow geode]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-alan-bowe-dance-floating-gif-15415378831496733351

[teal verge]

YOURE A STINKY PANTS.

[boreal walrus]

youre a moron

[fossil vector]

kamui you have a smooth brain

[heady pulsar]

What’s wrong with it? 😭 it has no text 😭

[stiff rock]

i like td not "anime td" not because i just dont like the genre but just because I dont like theyway the keep doing slop

[willow geode]

[signal plank]

*you're you glazer stop glazing av oh my god man you are dumb😡 😡 😡 😡

[teal verge]

name me 1 atd that doesn’t do this then that u like

[paper basalt]

No he’s a tester he works under little old pyseph he can’t think for himself

[earnest sand]

ok well the reality is thats the entire genre

[signal plank]

Im joking

[fossil vector]

Then dont play anime td

[willow geode]

Is kamui the biggest av glazer?

[errant patio]

[split carbon]

average AV player suggestion: slop bad, stop slop, nomore slop

[fossil vector]

why asre you playing a game u dont like

[signal plank]

That's @teal verge

[errant patio]

nah man that belongs to ayaaniuc

[earnest sand]

fomo

[fossil vector]

this is like drinking a soda u dont like or eating something u dont like

[teal verge]

No i hate av we are on furry TD now

[willow geode]

[heady pulsar]

Again, let’s stop throwing the word slop around without knowing what it means, by all means AV is the contrary of slop 😭

[teal verge]

yo who wants to run furry TD with me

[fossil vector]

What is this logic

[split carbon]

we are just waiting for princess td to release

[teal verge]

i’m acc so down

[golden fern]

fuck no we are on women td

[earnest sand]

femboy td

[signal plank]

You ask them what they like and they have nothing to say. "Why do you hate this soda" i dont know "well what else do you want" i dont know

[heady pulsar]

Tell the big X to do a tourney guide on Furry TD

[agile zephyr]

the fact people unironically think this is crazy though

[fossil vector]

@stiff rock if u dont like anime td games Brain rot tower defense is free

[split carbon]

"i'm in 1.3 seconds!"

[teal verge]

only uma baiken and kaguya are meta women guys we should push for more equality

[stiff rock]

u can make this arguement for any game. cod dropped a new update u dont like? give up on the game and stop playing forever and dont make critisicm. mortal kombat dropped a new character u dont like and are cheesy? welp time to give up on he game forever and dont make any critism. You realize how stupid this sounds?

[paper basalt]

This was a cold roast

[urban wedge]

what about astolfo

[split carbon]

still no black or chinese vanguard

[teal verge]

No he’s a boy

[earnest sand]

this sounds like my girlfriend i definetly have she can never decide what she wants to eat 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[willow geode]

[golden fern]

theres like only 3 black character in av 🤔

[flint heron]

-# son....

[teal verge]

40 chicken nuggets

[heady pulsar]

Pls bro, I need this 😭

[split carbon]

this just turned into shiczoposting now

[naive bluff]

WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT SILENCING ME!!!!

[teal verge]

💔

[spare jacinth]

the tf is ae

[crystal coyote]

first word

[urban wedge]

ae?

[earnest sand]

you have stated multiple times you dont like the slop of atd

[flint heron]

No BOM

[teal verge]

i think it’s just the bold

[flint heron]

You can't use big words

[earnest sand]

atd will never not be slop

[willow geode]

Rename it to utd will save it ✅

[flint heron]

Ye

[earnest sand]

do you see how your point is flawed

[signal plank]

The issue here is when someone asks you "what is cheese about the character" you have no response. When someone asks you what character you find fun to play but balanced at the same time you have no response. You have nothing constructive to say and ranting about everything you dislike does nothing

[crystal coyote]

oh

[earnest sand]

😅 😅 😅

[teal verge]

bro i dead js saw someone unstar the suggestion

[paper basalt]

Please get promoted

[flint heron]

We know it was you

[crystal coyote]

no man

[heady pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1329487535075754015/1444581912881528873/attachment.gif

[paper basalt]

how long have you been bug hunter

[earnest sand]

sin of pride do you want me to ask to ban you in game so you can quit your addiction playing a game you dont like is not healthy

[stiff rock]

yes there is a difference between criticising a game feature and critisicing the core gameplay of the game I like the core gameplay i just dont like the slop they keep adding. do you understand the difference?

[teal verge]

Next update can we trade every tester for pom

[crystal coyote]

6 or 7

[earnest sand]

THE CORE GAMEPLAY IS SLOP

😭 😭 😭

[paper basalt]

You need a promotion wtf is this😭😭

[strong minnow]

What should they add

[stiff rock]

bro are u dumb I literally said i dont play the game

[teal verge]

@earnest sand van for bypass.

[earnest sand]

the core gameplay is place unit > upgrade > kill enemy

[crystal coyote]

[willow geode]

[naive bluff]

i’ll demote you boi

[teal verge]

so why are u making a suggestion then bro what

[heady pulsar]

😭😭 I’m crine

[boreal walrus]

if u dont play the game u shouldnt comment??? 😭

[split carbon]

[flint heron]

☀️

[signal plank]

So you're talking to talk

[heady pulsar]

The big K is right tho

[teal verge]

Guy just wants to argue bro

[earnest sand]

Guys ive never played the forge but i think its bad and they should add more gambling to make it better

[stiff rock]

yes the core game of halo is grab gun and shoot. but they have actual content and different gamemodes

[naive bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/szakooker-gif-22318487

[heady pulsar]

😭

[split carbon]

this is right tho, bad example

[naive bluff]

Ngl cuz it is lowkey hot ass

[earnest sand]

bc grab gun and shoot has alot more options then place unit that attacks for you

[signal plank]

No dummy gambling is slop, forge is slop, every game on roblox is slop. Stop making slop!!!

[quick flax]

bro why its op now

[earnest sand]

also we are comparing apples and oranges here

[teal verge]

GUYS WHAT DO I GET FROM TIM HORTONS

[golden fern]

place units strategically > upgrade units strategically > kill enemy strategically

[naive bluff]

@earnest sand lock in and let’s turn this into 67

[willow geode]

In Av's case: get monarch and gg

[teal verge]

anime tower defense players when you have to defend the tower: 😡😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

[boreal walrus]

not even monarch

[heady pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255541150144532571/1441135932437827604/whk6sw9zq42g1.gif

[stiff rock]

i mean I dont play the game after the update I play the game since launch bro Im lvl 300 Im just saying i dont play the game much if they release little content

[golden fern]

get monarch strategically

[willow geode]

Trueee

[signal plank]

Even with this the gameplay loop will always become repetitive 😭. If someone finds fps as a whole to be slop theyll find any mode or any game slop no matter how intuitive or unique it is

[fossil vector]

yes i will and did drop cod because the games suck criticism isnt going to to help since the game is successful I Dont like cod i dont play cod

You said you dont like anime td games what does a character gotta do with it a character isnt gonna change a genre in mk1 they dropped homelander THE best Character in the games roster does this change the gameplay no it doesnt it just adds a broken character into play this also has notting to do with av if they dropped a unit that i dont like (uma) I will move on and wait for the next update/wls

[willow geode]

https://tenor.com/view/brandon-azurelatch-azure-latch-roblox-blue-lock-gif-5305977492911823007

[earnest sand]

the fact u dont like the update is ok but u try to complicate your entire argument to sound smart or something

[split carbon]

do we defend the tower or the tower defends us

[signal plank]

Does schizo ranting even count as a real argument

[golden fern]

the whole gaming industry can be slop at the end of the day its just a pass time who cares 😭

[split carbon]

Expedition 33 is awardslop

[earnest sand]

a simple complaint of “not enough content” is 10000x more reputable and agreed upon then whatever youve been saying

[willow geode]

Exp 33 sloooppppp

[signal plank]

You're saying a lot of words but effectively repeating the same point, i havent seen a single valid suggestion they could incorporate into their planning in anything you've said

[paper basalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1446943321577754746/1449428982318764215/RDT_20251207_1943454850802013745386507.gif

[stiff rock]

not really its just seems that way because the makers of the game have more people on thier team and actually know how to make a game progression system that keeps the players engaged instead of av that just and animation/vfx simulator has pretty much only one balancer (valk)

[urban olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1407144638401351803/1449838976570495156/togif.gif

[pearl pelican]

does this guy care abt anything\

[fossil vector]

ikd

[heady pulsar]

No

[earnest sand]

Get out while you can

[urban olive]

His opinion

[earnest sand]

disagree= insulted

[split carbon]

I do not care about rare rukia

[signal plank]

No he's only there to argue for the sake of arguing

[pearl pelican]

you crossed a line today

[topaz ember]

fuck u

[fossil vector]

kamui whats your fav unit

[earnest sand]

sukuna

[golden fern]

wow really

[fossil vector]

Fuck u stupid tester

[earnest sand]

Ok im sorry for being a glazer

[heady pulsar]

The fact that this “suggestion” has almost 300 ⭐ is baffling 😭

[urban olive]

If i could mod ping i would but i am blacklisted

[pearl pelican]

i thought av had alt checking

[split carbon]

it has better at release I promise😭

[stiff rock]

u guys are stupid bro why werent u saying this for ainz this is literally the whole point of the suggestion. watch yall gon switch up if the next update is the same slop as this.

[fossil vector]

noooo

[earnest sand]

Wdym

[fossil vector]

no way i get warned of that

[earnest sand]

the reason we are saying the game is bad is BC OF AINZ

[willow geode]

Op makes anything peak

[signal plank]

Your definition of "slop" is literally everything humankind has ever made 💀

[earnest sand]

how would we know he was slop before he came out

[fallow pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/me-and-speed-tried-not-to-laugh-ishowspeed-tiktok-gif-10902436083761798311

[fossil vector]

yes speak your shit

[split carbon]

❌

[urban olive]

Its clear hate speech according to the av government guidebook

[crystal widget]

when was the last time they splitted an update into 2 parts

[golden fern]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gross-ewww-gif-14205173

[willow geode]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-gif-25511987

[pearl pelican]

guys i heard this guy evos into really good is that true

[earnest sand]

“wow after the bad update came out then you guys hated instead of blindly hated before the bad update came out”

like sun.

[split carbon]

Fate upd?

[signal plank]

Prefired the "update is slop" rant

[fossil vector]

this whole suggestion is a hate speech

[frigid mountain]

Jujutsu?

[earnest sand]

boutro you joined this server on my birthday

wait no

you made your discord account

on my birthday

[fossil vector]

Bud they added 1 character😭

[pearl pelican]

kamui a may baby

[paper basalt]

you’re 8?

[stiff rock]

what u missed the point of the suggestion bro I made this suggestion after they release the sneak of ainz after like a million years of wait. and when it was basically confirmed that we would not be getting anything new other than the same basic seasonal update and they just focusing on adding op units that the average player wont need to use. It wasnt because I dont like Ainz I said int he suggestion that I think his animations were cool.

[golden fern]

yall tester are supposed to start coding and make the game better learn lua 😂

[boreal walrus]

wow you were born in 2017?

[fossil vector]

it was meant to be🥹

[frigid mountain]

I mean, it's still a two part update💔

[heady pulsar]

And the buzzword of the month goes to….

[split carbon]

slop just become wordslop

[fossil vector]

this update was not slop who saying this

[signal plank]

And which part of this applies to an update that should take less time than usual and the contents of which are still not public?

[willow geode]

It kinda is ngl

[fossil vector]

it was just boring

[earnest sand]

I would read this but you would insult me when i replied

so you know what

i agree

Lets shake on it

[urban olive]

I am getting silenced😔

[agile zephyr]

That's what slop is

[split carbon]

this update is textbook vanguard banner slop

[crystal widget]

portals exists for the sole purpose of exissting btw

[stiff rock]

seasonal banner update basicall. fit this description there is pre much nothing innovative about the theme of an update being to mangrow the same stage millions of times so u can summon for new unit

[signal plank]

"The original complain was the update took too long and it was bad so I'm gonna call the update that allegedly isn't gonna take as long which I don't know shit about bad too!"

[split carbon]

portal exist because AA had them

[golden fern]

what even happened for you to be blacklisted

[naive bluff]

Free Playboi Carti

[teal verge]

this is being set up to be potentially their best update yet and u are complaining bro

[earnest sand]

is enderian a secret tester hes glazing a bit too hard

[fossil vector]

isnt slop low quality content this update was one of the highest quality we gotten

[heady pulsar]

If anything, we are NOT getting a mass production of low quality content 😭. We are barely getting content to play but the stuff has been pretty high quality all things considered.

[urban olive]

Personal hate from mods

[naive bluff]

Mooik’s alt

[teal verge]

one piece will 1000% have a fuck ton of effort put into it because the devs know they can’t mess up a one piece update or else community will riot

[crystal widget]

one piece update = automatic good update

[boreal walrus]

XxMateoTheGoatxX

[teal verge]

and it’s being split up which means it won’t be a 6 week wait

[split carbon]

❌

[willow geode]

Son

[teal verge]

love or hate one piece it’ll always be good

[earnest sand]

guys i got work in 1 hour and i didnt sleep

[fossil vector]

If they make wb a mythic i will turn into Sinofpride

[earnest sand]

what should i do

[split carbon]

❌

[teal verge]

Play av pvp

[golden fern]

sleep at work

[naive bluff]

type of username he would pick

[boreal walrus]

thats such slop bro are you stupid?

[teal verge]

workslop

[earnest sand]

Im so tired

[naive bluff]

Quit av and come to ae

[fossil vector]

putting more work in av then your real job aura

[earnest sand]

Nooo

[teal verge]

I do not care about employment.

[earnest sand]

im loyal to av

[stiff rock]

it was the same for ainz when I made the suggestion they did not sneak anything new. I would not change the title if they did something similar to when the sneaked pvp or they teased odyssey.

[boreal walrus]

youre so dumb bro

[crystal widget]

wwhat is æ

[split carbon]

is AV loyal to you?

[earnest sand]

100%

[agile zephyr]

The gameplay loop itself is slop, a lot of the quality that was meant for the LTM was just missing

[stiff rock]

sure

[naive bluff]

damn, @earnest sand u letting it slide?

[earnest sand]

dw i already handled it privately

[naive bluff]

1 leak and ur gone buddy 😹
av doesn’t care about you

[split carbon]

sureslop

[earnest sand]

He wont be talking like that again.

[stiff rock]

only sensible person here

[teal verge]

ON BALLINS SOUL VANGUARDS V SKELETONS WILL SAVE AV

[paper basalt]

kamui doesn’t wanna get insulted stop insulting him

[boreal walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/marlon-fooled-the-internet-gif-11218989282434547480

[signal plank]

You've seen 1 sneak that had the map and came to this conclusion🔥 🔥

[golden fern]

slop

[naive bluff]

did he get the

[split carbon]

the map looked slop

[signal plank]

slop

[earnest sand]

You bet your socks he got the knuckle sandwich

[boreal walrus]

the knuckle sandwich is just visual

[crystal widget]

is that the blox fruits world 2 map lets go

[willow geode]

Kamui slop

[split carbon]

they did a blox fruit update

[naive bluff]

oh did u j-j-just said v-v-visual

[stiff rock]

yes until they sneak new gamemode like pvp or odyssey like the literally did in the past. its not a mystery bro if they are gonna release a new gamemode they will sneak it. and once they do I will change the title to something mroe positive.

[golden fern]

slop text

[earnest sand]

its visual you nice person

[naive bluff]

diff timeline?

[boreal walrus]

Yes i did.

[split carbon]

let's be real, OP update will just be story/legend with OP units in it

stop hyping ts up

[agile zephyr]

Nobody is disagreeing with that statement dawg

I'm not the only sensible one

[naive bluff]

The voices…
They taking over

[naive bluff]

U heard sageless0 guys…

[crystal widget]

doing anything for that bleach part 2 update 💀

[stiff rock]

cuz u the only one who gets the point of the suggestion the gameplay loop is boring.

[paper basalt]

No shit that’s what an update is

[split carbon]

were is my vanguard Rukia

[agile zephyr]

???????

[earnest sand]

not once has anyone disagreed

[agile zephyr]

Who else hasn't gotten that point either???