Make official Value list

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[tidal crow]

too early for value list bruh

[blazing fulcrum]

They've already declined making an official value list

The whole point of trading is also that it's community driven

[tidal crow]

true true

[blazing fulcrum]

Prices will eventually stabilize

Community driven value catalogues will grow more steady

AA had an official value list, didn't it? I remember Auric talking about how that ended up being pretty bad LOL

[tidal crow]

homura went so high

[naive swallow]

and how the hell a value list will solve that

people please use your brain, value lists are never good

[blazing fulcrum]

That will still happen regardless of an official value list

That kinda shit just happens

TF2 comes to mind immediately for a trading economy and situations like that

[naive swallow]

value list fans when they find out the list is biased

because aa one was totally good and not bias

[slow arch]

thers already value lists out there

[tidal crow]

yeah unofficial

[naive swallow]

a random idiot can make a list and somehow people will believe him

[blazing fulcrum]

Trading when it is inherently just an awful system in gacha games like this

[slow arch]

yeah fr

[naive swallow]

actually my unit have more value than you because the list say so

emilia owners trying not ask the most stupid shit ever because the stupid list was bias with her

[blazing fulcrum]

My unit have more value because I say so

[vestal acorn]

they going to clown you but i agree

[tidal crow]

they neeed to clown YOU

[naive swallow]

i had a lot of idiots who asked for bp and a add because the shitty list put emilia as more valuable

[slow arch]

everyone rn thinks there units are the most valuable people inherently think this way lol value lists arent all that bad

[blazing fulcrum]

I mean idc if they do, it just adds so many more problems and stifles so much for the game

[naive swallow]

one of them asked for a homura

[blazing fulcrum]

Corruption is a prime example of something that could’ve been more interactive and had usability if familiars weren’t tradable

[slow arch]

or like how AA had like a value counter in the trade menu i think that was a lil neat addition just to guide people a lil bit on values

[blazing fulcrum]

Because AA had an official value list which was just not a good idea

[naive swallow]

AA value list team trying to not glaze emilia and tournament units

[slow arch]

literally anything would help tbh cause a anni 5 bundle for a non shiny esdeath kinda crazy lol

[naive swallow]

she still had a high value even after jiraiya was added

[calm meadow]

I should have elaborated more but what I want is something to help people know values better bc people want insane ass trades, like some guy wanted 2 anni 5 bundles for a diavolo, that's $200 im not paying that for a fucking unit bruh

[naive swallow]

and jiraiya was a direct upgrade

[blazing fulcrum]

trading is community driven and value lists are unofficial for very good reasons.

[blazing fulcrum]

I mean if they want an esdeath, they can pay whatever they want. Or hold off and wait to see things stabilize a little bit more because getting into trading right after release is just silly unless you're trying to shark people

[naive swallow]

value list isn't going to fix someone brain

people will still ask for overpays even if there is a value list

because no sane person follow that shit

[slow arch]

i was just using it as an example because some these trades wild

[naive swallow]

nether, please fix trading

does that game have anything valuable other than shiny yuta

[slow arch]

lol

[blazing fulcrum]

fuck no

they couldn't pay me enough to EVER touch trading

lmao

[naive swallow]

oh yea, i forgot sailor moon existed

her ass took so long to be fixed

[naive swallow]

Save the av trading community. Nether!

[blazing fulcrum]

removed trading

add unit reruns

[blazing fulcrum]

there you go, game saved

[naive swallow]

remove dio oh aswell

[fallen vine]

nod

[ionic sluice]

A shiny diavolo should not be costing over 1k irl currency 💀

[lyric oriole]

oh my god bruh

[sullen raptor]

it should

[slow arch]

someone was doing a bid in one of trading channels saying the offer was 150k in bundles for shiny diavolo lmao

[fallen vine]

people be acting like they will buy it

[ionic sluice]

That's so stupid

[ionic sluice]

[severe holly]

Can you send me the list please? :wilte

[fallen vine]

none of them are worth trusting imo

especially this early

[severe holly]

I mean, a lot of people is using it

[ionic sluice]

Funny idea: rerun every unit that is absurdly priced

[fallen vine]

doesnt mean its good

[mental eagle]

rate my title card

[sullen raptor]

then remove trading atp

what would be the point in that situation

[ionic sluice]

Do you own a diavolo?

[sullen raptor]

no

[severe holly]

cuz i mean, i traded my jinmori, diego and shiny fubuki for shiny okarun and shiny hebano cuz, i mean okarun was a long ahh update and barely any people have him but nobody is trading for him 🥀

[fallen vine]

i dont either but he has a fair point

[severe holly]

Every game has an official tierlist made by their own but, av just released trade without one...

[fallen vine]

there is physically no good reason to have a tl

for trading

[slow arch]

well it doesnt have to be a value list just something to help people with pricing or something

[ionic sluice]

I just think people assuming diavolo is worth over 1k irl currency is stupid

[severe holly]

ik

but, when you have people spending over 1k usd dollars is crazy lol

[slow arch]

like ad having gem caps in their trading booths (before they took caps off) or aa value counter at the bottom of trade menu

[fallen vine]

the people are the ones paying that...

its called a market?

😭

demand drops = lower price

people are still paying that price

hence why its staying

or they get stuck with a unit that will never sell

[blazing fulcrum]

No?

[fallen vine]

due to being too high priced

[fallen vine]

thats the definition of a value list but alr

[naive swallow]

and most of them are bias or shit

[sullen raptor]

fun fact, jojo units will always be highly overpriced, theres something in them that makes people crazy for those

[naive swallow]

people here should look at the yba one

[severe holly]

Ye, you need a tierlist when the number of high value units is owned by a small amount of people, it's like economy gng, they can make that unit like a whole ass monopoly, and it's not bad but making people pay 1k+ it's crazy

[blazing fulcrum]

Then don't pay 1k

[fallen vine]

^

as i said

dont pay 1k

then they are forced with a unsellable unit

[naive swallow]

exactly, pay 2k

[fallen vine]

or they lower the price

like are we just forgetting how a market works?

[blazing fulcrum]

Only you can stop yourself from making horribly stupid overpriced trades right after the system releases

[severe holly]

it's gonna become stable111

[naive swallow]

if they ever make a official one then it will suck if valk is involved

[fallen vine]

any offical one will

its called people have opinions 😭

[naive swallow]

hmmmmm

[fallen vine]

• there legit is no reason to have a offical one

[mental eagle]

official value lists suck cuz i cant shark people

[fallen vine]

players will still do dumb stuff

[mental eagle]

bro u wanna know something people were calling me dumbv for thinking 9.0 would be a disappointment with only trading

[severe holly]

There is, you have a cap on the value and if you pay more it's stupid

[fallen vine]

its almost like this thing called "preferences" exist, which causes people to like other things more than others

[sullen raptor]

you would be surprised how many people answers to the sign of "mlf overpays"

[ionic sluice]

Fair enough, I kinda just settled on getting something people are pricing better

[severe holly]

prob, still diavolo gonna be the most valuable or lb units

[ionic sluice]

ALS is kinda just, whatever the new shiny thing is, as long as the stats are ok you can trade for whatever

[fallen vine]

hell no

birbs

easily

[severe holly]

birbs can be obtained at anytime

[fallen vine]

do yk the rarity

of a perfect

birb

[ionic sluice]

Oh yeah, perfect birbs are crazy

[severe holly]

Still more than a limited unit

[fallen vine]

with the chances

100%

for a LONG ass time

• they can be kept and used FOREVER

[severe holly]

Let me pull one out of my ass rn 🔥

[blazing fulcrum]

we love ventor's
we love ventor's

[fallen vine]

ELUX_shrug

thats gonne be one of the few things i'd consider owners choice really lmao

[ionic sluice]

Gotta enjoy seeing so many zeros

[blazing fulcrum]

I mean yeah

It's the ultimate pipe dream nobody will ever own

But it's neat to see what could be

[tidal crow]

i will own it

[blazing fulcrum]

i believe in you

[tidal crow]

dont worry ill have a spare for you

[versed helm]

vanguardsvalues.gg

ya welcome

[versed helm]

how so

[tidal crow]

because somehow shiny ishtar is more than kaguya and soburo

barley anyone did wl when saburo was here

[versed helm]

is that why everyone and their mom is asking for subaru

[tidal crow]

yes

[slow arch]

the google spreadsheet lowk better than vanguardvalues

[calm meadow]

it def is better than vanguard values

[fallen vine]

I said all are ass