i love you valk

[inner surge]

not even a mention of fall

[edgy sand]

if there aren’t remodels it will probably be the worst update ever

[inner surge]

yeah and this was a shit decision

[timid spruce]

theres apparently 1 super big thing thats taking them forever to do

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal schooner]

valk did just in here not in sub announcements / announcements

[inner surge]

i promise u guys its jus gonna be another ui overhaul or sum that nb asked for

[edgy sand]

we already like about to be into winter too lol

[inner surge]

unless it’s guilds then people won’t gaf

[inner surge]

deadass

[timid spruce]

information about the lack of sneaks

[digital oar]

bro still think guilds is coming

✌️

[chrome grove]

guilds dont matter

[inner surge]

they could literally sneak 1 banner unit and people would be happy this is just tone deaf

[chrome grove]

no

[inner surge]

99% of the playerbase doesn’t even know of this “big thing”

[chrome grove]

theyre not gonna be sneaking theyre just waiting for the trailer

[maiden spade]

yes they do

[lethal furnace]

guilds do matter….

[digital oar]

guild fans when you told them to actually use it

[lethal furnace]

its just that everyone is stuck up with trading so much they just brushed it aside

[digital oar]

shitty feature

[timid spruce]

hopefully the big thing is actually big and not like a vanguard that nobody cares about

[chrome grove]

if they sneak something unimportant after 3 weeks of silence everyone is gonna lose their shit

[maiden spade]

no they wont

[chrome grove]

so theyre waiting for the trailer

[inner surge]

if it’s not content and it’s some front end shit i’m gna be so mad

the av ui is already incredible

they don’t need to keep dumping budget and time into it

[digital oar]

all that time and you guys only did one unit??
these devs are so lazy
work faster mfs and a lot more if they sneak a unit

[maiden spade]

they arent lazy dont make me mad

[inner surge]

not necessarily

[timid spruce]

the next sneak we're gonna get is the big thing, not the trailer

[digital oar]

mf im not calling them lazy

[chrome grove]

seraphic hasnt passed the third grade it seems like

[digital oar]

i used the fucking * for a fucking reason

[edgy sand]

trailer

[edgy sand]

they don’t

[maiden spade]

no you didnt

[chrome grove]

..no?

[maiden spade]

i dont see * in your message

[edgy sand]

..yes?

[chrome grove]

theyre upping the quality on the units themselves

not a fucking trailer

what are you on about

[edgy sand]

yap

It’s the trailer

[chrome grove]

get out of my suggestion

[maiden spade]

erza be like: your odin din din DONE

[edgy sand]

😭😭😭

[digital oar]

"get out of my suggestion" 🤓

[chrome grove]

what the fuck does this mean

[digital oar]

🌽

[eternal schooner]

wait is that confirmed?

[chrome grove]

yes

[edgy sand]

this guy deadass a cornball

[chrome grove]

yes i am

problem?

[digital oar]

hazbin hotel corrupted ezra

[eternal schooner]

dang i was hoping it was a portal / gamemode rework💔

[chrome grove]

well it could be that as well

[edgy sand]

you don’t want units to look even better than they are?

[digital oar]

we aren't getting a portal rework twin

[edgy sand]

portals are just ass in general

[eternal schooner]

the units already look great they dont need to be much better

[lethal furnace]

quality sure but no one wants radio silence

💔

promise of a stage when some stuff is done is now off the window

[edgy sand]

aa units pre remodel were it though i think av gonna do better

[chrome grove]

theyre waiting on assets

[eternal schooner]

20 more hours of afking portals it is then💔

[lethal furnace]

and the majority do not know of that

[digital oar]

they will give the units animated cosmetics,animated faces and custom animations when stunned

[inner surge]

it’s not

[edgy sand]

yes

[inner surge]

i promise u guys this “big thing” isn’t tralee

trailer

[lethal furnace]

then put out an announcement for it??

[chrome grove]

no shit

that guy is just dumb

[lethal furnace]

genuinely so many people r still clueless cuz they dont read chats like this one

[inner surge]

lol

[chrome grove]

they already did thats the thing

[edgy sand]

valk said they might skip the big thing and go straight to the trailer

[digital oar]

he is kinda right

[inner surge]

yeah 1 dev will say something here and expect it to get spread across the whole community

[lethal furnace]

^^^^

[inner surge]

they need to be more up front

[digital oar]

i still wait for a av model that competes with aa griffith model

[inner surge]

ghosting your community for weeks

[inner surge]

av griffith literally looks better

😭😭😭

[digital oar]

holy ragebait

✌️

[lethal furnace]

lowk aa griffith just has better vfx

[inner surge]

light form griffith easily the bet griffith model i’ve seen in any atd

[lethal furnace]

model wise they’re similar or av has a slight edge

[chrome grove]

AV's is better what are we talking about

[inner surge]

aa’s is so much midder 😭😭

[chrome grove]

kazuma try not to ragebait challenge (impossible)

[digital oar]

oh yea, comparing unevo with evo

show me aa griffith reincarnation model now

[sterile zenith]

av still clears

[chrome grove]

this is dogshit

[maiden spade]

that isnt dohshit

[digital oar]

dogshit?

[sterile zenith]

yeah

[eternal schooner]

far worse then av models

[chrome grove]

dry ass model with hardly no attention to detail unlike AVs

[maiden spade]

this has red aura indicating his evil intention

av doesnt

[digital oar]

what

[timid spruce]

av has the best models by far because they overpay so hard for them 🥀

[tribal jasper]

crzz

[dreamy turtle]

In my memory it was way cooler

[digital oar]

overpay is crazy

[timid spruce]

they do

by a lot

[dreamy turtle]

Does av overpay or does everyone else underpay

[digital oar]

cool models but ass cosmetics

[sterile zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-blackbeard-writing-taking-notes-writing-gif-17583038544116987898

[timid spruce]

i mean av pays far above the rates the other games do, its the other games underpaying under what it should be but then av secures it by paying above what it should be

[chrome grove]

is this your cope

"AV's is better but AA has better cosmetics!"

[dreamy turtle]

This just is true

[fossil pagoda]

it lowkey is true 💔

[timid spruce]

ngl

cosmetics are way more impactful than unit models

[dreamy turtle]

Aa put alot of effort into making good shiny cosmetics

[timid spruce]

who actually looks at their units 🥀 🥀

[dreamy turtle]

Then they made the normal cosmetic dogshit

[digital oar]

most of the time

[fossil pagoda]

until they didn't.

sheesh

[digital oar]

the bp units had the best cosmetics ever

[dreamy turtle]

Yea until rerelease
Who could have guessed

[fossil pagoda]

shiny rukia was neat

[chrome grove]

both

[dreamy turtle]

Like shiny shisui cos was insane
Normal was mid as fuck

[chrome grove]

i imagine ALS modelers get paid pennies

[dreamy turtle]

Well yea its als

[fossil pagoda]

basically everything was like that

[dreamy turtle]

They run a sweatshop

[digital oar]

shiny dazai was worse than non shiny

[fossil pagoda]

homura's cosmetic was so horrid u can't even use it

shiny on the other hand

[dreamy turtle]

Shiny roshi was so dope then shiny bambieta was just a color change

[fossil pagoda]

ye we don't talk about inf castle

the bleach blood girl (i forgor the name 💔)

[digital oar]

unohana

[dreamy turtle]

Dude that fucking mechamaru cos is so bad for both normal and shiny

[fossil pagoda]

yeah 😭

her shiny was so cool

then everything after that was shite

[sterile zenith]

huh

[fossil pagoda]

its like they used the budget of 5 seasons of inf castle into unohona and barely scraped the rest

[sterile zenith]

do people really care that much about cosmetics??

[fossil pagoda]

honestly yeah 😭

[digital oar]

we don't talk about leadboard units

[digital oar]

the fact you asking that worries me

[fossil pagoda]

yeah we GENUIENELY don't talk about them. there's not a single one that redeems the other

[digital oar]

the cosmetics is what most people like

[fossil pagoda]

and it kept getting worse with each season

[digital oar]

i remember people using the shiny lb units for rerolls

shiny jizo was the worst by far

[fossil pagoda]

gohan and blue devil were cool for their times.. but shit was just ugly by the end of the game's life 😭

[digital oar]

i wasted hours for that ugly mf

[dreamy turtle]

I grinded my ass off for kimimaro and that cosmetic is so fucking ass

[fossil pagoda]

nah nah cuz here's the thing. logically speaking you'd expect the lb units to go up in quality with time

[digital oar]

they had no demand, no good cosmetics and no fans

[fossil pagoda]

like updates kept getting higher quality units

except for lb shit. it literally went from worse to worse with each season (in all aspects)

from character choice to cosmetic 😭

[digital oar]

they put all the money in shiny bp units

[fossil pagoda]

bp was weird

[sterile zenith]

I have literally never given a shit about cosmetics

[fossil pagoda]

they didn't wanna do op units there. but it was still kinda good for niche tournaments...

it was so weird

[sterile zenith]

the models matter way more to me and even then it isn't that much

The only cosmetic that matters anyways is ornn

[fossil pagoda]

i would take a shit model with a great cosmetic over a great model with a shit cosmetic

we aren't talking about aa remodels level of "shit"

[sterile zenith]

aint no way

[fossil pagoda]

obviously.

[sterile zenith]

I'd 100% take the other way around

[fossil pagoda]

okay no no 😭 cuz this sounds bad

[digital oar]

that explain why invincible vs conquest cosmetics are so ass

[fossil pagoda]

you can't just pick 1 and leave the other

but there are certain situations

i mean look at diego

his shiny model is just.. idfk what that is

the cosmetic is cool af

[digital oar]

shiny yuuma had one of the best cosmetics ever in any atd ngl

and he was a bp unit

[fossil pagoda]

i would 100% take that over a shit cosmetic with a cool model

[inner surge]

i guess the whole player base has to change to your perspective then

[fossil pagoda]

here's the thing

you can't put a super good cosmetic on a bp unit.

shit's too common

[digital oar]

twin, what are you talking about

[fossil pagoda]

even if the cosmetic is the best thing ever created. if everyone's using it

then it just becomes normal. it loses the hype , the coolness

[inner surge]

what the fuck are u talking abt

im crine

[fossil pagoda]

0-0

what

i'll did on this hill bud

i don't want good cosmetics on common units

especially not bp units that u can get just for doing the bare minimum on the game 💀

[tender lichen]

baiken shiny surely has the best cosmetic right @inner surge

[inner surge]

yeah bro on the big N's soul

[final roost]

surely

[fossil pagoda]

give the cosmetic budget to the rarer harder to get units

[fossil pagoda]

lowk never seen it

[patent salmon]

bro they’re “upping quality” just for everyone to play with vfx off

animation slop ✌️

[tender lichen]

it's the same as normal

nothing changes

[inner surge]

mid asl

literally the exact same

😭

allat grin dfor what

[fossil pagoda]

💔

[inner surge]

model is nice but no new cosmetic is criminal

[tender lichen]

yeah and she's lit like the rarest obtainable unit right now

[inner surge]

honestly they should make her effects the shiny one

the thing that appears behind her

[fossil pagoda]

@sterile zenith this wut im talking about 😭

[tender lichen]

serial dio is a m word fest

while her bro

u gotta give your soul

[fossil pagoda]

m word ?

[tender lichen]

for the shiny

[patent salmon]

cereal dio is not real bruh

[inner surge]

afk

[fossil pagoda]

oh

jesus

WHY is that still banned 💀

[inner surge]

yeah its dumb asl

[tender lichen]

they banned like 2 variations of the word aswell

[inner surge]

99% of the playerbase does it anyways

automodding it accomplishes nothing

bro the game rn is like

[fossil pagoda]

walahi it aint that deep 😭 just accept it at this point. yall are too far deep to try to "hide it" or "keep it lowkey" when 4 out of 6 players are doing it

[patent salmon]

No one is manually playing av lmao

[inner surge]

idk if im being tone deaf or sum but its literally like

3 weeks without a sneak going onto 4

[fossil pagoda]

to be fair

[inner surge]

dug their own grave

[sterile zenith]

what bout it

[patent salmon]

I have probably 150+ hours in the past week and none of that is manuals

[tender lichen]

I'm playing ts manually to spread shirou propaganda

chill.

[fossil pagoda]

game's so dry im just rocking pvp

[inner surge]

people care equally as much about cosmetics as they do models

[sterile zenith]

A lot of people do

[fossil pagoda]

can't wait for a pvp m word 😔

[fossil pagoda]

make it happen 💯

[tropic cedar]

[sterile zenith]

like people vastly overestimate the prevalance of automation

[inner surge]

LMAO

[fossil pagoda]

yep

[patent salmon]

no one is manually playing anni stages dawg

[tender lichen]

you can't even say the fish's name ayaanic

[patent salmon]

it’s genuinely a waste of time

[digital oar]

hell nah, they killed my boy
what is it model

[inner surge]

when we say players we mean ones who actually play the game not ppl who log on for a day n then quit till next upd

[tender lichen]

the one with the S

[sand prairie]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbG1qcjNhZzJ1aDB6Z3plMGo1MjdobWpkMnNhcjRyOGQxcms5MW84dSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/lWQkqXugZs7e8mxHnA/giphy.gif

[patent salmon]

you can get 1:40 clears doing absolutely nothing

[inner surge]

crine

[fossil pagoda]

cuuuuh i know a friend of mine who'll crash out if he sees this 😂

bro

bro

[tropic cedar]

Ok unc, just lock in on that wordle

[fossil pagoda]

i have this 1 friend who still plays aa

😭 and he's not like a new player trying to "experience the og game"

bro been on it since day 1 , still on it

[sterile zenith]

people who play the game can't just play it casually?

clock in an hour or two a day or w/e

[maiden spade]

i canstill tell who that is why u overreacting

[fossil pagoda]

lowkey that's the thing though 💔 players who DO play it casually are the ones who m word it the most

[patent salmon]

on god

[digital oar]

dumbass, white look ugly as shit

[patent salmon]

Im busy with shit irl so I just leave it afk

[digital oar]

💀

[fossil pagoda]

people who play it competitively are doing worldline , pvp , leaderboard. tournaments. (the very few things you CANT m word)

[sterile zenith]

casual play
m word

pick one

[digital oar]

the old model was 1000000x better

[inner surge]

???

[sterile zenith]

automated players are not casual players gang

[fossil pagoda]

💔 we aren't cooking

[inner surge]

even the average plyaer is gna be setting up at the very least at tinytask here nad there

[patent salmon]

yes I am

what do u call a casual player bro

[inner surge]

surprised tinytask isnt automodded

[fossil pagoda]

honestly no idea. someone who just does daily challenge and leaves apparently

[tender lichen]

I haven't m worded in 6 weeks ayaanic I lowk didn't touch any new shop nor have I got dio but I deadass got 3 monarchs this update anyway casual play isn't real

[chrome grove]

hey thats me

[inner surge]

✌️

[patent salmon]

so 5 mins a day 😭

[sterile zenith]

casual players are players who just play bits once in a while. They don't seriously grind out everything, just kinda play stuff to complete content on their own time and that's that

[patent salmon]

are u even playing

atp

[fossil pagoda]

exacty

[inner surge]

but we are at the point where playing the game normally is afking

[fossil pagoda]

dawg this is av 😭 someone who's doing this won't get any progress done..

[patent salmon]

ong bro😭

[tender lichen]

finding a non afker is genuinely harder than not

[patent salmon]

😭😭

[fossil pagoda]

you might just be describing the type of players the devs think we are considering the update schedule

[sterile zenith]

that was literally how i did anni

played for an hour or so a day, maybe skipped a day sometimes

[inner surge]

arent you special

[patent salmon]

that’s not how the average player plays td games😭

[fossil pagoda]

uh huh..

[tender lichen]

even if they not using any big m word to afk people still definitely use tiny task man

[sterile zenith]

my point is that the idea that someone won't get progress done is stupid

[chrome grove]

thats literally me, but i use tinytask to complete the long grinds because i dont have the energy to grind 50 hours for escanor

[fossil pagoda]

I would love to see how skipping days will go with the way events work

[chrome grove]

im a casual player guys 🥺

[sterile zenith]

what events

[patent salmon]

just let us complete all the events at once 😋

[sterile zenith]

i did sasuke vf

[patent salmon]

clear 450 stages with sasuke for 400 coins

[eternal schooner]

U might miss 20 rerolls or so it’s not that big of a deal

[sterile zenith]

[fossil badge]

Real no lifes have like 40 monarchs 😭

[tender lichen]

not bebsi man

[fossil badge]

SHUT UP ANSMANIAAAAA

BMO

[patent salmon]

I have 12k rerolls am I a no life 🥺

[timid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/catwait-cat-wagging-tail-gif-15164511416751561383

[fossil pagoda]

20 rerolls is nothing you can get that from bounties and a couple challenges. 20 phoenix shards though , the familiar though , the permanent events that take 10 days to finish though

[fossil badge]

No ur a bug abuser

[chrome grove]

is the anniversary banner really that op

maybe i should get shiny hunter..

[eternal schooner]

Casual players don’t care about pheonix shards or familiars

[fossil badge]

With 50mil u can get around 2k rr

[sterile zenith]

fuck yeah i do

[fossil pagoda]

😂??

[patent salmon]

yes around 100+ rerolls a day

[timid spruce]

ngl im only gonna get the familiar to a unit if i like them 🥀

[sterile zenith]

i only buy phoenix from event shops

[young sand]

if the big thing they're waiting for is a cutscene, it better be on this level or even better

[fossil pagoda]

That's gotta be the most stupid thing I ever heard

[timid spruce]

i got gojo's and thats literally it

[patent salmon]

I got 2.3k with 25m ur math is very wrong

[timid spruce]

i was gonna get gilg's but his was uh

[fossil badge]

Yeah familiars arent needed for casual gameplay

[sterile zenith]

I don't care about comp/lb stuff

[timid spruce]

🥀

[timid spruce]

theres apparently a voice actor on the next update

[sterile zenith]

I just find gambling on a birb fun

[fossil badge]

Idk

[timid spruce]

not an official one

[eternal schooner]

The only reason u would need familiars are for comp or trading

[patent salmon]

I used luck potions and shiny hunter though

idk abt you

[fossil badge]

Where do you need a familiar if ur just a casual

[inner surge]

also make sure its bugged to not play on update release

[sterile zenith]

for fun

[young sand]

what are the chances its the same person from the guilty gear ost iirc he does voice acting too

[timid spruce]

i really hope if the sneak is a vanguard cutscene (probably) the vanguard choice they did isnt terrible

[fossil pagoda]

So you're a casual player meaning you're not maxing out every shop each update. Meaning you inevitably have a lack of monarchs yet you dont care about the vfs which are the most f2p easiest way of getting your non monarchs to become usable

[patent salmon]

so ur dio can have 50 range 😋

[sterile zenith]

it's not terrible, i promise

[timid spruce]

who can they even do for fall

[fossil pagoda]

?? The vfs aren't even tradable what are we on about

[rich rain]

Sakuya sh hard ngl

[fossil badge]

I guess? But you might aswell farm rerolls instead

[timid spruce]

makima, maybe kaneki

[fossil badge]

Fairs

[timid spruce]

"terrible" is subjective tbf

if its kaneki im gonna think its terrible while other people wont

[timber pollen]

???

[sterile zenith]

nah nah

[patent salmon]

Dio usable range?!😳😳

[chrome grove]

goated model

[sterile zenith]

it'll be peak

[timber pollen]

casual players don't care about fams??

[fossil pagoda]

Nuh uh add haruka rin

[young sand]

both of them have big potentials to be included in a .0 anime update 😭

[fossil pagoda]

APPARENTLY

[fossil badge]

Peep the stick

[timid spruce]

so its not kaneki thank you for confirming

[sterile zenith]

LMAO

[rich rain]

Y u called gigabyte😭

[fossil pagoda]

Naah

Wild

[fossil badge]

Tbf where do u need it if ur a casual

[eternal schooner]

U were talking about pheonix shards, and there are usually like 2 weaks for vfamiliars missing a few days isn’t a big problem especially since they come back later

[sterile zenith]

what if it was kaneki tho

[timid spruce]

hopefully its makima then

[sterile zenith]

js

[timid spruce]

[timber pollen]

everywhere???

[sterile zenith]

like hypothetically

[fossil pagoda]

I said permanent events that take 10 days

[eternal schooner]

Why would they need it the game is already easy it’s just for comp or trading

[timber pollen]

like what do you MEAN fams arent that important

[patent salmon]

Can we just add a Sinbad vanguard unit already

[timid spruce]

nether.

[fossil badge]

What cant you beat without familiars as a casuak

[chrome grove]

im a man of many names

goku boi, gigabyte, giga blob

[timid spruce]

it better not be

[timber pollen]

Not the point

for you to say it's not important in general is a dumb take

[sterile zenith]

telling valk to scrap the entire update for kaneki vanguard

another 2 month wait

[timid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/catwait-cat-wagging-tail-gif-15164511416751561383

i dont think its kaneki ngl

is tokyo ghoul even popular among their target audience

[eternal schooner]

The permanent events are permanent? There’s nothing wrong with missing a few days while grinding them?

[fossil pagoda]

💀

[fossil badge]

I mean if you dont need it to beat casual stuff then why do u need it

[eternal schooner]

It isn’t important for casual players

[fossil badge]

Im genuienly curious

[timber pollen]

this is not what you said

you SAID they don't care about fams

[fossil badge]

I cant see where u need it in casual contebt

[fossil pagoda]

Wtf is casual stuff.? Are we talking about story mode

[eternal schooner]

Yea they don’t care about fams cuz they don’t need them?

[fossil badge]

No in the general content e.g. raids dungeons etc

[fossil pagoda]

This gotta be the dumbest conversation I ever been a part of. Goodnight gang 😭 🙏

[rich rain]

Go in rift most mfs dont use familiars or they use random sh

[fossil badge]

Meta

[rich rain]

Real

[fossil badge]

@timber pollen where do u need familiars as a casual vro i genuienly want to know if there is anything im missing

[young sand]

u only need them to clear cid act 2 faster other than that genuinely idk

[sterile zenith]

it had a fire damage buff

trust

[fossil badge]

I mean escanor beats it in like 5 mins so not really much of a point there

[rich rain]

[patent salmon]

familiars can literally increase ur dps by like 80%😭

[young sand]

you can equip a familiar on escanor and reach like 4- 4:30 cleartime

[eternal schooner]

Why does a casual player care?

[patent salmon]

big number?

[fossil pagoda]

Honestly good luck even getting escanor as a "casual player"

[fossil badge]

Fairs but yet again not a neccesity

[inner surge]

son what

[patent salmon]

bring me a casual who doesn’t enjoy their unit having big numbers

🥺

[fossil badge]

Still not needed to beat anything non-comp

[fossil pagoda]

Since a casual player apparently doesnt m word nor play on a daily basis for more than 2 hours

[young sand]

hes the second easiest vanguard to get after broly

[fossil pagoda]

^^

[fossil pagoda]

He indeed is if you're a normal human being

[patent salmon]

holy shit have you used a birb before?

[fossil pagoda]

But nah we wanna be "casuals" 😭 I swear ppl are so weird

[patent salmon]

do you know the difference it can make on your unit?

[rich rain]

He ez asl to get
But dio is easier rn

[fossil pagoda]

Both are realistically cancer to get if you're a casual by these guys terms.

[eternal schooner]

He is only like a month grind even without afking and he been here way longer then that

[fossil pagoda]

Dio is a 7 hour grind. That's about 3 days since we DONT play for more than 2 hours a day

[rich rain]

If u dont use ma(ros fair enough tru

Afk chamber be a lil long as well

[inner surge]

bro no matter waht the difference is cassual players dgaf

[fossil pagoda]

Uh huh.. and a month to get 1 unit is normal to you 😭?

[young sand]

what unit are we talking about here

that takes a month to get

[fossil pagoda]

Boy scroll up

Smh

[patent salmon]

the difference in question

🤦‍♂️

no cat, vs good cat

[eternal schooner]

If ur grinding an hour a day then yea

[young sand]

lmao

[fossil pagoda]

Just quit the game

[young sand]

if ur playing a hour a day dont expect to get a fuckin vanguard in 2 days bro wtf

[eternal schooner]

An month was being very generous it would probably take 2 weeks

[fossil pagoda]

100 hours

._.

An hour a day that's well over a month

Wellll

[patent salmon]

no unit even feels rewarding to get anymore

[fossil pagoda]

Over it

[patent salmon]

cause it’s too easy

[young sand]

escanor does

[fossil pagoda]

This might just be the reason why these guys are talking about casual this casual that

[young sand]

because of how convenient he is

[patent salmon]

not even I got him in like a day

[young sand]

the closest thing to an auto upgrade

were ever getting

[inner surge]

bro i dont think you are reading what i am saying

[young sand]

u just got lucky

[inner surge]

casual players do not care

they get the units and dip

they dgaf about the familiar system

[patent salmon]

casual players must be 12 year olds then

[fossil pagoda]

He's chilling as a bounty slave honestly he ain't getting used outside of it

[young sand]

obviously?

[fossil pagoda]

They don't exist

[eternal schooner]

Yes they are😭

[patent salmon]

cause holy shit anyone with a brain would think to go for even 1 decent familar for ur unit

[young sand]

do you really think the majority of the people that play this game are smart individuals

[patent salmon]

id hope so

[fossil pagoda]

Genuinely they do not exist. Who ACTUALLY "plays" av for less than 2 hours a day , skips days whenever , dont care about familiars or phoenix shards, dont m word

[patent salmon]

surely better than als right

[eternal schooner]

Did u forget Roblox is a children’s game

[young sand]

on par with als imo

both of them have trash community

[patent salmon]

no way genuine children play this

[eternal schooner]

People that don’t care about the game that much

[patent salmon]

I thought it was mostly 14-16 year old

[young sand]

why do you think the playercount dropped from 140k to 50k

because they alr got the units

they wanted

[fossil pagoda]

People that dont play it at all*

[young sand]

and they wont touch the game again until another update

[fossil pagoda]

That's not a casual player

[sterile zenith]

A lot

[fossil pagoda]

Thats barely a player 😂

[young sand]

the players im talking about consists like %80 of the community

if not more

they are the same type of people that doesnt want hard content too btw

[fossil pagoda]

Where's the hard content 💔

Shit the hardest thing in the game is probably vsjw dungeon and you can beat it with 2 units

[eternal schooner]

Just cuz they don’t afk the game 24/7 and take their time getting units doesn’t mean they don’t play the game

[young sand]

are you even reading bro

[fossil pagoda]

Clearly not

Im bored , continue talking

[patent salmon]

anni act 8

[fossil pagoda]

Oh yeah that exists

[patent salmon]

is sorta hard

like

[fossil pagoda]

Honestly not that hard.? Its built to be a multiplayer mode

[patent salmon]

pretty easy levels of hard

[patent salmon]

u can beat it with any 1 top meta unit

[fossil pagoda]

And even then its soloable without monarch

[patent salmon]

yea

[young sand]

ggex is still harder than act 8 anni

imo

[opaque quartz]

Hi Valk
Can we get another fate update?
Thanks Valk
Bye Valk

[patent salmon]

I would LOVE a saber or salter vf

[opaque quartz]

shut the hell up

[patent salmon]

Salter passives r sick

[opaque quartz]

fuck vf

[fossil pagoda]

The levels if difficulty i want

[opaque quartz]

double evo is the only way

[fossil pagoda]

Are boss rush on their release

[patent salmon]

boss rush was easy what are u talking about

[fossil pagoda]

Loved the boss rush

[opaque quartz]

he’s typing..

fear..

[fossil pagoda]

Im talking about right off the bat before people knew wtf they were supposed to do

[eternal schooner]

At release it was decently challenging

[bitter locust]

the Fate updates are the lowest performing updates next to AoT

[fossil pagoda]

Cuz yall butchered them

[bitter locust]

nah cuz AA came out

[opaque quartz]

there’s a simple solution..

[patent salmon]

yeaaa well that’s cause of AA not bc they were bad

[sterile zenith]

even below GG?

[opaque quartz]

am I right @waxen shadow

[fossil pagoda]

Can't blame the anime , blame the update fr fr

[fossil pagoda]

Ah fair enough 😭

[patent salmon]

even gg didn’t do as bad as aot

[fossil pagoda]

Fuck aa. Wasted hours of my life

1.6k hours on that game with no mword

😔

[opaque quartz]

Didn’t salter kinda save the game? I swear we went to like 40 or 50k

Don’t quote me on that

[fossil pagoda]

close to hitting 1k hours on av

[opaque quartz]

cmon..

PLEASE VALK I NEED THIS

[young sand]

speaking of gg

[opaque quartz]

MY FAVORITE TD IS KINDA OBERONLESS

[young sand]

i hope by upping the quality, the new unit models are as cool as the gg models

[opaque quartz]

I LIVE WITH MY ALTRIA

I WANNA HELP HER OUT

[young sand]

cuz ill be disappointed otherwise

[opaque quartz]

VALK IM WATCHING YOIR STREAM BRO

WHY YOU TRYING NOT TO LAUGH BRO

THATS DISRESPECTFUL AS SHIT BRO

[rich rain]

Shiny diavolo

[rich rain]

He worth like 50k rrs rn😭

[opaque quartz]

Wow

[rich rain]

Diabolical

[opaque quartz]

Valk is egoing me

[maiden spade]

w trust trade

[opaque quartz]

I gave him a noobini in Sab…

[maiden spade]

ill give you liriri lalali and u give me 2 bundle 5 and shiny diavolo

[opaque quartz]

🤔

[maiden spade]

what could be the reasons for these trades

[opaque quartz]

Diavolo because I wanted him

and the bundles cuz bday

[maiden spade]

[inner surge]

smb sliding u $240 in bundles for your bday im crine

[opaque quartz]

shes the ink games lead artist

[inner surge]

oh wwo

tell them to slide me bundle 6 and 7

[rough frost]

Slide some u don't need all of that 🙏

[topaz aspen]

Can dropping a sneak rn for anything at all really be as consequential as u make it sound😭

[chrome grove]

if they drop a mid sneak people will get mad

theyre still waiting for the big stuff

[half quarry]

community is so spoiled

😭

backlash for a sneak in a qna

[acoustic trout]

i remember on my phone late at night waiting for aa reopening and seeing av update randomly, i deadass thought "wtf r these devs doing bro😭 😭 why would u update at the same time as aa reopening??? this update bound to fail and av will die anytime soon man " little did i know... oh so little i did know...

[timid spruce]

blaming fate for the fate update being low ccu is hilariously blind

jjba was the worst update they've ever done ccu wise

and dandandan

(who was led by a jjba character)

gave fate the worst hand ever

[acoustic trout]

ngl i think wasn't the anime choice neither the update itself since i really enjoyed it but the release time was the problem 😭 they tried to fight aa reopening 1:1 bro

[eternal schooner]

It’s pretty understandable most people would be upset if they waited 4 weeks of radio silence just to see a single unit sneak

[timid spruce]

yeah and now we arent getting a qna at all

u guys shouldve js voted to do the qna instantly 🥀

[acoustic trout]

ddd-sbr was the worst time for av

[acoustic trout]

wait what

huh

what

[half quarry]

but the fact that the bare minimum for a dev qna is having an update sneak

[eternal schooner]

Yea idk why they didn’t

[acoustic trout]

bro

r u fr

[topaz aspen]

Back when upds didnt take more than a month🥹

[acoustic trout]

we missed out on a qna because of backlash

[acoustic trout]

JUST POST ANY SNEAK MANNN IT CAN'T BE THAT HARD 😭

[half quarry]

fate update was good its just aa came back

[acoustic trout]

we don't need to see a good vfx or smth, just signs the upd is being worked on

[timid spruce]

yeah

[eternal schooner]

I mean they have had sneaks in a lot of other qna why not expect it here

[timid spruce]

🥀

wsp valk

[bitter locust]

Fate def did the worse ccu wise peak was like 10k and was constant at like 5k

[acoustic trout]

just pull an astd x cro

[bitter locust]

but thats not bc of fate lol

AV was on downswing and AA came back

[timid spruce]

yeah but thats cause aa rereleased & sbr/ddd were right before 🥀

[acoustic trout]

https://tenor.com/view/fentcord-true-coyote-gif-2599436844608872721

[half quarry]

also the fact that 2.0 was giga hyped

we didnt even get the sneaked map

[timid spruce]

still waiting for the camelot update w/ the sillies

[topaz aspen]

Makes no sense to me ad av is the best td quality wise why would they try to bump it so high for a .5 upd after having us wait so long for 9.0

[half quarry]

new lobby

[timid spruce]

kazi needs to watch fgo its so good

😔

[opaque quartz]

You see valk

the thing is

y’all just

Didn’t add my wife

Jeanne D’arc Alter

[topaz aspen]

Ask kazi if we can get some sorta hint for sumn

[acoustic trout]

is that tea knight cookie from cookie run kingdom

[opaque quartz]

Nor did you any other saberface than Artoria

Saberface = peak

peak = people play

[timid spruce]

[opaque quartz]

I lwk forgor the image

good enough..

[timid spruce]

see id use that if they were more centered

pmo

[opaque quartz]

FAH

[acoustic trout]

[opaque quartz]

all y’all gotta do is add fan favorites.. I can name some..

FAN FAVORITES

NOT MORE FSN PLEASE

[topaz aspen]

Naruto vanguard pls🙏

[rough frost]

Already got vanguard kaguya

[topaz aspen]

Cool

Naruto can still be added?

[acoustic trout]

third dbz vanguard unit incoming

[opaque quartz]

YEEEEES BROOO

YEEEEEEEES

[timid spruce]

yeah its kinda sad since fgo is where all the cool characters are

UBW & HF were well written but the character abilities are lowk super boring

besides salter

i liked hers

[opaque quartz]

Artoria lwk carries

[timid spruce]

yeah

invisible blade was sick

[topaz aspen]

Thats y we need naruto vanguard

[opaque quartz]

Kaguya

[timid spruce]

yo can we not give animes that already have a vanguard another vanguard

[topaz aspen]

Im talking abt naruto himself

[edgy sand]

son

[topaz aspen]

No.

[opaque quartz]

no man

We need at least 5 more db vanguards

[topaz aspen]

?

[edgy sand]

i’m crine

[dreamy turtle]

what was that? 3rd dbz vanguard?

[acoustic trout]

we need 60+ dbz vanguards bro

[lethal furnace]

dragon ball vanguards

[opaque quartz]

1/3 out of all vanguards are db btw

[timid spruce]

5 more db vanguards
make dio a vanguard and then add 4 more jjba ones

[chrome grove]

i do want this but only for naruto

[acoustic trout]

i think that's what he meant

[chrome grove]

naruto deserves a double evo

[timid spruce]

third is too few bro, if the ccu drops anymore they're gonna need 5 to recover

[topaz aspen]

Lowk we need a bleach one

[chrome grove]

rukia!!!!

[lethal furnace]

yhwach could have been a fire af vanguard

[timid spruce]

literally just add vanguards for animes that dont have them

1 anime shouldnt get more than 1 until atleast all mainstream stuff has atleast 1

dragon ball having two is insanity

[topaz aspen]

Fr

[chrome grove]

if he was a vanguard he would be glazed til AV dies by the TL makers

[opaque quartz]

One that completely destroyed the meta too

[frank sun]

Feed us the fate vanguard…

[topaz aspen]

First bleach one prob aizen

[opaque quartz]

valk..

[timid spruce]

all future unbound units have to purposefully be weak because of broly

[opaque quartz]

you heard the goat..

[timid spruce]

🥀

[frank sun]

Fate strange fake is coming soon…

[frank sun]

Would be pretty hype if a fate unit got a vanguard…

[opaque quartz]

OC 4 (I think) is coming soon too..

[topaz aspen]

No

[timid spruce]

feel like there'd be only 1 fate character (besides maybe ccc gilgamesh) that people would be okay getting a vanguard

[topaz aspen]

Pucci vanguard incoming

The ainz

[frank sun]

Its really only Artoria or gil for vanguard

[opaque quartz]

please valk I need this..

[fossil badge]

Salter vf neededdd

[opaque quartz]

wait

[timid spruce]

what would he even do twin

[opaque quartz]

Wrong image

[frank sun]

I would prefer Artoria…

[fossil badge]

Whatever pucci does

[topaz aspen]

Speed

[opaque quartz]

but..

[timid spruce]

hold for the archer vf

[opaque quartz]

but..

[fossil badge]

Make one for salter frfr

[opaque quartz]

dude

[timid spruce]

id prefer goddess rhongomynaid more but i could definitely see gilg 🥀

[fossil badge]

Dude

[frank sun]

Bro avalon la fae needs a anime asap

[opaque quartz]

Asap isn’t soon enough

[frank sun]

Fate anime onlys are missing out on the peak of the series

[timid spruce]

i did

[opaque quartz]

we need it yesterday

[timid spruce]

but its kinda bad 🥀

[timid spruce]

do i watch that on youtube miso

or

[opaque quartz]

I genuinely feel like Type Moon hates Money

[timid spruce]

thats the one w/ morgan and oberon right

[lethal furnace]

fgo lostbelts and anime projects are two that do not fit in a sentence…

[opaque quartz]

imagine if they adapted LB6

[frank sun]

Yeah

[opaque quartz]

how much money they’d make

[frank sun]

You can watch a playthrough on yt

[opaque quartz]

and..

AND WHO ELSE

[fossil badge]

"Kinda"

[opaque quartz]

HM

WHO ELSE

[frank sun]

Since getting to lb6 taes a while

[opaque quartz]

TELL ME

5

4

3

2

1

[timid spruce]

the castoria

girl

i think

[opaque quartz]

YES

LAST SECOND CLUTCH

[frank sun]

Bargehst…

Melusine…

[timid spruce]

should i play fgo to get to lb6

how long does it take

[frank sun]

Senji muramasa…

[frank sun]

Pretty long

[lethal furnace]

i had to pay someone to play fgo for me since i cant stand the game itself but love the story

[opaque quartz]

WRONG REPLY

FUCK

[frank sun]

Heed my warning young one

Do not play it

[timid spruce]

should i js watch a youtube series on it

🥀

[opaque quartz]

20h at least

I think?

[frank sun]

Yes i would recommend

[timid spruce]

thats not that bad

[opaque quartz]

iirc

[timid spruce]

do you recommend a channel

[frank sun]

Hold on

[lethal furnace]

watch but dont play fgo…

[opaque quartz]

I lwk couldn’t read

[timid spruce]

i watched the animes & movies for it

[opaque quartz]

Cuz of the Oberon suggestion

[lethal furnace]

cuz 99% of fgo is mindless farming

[timid spruce]

but i feel like i was missing a lot 🥀

[opaque quartz]

I’m still at section 2..

[frank sun]

Yeah i forgot the channel, i remember FBI linked one to me

[timid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/nero-fgo-fate-grand-order-fate-goetia-gif-15609300738889464491

[lethal furnace]

anime and movies hardly cover anything

[opaque quartz]

Camelot was so shit with how much they cut out

[timid spruce]

i have that saved

[frank sun]

You need to read Avalon la fae tho…

[lethal furnace]

that is only the finale for arc 1 of fgo

[frank sun]

Genuinely top 3 fate parts

[lethal furnace]

literally in other words, tip of the iceberg

[timid spruce]

that'll probably be what i watch since i want to make either a morgan or oberon suggestion

[rough frost]

2 vanguards from the same anime probably won't happen 😭

[timid spruce]

oberon is funny
morgan is uh

[lethal furnace]

Son..

[frank sun]

Morgan is so cool…

[lethal furnace]

It already happened.

[rough frost]

Dbz and dbs are different

[timid spruce]

2 big reasons

[rough frost]

🤦

[topaz aspen]

Dbz?

[timid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[opaque quartz]

Morgan is just sad

[rough frost]

Dbz and dbs?

[timid spruce]

ts not morgan

[rough frost]

Dbs broly I swear

[frank sun]

Well…

She is

[timid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/catwait-cat-wagging-tail-gif-15164511416751561383

[topaz aspen]

Its the same francise bud no one getting it specifics

[lethal furnace]

Its like saying they can add 6 different vanguards for 6 different jojo parts

[rough frost]

Still different 🤷

[opaque quartz]

Aesc ~> crashout -> Morgan

[timid spruce]

i only know ONE thing about morgan from the wiki really

and

thats that she tried to steal

[frank sun]

I worked really hard on the morgan concept… even did a raid for her

[timid spruce]

something from saber i cant talk about

[rough frost]

I mean they could but that won't happen, and dbz parts are kinda separate ig? They also got way more episodes so it just makes more sense ig

[timid spruce]

miso

[opaque quartz]

That’s pph morgan

Not Lostbelt Morgan

[timid spruce]

can u stop makin these peak suggestions

i need to make suggestions for these characters too

[opaque quartz]

We can’t catch up

[frank sun]

Well its been out for a while now

Oberon is all yours man

[edgy sand]

gurren laggan vanguard unit

[maiden spade]

Mid

[opaque quartz]

ok wow..

[timid spruce]

rahhh

[cerulean prairie]

A 3rd dragon ball vanguard would 🔥

[frank sun]

I don’t like him so i scrapped my concept for him

[lethal furnace]

said no one ever

[rough frost]

Zamasu would be tuff

[maiden spade]

great thinking

[timid spruce]

db is a fine series but its so overused on av its ridiculous

and the units they add arent even the cool ones

[sterile zenith]

It’s actually an ssj4 gogeta evo

[cerulean prairie]

Vegito*

[sterile zenith]

Double vanguard

[timid spruce]

why did they make broly and ssj4 gogeta the vanguards 🥀

[cerulean prairie]

Ssj5 gogeta 🤯

[lethal furnace]

ssj4 gogeta was such an odd pick

[timid spruce]

also they skipped cell arc completely (the only really good dbz arc)

[rough frost]

Broly was a good one, not ssj4 gogeta tho

[rough frost]

Should've added goku black instead of ssj4 gogeta

[acoustic trout]

hey valk when is the wicked collab coming

[lament zinc]

ssj4 was peak last year bro

[frank sun]

Could have made Tien (1 million years in the time chamber) the seasonal banner vanguard

[timid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/moro-dbz-dbs-dragon-ball-planet-eater-moro-gif-16777867407560337822

[rough frost]

Couldn't even solo a spring portal btw 💔💔💔

[lament zinc]

wasnt really last year but its almost been a year so wtvr

[timid spruce]

was there a trend for gogeta

why did they pick him

[rough frost]

I couldn't solo any spring portal with rogita boss and revitalise bcs it would just get stun locked

Pure ass

Monarch ssj4 btw

[opaque quartz]

I don’t even think I sent you what I designed so far really

Cuz like

Timezones

[timid spruce]

is that the 7 page one

[lament zinc]

the real question here

[frank sun]

I saw the abilites i think

[opaque quartz]

like

[frank sun]

And the bright ass design for the passives

[opaque quartz]

What I’m doing on pro create

[opaque quartz]

I changed it

[timid spruce]

the hell's abomination thing

being like

[opaque quartz]

to the font all black

[timid spruce]

dark red

[opaque quartz]

I’ll just

Send you tomorrow

it’s 11:13 pm

man

[timid spruce]

ive seen it i think

[opaque quartz]

I should go to sleep

[frank sun]

Its 5 for me man

Im so awake

[lethal furnace]

he was probably the coolest among all the other dbz options

but with that said

[timid spruce]

the gogeta that only fights omega shenron is not that cool bro 🥀

[lethal furnace]

most dragon ball “fans” only really cared abt dbs

💔

[timid spruce]

he barely has a character he's legit just used as a plot device

[opaque quartz]

timezones..

[cerulean prairie]

Hell nah

Ssj4 gogeta is the lamest gogeta

[lethal furnace]

im talking possible options for dbz

[opaque quartz]

Valk
Please just add my wife
thanks

[cerulean prairie]

?

[plush vector]

son

[lethal furnace]

like

[opaque quartz]

Nobody talked to you

gtfo

[plush vector]

son

[lethal furnace]

as in what would they have dropped other than ssj4 gogeta

[plush vector]

[lethal furnace]

but also a dbz char

especially when valk said updates r planned months ahead

so they likely already got the lineup for update 5 (was it?)

[sterile zenith]

Ssj4 was 3.0

[opaque quartz]

Get valk to add my wife

[lethal furnace]

i meant

[sterile zenith]

No

[opaque quartz]

yes

[lethal furnace]

update 5 for the db update itself

[sterile zenith]

[opaque quartz]

Do it

Lwk

I feel like Morgan would be like

THE perfect winter vanguard pick

[frank sun]

Checks out enough

[opaque quartz]

@cerulean prairie you want another db vanguard
I don’t think you have any rights to talk in this matter

[frank sun]

Winter queen morgan

[opaque quartz]

EXACTLY

[sterile zenith]

Cell vanguard unit

[frank sun]

Although would suck if she was snubbed from a potential LB6 upd…

[lethal furnace]

beg to kazi and it will happen

[opaque quartz]

I mean..

even without Morgan

Melusine, Castoria, Oberon

So many options

[sterile zenith]

Gets permanent upgrades as you evo him so people have different vanguard perfect cells

[violet wigeon]

more dbz vanguards wowiee

[sterile zenith]

[lethal furnace]

i just noticed

kazi has a cell profile picture

We’re finished…

The 3rd DB vanguard is dropping.

💔

[sterile zenith]

Wait fr

[cerulean prairie]

Holy shit

[sterile zenith]

LMAO

I never actually noticed

[lethal furnace]

it reminds me of when devs used to change their server profile picture to hint the next update

was so cool

[sterile zenith]

Imagine

[lethal furnace]

until the update was terrible

💔