i love you valk

[patent salmon]

guys he's good with monarch right surley?

[urban merlin]

?

[patent salmon]

😭

[urban merlin]

i havent done anything

[supple pier]

just speaking to speak now, ppl are begging for a good vf like sukuna 😭

[lament zinc]

do i snitch on u

[coarse frigate]

My only complaint is just the third passive feeling absurdly lazy LOL, there was many ideas you could have done especially if he is not monarch reliant and 4 placement i think adding cost efficency would be fine, for me though its too early for me to judge if hes good or not till i get him myself

[slow valley]

?warn

[uncut yarrow]

can someone summarize this suggestion

[urban merlin]

u deserved the mute

[idle niche]

why did sasuke even get one

[urban merlin]

cya in 2h

[idle niche]

genuinely why

[chrome grove]

valk everyone thinks that the TLs are bogus though

[supple pier]

me hate valk

[compact cliff]

?execute

[idle niche]

this guy won nothing

[supple estuary]

yeah why not johnny

[slow valley]

U deserve my love

[idle niche]

he won jack shit

[lament zinc]

naruto still rotting being the worst release mythic

[supple estuary]

the 3rd most voted

[uncut yarrow]

is this andre speaking

[idle niche]

sasuke literally won jack shit

[inner surge]

his dmg stat is 275k with monarch and vfam bro

[bold gale]

it's like I summoned all of illusion. You guys see my aura?

[inner surge]

guys rocking like 150k dps in the line

[round lava]

lf shiny sasuke

[bold gale]

never question me again.

[dreamy turtle]

passives🤯

[maiden spade]

no

[inner surge]

lizza doing this on the regular

[inner surge]

yeah ik but even with those being factored its around 150-160k

obv u have the 2%

[uncut yarrow]

he got buffed

[inner surge]

but that wont save it

[bold gale]

calculate deadeye rq

[junior hull]

would u rlly want monarch

[idle niche]

WHY IS SASUKE GETTING THE FAMILIAR JOHNNY AND CHA IN GOT MORE VOTES

[bold gale]

Valk said w deadeye it's op

like top of tl op

[lament zinc]

when was this? genuinely LOL i dont remember

[inner surge]

the saving grace is a full uptime cc ig

[near monolith]

we all maxing out 4 sasukes right

[junior hull]

deadeye seems better

[compact cliff]

UNGODLY OP*

[supple pier]

i wanna assume you didn’t go with johnny because of his inf spin ? it’s horrible and i don’t see any way a VF can save it

[dreamy turtle]

cuz fuck johnny and cha

[maiden spade]

because 1 is cooler

[idle niche]

HOW ARE WE NOT EVEN LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY FOR VFS 😭😭😭

[uncut yarrow]

like 2 weeks into release

[coarse frigate]

i can kinda believe that considering the arc counts as an attack, i have to see though again

[slow valley]

Monarch is better right

[uncut yarrow]

he got buffed and was decent

[timid spruce]

sasuke's fucking ass

[timber pollen]

So you don’t care about the poll?

[uncut yarrow]

sasuke was the worst

[inner surge]

👀

[lament zinc]

wasnt he still the worst tho

[uncut yarrow]

na he was cheap

[slow valley]

Monarch is good tho right

[timid spruce]

i dont watch naruto but does this make any sense

[uncut yarrow]

and good dps

[bold gale]

ok I'll calculate deadeye DPS ig

[lament zinc]

shit 😭

[timber pollen]

Don’t ask us to do polls and you aren’t going do jackshit about it

Wasting our time

[inner surge]

eth/de better

[timid spruce]

no i meant like as a choice

[slow valley]

Monarch is best right?

[timber pollen]

Don’t ask for our opinions and at the me of the day it don’t mean shit

[idle niche]

HOW DO WE NOT LISTEN TO COMMUNITY POLLS EITHER 😭😭

[uncut yarrow]

heh.

[timid spruce]

not even talking about the familiar

[slow valley]

Monarch better?

[bold gale]

Can you calculate the DPS rq

[maiden spade]

i havent read it but since its from owoflex i agree

[bold gale]

I' wanna roll on him

[slow valley]

My choice is monarch?

[inner surge]

dont roll on him man

[bold gale]

Deadeye specifically

[inner surge]

just save for the vanguard

please bro

get mm at best

[bold gale]

valk said it's ungodly op

[slow valley]

Choose monarch

[bold gale]

top of TL op

[inner surge]

its not man

[maiden spade]

yeaaah we trust valk

[inner surge]

unless theres some hidden shit

that we dont know

[slow valley]

With monarch right?

[inner surge]

its not top of tl material

[bold gale]

apparently there is

[inner surge]

godzilla is just better

[bold gale]

zeadeye

[idle niche]

wait

WAIT

[coarse frigate]

ill laugh if its not but we will see

[slow valley]

Monarch?

[idle niche]

SOMEONE SCREENSHOT VALK SAYING ITS TOP OF TL

[dreamy turtle]

the spikes is eh kinda sorta
1st one ig so, tho hardly anyone in naruto actually uses the sharingan for copying ninjutsu
2nd one yea

[idle niche]

PLEASE

[bold gale]

no apparently there's some hidden shit if I can make lines rq

[near monolith]

boiii I’m not rolling until kamui puts sasuke above broly and dio

[slow valley]

Screenshot my monarch?

[uncut yarrow]

kakashi does

[dreamy turtle]

yea
for the first like 50 episodes

[slow valley]

Kakashi monarch?

[bold gale]

And there's fucking 20 days till udoateb

[idle niche]

valk is aura gambling

[slow valley]

Which episode has monarch

[bold gale]

G money can you calculate deadeye sasuke DPS

[hoary heron]

keep this for later guys

[uncut yarrow]

i mean his title is literally the copy ninja

[bold gale]

hey mo, be nice.

[feral berry]

About

[uncut yarrow]

he copies obito in his fight too

kakashi does it a lot

[dreamy turtle]

outside of him copying zabuza i just dont remember anyone copying ninjutsu

[slow valley]

Fuck my monarch?

[digital oar]

yea because av players don't think and just want busted shit

also the vf sound busted

[compact cliff]

theres gonna be another tier over dio oh just for sasuke with vfamiliar

[uncut yarrow]

he copied obito's movements

[chrome grove]

WHAAAAT 💀💀💀

[maiden spade]

no it doesnt

[uncut yarrow]

in his fight

[slow valley]

Busted with monarch?

[gleaming oriole]

The new familiar are so busted

[bold gale]

ok I'm calculating his dps rn.

[feral berry]

Johnny bad cha good

[urban merlin]

december 31st?

[dreamy turtle]

yea idk its been a while since i watched naruto

[gleaming oriole]

can they stop making busted vf

[mossy plume]

🤔

[slow valley]

What about monarch movements

[dreamy turtle]

placeholder

[digital oar]

av player when basic reading

[maiden spade]

g money dont lie

[idle niche]

u sure

[slow valley]

Where’s my monarch placeholder?

[modern estuary]

guys if u thought dio range was bad wait till u see sasuke’s 24 range line 😭

[dreamy turtle]

nah the stage is in 7 weeks

[maiden spade]

how do u think hes good

[bold gale]

wait but he does a full aoe ON PLACEMENT

[idle niche]

pattern

[maiden spade]

seriously

[dreamy turtle]

have you heard of upgrading a unit

[slow valley]

7 monarchs later?

[modern estuary]

no thats maxed bro

[bold gale]

g money.

[modern estuary]

24 is max

[bold gale]

what's deadeye dmg.

[timid spruce]

@dreamy turtle YOU

[slow valley]

I only heard of upgrading monarch

[bold gale]

DPS.

[coarse frigate]

sukuna just does that lmaoo

[modern estuary]

he has 48 range at max

[chrome grove]

don’t worry guys we’re gonna get the winter banner in march and spring banner in june

[timid spruce]

G MONEY WHO DID YOU VOTE FOR

[maiden spade]

no way

[modern estuary]

they need to be in range of each other

[idle niche]

LMAO

[modern estuary]

that a radius of 24

[sterile zenith]

I knew it was voted lol

[idle niche]

NAHTHATS HORRIBLE

WOW

[slow valley]

@dreamy turtle MONARCH

[dreamy turtle]

sasuage

[maiden spade]

wow.

[idle niche]

NO POINT

[uncut yarrow]

guys enough time has passed we need another vf

[modern estuary]

gmoney bro 😭 lock in

[idle niche]

IN POLLS

[maiden spade]

WHY

[slow valley]

Why not monarch?

[bold gale]

who else was there

[chrome grove]

😭😭😭😭

[sterile zenith]

I think the last time we had a tester vote, I voted obito

[dreamy turtle]

24 range my ass

[slow valley]

Monarch was there

[maiden spade]

g money doomed us all

[sterile zenith]

instead we got tengen

[bold gale]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[mossy plume]

heard it here everyone

[slow valley]

Only 34 monarchs?

[bold gale]

g money killed js all

[modern estuary]

wow.. 26 range..

[dreamy turtle]

idk if im allowed to say so i wont

[peak mural]

Can we get to know the other options? @dreamy turtle

[mossy plume]

testers who dont know how to test have more say then the playerbase

[uncut yarrow]

ca u send monarch stats

[peak mural]

K

[junior hull]

LOL WTF

[dreamy turtle]

dude wht the fuck does this mean

[uncut yarrow]

gonna do a calc

[junior hull]

LOLOL

[slow valley]

Say my monarch

[idle niche]

u realize u just leaked our opinion doesnt matter

[bold gale]

lancer 😳😳

[dreamy turtle]

i dont have monarch

[bold gale]

pls say he was

[dreamy turtle]

i sent eth cuz i have eth

[slow valley]

Fuck mean monarch

[chrome grove]

we could’ve had cha-in..

[uncut yarrow]

spawn one in

[slow valley]

Why not monarch

[digital oar]

the second vf passive work with his first passive
combine that with a slow unit and you end getting a kill zone

[timid spruce]

holy fucking terrible

[sterile zenith]

That's why they didn't ask our opinions

[junior hull]

LMAO

[uncut yarrow]

how are u surprised

[bold gale]

oh bruh valid then

tf

lkarun???

[slow valley]

Valid monarch

[chrome grove]

okarun?

[bold gale]

WHYS VALK ALWAYS LYING

[modern estuary]

gmoney bro it is 24

[chrome grove]

WE CAN STILL GET EXCLUSIVE FAMILIARS???

[bold gale]

yo valk stop fucking lying bro

[peak mural]

Kamui has to be joking

[junior hull]

thought they said no limited familiars

[idle niche]

you said the last time you guys did a tester vote was for tengon or obito

[modern estuary]

his line range is his radius

[digital oar]

the vf is busted
why people trash on it lol

[timid spruce]

he said he wasnt but im not sure

[maiden spade]

is this a troll

[junior hull]

wtf is happening

[chrome grove]

WE CAN GET GOGETA SS4

[hoary heron]

okarun on the tester poll as if exclusive units were said to not get any more vfamiliars

[slow valley]

Monarch

[slow valley]

?

[dreamy turtle]

true
should be max stats and ascensions, idk how sandbox works

[peak mural]

The worst possible units in the game, he definitely is

[modern estuary]

you cant offcenter himself so his range allows him to stretch the whole circle

[mossy plume]

can we fire all testers and replace them with blind people

[compact cliff]

cant be serious... okarun?! 💀

[bold gale]

290k stat?

[slow valley]

Use monarch pls

[timid spruce]

thats the point of vfs

🥀

to make useless units useful

[digital oar]

?

[sterile zenith]

I can't fathom how okarun was there

[chrome grove]

G money i demand ss4 gogeta familiar

[dreamy turtle]

what

[sterile zenith]

since I thought limited unit stuff was off the table

[bold gale]

if you were tester we would've been saved

[maiden spade]

nah bro

[bold gale]

Is it 290k w the familiar

[dreamy turtle]

believe it or not that was not a choice

[dense viper]

Sole exception of Gilgamesh

[uncut yarrow]

unless i did something wrong he's only doing like 100k in the line?

[inner surge]

do the chains pool dmg?

[coarse frigate]

same here LMAO

[inner surge]

what were the option

[idle niche]

bro our opinion for polls doesnt matter nether literally just said testers vote for it

[bold gale]

apparently

[chrome grove]

when he is a choice pls pick him

[bold gale]

lkarun and akaza

[peak mural]

No, it’s not that. It’s the fact that no one would care about them because their base kits and aoes are bad, people wouldn’t get mad

[inner surge]

word?

[dreamy turtle]

oh uh
idk
somewhere around there

[inner surge]

how the fuck did akaza not win

[bold gale]

wait wym by chain

[maiden spade]

because sasuke cooler

[bold gale]

buns aoe

[dreamy turtle]

cuz akaza fucking sucks

[inner surge]

where are we getting this number from what

[idle niche]

are u saying that whatever and WHATEVER the testers vote it’ll be added anyways?

[bold gale]

scroll up

[timid spruce]

g money is valk actually telling the truth

i mean

[digital oar]

nobody cares about that bum

[timid spruce]

not valk

[idle niche]

even if they didnt win the popular vote

[timid spruce]

kaumi

[dreamy turtle]

that dmg stat seems low, also 50% more dmg against stunned enemy

[timid spruce]

did you guys actually vote between sasuke akaza & okarun

[dreamy turtle]

when the vf vote is between testers yea

[peak mural]

If those were the options, shit I’m glad sasuke won if the other ones were okarun and akaza

[bold gale]

multiplicative or additive

that's what matters

[uncut yarrow]

is he 5x or 4x damage

[dreamy turtle]

mult

[inner surge]

i cant find it

[idle niche]

nether just said you guys voted for tengon

[dreamy turtle]

5x i think

[dreamy turtle]

yea

[inner surge]

what do u think bru

[dreamy turtle]

we did

[modern estuary]

idc how much dmg he does unless its like 500k dps he has a 24 range line with no range buffs/trait 😭

[bold gale]

@inner surge x5

[idle niche]

who else did you guys vote for

[bold gale]

just confirming yo

[modern estuary]

and then you mess up your unit placements for that line

[dreamy turtle]

just those 2

[urban merlin]

sasuke worst aoe in game, 10 spa.

[idle niche]

ur lying

[uncut yarrow]

166k dps in the line WITH 50% passive @dreamy turtle

[inner surge]

oh u meant dmg stat

[uncut yarrow]

hes aight

[inner surge]

thought u were talking abt dps

yeah dmg stat is around 275k

[urban merlin]

Okorun would of been a better pick than sasuke

even momo

[modern estuary]

literally

[bold gale]

I'm trying to see where sasuke is ungodly and top of TL op

[dreamy turtle]

including regular attack? or purely the line

[maiden spade]

@idle niche do i monarch doomguy or obito

[inner surge]

dps is around 150-160k in line without passive built up

thats iwth monarch

[uncut yarrow]

purely line regular attack is like counting aizen regular attack

[inner surge]

with de its probably like around 180k

[uncut yarrow]

basically irrelevant

[bold gale]

I'm still curious with desdyee bro

[mossy plume]

julias would of been a better pick then sasuke

[bold gale]

top of TL btw

apparently

[inner surge]

is valk using a different unit than us bro

[uncut yarrow]

either way thats assuming 100% stun uptime which is not gonna happen so @dreamy turtle

[inner surge]

im acc cnfused

[modern estuary]

bro but i dont jnow why i would ever sacrifice so much effective range on my godzilla for this

[dreamy turtle]

i mean its decent dps

[bold gale]

Valk using susanoo sasuke

[dreamy turtle]

and its like 1/9 attacks that arent stun buffed

[uncut yarrow]

its more like 120k

[bold gale]

all sasuke is is a decent MVP

guy

[inner surge]

i guess bro

[inner surge]

iazen still bettter

[dreamy turtle]

lowball

[bold gale]

top of TL op

[inner surge]

its max like 160k

[modern estuary]

line aoe dps fuck it lets just use diavolo atp

[inner surge]

deadass

[uncut yarrow]

well this would've been good if it wasnt update 9 powercreep

[bold gale]

crits are 1.5x eight

[uncut yarrow]

:/

[bold gale]

Right

[inner surge]

unless theres a hidden passive

[uncut yarrow]

dio does 400k?

[inner surge]

with de yeah

[uncut yarrow]

valentine does who knows

[tender lichen]

what's the point of the 3rd passive btw, was it just chucked there for the love of the game

[uncut yarrow]

a bajillion

[bold gale]

ye lemme use the gpt to calc ts

[dreamy turtle]

more like 300k

[inner surge]

ig to stun all enemies in range on pace

[bold gale]

I can't sleep cause of this familiar.

[modern estuary]

dio deadass does more on his line aoe attack than sasuke

[tender lichen]

Once and never again I swear

[maiden spade]

rlly bro

[uncut yarrow]

WE COULD'VE HAD THIS

[inner surge]

idk why its a local cd tho im really confused

[bold gale]

yes

[inner surge]

what is ts

[modern estuary]

dont u get full aoe every 30s

[tender lichen]

they don't even tell u he's free to sell or anything

[inner surge]

oh is that how it wroks

still ass

[tender lichen]

is it??

[modern estuary]

idk

they worded it so badly

[maiden spade]

isnt it like 80k-110k

[inner surge]

the way it worded makes it sound like its onnly on placement

this shits so boring

[modern estuary]

why does an on placement passive have a local cd

makes no sense

[bold gale]

gotta use the gpt.

[sterile zenith]

nvm this familiar might be fire

[modern estuary]

so must be you can use it every 30s

[modern estuary]

explain

[bold gale]

why

[maiden spade]

cause valk said so

[inner surge]

bro

[tender lichen]

tuff in cid act 1

[bold gale]

true

[inner surge]

why are we glazing this

its fucking ass

unless theres some secret shit

like u cant even blame me if it turns out good

because on paper

its awful

[sterile zenith]

Because I'm actually realizing how much damage it can put out with actually good placements and any amount of stall

[tender lichen]

the 2% dmg stack is reaching the flow state in cid act 2

[inner surge]

bro

[maiden spade]

its bad

[inner surge]

i dont want another potential unit

the only way this could be good

[bold gale]

whats sasukes spa

[inner surge]

is if the chains all count as 1

[dreamy turtle]

genuinely pretty insane dmg from that
prob cant compete with gogeta strats cuz gogeta is on crack but still

[inner surge]

and they pool together

[sterile zenith]

Even if it only chains to one other spark unit, multiple sasuke placements means they can double up a line on top of one another

[digital oar]

tengen vf all over again

[compact cliff]

hes goated.... if and when....

[inner surge]

what the fuck does gogeta have to do with this what

[dreamy turtle]

with mon godly stats, 6.3

[maiden spade]

6.3

[patent salmon]

got the familiar early, he's pretty good

[tender lichen]

no ones using this guy over esca man

[dreamy turtle]

cid raid

[inner surge]

woah

[dreamy turtle]

cuz lazy

[junior hull]

[dreamy turtle]

gogeta faster clears

[inner surge]

oh

[bold gale]

ok i gotta clculate deadeye

[maiden spade]

is deadeye or monarch better tho

[inner surge]

this is just

[bold gale]

2 secs

[mossy plume]

"if, if, if, right. if my mom had balls, she would be my dad" ahh familiar

[bold gale]

is the wiki reliable

[uncut yarrow]

akaza familiar

[dreamy turtle]

monarch in most modes cuz 4x cheaper

[maiden spade]

he would still be bad icl

[uncut yarrow]

its support

[inner surge]

im sorry man look u can say its potentially good, the ONLY way this couldbe good is if the chain counts as 1 from all 4 placements therefore pooling the passive and damage together, but if it does that there's no indication so you cant blame me

[uncut yarrow]

shield break and life stock revive

[coarse frigate]

there is nothing you can do to help that absolute garbage aoe he has LMAOO

[maiden spade]

2000% dmg reduce spa by 80%

[bold gale]

sasuke has 69k dps w monarch w no arc involve

[maiden spade]

💔

[bold gale]

i mean top of tl

[tender lichen]

top of spark tl they meant dw big bro

[bold gale]

we getting a god birb

[maiden spade]

yeah..

[sterile zenith]

im ngl

that arc might make non-monarch worth

[maiden spade]

naaah

[bold gale]

YO

[sterile zenith]

problem is still maxing all 4, but

[maiden spade]

nooo

[bold gale]

TS COULD BE INSANE

[maiden spade]

hopefully u get c3

[sterile zenith]

C2

[mild meteor]

c1

[bold gale]

NOOO WHY IS FAMILIAR FOLLY NOT HAPPENING

bro i need a spare birb

does anyone have one

[maiden spade]

u dont gotta wait bro

[bold gale]

ill corrupt it i js need another one to roll on

[mild meteor]

gamble

[maiden spade]

ur missing out on a god birb

[timber pollen]

Naruto + Sasuke VS Madara (Vanguard) Peak update
AV TESTERS = VF SASUKE

[bold gale]

ok.

OMG

IM SCARED

[maiden spade]

YO

FAM

THIS MIGHT BE GOD BIRB

[inner surge]

unless these pool together to be the dmg from all 4 at once throughout the whole chain

[bold gale]

NOT GOD BUT YOOO

[inner surge]

itss ass

[bold gale]

HOLY

[maiden spade]

i mean

its aight

[inner surge]

damn

[bold gale]

HOLY DMG BIRB

[coarse frigate]

ayy thats kinda nice

[bold gale]

GOATEDD ZILLA BIRB

[maiden spade]

oh u right

[idle niche]

doom

[maiden spade]

goated sasuke birb am i right 😇

[patent salmon]

sasuke does much more than his displayed dps aswell it seems

[maiden spade]

bro he seems so bad

[bold gale]

if i could i wuld.

[dreamy turtle]

well yea 50% more dmg to stunned units +2% per consec attack

[sand prairie]

Read passive bro

[inner surge]

yo do yk if

it counts as dmg from all 4

like does the chain connect to other chains

[bold gale]

its per second so like it scales up to estime 16%?

estimate

[inner surge]

more than 16 gng

[bold gale]

thats 8 seconds in a straight line tho

[dreamy turtle]

it doesnt that would make DE have the dumbest amount of dmg ever

[patent salmon]

does ts have a cap?

[bitter tendon]

He is busted, gets mvp everytime

[dreamy turtle]

nope

[bold gale]

is this bad ??

this seems alright

[patent salmon]

hold on

wat

[idle niche]

@dreamy turtle was it u that said sasuke wouldnt be used in much but hes good

[maiden spade]

i guess its aight

[bold gale]

243k dps

[maiden spade]

yoo

[bold gale]

with only the 50%

[maiden spade]

he might be good

[dreamy turtle]

yea

[idle niche]

and then valk said that sasuke was top of tl level

[bold gale]

lets say it stays for 10 seconsd

[dreamy turtle]

i meant more in casual play

[maiden spade]

i might have to get monarch

[idle niche]

so which one is it

[bold gale]

277k line dps w stun

[sand prairie]

no

[idle niche]

where would he be placed

[bold gale]

and 10 seconds in the path

[dreamy turtle]

and idk much about comp
idk if lizard is used, everyone is telling me lizard fucking sucks

[bold gale]

ts odes not seem bad

[maiden spade]

holy freak

[idle niche]

he gets anim locked so his spa isnt true

[sand prairie]

better than bumass hk

stark solos both but whatever

[maiden spade]

whats with the hk hate

[inner surge]

then this is ass bro

[inner surge]

them ppl are idiots

[sand prairie]

just stating the obvious

no way ppl glaze hk and hate over stark bro

[dreamy turtle]

if it worked that way it would give sasuke a combined range of like 200 for the line😭

[bold gale]

w js griff

[inner surge]

not rlly

its only the radius

oh u mean like

[bold gale]

if i put on my good birb it gets way higher

[idle niche]

his dps aint true

[inner surge]

u can use other sparks

[bold gale]

ill shwo you rq w my good birb

[inner surge]

nah wait even with other sparks

[bold gale]

his edps counts anim locks

[inner surge]

whats sasukes range looking like

[bold gale]

48

[dreamy turtle]

sasuke has like 50 range (i know im highballing just ignore), and if each connection did dmg when any other connection hit, you could have a long ass line, where every sasuke is dealing dmg the entire time

[bold gale]

hmmm

do i keep

[inner surge]

how tho

[bold gale]

i keep

[inner surge]

25 range radius then

[maiden spade]

no

[inner surge]

max 100

[bold gale]

until further notice

[maiden spade]

hecks no

[inner surge]

100 is p long tho

[dreamy turtle]

oh shit yea radius not diameter

you right

[timber pollen]

theres a stun cd

and its in line aoe

[bold gale]

ok?

im js calculating the dps dawg

[dreamy turtle]

would be 200 if you use other sparks

[timber pollen]

ok?

[coarse frigate]

i might roll for deadeye who knows

[dreamy turtle]

why does stun cd matter

[timber pollen]

because we dont know if it has a cd?

just like how glory kill has a cd

but it doesnt say that in his passive

[dreamy turtle]

what has a cd? the arcs dealing dmg?

[timber pollen]

if the arc does stun

[bold gale]

arc counts as an attack dawg

[timber pollen]

isnt that bad lol

[bold gale]

imma keep ethereal sasuke till further notice

[timber pollen]

how is he supposed to stun if arc count as one

[sand prairie]

the stun lockout might just make them pass through arc with like 2 instances of dmg done if sasuke stuns them b4 arc

[dreamy turtle]

arc stuns

[idle niche]

do you like seasonals

[maiden spade]

is this a god birb

[coarse frigate]

guess we will see in 5 days LOL, i just wish the third passive had more effort put in

[idle niche]

yeah

[dreamy turtle]

i dont mind them
i think with how slow updates are 4 per year is too much

[timber pollen]

you trading it?

[idle niche]

its pretty good

[maiden spade]

do i take that for my b5

[coarse frigate]

goddamn

[idle niche]

idk

[bold gale]

rlly close

[maiden spade]

cause thats a insane birb 😬

[idle niche]

eait

[sand prairie]

1 rigged dice for it

[idle niche]

eait

honestly

yes

if ur so rich

[bold gale]

praying ethereal meta

[maiden spade]

do i take for b5

[idle niche]

100% get it

thats basically a godroll

[sand prairie]

take it for b5 and i will offer u shiny diego

[idle niche]

like a perfect roll godroll

[maiden spade]

yoo fr

[sand prairie]

i am not sharking i swr

[patent salmon]

does the arch stay forever as long as he has a spark unit in range?

[sand prairie]

yea deadass

[bold gale]

so juicy

[dreamy turtle]

yea

[bold gale]

more

[maiden spade]

wym

[patent salmon]

Ok

[bold gale]

b5 and adds

[patent salmon]

Make sasuke

Unbound

[idle niche]

if u r b4

b5

[patent salmon]

and we're good

[idle niche]

take it

[maiden spade]

im b5

[idle niche]

take it bro

[timber pollen]

i can give u 2x bunddle 5

[idle niche]

take it

omg

seraphic

that is almost a perfect roll

take it

[sand prairie]

back off low role

or i get mad

[bold gale]

oh yeah defo

do that quick

[bold gale]

i got 2 rlly good birbs for spark units now

[idle niche]

nah that butt

[true bough]

w tierlist

[bold gale]

@dreamy turtle still questioning zilla.

[true bough]

big Zilla

[random root]

YES this is what the tierlist will look like in about six days

[left turtle]

peep up twin

i made this edit just for u

[random root]

im crying bro

broo i was looking for one of electric currant 😭

[chrome grove]

😭😭

[random root]

💔

[bold gale]

valk

[random root]

i dont talk here much but the slander im seeing for this sasuke familiar is frying me

[bold gale]

thus is worse then gilga

ok nvm no its not

but like

[half quarry]

its just not

[bold gale]

whos maxing 3 deadeye

4

deadeye

sasukes

[crystal saffron]

free phoenix shards i guess

[bold gale]

atleast valentines back

[random root]

just evoed him rn 🙏

[bold gale]

we adding to the collection

i can get gilga rn

js too lazy

obito tmrw

[crystal saffron]

the really gotta add a challenge for phoenix shard one day

[bold gale]

and valentine in ten days

sasuke in 5

[maiden spade]

i feel ur aura snoobert

[bold gale]

LOL

sasukes gonna look like a rare when you use him

gg

@dreamy turtle please tell me these are placeholders

[dreamy turtle]

yea thats the obito banner, not the vf icon

heres a hint, the icon is on wiki already

[bold gale]

noo

i mean the bg

border

the blue

[dreamy turtle]

the color might change idk

[crystal saffron]

amazing, mythic unit downgraded to rare

[bold gale]

praying

[dreamy turtle]

i dont think the red and black is bad, just a lil too similar to a secret

[true bough]

they could make it black and white

[dreamy turtle]

my vote is purple
cuz thats sasuke chakra color in anime

[true bough]

they should keep that for when we have a susanoo Sasuke

vanguard or something

[dreamy turtle]

saving a color for if he gets a vanguard
idk

[true bough]

black and white for his white fit + black mark

on his shoulder

[kindred zealot]

potential addition

[true bough]

or just white and purple

since that's his fit

[bold gale]

im basing color off how monarch would look

ts looks so clean

prolly look like this tho

Someone made ts

yo i see why you think this

[inner surge]

yo

hes incremental?

[dreamy turtle]

that scaling does not seem right at all

[inner surge]

yeah lol

i thought it was additive

[dreamy turtle]

and yea its addative

[bold gale]

oh

bruh

[dreamy turtle]

20 seconds in making him deal 1.4M dps would be past good, would be absurdly gamebreaking

[bold gale]

nvm.

[inner surge]

wait nah even if

how the fuck is 2% from 150k to 180k

bro thats 20%

😭

[bold gale]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

lol

[dreamy turtle]

also those base numbers seem low

[digital oar]

ik the vf is going to be good but there is something wrong here

[inner surge]

base dmg is like 160k with good stats n allat

as in

starting point of the ar

c

i think base dmg stat i like 275k

[bold gale]

20%

[inner surge]

yeah

very big difference

😭

[bold gale]

it's 55x5

ya

275

[digital oar]

prepare for people to solo every ex stage with only sasuke 🔥

[bold gale]

he prolly can

most ex stages are a fat line

[inner surge]

fuck no bro what

[dreamy turtle]

he prob can

ex stages arent very hard anymore

[digital oar]

would be funny if the arc doesn't work when people obtain it

[dreamy turtle]

dont worry we got measures in place to avoid another obito situation

[digital oar]

the measures are closing all the channels so people don't start a revolution

[dreamy turtle]

measures that avoid it being bugged only in live game

[bold gale]

so sad obito is outclassed by Val sukuna and tengen

[dreamy turtle]

he has his gimick
offbrand gogeta

[bold gale]

I fw it

he's a cool unit to js have

idk who he replaces but

[dreamy turtle]

yea and fits obito pretty well

[bold gale]

yea

js wish he had more things to do w kamui

[dreamy turtle]

i mean what more is there really to do besides make him immune to attacks

[bold gale]

Some dimension shit

Don't think they implemented that at all

[sterile zenith]

That was literally the TP'ing

what, are you gonna give a vf a discount kaguya domain?

[digital oar]

why not

sound balanced

[bold gale]

No I kinda liked what als xid

did

it's like every few attacks send units in a small aoe or smth to another dimension removing them from the field then bringing them back to half of obitos range

[random root]

oh thats actually kinda cool

its like warp from battle cats

[chrome grove]

bump

[sick spoke]

saber

[chrome grove]

what about her

[vague hound]

we want CSM and One Piece

[chrome grove]

i can see the future, next update is CSM 🤫

[vague hound]

thank you DB; we NEED this

[chrome grove]

bump

[finite stone]

first av update with negative players

[round bay]

What are you even bumping yo didnt like everything in the suggestion get addressed

[finite stone]

who tf is joining an op update 😭

[round bay]

[finite stone]

crazy

WAIT THIS GOT NO COOLDOWN

[vague hound]

stop

[vague hound]

it will be the update to bring the most players watch

[finite stone]

im just being honest...

one piece does really bad in Roblox + the models gotta be kinda copyrighted like katakuri was

roblox atd*

[vague hound]

source?

[finite stone]

bait

[vague hound]

ah so you made that up

[finite stone]

i just said what i saw from playing atd for years, not a single one piece update went well besides aa dressrosa one

[vague hound]

ok

lol

[finite stone]

then you tried to ragebait me one second after🤷🏻‍♂️

[vague hound]

basing update performance off of aa and im the one rage baiting

good one

gooodddd one

the jokes write themselves

[finite stone]

ill leave so that this doesn't scale into an argument, bye

[round bay]

Als wano update was their peak ccu till like the frieren update

Aa obviously went well

Astdx's update was only like 50% one piece but it did take the game to its peak all time ccu

[hidden scroll]

could you imagine future double evo for the admials.... (punk hazard being made fire-ice split from akainu and aokiji). OP CC units have potential to be good and have some DOPE vfx....

and op units in general

also no familiars that apply status effects to put on katakuri yet....

[finite stone]

summer was NOT one piece 😭

[finite stone]

i did not play als wano update so i cannot tell you how well it went

[hidden scroll]

OP one of the most popular animes

how would it NOT do well at ALL

[round bay]

Yeah it only had one piece on the banner, and a one piece unit was the trial unit

[finite stone]

yeah, it does bad at Roblox atd tho

still even tho i enjoyed it astdx summer was the start of astdx downfall

[hidden scroll]

Perhaps other games havent done anything special for how they play

[finite stone]

people hated it

[round bay]

Wasnt astdx's ccu higher on the aot/op update compared to summer

Lemme check

[hidden scroll]

Ive only played this and AA so idk what other ATDs do

wait

uhh

one more

Anime Crossover defense

was interesting

i have only played those 3 but AD and AV being released killed it

[finite stone]

still theres the copyright factor

[hidden scroll]

remember...

their own artistic renditions

[finite stone]

all the designs wont be 1/1 this would lower the hype by a lot

[hidden scroll]

true

but the AV person(s) or whoever does their unit designs and or models do a quite nice job

[finite stone]

yeah its good but its all about the hype

[round bay]

Yeah, astdx's highest ccu update was their july one piece/aot update. It performed better than summer

[hidden scroll]

AD problems was unrecognizability and just being straight up ugly

and related games

AV artstyle is good

Just look at katakuri....

im sorry

i meant to say

clatakiri

[finite stone]

✍🏻🔥

[finite stone]

yeah the artist managed to do something cool but katakuri was a worldine unit, it was not the main thing

[hidden scroll]

Yes but point being, recognisable and looks good

AD and AA reskins were unrecognisable and ugly

[finite stone]

a whole update with like 7+ characters that are all copyrighted is tough

[hidden scroll]

Kizaru mythic pls 🙏

[harsh wraith]

no one thats who

[bitter tendon]

Ragebait used to be believeable

[rain nexus]

valk

or

andrevious

who do we think is worse 🤔

[vague hound]

andrevious

[tender lichen]

always blame valk for any possible minor issue

[digital oar]

they are the same person

[peak mural]

No, blame testers

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1312560141903593475/1384026832738848828/togif.gif?width=475&height=473

[young sand]

one piece game has 500k+ players btw

on roblox

just because als did a shitty one piece update doesnt mean the anime performs bad in roblox

💀

[finite stone]

ill give you the benefit that you jumped on outta nowhere

but cmon

read what i said

[rich rain]

U talkin abt blox fruits?

[young sand]

i dont see anything wrong with what i said

what do you even base one piece updates being ass on roblox tds on?

you cannot tell me with a straight face that if av were to do a quest vanguard featuring gear 5 and the wano arc for a 0.5 update, it would still flop?

[finite stone]

dosent do numbers brochacho

[finite stone]

good luck doing a 1:1 g5 luffy without getting sued

[young sand]

they can definitely do something with it LOL

''doesnt do numbers'' i am %90 sure ur only basing this from als

the one piece update was done so poorly it started the downfall of the game 😂

the problem is the devs and how they apply the anime to their td

not the fucking most selling manga, most profitable manga on the world

[finite stone]

yeah

pretty sure youll and the other one piece fans will enjoy copyrighted models✍🏻🔥

[eternal schooner]

Literally every model was copyrighted this update and no one is complaining?

[young sand]

your reasoning is so ass

im actually losing braincells

you do you brother

[frank sun]

The humble Shirou and neco arc and dio legit looks the same

But i would assume one piece remodels will look like the deku one (which means they are gonna be nearly recognizable) and well we know how that turned out

[digital oar]

deku:

and the konosuba squad remodels are ugly as shit

[eternal schooner]

Is one piece really as big of a risk they did katakuri well?

[frank sun]

This is so true

[digital oar]

i can expect av devs make that revenge gear fan art as luffy model

[frank sun]

Im just making assumptions, one more strike and there wiped from the platform so wouldn’t it be smart to play it safe, especially with one of the more riskier ip’s

Although i don’t know what binbin was yapping about

Talking about sum one piece will do bad on a atd game

Like cmon now

[digital oar]

also saying it is dumb
the als godly luffy update was dogshit but people still loved it

one piece fans eat anything

[eternal schooner]

Hmm your probably right but I wouldn’t say it’s a 0% chance since they never got rid of the katakuri model

[digital oar]

why would they copyright the blox fruits guy

[bitter locust]

I'm still mad G5 in ALS is buns

and has been buns for forever

🙁

[dreamy turtle]

Their rework made him even worse in casual content

[left turtle]

Did u see my edit🥹

[bitter locust]

I wanna use bouncy man

[bitter locust]

w edit

[half quarry]

valk i have a question

about sasuke

[eternal schooner]

Since ur here is one piece going to have the same level of model as Deku?

[bitter locust]

Itll all be stick figures

we drew in mspaint

[timber pollen]

will you be giving us 2x cake event please

[bitter locust]

Its coming with freddy fazbear

[eternal schooner]

Still going for monarch cuz it’s luffy

[half quarry]

is the arcs aoe just a line from sasuke to spark or is there a circle around both of them

[timber pollen]

look at #「💡」sneaks

its a line

[half quarry]

like o—-o or just ———

[timber pollen]

u dont see the gif?

[half quarry]

is what im asking

[timber pollen]

how would u make it circle a form between the spark unit and sasuke

[bitter locust]

like this

[timber pollen]

??

whats stopping players from using rare spark units

[eternal schooner]

Waste of a slot for not that great dps

[digital oar]

not that great dps

[half quarry]

so if you place your unit beside the track will it reach, or do you need to place them on the other side

[frank sun]

It creates multiple arcs?

[young sand]

will it work with kaguya?

[bitter locust]

most tracks ye

[half quarry]

alright thats pretty cool

[eternal schooner]

Isn’t it only like 150k dps stuck in one line?

[half quarry]

im glad i dont need to mess my placements up

[timber pollen]

no apoc was asking for it to circle arcs between the spark units and sausuke itself

makes no sense 💀

[half quarry]

is the like thin or thick

[timber pollen]

because by that logic u can just run rare spark units

[dreamy turtle]

I mean you can
It just wastes a slot

[bitter locust]

Killua coming back into meta

lets gooo

[half quarry]

he never left

[frank sun]

Drool…

[dreamy turtle]

When is the killua change coming
Aandre told me it would be made not rng

[limpid torrent]

yo valk why did you make sasuke so op with his first 2% dmg passive?👀

he gon be doing 1m dps with supports

[timber pollen]

in exchange u cant use repulse

or any cc

[dreamy turtle]

What are you even talking about

[bitter locust]

idk when I was designing units like Cha Hae-in, or Naruto, I was just you know keeping it simple

[timber pollen]

or just use baiken wall

into aizen

[dreamy turtle]

How does using a stun unit stop you from running cc

[timber pollen]

baiken pull back into wall

[bitter locust]

The joke is I didn't make sasuke

[timber pollen]

you cant repulse if ur using stun

stun

[half quarry]

yes you can

[dreamy turtle]

Yes you can

[fleet valve]

haha is the joke u didnt make sasuke?

[half quarry]

stun only blocks out freeze

[finite stone]

kazuma save me im getting jumped by the whole one piece community

[bitter locust]

Yes! wow!

[dreamy turtle]

If you repulse while enemy is stunned repulse takes priority

[timber pollen]

ok

why isnt this stated

[dreamy turtle]

It was stated when lockout system was added like a couple months ago

[half quarry]

is this to scale in game

[bitter locust]

no

[half quarry]

so what is the width looking like

[bitter locust]

iunno

[half quarry]

can you compare it to another unit

[dreamy turtle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271021029073879065/1440730931446157393/2025-11-19_10-45-18-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[bitter locust]

would need to turn on hit boxes

[limpid torrent]

lol but with familiar hes gonna deal alot dps because that lightning count as attacks

[half quarry]

well vfx are sometimes inaccurate to the hitbox

[young sand]

bro why tf cant i use my corpse heart

it doesnt work

[bitter locust]

That is the intent yes

[dreamy turtle]

the vfx is pretty accurate to the hitbox

[coarse frigate]

That and the fact it counts as an attack means very consistent stun lol

[timid hare]

surely it cant be that small cause its never gonna be directly on the track

[dreamy turtle]

place the unit good

[timid hare]

he does seem really cost effecient tho if you get him monarch with another spark

[dreamy turtle]

hes dummy cost efficient either way
60k to max is unheard of nowdays

[finite stone]

i forgot how cheap release units were since we only had speedwagon

this is great

[timber pollen]

will we be able to see arc with vfx off?

that way we dont need to be spamming placements over and over again

[finite stone]

sasuke should combo well with godzilla i suppose?

[timber pollen]

godzilla spa is 7s

so no

[dreamy turtle]

no
arc is vfx

[dreamy turtle]

why does godzilla spa matter

[timber pollen]

does the arc place automatic itself?

nearest track

[dreamy turtle]

yes

[timber pollen]

because godzilla need to attack so sasuke can stun the enemy

[dreamy turtle]

what

[digital oar]

todo and sasuke combo 👀

[timid hare]

the arc still damages if sasuke is stunned right?

[dreamy turtle]

yea

[finite stone]

todo vfamiliar when

[sterile zenith]

sasuke stuns on hit

[dreamy turtle]

and godzilla doesnt
im confused why they think godzilla needs to attack

[digital oar]

which let him swap 3 units at the same time 🔥

[timid hare]

av players in a nutshell

[timber pollen]

for sasuke

I need more information

[dreamy turtle]

yea why would sasuke need another unit to attack

[timber pollen]

Second Passive

[dreamy turtle]

he inflicts the stun

[timber pollen]

So how does Sasuke Benefit from Having Godzilla?

[finite stone]

lowkey todo is one of the coolest unit pre 3.5

[timid hare]

the arc just connects with the other unit

[dreamy turtle]

having a arc when sasuke is monarch