i love you valk

[young sand]

👀

[bold gale]

i genuinely forget how p2w aa was lol

[bitter locust]

How about 5 dabloons instead

[bold gale]

i had like 1 unique

[young sand]

no iunno

fuck

its not getting added

[bold gale]

in like under 300 spent lifetime

[young sand]

im fine with

csm

[timid spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1291141058650046547/1440800407256301598/IMG_8912.png?ex=691f7971&is=691e27f1&hm=7a546e76de153d3da8fb72fc0b899b08c4bf2ecca2fe64b95aea103debc9555d&

[young sand]

tho

[half quarry]

can we please get another dragon ball vanguard

[young sand]

ngl

[inner surge]

wdym? aa was giving u a whole 20 rrs per month thats like 10 uniques right there

[bold gale]

ok so can i ask a question abt alucard

[timid hare]

How about 5 more

[bitter locust]

dawg w idea

[peak mural]

My glorious king Subaru and big part of the ReZero cast are limited 😭

[young sand]

NO

[digital oar]

subaru deserve to be limited

[chrome grove]

wait guys omg what if the fall update is about chainsaw man specifically

[timid hare]

Can we get another solo leveling update too with another sjw evo

[peak mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866699859813859352/1431376909241155675/IMG_0655.gif

[inner surge]

son

[half quarry]

tbf the entire dragon ball series fits the vanguard rarity

[digital oar]

re:zero deserve limited treatment

[bitter locust]

Beast Gohan Vanguard, Merged Zamasu Vanguard, MUI Vanguard, FSK Vanguard, Garlic JR Vanguard

[peak mural]

Fuck you Kazuma

[bold gale]

lwk was giving like 4-10 daily which was a good amount during that time period

[timid hare]

Forgot UE

[peak mural]

DB honestly has the easiest choices for vanguards 😭

[bitter locust]

Garlic JR >

[bold gale]

nvm bro i forgot valk didnt design alucard

[round bay]

Forgot vegito double evo into vegito blue

[chrome grove]

laugh all you want, i can see the future

[round bay]

Black frieza

[young sand]

change the ssj4 gogeta model to mui goku and also give him a vf

that makes him top 1

problem solved

ggsezwp

[half quarry]

what about janemba

[bold gale]

so cool

[narrow verge]

Berk will we get jojo upd in future 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

[half quarry]

the fat one

[round bay]

Fraud

[timid hare]

You forgot tag team vanguard gogeta and vegito

[bitter locust]

Garlic JR >

[peak mural]

https://tenor.com/view/gordo-clapping-applause-bravo-janemba-gif-16724407

[inner surge]

valk take notes.

[bitter locust]

Nah DB heroes we go into after 3rd anni

[half quarry]

please yajirobe

vanguard

[peak mural]

YO VALK ADD JOHNESSY PLS

[round bay]

Reban him

[half quarry]

gives senzu beans

[chrome grove]

fortnite x anime vanguards collab when

[half quarry]

to your units

[bold gale]

valk can you try and collab with deepwoken and add aelita she would be really cool or any lore character really theyre all cool and i htink would be awesome picks

or like bring it up to the owners

[timid hare]

Be fr

[bold gale]

cause a deepwoken unit would be so cool

and very awesome

[narrow verge]

Valk will we get a jojo upd in future 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

[timid hare]

We aren't serious

[bold gale]

lord regent

would be so cool

[bitter locust]

I been laughing bc reading suggestions you would think the games dying with the "save the game" stuff when we are coming off a record setting update by every metric.

[dull grove]

Yo

[half quarry]

please blox fruits update we already got dough man as a worldline unit

[timid hare]

What is he gonna do judgment the enemies 😭

[inner surge]

EVERYBODY RUN THE TIME GOD HAS ARRIVED

[bold gale]

lore boi

he can be like sakura

sokura

imagine maestro

👀

[inner surge]

yeah the thing is like the easier content is actually increasing ccu and appealing to newer players which is obv healthy for the game it’s just annoying for actual later game players ig

[timid hare]

Deepwoken update would flop so hard it ain't even funny

[bold gale]

im not saying update bro

[dull grove]

Yo Valk reacted to the message 🥺 W valk

[young sand]

we need more stuff

like elemental confluence

[bold gale]

like a single unit or smth

[young sand]

even that is too easy for people

but

[bitter locust]

I agree, and I like harder content myself. But yk what I do now-a-days when I finished the av update? I play something else.

[young sand]

idc

[timid hare]

Maybe for a wl i could see sum

[twin patio]

Valk is the dio tung tung shahur skin for the new event that is probably coming today just like the aizen one

[chrome grove]

they genuinely cant add TTT because of dmca

[timid hare]

Event today?

[inner surge]

😭

[young sand]

what about hard content thats optional like the zodd mount from elemental confluence?

[chrome grove]

steal a brainrot had to remove it because the guy who AI generated him copyrighted TTT

[safe sedge]

stop leaking the gc

what the helly

[bitter locust]

I got plans, but plans take time.

[young sand]

beginner players can easily get the maximum amount of rerolls from it

[young sand]

😭

[bold gale]

valk are you ever joining back illusions

we all miss you

[inner surge]

ok i’ll stop before i leak the garou light and denji trio vanguard

[bitter locust]

Hell no, them mf ping too much.

[inner surge]

OH SHIT WAIT

[dull grove]

Valk the approach you take is amazing when it comes to av and I admire your work with that being said can you guys please make godzillas animation shorter I rolled 2 monarchs on him on accident

[bold gale]

and now theres proper protocols in place

[inner surge]

MB MB

[bitter locust]

Had me tweaking

[peak mural]

It’s so stupid that an AI prompt is trying to get others copyrighted

[timid hare]

The game is way too easy rn for it to be enjoyable imo but most of the players are ai

[dreamy turtle]

like third time thats been said in this suggestion

[bold gale]

the mods started banning ppl who ping 😭

[inner surge]

bro

[bold gale]

or admins

i think it would be awesome

if you joined back

[young sand]

is there a reason a 0.5 update is taking almost 4 weeks valk

[proven root]

Can't it be something like this, a separate stat (maybe only shown if you toggle an "advance stats" setting so new players dont get confused) that only shows the duration of the current attack, and changes should the unit change attacks (be it via passive or just upgrading), not influenced by spa or anything else? I kinda just dont wanna have to check the wiki or pull out a stopwatch to check the units animations to see if their dps is accurate or not

[bold gale]

and we would all appreciate you very much.

[inner surge]

it’s because i decided.

[young sand]

who are YOU bro

[proven root]

sorry for the BEAUTIFUL concept I definetly didnt make it last second rn

[inner surge]

no this makes too much sense NEVER SUGGEST AGAIN

[safe sedge]

yo chill ayncccc

[bold gale]

they dropping the trailer btw after stage

i cracked the code

[round bay]

Mon vs de highkey doesnt matter that much also isnt he gonna crash the game anyway or is dot fine now

[supple pier]

you were the only good part of the server cuz u would actually communicate with us now illusion sucks 😔💔

[bitter locust]

This would confuse the SHIT out of the casual audience who is the main core of the game.

Notice the CCU going up when the passives got simpler.

[safe sedge]

w glaze

[dull grove]

Idk but I still got 2 monarchs

[supple pier]

😭😭

[bold gale]

make it like an easter egg where you have to hit certain buttons in an order

[inner surge]

what if when u hover over the spa stat it has like (6.7s animation) in brackets

[bitter locust]

Konami code

[bold gale]

and only the rlly pro players like me would know

[half quarry]

ccu went up when the stronger units became easier to obtain

[bold gale]

ye whatever that is

ppl like complicated units

[inner surge]

those who get the best unit in the game in 5 hours

[bold gale]

all it takes is 1 yt to show how good they are

like salvation

[digital oar]

i wonder how people feel about the new anni units passive
is not like people hate them

[young sand]

bro 6.5 was made in 2 weeks

[inner surge]

SHRINE SAVE US

[bitter locust]

A good reason ALS is failing rn is bc no ones reading all of that shit to hear "does more damage"

[peak mural]

GTA cheats ahh

[bold gale]

ORRR valk yk js make them do unit overviews before UPDATES so people DONT get dissapointed

[young sand]

and weve never seen any update that take that short amount of time

till now

its going worse than ever

[bold gale]

WITH COMPLICATED units

[bitter locust]

Anni was intentionally simple

[supple pier]

u think av can animate OPM characters better in game than the current season 3 animation? 🤔

[digital oar]

i remember people loving ruby passives

[bold gale]

yk THAT DOES WORK

[half quarry]

those who sit in namek act 1 for 20 minutes and get the best unit in the game

[safe sedge]

id attribute the increase in ccu more to the game becoming way more f2p friendly and also more easily accessible "end game" content

[proven root]

its falling off cause they, in their eternal wisdom, removed the easy currency farm that gave them the ccu in the first place

[bold gale]

can you please read what i said above.

[inner surge]

i’m telling u bro av officially posting shrine videos in their discord is what made ppl fine with complicated units like baiken or choi because they were officially explained in depth in an accessible place

[bold gale]

that genuinely helped so much

[dull grove]

Just be patient the devs are working hard for us and you guys are being disrespectful

[bold gale]

no deadass

[inner surge]

😭😭

[bold gale]

like i wouldnt have thought byken was good backthen if it wasnt for shrine

salvation can step up

[safe sedge]

GUHHHH GUHHHHH

[dreamy turtle]

the fact that choy is considered complicated is sad

[inner surge]

choi bro

[digital oar]

working hard on fixing pvp and not matchmaking

[safe sedge]

I WONDER WHY THIS UNIT

[inner surge]

thought this unit was ass

[supple pier]

fair but a good ol griffith type of passive is nice now and then…

[safe sedge]

THAT CAN PULL BACK

[bitter locust]

OH yeah next update gonna need like one or 2 of those

[safe sedge]

IS GOOD

[bitter locust]

thanks for reminding me

[young sand]

is emmie not doing polls on the remodelled units anymore because of all the undeserved hate?

[inner surge]

not complicated but VERY poorly written passive

[half quarry]

well the way his nuke builds is kinda weird

[inner surge]

it’s hard to understand

[bold gale]

no please actually make unit overviews again i loved those so much

[bitter locust]

No lmao, bc theres no time to ask you guys

[bold gale]

like even if you made them

[inner surge]

plus shrine showed how it can be used effectively with deadeye ones

[bold gale]

PEOPLE dont complain

[peak mural]

Would be nice, but there is always a part of people that just join the game and rage after not understanding something so simple as a meter ability

[inner surge]

ig

[bold gale]

did you notice how ppl hated on broly? then youtubers made videos and broly got glazed ?

[bitter locust]

Concepts have to get done and shipped to the lawyers as fast as we can

[inner surge]

sucks that there’s so many less than average iq individuals playing av

[young sand]

btw what happened to him

idk

[inner surge]

who need wiki tl to tell them who’s good

[bitter locust]

Ofc same with Gogeta

[dull grove]

Valk can you guys make godzillas animation shorter I have 2 monarch ones

[young sand]

his videos were actually so good

[inner surge]

burnt out

[safe sedge]

valk what modpack are u playing brotato

[chrome grove]

didnt the person who made those stop making content? or is taking a long break

[bitter locust]

Thats just not how that works

[young sand]

ferror took his place and i mean hes also good

[bold gale]

no like deadass take this into consideration i cant tell if youre being sarcastic PEOPLE loved overviews

therse nothing negative

[bitter locust]

Cobblemon, its peak

[bold gale]

considering oyu let us try the units start of update

[dull grove]

My bad bro

[bold gale]

like theres no harm

[round bay]

Cobblemon is pretty peak

[bold gale]

and it doesnt have to be for every unit js the rlly complicated ones

[bitter locust]

No I'm being serious, we need some overviews for next update

and you reminded me

[half quarry]

valk valk PLEASE tell me why the passive descriptions for the new units has so many gatekept cooldowns/stats ESPECIALLY hollowknight, i asked kamui and he said “they dont tell you the stat buffs in hollow knight, why should they in av?”

[peak mural]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-big-facts-true-so-true-true-story-gif-10768238346551082063

[safe sedge]

its okay ill bring shrine back

[supple pier]

does this mean we can get remodeled ash and pikachu duo unit

[bold gale]

keep doing this for most updates tho like wallah i wouldve thought choy and byken were buns if not for them

[dreamy turtle]

bold of you to asume a remodel would stop nintendo

[peak mural]

Nintendo would reap the soul of each dev in the team

[narrow verge]

Than av gets striked in 0.0003 seconds the sec upd drops

[bitter locust]

That was a design decision by the person who designed it, I told them people would complain bc AV is a comp game and you need information.

[bold gale]

and keep overviews during maintenance

[inner surge]

nintendo would literally go to valks house and execute him if he even mentioned a nintendo unit bro

[bitter locust]

Well Casual game that has a lot of comp modes

[half quarry]

like why do i need to calculate the spell buffs for shaman stone 🥀

[chrome grove]

dude they got kidnapped or something

[half quarry]

or the cooldown for doom slayer glory kill

[bold gale]

they talk in the av dc server occasionally

[supple pier]

the guy who made that cool anniversary video that pyseph posted seems like a valid choice if u guys are looking for someone

[half quarry]

or the aoe of wou

[bold gale]

js hire salvation or smth

[young sand]

how was he burnt out when he was uploading once a month tho

i dont really get

[safe sedge]

got the bag and dashed

[dull grove]

Valk are you guys considering brining back lb units at all the skins are cool and all but I get offered pocket lint for em

[young sand]

it

[bold gale]

diearieas?

[bitter locust]

If we could do nintendo I have picked link for my pick.

[round bay]

I hate it so much man, spell build couldve been so much cooler than what it is

[craggy dagger]

his videos are unlisted sometimes

[bold gale]

holy tuff

[half quarry]

or the aoe of godzilla nuke

[inner surge]

@dull grove

[bold gale]

he wouldve been so cool

[supple pier]

yeah him

[dull grove]

That’s me

[bold gale]

❌

[inner surge]

tuff

[bitter locust]

Majora's mask is my fave game oat

[half quarry]

pokemon trainer skin for vsjw pls

[digital oar]

wrong, you zelda

[bold gale]

theres ferr0r and salvation in mind

[dull grove]

This is why your my favourite dev bro

[dreamy turtle]

yea lets make updates take even longer so lb units can get more trade value🔥

[inner surge]

a link unit would acc be cool lol

maybe a wl or sum

[dull grove]

Ye

[supple pier]

still waiting for av to drop a yugioh unit 🥹🥹

[safe sedge]

monster hunter is right there...

[bold gale]

wait so like can we get "nintendo" units now cause of dma

dmca

[inner surge]

11 week wl season there’s deadass probably over 10k shiny starrks in rotation

[bitter locust]

Since you guys are such fans of 6 week update cycles or whatever this ones gonna be, do you like 9 week update cycles so you can get your LB units?

[finite stone]

valk whats the reason of the level inflation 😭

[inner surge]

4 shiny events

[dreamy turtle]

wl has its own issues
also i doubt it

[half quarry]

anime defenders>

[young sand]

HELL NO

[bitter locust]

Huh?

[dull grove]

I would wait 20 weeks for a lb unit

[bitter locust]

Level inflation is a new one

[safe sedge]

valk

make it 12 weeks

[young sand]

act 9 especially

[safe sedge]

and give wl a lb unit

aswell

[young sand]

thats the reason

[bold gale]

lvl 200 at the start of update now im lvl 300

[half quarry]

can we please have more level milestones

[safe sedge]

heh

[finite stone]

we are all level 250+

[inner surge]

it’s just anni 9 giving a shit ton cause it’s only bosses

[round bay]

@dull grove go away before they change their mind abt ur unban bro

[young sand]

i went from level 180 to 270

[digital oar]

who is we

[half quarry]

like deadass afks shouldnt be an excuse

[finite stone]

please speed we need this

[supple pier]

just give up on all leaderboards of it means we can get faster updates 🙏

[bitter locust]

Oh bc you been macroing the super fast stage with all bosses.

[young sand]

we as in all of us

[bold gale]

yeah

[bitter locust]

Dawg I WISH

MY dream game has no LB, no limited units

[inner surge]

there’s been so many 2x shiny events, returning players. i don’t doubt there’s over at least 8k

[safe sedge]

no one would be mad bro

no one plays lb anyway

[bold gale]

also valk can you consider a serialized title or like bring it up ot one of the devs

[bitter locust]

Lots of ppl do

[dreamy turtle]

even assuming everyone only got the unit during shiny event (hardly anybody does that), would require arpimd 166k people to have gotten the wl unit during that time

[safe sedge]

the same like 4 teams are t12 every season

[bitter locust]

unfortunately

[half quarry]

its the best reroll, essence, and gold farm why would i not play it

[bold gale]

cause im gonna end up trading mine away cause i cant transfer it

[young sand]

the act give so much xp and i can clear it in 2 mins

[bold gale]

i want a title that only the og owner can have

[young sand]

i mean

not me

him

[supple pier]

as a lb player u have my support to end all lb, the rewards aren’t worth the time anymore 😭

[young sand]

i went up like 80-90 levels

[bold gale]

its so annoyin you cant transfer it

[bitter locust]

I wasn't saying not to, I was saying the cause. LOL

[inner surge]

170k getting starrk the past few weeks doesn’t even sound crazy

[digital oar]

Life wasted

[half quarry]

ig

[bold gale]

i wanna have a serialized monarch dio without wasting rerolls

[safe sedge]

1 weeks worth of "manual play" vs 100+ hrs manual

[young sand]

hmuch did u spend

for it

[bold gale]

like 7 dios

[dull grove]

Yea

[young sand]

💀

[bold gale]

including shiny and normal

[young sand]

some people really have it easy

bro

[chrome grove]

im gonna crash out if i get timed out over this again

[inner surge]

50 hours for 30 rrs vs 2 hours for 50

[bold gale]

js sitting in my inv

[round bay]

I'm ngl, is it unfair to say that someone who doesnt afk but gets the main units from every update would be above level 150 at this point?

[inner surge]

nb cares

[chrome grove]

mid

[finite stone]

give it meeee 😭

[inner surge]

son

[bold gale]

i want transfer son

it doesnt work on profiles either

so you cant flex it there

[young sand]

i still dont know how the fuck i got 15 normal and 6 shiny dios when i have shiny hunter 😭

[finite stone]

if this gambling card game wasnt so addicting i wouldve probably have serialized dio already 😡

[half quarry]

and a level 20 can do ts

[rich rain]

mk the skin for a gd unit then we eating gd not choi bru

[peak mural]

No, Nintendo would eradicate a product if it resembles a Nintendo original even in 1%

[young sand]

game didnt even give me a chance for obtaining him atp

[inner surge]

🔥

[round bay]

Ayaanic you would do 5000 backflips if it meant shiny starkk would have the same value as this, calm down..

[timid spruce]

launch vanguard

[bitter locust]

Prolly iunno, they shouldve hit 150 getting ymir honestly. But I'm not increasing level cap rewards, its good where it is.

[digital oar]

i already told you that 973 is the most aura less number ever

[finite stone]

who even is this

[half quarry]

i wouldnt even be mad if anni event left next update

[timid spruce]

DB character

[bold gale]

caution one guy that said that got banned.

[chrome grove]

her sneeze one shots bosses

[half quarry]

but it wont

[finite stone]

i was joking

[timid spruce]

true

[bitter locust]

People be wanting to fight for anything that gives em 20 more RR

[timid spruce]

oh

[young sand]

i got 700 rerolls

from just unshinying

the trashes

[peak mural]

Ofc that’s 20 monarchs right there

[round bay]

Idrc about it since what do 200 one time rrs even mean at this point but i think itd be generally well received by the community

[half quarry]

yeah i got like over 1k from 15m cakes

[coarse frigate]

Kinda agree, I dont really see the point 😭

[inner surge]

i’d deadass put my life down for shiny wl units to have this value

[bold gale]

was there a reason you made valentine unob and in such a short time not letting people who missed out not climb wl ?

[bitter locust]

20 glitched

[dull grove]

Valk do you want a roy mustang skin? I don’t want him

[inner surge]

trading shiny mori was impossible

so worthless

yet i spent like 50 hours for it

[peak mural]

I would fight Jon Jones for 5 rounds for 1 reroll

[bitter locust]

Because a new update hit

[finite stone]

thats crazy, i wouldnt do it for less then 5

[bold gale]

I know but like it makes wl nearly impossible to get top 12 😭

[digital oar]

valk rework portals

[bitter locust]

Wym shiny subaru has crazy value for some reason

[bold gale]

i was gonna get top 12 but i couldnt evo valentine in time cause i was busy

[bitter locust]

The most duped WL unit in history bc of bugs

[young sand]

add him to permanent questline already broooo

[peak mural]

That’s a monarch over there, I am satisfied with that

[bold gale]

and now i cant compete

[bitter locust]

has insane value

[bold gale]

ig its kinda sad

[round bay]

Hes kinda the fucking exception for some reason hes worth 5x as much as any other shiny wl

[supple pier]

is the priority to get in the rhythm of dealing with dmca and getting into a reliable update schedule, then afterwards focus more onto game modes and that stuff?

[inner surge]

super overpriced especially cause even tho he got duped the shiny copies were centralized among a much smaller portion of the playerbase cause of low ccu

[bold gale]

can you give us ONE WORD to describe the new wl unit

[round bay]

Hes duped but game was dead as hell when he was obtainable no?

[bold gale]

js like anything

[inner surge]

also subaru is hyped

[half quarry]

buff guts

[finite stone]

to be fair no one played during his 1 update

[digital oar]

re: zero fans inflating the value

[peak mural]

The goat

[round bay]

Its from an animated show

[bitter locust]

This updates not taking so long bc of DMCA shit, its taking a long time bc of quality

[bold gale]

game regained most players in update 3.5

[bitter locust]

I did 🙁

[dull grove]

Valk here’s an idea make it so inf lb doesn’t get any reward for like 3 updates and then gets a unit is that tuff?

[bold gale]

deadass?

[half quarry]

buff hollow knight

[supple pier]

oh okay that’s a lot more reassuring to hear then

[peak mural]

Gluttony Route Subaru as the shiny, shit I would inflate it too

[bitter locust]

I even played SBR even before I was a dev

[round bay]

Didnt esdeath come out in 3.5

[peak mural]

https://tenor.com/view/subaru-gluttony-gif-14344324393426816594

[bold gale]

yep

[digital oar]

unknow

[half quarry]

the wait from 2.0 to 3.5 was a century bruh

[young sand]

send proof by sneaking the vanguard cutscene or its cap

[finite stone]

probably it was just you and @digital oar

[bold gale]

3.0 was stepping stone but it was like 30k ccu which 90% didnt beat wl

[peak mural]

DPMO

[inner surge]

surely we getting a new raid soon right it’s been 9 updates 😭

a hard one too

[supple pier]

like 30k ccu and not every single one of those 30k played or even finished wl lol cuz AA was back

[bold gale]

i was expecting a game character wl icl

[bitter locust]

Hell nah bc ppl are dumb, they would call something unfinished shit.

[digital oar]

only know because of astd

[bold gale]

or is this just a ploy and you give us trailer after stage huhhh

[peak mural]

A raid? What’s that? What’s a raid?

[bitter locust]

ITs why I find ALS sneaking unfinished animations funny

[bold gale]

i can see through your lies berk.

[round bay]

Yeah even the ppl who came back were mostly going for gogeta

[dreamy turtle]

cid was only 7 ago

[young sand]

i still remember people here calling that dio ability image unfinished LMFAO it was obviously the final product

[bold gale]

wl was also harder back then

and bulk of 3.0 ccu came after update

[peak mural]

Especially on TikTok, the amount of CCs that throw shit on AV for the slightest inconvenience is insane.

[bold gale]

not on update drop

[half quarry]

i remember playing on christmas trying to beat all 50 floors with my monarch choso ❤️‍🩹

[inner surge]

these ccs are level 100 in game too btw

[finite stone]

because players were weaker, not because it was hard

[bold gale]

😭

[bold gale]

that one stark pfp guy

[inner surge]

the loudest voices are the ones who are just ass at the game/ don’t play enough

lol

[peak mural]

I genuinely felt bad for pyseph, they were getting harassed for posting something that a fan made that made them happy 😭

[bitter locust]

AV for some reason has like the most volatile community LOL, literally can never make everyone happy.

[supple pier]

Tiktok CC opinions don’t matter much they content farm off of a single message

[young sand]

valk for the dev stage dont take noah and the other noah and ab to the stage PLEASEEEEE IM BEGGING YOU THEY PROVIDE NOTHING USEFUL

[inner surge]

ab plays click bait gear 5 vanguard respect

[young sand]

ab is talking whatever comes to his mind

[bold gale]

ab for the next stage hes gonna have some very interesting questions

[half quarry]

ab will cook this stage trust

[dreamy turtle]

i saw a tiktoker throwing a fit that yuru posted that game in sub announcements and told ppl to play it

[digital oar]

live stage is only relevant when nag is there

[inner surge]

BRING XOPT UP

[young sand]

i dont even wanna mention what noahs are doing

[bold gale]

no ab is gonna be comp this stage

[inner surge]

HE ACC PLAYS FYE GAME

[bold gale]

on my soul

[young sand]

genuinely so useless

[peak mural]

It’s insane, they jump to conclusions and just go on to barrage the team with insults for nothing 💔

[supple pier]

dude ik who ur talking about it’s the dude with like the orange hair or wtv lol

nely

[bold gale]

its the stark avatar guy

[inner surge]

same ppl who will glaze als

[bold gale]

he pmo bro

[dreamy turtle]

i cant even remember their name but every vid i see from them is just shitting on av for the dumbest things

[peak mural]

ALS players are zombies 😭

[supple pier]

yeah think his name is nelly

[bold gale]

besides me

i only hop on for codes

[inner surge]

son

[bold gale]

and the occasional dabble

when im bored

cause av rlly dont got replayability rn

[digital oar]

we don't have the right to call them zombies ngl

[dull grove]

Hello Valk. What if instead of skins for Inf lb rewards we dont get any rewrads for like 3 updates and then get a unit and then the same thing again.

[bold gale]

manual replayability

[young sand]

no midas on my idol with like 3k+ pearls used

fuck that game lol

[digital oar]

the av community is equal in stupid levels

[bold gale]

doesnt even matter cause everyone has it now

[peak mural]

Yeah same, won’t be hopping on anymore tho, community picked Simon over Reinhard 🫩

[bold gale]

example right here

[finite stone]

how

[bitter locust]

I'ma be real, I pay the hate zero mind. Even if I don't like the state of the game with all the easy content and shit. It very obviously is working. People can say whatever they want analytics always speak for themselves.

[finite stone]

its a 1/500 since theres 2 mythic traits

[young sand]

i truly loved it when i was grinding the game for 3 hours to get 50 pearls and suddenly they started giving out 1000s like it was nothing

[peak mural]

We do, the best ALS player is worse than the worst AV player

[digital oar]

i bet your ass was complaining about obito vf quest

[bitter locust]

Youll never please everyone and unfortunately AV is a business that feeds a bunch of families, so ts gets ran like a business. We wanna push the best product we possibly can, but we also want the game to be as successful as possible. So we are going to heavily favor what works.

[digital oar]

av community is the only one that complain when a stage req you to actually play it

[finite stone]

i grinded ALS TOURNEYS for pearls, pearl system sucks i hope theres nothing similar coming soon in av

[dreamy turtle]

av the only community that says auto upgrade makes you interact with the game more

[inner surge]

osamason vanguard when 👀👀👀👀👀👀

[peak mural]

Most ALS players hate AV because AV actually requires you to play it 😭

[young sand]

it is indeed successful

[inner surge]

fuckinf hate people who want auto upgrade

[young sand]

but we would gladly appreciate content not being cakewalk

[inner surge]

lit just go afk atp

[young sand]

or atleast make it optional

[bitter locust]

So would I

[dreamy turtle]

i dont even hate the idea, but like the arguments are always so bad

[craggy dagger]

i think some communication would be nice it wont put yall into debt to get some

[bitter locust]

I play the game too

[peak mural]

I think it could be useful for some occasions but it’s not necessary, it’s a very situational thing honestly

[digital oar]

dude, av players here ask for auto upgra like a bunch of mosquitos and a good amount of people called obito vf quest hard or impossible 💀
als and av communities are equal

[young sand]

like escanor is right there bro

[bitter locust]

I yap here whenever I'm not doing nothing, just busy most of the time.

[finite stone]

lowkey what we need is comunity stages, like geometric dash and that mario game

[peak mural]

Kinda sucks loosing because your mom called you to help her do the dishes 😭

[young sand]

he will solo %90 of the stages for you

and people still ask for auto upg

[bitter locust]

Even rn I'm here bc I'm just waiting on another dev to get online to finish up some stuff.

[rich rain]

console players...

[craggy dagger]

yeah i always see you in chats its nice but theres not really any professional communication on updates etc

[round bay]

I think elemental confluence is a good start, more modes like it in the future would be nice. Also is the randomized tournaments that vary with brackets change happening or was the poll too close

[dreamy turtle]

they want unit originality gone
just like the ppl asking for overcrit to become a default thing for the game, making broly's passive useless

[narrow verge]

Valk can you say hi to me before u leave ts chat 🥺

[bitter locust]

"Still working" would be 90% of the messages

[inner surge]

yo how many modellers do u guys have rn

[bitter locust]

people would complain more than if we just said nothing

[bold gale]

i was complaining abt all vg famjar quests

[bitter locust]

6 i think

[inner surge]

cause ik thien had to do most of them right

for 9.0

[digital oar]

to be fair it was only one guy who asked that

[inner surge]

oh damn

[bitter locust]

iunno, I just know I asked for it to be done. Out of my hands now.

[dreamy turtle]

was it? i remember like 2-3 suggestions about it

idk suggestions all kinda blend together
so many are just a lil dumb

[round bay]

Good to know

[inner surge]

after seeing the 6 hour deku vid i can honestly see how the modelling phase takes a while

respect his grind

[bold gale]

reset it every update but scale it harder and harder each time

[digital oar]

a fucking what

[inner surge]

good quality takes time ig

[digital oar]

6 hours?

[bold gale]

or

[digital oar]

💀

[inner surge]

for the hair

[digital oar]

bro what

[bitter locust]

Our modelers normally take 4 to 5 days per model

[young sand]

at the end of the day they are casual players that only want the game to be more ''convenient'' i would call it slop instead

[bitter locust]

[dreamy turtle]

nah man the tiktoks said that modeling takes 5 minutes and we should have all remodels done already
lazy devs

[inner surge]

it’s on thien’s youtube channel go watch

[coarse frigate]

id rather both sides getting pleased by just adding something for both sides, but i think you said you had something in the works regarding hard content it wasj ust gonna take awhile?

[young sand]

they dont give a fuck about unit originality

[inner surge]

💀

[bitter locust]

Thien has a yt channel? thats so peak

[young sand]

they jus wanna stay afk

[dreamy turtle]

just out of all things a crit unit buff is wild😭

[bold gale]

Are you not in his DC server

[digital oar]

it is true that deku model is from another anime. the face and stuff

[bold gale]

I'll invite you js lmk.

[inner surge]

yeah he just posted a modelling vid so far

[bitter locust]

nah

[round bay]

Brandon the boss sweatshop strat, aura

[coarse frigate]

Ima be real i think people have an extreme lack of development knowledge/ignorance, shit takes WAY longer then people think when you have to consider so many variables.

[inner surge]

ur so right

[bold gale]

Will I invite you

[dreamy turtle]

i dont fucking know

[bold gale]

👀👀

[bitter locust]

nah

send me the vid tho

[dreamy turtle]

everything seems fine there to me

vsjw best unbound

[half quarry]

vsjw unbound

[tribal jasper]

ConvivialTiger

[inner surge]

is it true that update 17.5 is the 8th db vanguard

[young sand]

?

[inner surge]

LMAOOO

[digital oar]

send link twin

[dreamy turtle]

now what part of that message triggered the command

what

[bitter locust]

the 12th actually

[young sand]

what is ts

[round bay]

Its aura

[inner surge]

ohhhhhh

[half quarry]

best unbound

[tribal jasper]

ono

[bold gale]

Can't send

not high enough lvl

[half quarry]

dumbest bug hunter

[tribal jasper]

6clipse

[bold gale]

https ://youtu.be/yJfumN_val0

[bitter locust]

dm it

[inner surge]

i dont think i can even send links here

[bitter locust]

that work

[digital oar]

dms

[half quarry]

best tester

[tribal jasper]

boip

[timid spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1291141058650046547/1439395759802945726/image.png?ex=691efa83&is=691da903&hm=ed42fd834b95b73a0af5638ddf44b39da1954fbb127a68ca46083c44653a85f4&

[finite stone]

....

[half quarry]

dumbest tester

[tribal jasper]

Age

[bold gale]

sent

[finite stone]

what is this clanker saying

[bitter locust]

thien is like HELLA talented

[young sand]

what does thien do

[bitter locust]

Like lowkey, I feel like thiens been doing even better since we went with custom models

[young sand]

the models?

[bold gale]

I've noticed he's so cool

[timid spruce]

who’s thiens

[bitter locust]

he made dio oh

[inner surge]

soooooo much work

[digital oar]

make them work 24/7

[coarse frigate]

I find it funny as soon as we get hard content i think the loud minority probably will immediatly just stop 😭 both sides are satisfied you guys just win in general

[inner surge]

🤤

dio oh model is so good man

[peak mural]

TikTok is just filled with idiots, they will be the first ones to complain of a model isn’t good too

[inner surge]

seeing that sneak acc like brought a smile to my face

[bitter locust]

wrong so so so wrong

[tropic cedar]

Those who know man

[young sand]

was it his idea to make the vanguard unit's hair move cuz that shit is so cool

[round bay]

@tender lichen

[tropic cedar]

Also no way this thread still running

[bold gale]

can we vc together.

asmr boy

[inner surge]

and what are you gonna do about it punk.

[bitter locust]

I think that was Kazi

[coarse frigate]

maybe not stop but i think it wont be as LOUD as before let me rephrase that 💀

[bitter locust]

kazi leads that part of the game

[dreamy turtle]

straight yapping about random ass shit

[young sand]

ic

[tropic cedar]

Go back to illusion man

[bitter locust]

Yeah and instead the people who normally dont complain will

[inner surge]

av dry rn this all we got

[bitter locust]

And guess which side is louder

[bold gale]

sorry

[bitter locust]

Not the ppl asking for harder content

[inner surge]

i think more ppl should watch that thien vid tho

[bitter locust]

thats fs

[digital oar]

we need 20 vf

[tropic cedar]

@tender lichen @round bay

[inner surge]

to see that it’s not laziness on the modellers side

[round bay]

I saw man

[young sand]

whats his yt name

[inner surge]

it just does take that long

[bold gale]

Yo tell thien to post that hair model video in sub announcements

[inner surge]

that’s how it is for high quality models

[bold gale]

only valid shit post in sub announcements

[bitter locust]

Theins a big boy

[inner surge]

i think just thien nguyen

[bitter locust]

if he wanted to do that he couldve

[coarse frigate]

i phrased that TERRIBLY my bad LMAO at least you get what i mean now, i think the only way you can really do hard content and to satisfy both sides is making said hard content not necessary for getting any new units etc and just make it a grindslop or other ideas 😭

[bold gale]

maybe he's scared 👀

[inner surge]

😭

[coarse frigate]

and evne then i think people are gonna complain, you kinda cant win

[inner surge]

nah ngl it would come off as like

[bitter locust]

There is no pleasing both sides

[inner surge]

he posted it in his discord

[bitter locust]

you have to understand

theres polar opposite sides in AV

[half quarry]

we all love av tiktok

[young sand]

bro i searched up thien nguyen and asmr eating/cooking vids came up

[coarse frigate]

yea pretty much what i said, you cant win at all 😭

[young sand]

😭

[digital oar]

there is like 10 thien nguyen
which one

[dreamy turtle]

wou discourse is the perfect example of that

[inner surge]

SON 😭😭😭😭😭

[robust fox]

Yo dev man add a Yamamoto vf and my soul is yours

[bold gale]

http s://youtu.be/yJfumN_val0

[bitter locust]

ppl complained about act 8

[inner surge]

idk bro try like thien 6 hour modelling or sum

[coarse frigate]

i guess going with the majority kinda does make the most sense to be fair, i think im just gonna have to accept where the game is going

[round bay]

Okay well this is obvious sarcasm from what i can tell

[bitter locust]

Act 8 I beat insanely easy very first try

[coarse frigate]

aint no mf way

[bold gale]

me too ok so we're basically the same level

[coarse frigate]

i beat it my 2nd try and the first time was because i literally forgot about griffith as a boss

[young sand]

HOW

[coarse frigate]

😭

[bitter locust]

So like idk what people want me to tell them

[supple pier]

if u needed any ideas to make the next cipher i thought maybe u could hide hints/ red herrings inside the AV lobby/ item descriptions (i just want a cipher 😭)

[half quarry]

can we please get better pathing options for summons on multi lane maps

[dreamy turtle]

you only lose if super unprepared like i was first attempt

[bitter locust]

If everyone can beat the stage, some ppl upset too easy but everyone still playing the game

[coarse frigate]

pretty much how i lost, i just forgot about wormhole as a boss mechanic

[bitter locust]

if some people cant beat the stage, those ppl are no longer playing the game

[digital oar]

youtube send me a video of a asian guy talking for 7 hours

[bold gale]

valk who's idea is it to add those lil live events in game pre update like broly and Griffith

[peak mural]

Seriously, all they had to do was check the bosses and place in the back. I saw someone with a full team of monarch meta broken units (Broly included) complaining about it being too hard 😭

[bold gale]

they're rlly cool

[dreamy turtle]

i brought 2 dps, gogeta and broly, broly up front with domain popped, didnt stand a chance when griff spawned

[young sand]

broly ehhh

[bitter locust]

Broly was my idea, griffith was Py's

[junior hull]

how

[young sand]

griff was acc cool

[digital oar]

bro someone give me the link in dms 😭

[young sand]

sorry valk

[robust fox]

I think the main issue is that there’s no truly hard content other than infinite and even then it’s rather easy since everyone uses the same Strat

[inner surge]

😭

[round bay]

Was kinda nice to not 1 tap everything for once but yeah it definitely wasnt hard, you get too much money by wave 35 for it to be a "hard" stage imo

[bold gale]

I gave it bro

[inner surge]

place broly at back and u win 🔥🔥🔥

[bold gale]

cool way of interacting

[coarse frigate]

had kaguya escanor sukuna and jiji with escanor placed in the back cause his range is good to cover griffith for awhile so i could take him out, that and the nukes that i had for them both

[bitter locust]

Yeah and I have plans to work on it, but plans take time.

[round bay]

Do you lol?

[peak mural]

I don’t fucking know, I genuinely scratched my head about them finding it sooo hard. I did it first try with Broly, sukuna, escanor and Vsjw

[robust fox]

I think the optional hard mode suggestion where it buffed rewards by a certain amount but made it x times harder was a good solution

[timid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-kitten-kitty-stormtroopers-gif-15992525

[digital oar]

bro im mobile

[inner surge]

and some supports ig but broly is that guy man

[bold gale]

Js copy the link and remove the space between http and s

[digital oar]

and the link send me to q math video

[timid spruce]

idk if you even saw it valk, but would something like World Bosses that I suggested not really work

[peak mural]

Broly + other dps + some cc could easily do it

[inner surge]

what emotion does this convey

[coarse frigate]

which is a good thing!! pretty much the only thing i want right now in the game and some other minor issues just something fun that im able to do over and over that doesnt feel like a slog

[bitter locust]

no its not wanna know why

[dreamy turtle]

kinda has to be minor reward buffs or it just becomes the default option like cid act 2

aint nobody doing cid act 1 even when they complain about how annoying cuffs are or the tower code resetting when wrong

[bold gale]

Was act 8 being made useless on purpose a good idea do you think

[robust fox]

I see,okay great. While I’m at it… YAMAMOTO FAMILIAR

[dreamy turtle]

cuz reward buff too good

[bitter locust]

people will see a harder mode that rewards better and see its the optimal grind option. Then complain once they cant clear the optimal grind options. Case and point AoT Ex Stage

[robust fox]

Yeah go ahead

[young sand]

it will be 🥭 'd unless its REALLY hard

[young sand]

this too

[dreamy turtle]

all modes will be macrod
cant really stop it

[young sand]

they gotta make it insanely hard and scale to 4 players

[bold gale]

you can never un🥭 something

[young sand]

if they wanna stop 🥭

[peak mural]

It’s not, once the rewards are soo much better the optional really starts weighting on you and they won’t like the fact they can’t beat it and will complain about it.

[young sand]

so yeh

[digital oar]

ban people who use them so nobody 🥭

[inner surge]

bro i deadass remember seeing a suggestion to NERF PASSION CONFLUENCE because they were TOO LAZY TO GET ELPHELT

[robust fox]

I believe not ex level hard but something just harder, keeping ex stages on a level of their own

[young sand]

i'd want more rewards for manual players too but

[round bay]

Then 4 ppl will just afk together

[bitter locust]

Alot of your guys suggestions to make both sides happy I have already tried and its blown up in my face.

[young sand]

it is how it is

[coarse frigate]

we saw how that played out with GG ex stage

[dreamy turtle]

and how do we find the ppl who macro

[bitter locust]

Then ppl will complain its too easy

[bold gale]

av going down to als levels

[round bay]

Get hired by roblox and add ahk detection to it

[coarse frigate]

to be fair i never even had a problem with 4 player scaling, i just absolutely HATED the boss mechanic for that stage that made it feel awful to do

[dreamy turtle]

nobody likes forced multiplayer
it only worked in aa cuz it was scaled to 1.5 ppl and allowed up to 6

[digital oar]

hire a stalker

[bitter locust]

You just have to accept at some point, that you cant please everyone

and have to go with the majority

[robust fox]

I see, in that case just do what makes the most sense. Let people complain even if you make it hard and make content easier even if people complain. Keep it balance you know

[hoary heron]

as far as the difficulty issue goes, it feels like you just kind of have to pick a side 🥀

[bold gale]

Orrr cause the matchmaking was good

[young sand]

i think it would significantly decrease to 🥭 use if that was a thing, maybe by about %50 to %60 because people are so lazy they cant be bothered to find teammates to 🥭 together

[round bay]

Yeah the unit stealing mechanic is so weird

[bold gale]

😭😭

[dreamy turtle]

eh

[bold gale]

No don't eh thus

[bitter locust]

I can't just let people complain when contents too hard bc they stop playing.

[round bay]

Half the cleanses work on it the other half dont it doesnt make sense

[dreamy turtle]

i almost never got teamates that werent garbage at the game

[coarse frigate]

unfortunately, im in this game for the long haul at this point i've been here since demon slayer so i'm just gonna have to adjust to what this game direction is going pretty much LOL

[eternal schooner]

i mean the difference was 2 hours vs 12 absolutly no one wants to spend 12 hours grinding for 1 unit that isnt even good outside of a few game modes and a dedicated team

[bold gale]

Timezones ig

[dreamy turtle]

and rerelease was filled to the brim with macros

[bold gale]

eu players were all comp

[inner surge]

imo i think the best thing u guys should appeal to reward wise for late game players is phoenix/corrupt/elemental shards, as most newer players who can’t beat harder modes don’t even have familiars to be using them on/simply don’t care when they are more neuron activated by rrs

allowed later game players to minmax

and a hard mode

that ppl who are worse wont complain abt

[dreamy turtle]

i would be lucky to have mfs even bring buffers🥀

[inner surge]

cause they don’t care about the rewards

[bold gale]

Yeah no I was the buffer and the DPS whenever I manually played

[bitter locust]

Thats what events are, thats what confluence is

[dreamy turtle]

not like it mattered cuz i had uniques so i never really needed the teamates but they were usually just not good

[inner surge]

rrs in this economy aren’t even the issue anymore

[inner surge]

yeah that’s fair

[hoary heron]

unironically i think #1437150912656441385 is the best solution to the difficult content issue bc it's not something that you can consistently grind due to the fact that they're only playable once a day or smthn, meaning it wouldn't end up like a cid act 2 or EX stage situation

[bitter locust]

Confluence is like the only thing with "difficulty" thats worked out. LOL

[young sand]

btw what was the reason on gg legend stage that if it was your first run ever without restarting the enemies would NEVER come from the right path

[inner surge]

i like confluence a lot it’s just the replay ability ruin that sucks

[bold gale]

Are you leaving us uneventless till 9.5

[robust fox]

I see. At some point I believe there should be a certain threshold however, where content is hard but not impossible, like act 8 is. Speaking of act 8 would it be possible to buff the rewards? To like 40/50k? it’s so easy to farm act 9 but it’s unbelievably boring for non 🥭 user like me

[dreamy turtle]

bugs lol

[bitter locust]

Valk please I need this. My game is kinda eventless.

[supple pier]

are we gonna get a new batch of events? the current ones we always get are boring , events have a lot of potential imo

[young sand]

it worked out because it was applicable to both casuals and better players

[eternal schooner]

u got plans for hard content but is elemental confluence going to get updated with new cosmetics, maps, or modifiers in the meantime?

[robust fox]

Speaking of events add a Yamamoto vf. I stay pushing the agenda

[robust fox]

Yamagoat

Goatmoto

[bitter locust]

Youll see eventually

[coarse frigate]

Whoever added Events into the game that was one of the best decisions i've seen this game make im not gonna lie LOL

[bitter locust]

Just know stuff takes time

[inner surge]

imo gg ex was the most fun i’ve had playing av cause i was playing with friends but i do completely understand the flaws with locking a whole unit behind it lol, i think in the future the aot legend stage way is good where the unit is obtainable outside of ex but just lower chances. just wish that aot legend stage was acc more challenging lol

[young sand]

resetting elemental confluence and changing nothing about it i think was a pretty big lame tho but im assuming it wwas only because its anni

[bitter locust]

I did, I pushed for it since 6.0

[bold gale]

Js bring back valentine event but with like the 20 rerolls a day thing and we all g.

[young sand]

also zodd just became cakewalk since you could stack the points

after the reset

[dreamy turtle]

it was either that or nothing

[bitter locust]

and 7.5 was the update where I finally got a lot of things I was pushing for, for a very long time.

[supple pier]

new events plz , 2x shiny and familiar folly the only ones ppl look forward too

[bold gale]

And then make shiny event permenant ✌️✌️

[round bay]

Only issues with confluence are the absurd disparity in strength between elements. Maybe this second ones just me but its kinda annoying to just never be able to use all the monarchs you have, i think increasing hp scaling by like 10x should've given you the same bonus at traitless

[young sand]

yuh that was why im saying it was prob bcz its anni

[inner surge]

4x odyssey event when 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

[bold gale]

80 rerolls 👀

[round bay]

Vf is dropping in 3 hours trust

[coarse frigate]

thank you valk, just from the perspective of someone whos playing for as long as i have, its easily my favorite thing that was added into the game LOL people able to have double effects for certain things actually gave me more of an incentive to grind for a certain thing

[bitter locust]

It was done because it takes zero time to do so the devs could keep focusing on other stuff.

[supple pier]

🫩🫩

[lament jackal]

👀

[inner surge]

odyssey needs 5x share rewards to be worth time

[pure galleon]

Hi valk may I ask why did you guys claimed the upd took so long cuz of the remodels but when the upd got released a lot of remodels didn't even got released?😔 Like where's the jjk remodels and stuff like that also the quality of life and changes in the game

[bold gale]

Do it again rq

[supple pier]

grinding VF isn’t fun

[bold gale]

I'm 500 off wou pity

[young sand]

odyssey needs rewards not going to void when you disconnect

[proven root]

familiar folly sneak

[round bay]

Its free rrs or a cool unit man better than 2x summer currency

[coarse frigate]

Especially with stuff like familial folly that makes me wanna actually play odyssey or other things for corruption crystals phoenix shards etc

[inner surge]

a saving progress feature would be great but ofc data issues

[bold gale]

true

[bitter locust]

Do you think anni wasn't already mostly done model wise before the update? We had to redo all the anni models themselves.

[supple pier]

having better corruption c3 helps a lot

[craggy dagger]

add armor

[bold gale]

Did the DMCA include vfx or no

[humble coral]

dio nerf when?

[proven root]

familial folly is a scam, I've gotten a total of 2 c3s in about 50 corruptions inside the event

[coarse frigate]

Wasn't it like 12 out of 14 of them had to be completely remade? that shit takes TIME 😭

[bitter locust]

nah

just designs

[supple pier]

“free rr” av is literally a reroll simulator already 😭

[inner surge]

also ik u prolly can’t disclose info abt this yet but are you guys going to go down the same path for the fall sort of event as you did for the summer where the new mode doesn’t let u use ur own units

[bold gale]

🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

[bitter locust]

idk the number, it was a lot tho

[round bay]

Better than sitting in anni act 9 bro

[young sand]

btw valk what does shinsoku and (john) do in terms of development?

[inner surge]

because not being able to use the units i’ve spent time building kinda sucked

[dreamy turtle]

john?

[bitter locust]

I think people would be very angry if we did that.

[craggy dagger]

can we get the next vanguards element as a sneaky little leak

[inner surge]

esp when it was the best resource farm

[dreamy turtle]

who tf is john

[inner surge]

😢

[pure galleon]

So like are the other remodels will be released next upd? Like jjk units?

[young sand]

REAL

game decided to spam me with c4s with every god birb potential birb i had

[bold gale]

valk was wou designed with multiple paths in mind or what

[supple pier]

not rlly

[lethal furnace]

next vanguard better be water element cuz its kinda buns rn

[bitter locust]

Shin codes in the passives I cook up, shins amazing. And John is debugger/penntester. John is really good too.

[bold gale]

wou is frowned upon cause of multipath

[coarse frigate]

I think people should have expected the wait to be that long, but like i said before i think people have a severe lack of development knowledge/ignorance on what ACTUALLY goes on behind the scenes, I was expecting the anni update to take longer then it actually did to come out tbh

[bitter locust]

I deadass think we have the most talented dev team on roblox.

[leaden ruin]

Aw yes John vanguard the founder of AV

[young sand]

look at the game bro

[lethal furnace]

oh so very talented devs please bless us up with a gogeta familiar 🤞

[dreamy turtle]

i do know john vanguard
hes the cc

[inner surge]

wdym arx ai code is tuffer

[young sand]

could it be done with als devs

[chrome grove]

no

[coarse frigate]

I think thats cause you guys left out unit cosmetics completely for later so you didn't have to delay it even more or that would have been the timeframe i was thinking

[bold gale]

crating has been there since day 1

[bitter locust]

why do you think there was so many bugs with it.

[supple pier]

do you think if ur team was a bit bigger the updates would be able to release quicker or does it not matter much

[inner surge]

😭😭😭

[dreamy turtle]

"should we update"

[hoary heron]

definitely true in the ATD sphere

[inner surge]

js doing whatever bro

[bold gale]

what's your top 3 atds rn

[dreamy turtle]

that ss is so damn funny

[inner surge]

furry td 3 times

[bold gale]

ag right below ts

[hoary heron]

genuinely i don't think that any atd is worth playing like AV is

[young sand]

i loved it when i was 30 minutes into playing arx and i had 22k trait rerolls

[lament zinc]

it was like a 1:10 ratio

[young sand]

so peak

just from using codes

[bold gale]

also valk are you scared of anime girl tower defence coming soon?

agtd

[dreamy turtle]

ag update really said lets 10x the roll time when everyone already has inf rr

[inner surge]

av had its time

[lethal furnace]

end of av

[inner surge]

it’s been a nice run guys

[bold gale]

need to let it pass now.

[pure galleon]

Hi valk please read my suggestions https://discord.com/channels/1205546848035799081/1436703355291566090 it's just a quick read pls pls I'm begging you on my knees pls pls

[coarse frigate]

Exactly LOL, Pretty much people dont consider the insane amount of variables that doing something to the games code can do, say you add a new gamemode and it can cause a ripple effect that can fuck up everything else pretty much, But most people dont know about this which is why im saying lack of development knowledge really makes people think it should be fast when no this shit takes time 😭

[young sand]

meme defense also coming

[bold gale]

ag like my comfort game blusd.

[young sand]

we love watching 15 minute trailers right guys

[bold gale]

✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️😭

[dreamy turtle]

boi they aint ever dropping

[timid spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fate-fate-go-saber-crying-gif-10552694

[coarse frigate]

i am absolutely not supporting that game in the slightest LOL

[bold gale]

Ea was meant to drop nearly a month ago

[dreamy turtle]

the new trait is dumb as fuck
i need 10x trait rr speed

[young sand]

how tf will they even update im curious

[lament zinc]

av 2.0 in terms of releasing delays

[bold gale]

I need rerolls I'm kinda broke in ag

[chrome grove]

no way we gonna have a "G" game for ATD omg

[bold gale]

I have nothing on my sukuna

[bitter locust]

I'm not a studio dev, I cant do nun with optimization.

[young sand]

theres not really like relevant relevant memes out there except 67

[leaden ruin]

I have no faith in that game zuko and zai are known for delaying

[bold gale]

Are you scared of anime girl tower defence coming out soon?

[dreamy turtle]

half the shown stuff is barely memes

just popular ips

clash royale units, sans undertale

[young sand]

fr

[hoary heron]

meme defense is corny

[pure galleon]

But do you have the ability to show that suggestion to studio devs?🥹

[young sand]

they also copied the pizza party map from tds

[dreamy turtle]

dude the ea sneak i saw, lineup had memes but fuck it looked so bad

[young sand]

😭

[coarse frigate]

pretty much though im just gonna cruise along with the game direction that its going, i think it will be fine

[young sand]

looks the same

[chrome grove]

i aint touching meme defense its slop but the memes made it even more unappealing

[dreamy turtle]

67 kid on banner makes me want to end myself

[timid spruce]

meme defense will kill all other atds

trust

[inner surge]

when is paragon coming back with odyssey rewards shuffling mutators and setting auto card choice priority in the pregame

[bold gale]

Nooo dont

[coarse frigate]

meme defense also has terrible owners from what i hearD?

[inner surge]

yeah on your soul it will

[dreamy turtle]

announced the delay 2 days after ea was meant to start🔥

[young sand]

it was funny to see them delaying the game trailer by a month

[timid spruce]

on everyone but me

[lament zinc]

idk why people hate it so much with auto card its literally odyssey but better

[young sand]

and drop a 15 minute release trailer

that they already showed

as a sneak

[leaden ruin]

They’re gonna have worse delays than av

[coarse frigate]

didnt one of the owners yell at people for accidently speaking over him on a stage? and like bullied his own moderator in front of 600+ people because he stuttered on stage as well?

[inner surge]

i don’t even mind odyssey but imo it shouldn’t be one or the other, it should he both and 1 is more optimized for solo gameplay while the other more encourages team gameplay

[dreamy turtle]

nah man they said 2 week updates, they will hit all those deadlines trust

[inner surge]

buff odyssey rewards and rework paragon trust

[young sand]

just like av

[bitter locust]

I'm be real, I have been asked to work at basically every single TD but ALS and AA. And I dont see anything coming near AV anytme soon from what I have been told or seen. A lot of devs straight up lack the gameplay knowledge or creativity to create fun, interesting and unique gameplay loops that keep peopl engaged and wondering whats next.

[dreamy turtle]

idk i wasnt there for it
i heard ppl trash the owner cuz of it tho

[supple pier]

valk serous question, regarding skins like from shop or bundles, are you guys able to add skins of characters let’s say from cartoon network and stuff like that? cuz obviously a cartoon character isn’t gonna be a unit but they could be cool skins, idk how it can work due to DMCA just wanted to know

[lament zinc]

😭

[coarse frigate]

its kinda deserved im not gonna lie, its kinda crazy

[young sand]

they jus following the td trend

[leaden ruin]

I’ve watched them take 5 months for small content updates before they cannot hit deadlines

[coarse frigate]

heard there was other things that happened

[dreamy turtle]

yea its kinda insane they said nothing for 2 days after it was meant to drop then said "sory guys will release before 2026"

[lament zinc]

prob wouldnt be able to cuz they would bave to make them very different and at that point why make it

[young sand]

anime conquest

[coarse frigate]

makes me kinda appreciate AV alot more when im realizing it could be far worse LMAO

[young sand]

before 2026 guys

the real av killer

[lethal furnace]

atp i wouldn’t be surprised if meme defense turns out to be a rugpull

[young sand]

ab said its good so it MUST be good

[bitter locust]

we can do whatever we want bc we just remodel anyways.

[supple pier]

wdym? cuz like a unit like buu could easily have a ben 10 skin cuz transforming to a diff alien each time

[bold gale]

have you worked on any other games besides av

[bitter locust]

Lots of money spent on lawyers to make sure we good

[bitter locust]

a shitload atp

[supple pier]

LETS GOOOO, thanks for answering

[coarse frigate]

you guys actually got me into the tower defense genre as a WHOLE, this was my first proper TD that i have ever played or gotten into so this sounds corny but it actually does have alot of meaning to me LOL

[dreamy turtle]

we may have bad update times but we dont promise deadlines that cant be reached

[round bay]

You clearly don't understand the power of "we will make a 100000 rr 100000 pearl code if we hit 200k ccu"

[robust fox]

Hey Valk, any news on a Yamamoto vf?

[chrome grove]

worddd

[robust fox]

I gotta know king

[lament zinc]

i meant as that they would have to remodel it so much to the point it just LOOKS like the characters its supposed to be, so wouldnt really make people wanna buy it

[round bay]

That is true innovation right there

[bitter locust]

LOL

[young sand]

so good

[coarse frigate]

agreed 💀

[bitter locust]

Oh also didn't work for AD

[young sand]

av is dying fosho

[bold gale]

any big ccu games?

[young sand]

when anime conquest comes out

[bitter locust]

But every other ATD as either asked me to work for them or I did for a bit

[bitter locust]

what do you consider big ccu?

[robust fox]

Valk as long as you add Yamamoto vf av will never die

Trust

[round bay]

Astdx too?

[bold gale]

20k+

[eternal schooner]

if you do a mha update are the models going to be just as unrecognizable as current deku or is it possible to make it closer to og

[bitter locust]

Oh they didn't also true

[round bay]

Now he will crash the game after 1 ability use, not 2

[inner surge]

doubt they could do much

[robust fox]

On everyone’s souls the next vf is Yamamoto

[bold gale]

did anime guardians?

[lethal furnace]

drop hint for next vf plzzz 🤞

[robust fox]

Y e s .

[eternal schooner]

yea probally not unfortunately

[young sand]

valk if theres ever another jojo update in the next 5 years i want you guys to go all out on shiny stand models plspls

[lament zinc]

forget that, drop valentine vf again

[inner surge]

from what we know there isn’t one planned till 9.5 bro

[dreamy turtle]

freddy fazbear