#Pls i beg you to add auto upgrade
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i pee like 6-7 times a day
fuck you bro
im being fr
u gotta learn to read bro
Add auto upg it'll boost player count!!!!!
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Also guys when Will they do stage 9.0
weekend prolly

or nun at all bc the upd wasnt alat
Auto upg solves cuff bug problem on Cid Raid 
Cuff isn’t a bug they did it on purpose
Solo 
Yea it’s not a bug
It's annoying
We know the devs sent you ✌️
Whatever helps you sleep at night
Thx 🫀
I mean yeah, I don't know if the testers really get into balance testing
🌚
the fuck does that even means
ofc is always valk, at it point i will ask a 1v1
he ruined merlin and now the konosuba squad

oh ok
open suggestions bro
LET ME POST MY 20 PAGES SUGGESTION ABOUT THE KONOSUBA SQUAD
I'd make a suggestion about lack of qol
remember to post suggestions so the devs can ignore them
People need to pee bro
Do it this update genuinely sucks in terms of QOL
Just another mcro fest update to get Dio then log off
I mean they are broken alr the only thing is their ass stats
1500% nuke with just 115k dmg monarch
upd 9 unit anyways
Rs
Small worked for 1 night and got Dio

wtf
support unit btw
Their support is bad tho
what were the devs doing for 7 weeks for the upd to be completed in 1-2 days
worst supp in a while
we aint adding this
doesnt he slow and cleanes though
15 second timer Al is still way better
so do so many other better supps tho
doesnt it skip attack 3 once darkness is spawned
slow with that tiny ass circle ain't helping us
I mean you can stagger the timers
so it's basically a 5 second cleanse
All that work to be worse then Al
anything below that is just kinda redundant
not even better stats are saving them
they are useless in everything
why is senator so ass though
raiden too
it's almost as good as Al tbh while being a fraction of the cost
bp units feel so rushed
i feel like htey just threw numbers on senator and called it a day
Honestly I'd rather use them over Al for cleansing
goku was right
who upd feels rushed sum how even wit delay
senators burn doesnt last long enough for him to follow up
his damage is terrible
Al basically only counters the draining debuffers and requires multiple units around/multihits to trigger constantly

u dont read passive
how he a bad support lol
Kazuma's just more consistent cleansing while being cheaper
Please
They have way worse buffs tho
al buff is stronger than the squad
the problem is that you also have to max him to get access to even a single cleanse
squad is better
oh yea dumbass
the unit that only cleanse every 15 seconds is good when debuffs in it game are agressive
"all units this upd will have around the same strength" 😭
can u speak in proper english or no
ur words hurting my brain
True but u got to get 3 of kazuma to the upgrade for the same amount of cleanse
And u gotta time the cleanse a lot of work when u can just use al who has a stronger buff
he only cost 47k to max upgrade
he is really cheap and also provide with repulse
doesnt change the fact u need to max him for cleanse
That’s not hard
konosuba slow is pathetic when is only 30% and have a tiny as hell circle
fr it hits like 2 ppl 😭
was gonna argue but relaised none of u know what ur talking about
aint fun to argue with idiots i got better things to do sorry yall
top 3 support ingame btw
HAHAHAHA
im comp u guys arent unlucky

who ur top 3 supp
why?
Griffith is also a sub dps
answer
I aint gonna leak my tactics for u
a real man doesn't speak ill of al
bottom 20 tactics
really???
tournaments goat
Yea, how do u not know that bud
bro dont know what sarcasm os
Again, Al's still basically just dead weight until you max him. No repulse, no cleanse, just 47k to get a cleanse that is only situationally useful and reliant on certain conditions. He's a better cleanse against drains when the conditions are right, yes, but my point is that Kazuma is just cheaper and much more consistent, not relying on external conditions to cleanse. You really don't need cleanses any more than once every 5 seconds in all honesty.
kazuma is still ass
auch
his nuke is the most useless ability ive ever seen
like, as you upgrade him, the characters have their own stats and stuff?
yea
yeah i think id like that more
darkness should have worked like road spikes in btd
she being a copy paste tank angers me
thats also mid 😭🙏
also mfs only based kazuma kit from 1 episode or what, his ass only do steal
he have a lot more
monarch kazumas nuke is worth 1 single HK attack
and the nuke also fucking stuns kazuma, big W
units from same update
they have the worst shiny,they are the worst support from the update, they have the worst nuke in game and they have the worst remodels from the update
it feels like bully
clearly there was bias in the dev units
I got monarch on kazuma
W MONARCH
Literally after top 5 units everything is so buns
id say spots is worse
Like the drop off from 5 to 6 is actually crazy
What’s different
hes literally worse with monarch, ggs
thats my point exactly lol, it feels like the same image
They just put a blue filter over that shit
nothing is better than something
the shiny look worse than the base model
I wont roll it off lol
didnt say you had to, just get another copy
like look at it shit
Got like NO MATS
I got 2 rainbow, 20 greens
I would say kazuma
auch
At least dot Has a better use.. he can attack off range. Kazuma only a support (mid one)
monarch doesn't make the unit worse so spot is better than kazuma
true...
im genuinely curious how yall would make kazuma a better unit though
change his aoe (its inexcusable)
buff his damage
make him cheaper
make his effects rotate every attack
make nuke not stun him and stun enemies instead for 10 seconds
make every squad member have their own attacks, upgrades and passives
remove kazuma slow
change his aoe from circle to line aoe (replacing the attack animation with him using his bow)
rework darkness from being a tank copy to be a more unique defense
make the nuke one per player
make the nuke disable permanent megumi and debuff kazuma
make kazuma apply marked to enemies
make aqua buff crit chance and crit damage
and a lot more
either all of that or make them only work as a nuke character that doesn't attack and his only purpose is having a big massive nuke
unironically woudlve been a better design choice because why are you making them compete with weather report and skull knight
yet theyre 10x worse than both 😭
oh yea and rework their shiny to be the squad of hakenshimasu
i don't know why their shiny is not them
deku has to be the worst remodel idk what ur on abt
both are shit
i say konosuba one is worse because of aqua model
aqua is still easily recognizable
looks like shit
and it doesnt
it does look like shit
is like sakamoto remodel from aa, is still the same character but still look like shit
acting like spot doesnt exist
they look fine u just love complaining about everything
if we complain hard enough we get this
no it doesnt lol they look normal
the convo must be great
im not blocked by you right 🥺
he blocked me because he couldn't handle i didn't agree with his suggestion btw
well 99% of the time you troll in suggestions
verybtrue
he suggested to nerf rift difficulty meanwhile having monarch vsjw
in general you troll
still sad his ability is not permanent
even without he's insane
insane and fun to use
yup
and then we have dot and kazuma 🤣🤣🤣🤣😳😳🤣😳
crazy to say als did a better job w megumin and ruby
950 deep no mon
😂
got dio in 100 tho
💔💔
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤯🤣🤯
bro stop hurting my feelings
hit harder than a dagger
ruby being a COMPLETE follow up beta
crazy how she's a "DPS" and her dps is so mediocre
just saw this guy with mon kazuma and godly dmg stat on it
pure DPS and does it worse than godzilla
i think they forgot that in order to balance full AOE characters that people with smaller AOEs need to do more damage
valk was NOT doing his job 😂
fumbled everyone but hk, Dio, Godzilla and doomslayer
yeah those are the good ones, wonder of U is kinda good but i dont see him being very helpful most of the time
prob gonna be insane for dmg tournaments
other than tourneys i don't think he's gonna be useful at all
hurt the fact that toru is not even there
wl and
yk the other thing
wou can miss attacks
yeah
and he's 1 hit
and I hate the way his aoe works
4m+ tho if it hits close
only kinda good part abt him
on average you get 3-4 of those hits
only useful in small maps
yeah he's not worth id say
his shiny is so tuff tho
they fumbled literally all banner characters except godzilla
and dio but i mean bffr if they didnt make dio good this update would just go to the trash along with 1.5 and 1.75
hes the highlight of the update bro
yes as clearly stated in my message 💔
"well if it werent for the entire point of the update the update wouldnt be good" 😭
why we trying to make an argument out of nowhere
what do you gain from this, genuinely
bro NO one is arguing
the point of the update was dio so why are u trying to make that a point that the update was bunz
this is what theyve been doing since 7.5 anyways
???
this is the most useless conversation ive had today
genuinely what is the point we are even trying to get to here
nevermind bro
its crazy that dio over heaven and kazuma came from the same update
cat (stupid)
peak
suddenly 200 people agree but when I suggested the same thing i got 200 haters
(i suggested it a few months back)
This game wasn't that absurdly grindy
Suggestions locked or sum?
this game has always been grindy asf from 4.5
Nah they is just the demographic we call the no attention span dumb fucks pc players
Did this guy even play av
Suffer pain on gettingg igris diavolo saiko yama choi bla bla
Even the top 1 trait dps gogeta had no pity
You didn't mention the month 😭
I thought you talking abt release
I approve ^^
the fuck? the game was way more grindy a few months ago
Life with no pity no calendar no codes
Monarch was a dream in upd 0, 3 months for monarch a few months ago, and now you can get monarch within 1 upd
W
Its just the diffrents in aura and rank twin
different group of people
there is the stupid group who want more rerolls and stuff and there is the other one who atleast have one braincell
WE DID IT TWINS!
well to bad the devs seem to lack eyeballs to even see this suggestion
they do look at them a lot, but do they implement them? most of the time, no
can't blame them considering a good amount of suggestions are ermm
and people always star shit that benefit them without them thinking a little
can we get this to 200?
Sadly🥀
i call bullshit
i mean the only time even the good of the good are brought is when the game is on its death bed like dawg it cant be that hard
they look at the really popular ones mostly. its definitely the stage suggestions they do not look at or care for
i dont even know why stage suggestions exist at this point
like?
i can only think about the ones asking for monarch pity reduction
I mean I can tell you guys that Valk at least does look at suggestions fairly often
Or at least used to
so he knows how much the community despises pvp and want it gone forever

they do not i gurantee u idk if the want to feel mysterious or some shit and respond to the ones they want but ill be even suprised
if one of them in the devs time got eyes or isnt blind
pity or god knows what i havent played ts until this update but got so boring and js quit
ik he paid u to say that shit i bet u even some of the devs dont know this channel exist
sure bud, if it helps you sleep at at night
it doesent the day this devs delete this channel i will have the best sleep in a while
that sounds more like an issue you should work on a bit
nah its just the brain damage i get from some people in this channel makes it hard to sleep and question if some ppl here are real
alright man 😭 youre doing too much
well im doing much more then wtv the devs are doing with this channel
hard to do much with a whole nothing burger
unit pity?
💔
unit pity is good, well excluding vanguards one
Pity was being pushed for a while before it finally got added
nah, vanguard pity is still good too
They're the chase goals of an update
yeah fr 🥱
hell no
knowing you are making progress is better than just endlessly grinding and never getting the unit because fuck you
im talking about the state of the game when they added it
6.5?
which upd was 6.5?
that was spring
that was the update that added stage pities
vanguard pity was during 7.5 iirc
u sure 6.5? cuz i swear it was dragon ball lemme confirm rq
that should be the standar for limited vanguard units
nvm to much work imma just trust it was 6.5
fuck that
im speechless
I wholeheartedly disagree, as a player, knowing I'm making actual progress towards the big unit of the update is actually good
It makes me want to grind
Even if it's slow and steady
See how would u like it after getting 1 vanguard after grinding for 2 weeks 24/7 with ur m word
mobile player
and i love doing that when farming escanor
No pity just feels like shit because I never know if I'll get the unit even if I grind like every hour I can
Yea the vanguard gonna be gone before people get it 
that is the point
how nobody plays this game manually
90% of them just m word twin
That's why it's awful from a player standpoint
Also yall severely overestimate how many people actually automate stuff
the player is not always right and giving them pity ruined the game seeing that everyone have escanor
It's not about the player being right
It's about actually giving the slightest inkling of a shit for your player's time, and pity does that exactly

nah its gotta be atleast 96% considering salon and informaliti
btw fuck the automod
that should be the case for normal units
not for vanguards
Again, I still just disagree
They're the main units of the update
People play to earn them
i spent like 12m for gogeta and didnt get him thats just bad game design 😭
being told to go fuck yourself because you just got unlucky no matter how much you grinded the game is a terrible feeling for players and, surprisingly enough, makes them not want to play the game
the fact that no matter how hard you work you might never get the unit you want
isnt a good thing 😭
I don't see why "everyone has the vanguard" is a bad thing either
Like, they're the focal point of the update
Both my kaguya and escanor were pity
Even the dios I got were both pity 
Why wouldn't everyone playing want to get them
i like how they did dio icl
Let's make like dio oh from aa trust
😝
there IS a super rare version that most people wont get
dio was the worst thing ever bro what
but one of the best units in the game isnt locked behind hitting it

U giving me a normal shiny dio when he's tradeable right twin?
The only reason I can see why vanguard pity is a bad thing
Is people worrying about the """value""" of their unit
First disagree I did with owoflexz
In which case, trading is still a shit system 
??? 😭
He wants his non shiny dio value

dio’s the best unit in the game while also being incredibly easy to get with a incredibly low pity, it’s not really balanced where a unit that takes maybe 4 hours max if you get unlucky and can do consistent runs is better than those that take dozens to get
like it took me 2 days to get maxed in this update and I’ve played for at most 8 hours
big thing that balances it out is that he's most likely leaving next upd no 😭
that’s not content, and the ccu reflects that pretty easily
Shiny kaguya twin
Shiny is still valuable but I like how they are doing the new vanguard like units shiny
Its possible to get them shiny even tho if its not that rare
Its 10.5 or 10
????
makes it a little better but not really, it still ruins game balance since he’ll probably be tradable and in bountiful quantities
Good
50k drop in 3 days 
Cuz event units leave 10.5
only serialized will have value
Units are still strong vro
I’m saying people who didn’t get him who want the best unit will have him easily since he’s so common, I’m not talking about serialized Dio
Were talking about how op they are not value
oh fair enough mb
serialized is a good concept, him being so common in his normal state is not

its not that bad 😭
But tbh serialized would be impossible without pity ngl
They should limit pity to 10 if u want
but im not gonna lie this upd was good why did u quit?
trust me it lowers exponentially as more people finish the update and clear out shops, yall saw this with 8.5
but it would also suck for an insane meta unit to be here for an upd and be gone
thats what happened with homura
and people just overvalued her till the end of time
AA?
yeah
yea because level 11 accs getting the best unit by that time is something to ignore

that is 550 hours which is nothing compared to the 690 runs i did for dark mage in aa
its been pretty consistent the past 2 days above 100k and below 110k
that’s the entire point of a td or really any other game though? If I have a unit that’s incredibly broken and can clear a majority of the content, he better be hard to get
that’s like (if you want a HPSB reference) they released a sword at foraging 20 that’s better than a full scrolled Hyperion
or if ALS suddenly released a banner unit that took maybe 3 hours to get that’s better than rimuru
the game felt to slow and boring or what people like to say the "als effect"
and im not like the losers in this server who proceed to mecro the update and say the shit "av is peak"
bullshit
hard content or a long grind should lock the best unit in the game
It's almost like limited units are a terrible system
limited vanguards*
Gilgamesh 😔
acting like rimuru wasnt obtainable in like 2 hours 😭
and how is locking content behind playing for a certain 3 week window the point of a td?????
why make some cool units limited when they can be upd material 
I do hope we get gilg and enkidu back eventually
Limited everything*
gilgamesh second evo without rerun
alright youre geeking
when it’s an atd like AV that takes so long, they need to add lengthy content in order to maintain ccu between updates, ALS can sort of excuse short grinds since it doesn’t take a full month for new content
if you don’t believe me keep looking at the ccu over the next 2 weeks
plsplsplspls
AA is the most non player friendly game bro
In this economy av will die if they do that
the lengthy content is getting serialized dio :Sob
i mean pretty fair but by design this is a good update icl
i love suffering
i wish i could go back in time and do aa grind again
This isn't the time where only 1 ATD Is the best and popular
I approve!!!
making the mc limiteds is stupid
it has to be lengthy content that actually matters and people want to grind
I promise you nobody considers an absurdly rare version of a unit that has a number tacked onto it as “content”
why aren't u a dev
Thats why we got stage 8 to gatekeep hrh
it’s content for the 0.1% of people who will sit there and afk the new mode
it’s so easy to get carried on it tho, and act 7 has decently good rates
not for av, they don’t do planner apps
act 8 is easy if you have monarch guts
well Good ≠ Fun and thats why i prefer aa over this game or even als
aa is pretty challenging and hard if u ask me als got enough variety to keep me grinding
I do want to become a planner for an atd eventually tho
i still havent finished the upd yet im still missing like 5 units so theres 100% more than 4 hours of content
enderian after reading the first part: 🪦
yeah that’s fair, like I like AV but they need to make the grinds more substantial
saying you prefer aa over av is crazy to say but i can see why u say that
I said 4 hours to get Dio, it took me 8 to get every unit evoed besides ruby but she’s horseshit
I’m not gonna get a unit that’s submeta for 15 rrs
I'm only about halfway to dio pity rn
not glazing but u really do cook with passives lol
thank you 
holy glaze
well enderian is a coward he wont do jackshit
erza levels of glazing
I see where ur coming from Cat but I guess I just see the need for Dio being rarer in a diff light
shut up kazuma
I have never seen Kazuma actually like something before
i will only because you will give me a free momo
hop on im free rn
Oh right trading disabled i lowkey forgot
shit is still disabled
i mean sure but u cant lie av is prob the best design td game
😭 15 phoenix shards are 100% worth evoing ruby
is still like the 13th time someone say that
I have 150 of them
yeah i aint arguing that may have the best design
but to me is prob the most boring td i have ever played
maybe if they released more beneficial familiars for 98% of the units in the game I’d be inclined to grind more
unfortunately bird is just 
masochist
black spirit birb yuruzu the only ones worth getting 
aa is the only game where i was excited to grind random anime people
grinding for homura was fun
yeah, Omni boost bird ruins the balance of future familiars unless their hyper specific like Nose
i mean curious question what does make av boring?
spa familiar soon
i mean to me the game is slow which ppl like to say the "als effect"
and overally they is close to 0 challenge in this game tbh
this game desperately needs like even just 1.75x speed bro im doing the sjw dungeon with insanely good units and it still takes just as long as it used to when it first dropped the first waves of any stage are insufferable
just suggest them to make the rewards more worthy to grind then xx speed isn't neccessary
the sjw dungeon being slow is fine for getting the unit but is unexplainably annoying when you have to re do the 20 min stage for 4 trait rerolls but i agree i wasnt totally being serious with 1.75 speed
you are not meant to grind the dungeons in a day🥀 i think for me it took me 2 weeks of grinding for get the 50 ant kills + your gonna need to do that amount to get all the rrs from dungeon so
it doesnt really matter
it really does when it takes 20 minutes of boring slop to get four trait rerolls
its not four
acting like more than 4 rrs matters
mfs be ignoring the entire point when it comes to numbers 🤣
STEAL A BRAINROT
and also im saying this in the context of the shop being reset i already have sjw and am not farming ant kills
deadass bro like i get "dahhhh trait rerolls matter in this game unlike als!" but at a certian point theres literally no more rerolls to get aside from waiting for ur daily/weekly and bounties
its not really a game speed problem rather how the waves are scaled
its also multi-path, so its just how the stage is designed
yeah i just hate the first waves of any match on this game like in act 8 of the anni dungeon it takes like 40 secs to skip wave 1
Its cuz wave duration is 35 seconds regardless of enemy density
And it ends early if all enemies die
speed isnt necessary when you see kill 50 ant boss (the mode genuinely takes 20 minutes)
worldlines too
are ass. they need to change how that shit works
make it 5 boss
they didnt
theres an issue already in game I gave u an example
and i gave you an idea for free
no need to thank me
yup
they even suggested in the past they'd do game speed ups but havent touched it at all
only games I've seen actually do speed up updates is astdx and uhhh... idk. whtver some shit needs to change. most modes after u finish upgrading are just a waiting sim
Sure I feel increasing the game speed is a solution
But being realistic the devs won't do that i just feel waves pass slower that's just my take tbh
especially waiting for money in act 8
god forbid you didnt place a dps close to the spawn
Ong u gotta wait is it 30 seconds or sum shit cba
Well I mean that's really every td game? 🤷
It becomes a waiting Sim after u finish upgrading
Cuz for some reasons no td game on this platform requires strategic difficulty 😩
ig yea
av rn might be the slowest in atd
they've been ramping up game speed but also stagnating in some things idk
Yeah I do get what u mean it's pretty weird I guess 😮💨
it def is the slowest
oh ik they said they'd never add 2x and i assume that applies to any speed change
but like dude worldlines taking 5 mins is crazy 😭
it be worth it if it was 100 rerolls or more cus they reset it every 2 months
please allow suggestions to be posted 😭
yes pls
freedom is here
peak
Stat rr filter
gotta paste it here to see if anything is automodded
@spare glen im sorry to break it to u, but i suggested this back then, the community said the devs will never add this.
yeah its weird how the community switches up like that
Gh
"the community"
and yeah the devs are not adding this no shocker
found the message
but these devs have liquid intelligence though
Just let them have this ig if they keep adding more auto stuff it’s gonna turn into an auto battler sim
i persoanlly dgaf this is game is boring as shit ppl alr mecro this boring ass game
I also have nothing against this suggestion I’d just rather it not become AFK Arena
this game is parcitcally not even an afk arena atp its a fuck afk heaven for mecroers
Crazy lol that’s why I hope it moves away from this state
how many fkin times has this been declined
They hated Jesus
Fuck is that supposed to mean
It being rejected doesn’t mean it bad
You’re comparing religious believes with a game
Yes you get it
We dont and will never need auto upgrade
Only atd without it and same with sell confirmation toggle
Thats a good thing + you can lock units
Sell confirmation would be so easy to add
You can lock them sure but that’s just more tedious shit you’ll forget
Well it's not this devs are people pleasers they don't give a fuck abt making an actually game
They just want money and will keep pushing out content players will play even if it's this crap
av dev btw
its less innovative to make the gameplay not feel like shit?
and dont forget the fucking cid stage and how good birb is
Yeah and these mfs have egos so large it makes blue lock characters look a fish in a pond
Well only anime vanguards apparently
They probably have hard time recognizing if a feature is qol or not
Yeah forgot about that statement is pretty fucking ridiculous
XD
Fr they have
If you hate the game this much why play it 😭
Insane glossing, same script all over again
Kinda crazy this isn't a feature yet
Who said I played the game?
I just come here to waste time tbh
what i meant is the community told me about it, and lowk as of the game's state (grinding YET another banner unit HOW SURPRISING) where u gotta grind the same stage over and over, i think av should lowk change it up
they've changed the stance tho
game is made for 🥭 now
so there's a possibility we get auto upgrade now
just use escanor bro 😔
Auto Upgrade gen needs to be added. upgrading farms is so miserable
gh
We dont need that shi gng
251 will disagree
And that doesnt count the starboard stars
Around 320 will disagree
its needed because it unloads the slog of the game (having to wait for each upgrade)
it improves things for people who dont have access to 🥭 tools too (greatly improves things for console players as well)
gh
just add it for farms
cuz farming is the reason ppl complain about upgrading its so annoying
adding it for JUST farms doesnt make any sense
bro when is the last time u played
today? 😭
the first like 8 waves of any stage u can not do anything and you are literally forced to upgrade farms units just so you can upgrade ur actual dps its such an annoying system
only for farms is a start. but it would improve the whole game experience if everyone had it
bump
un-bump
re-bump
bumpitup
only for farms
only atd game rn without it
would help console and mobile players and people who dont want to run automation
gets around annoying gimmicks like bind (idk what its called)
The next new farm we get will auto upgrade trust
Nah man fuck speedwagon
Having to upgrade 3 placements pmo
speed wagon can atleast be sold and doesnt need another farm to be used
they either give auto upgrade to speedwagon as well as the new farm or give him a heart attack and he dies off
bold to assume it would work while you're cuffed
(because it shouldn't and it'd be stupid if it did)
then whats escanor. and still it'd be better overall
because escanor isn't the same thing as auto upgrade
more like a self-upgrade. No money involved, the unit does it itself
auto upgrade just does the player's action of upgrading for them, so it would logically be stopped by cuffs
yooo lmk the baddie in your pfp
castoria berserker
yooo
Idgaf what anyone says aa is more playable than this fucking game
dude what the fuck
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delusion is a hell of a drug
nah to much work 🥱 tournaments arent really main game content but end game
so u telling me the game that was so boring
ppl decided tiny task wasnt enough and create whole ahk scripts
is more playable then av fuck no?
its the only content when no more updates are coming
well im not that much of an aa fanboy to play it at its current state
AA was without a doubt less playable and enjoyable than AV is
not the two to ask
AV is enjoyable? 🤣 funniest joke i have heard of the day
av is quite literally the most mecro'd game in history
this is the most crazy thing i read in my life
aa was more enjoyable by far
even ad is more enjoyable theres a limit to how much u can glaze av ok?
like bro i aint denying av is better than aa but saying av is more playable are we being deadass?
idk about better
speak for yourself bro
aa literally does not respect your time at all
i mean in terms of design yeah cuz coop was practically forced for most aa stages and if u didnt have unique u were forced to play support
genuinely what the fuck did you need to macro half a year for
ainz grind 🥺 takedown grinds 🥺 getting any good traits 🥺
I mean, yeah. I would 100% rather play AV any day of the week over AA
i couldnt play the game even if i was put on gunpoint
Nothing's forcing you to automate farming in AV unless you want to play comp or something, in which case I'd just say you're clinically insane for anyways
its to fucking boring is the reason ppl automate
also if aa actually existed during the macro era it would totally be higher than av
so then
don't grind everything all at once
It's surprising how much less boring the game is when you do bits at a time
Thank god for banner pity
why do people call clearing stages boring
are you supposed to get excited over completing a stage
i swear ahk existed even before aa got published big dawg needa lock in
i thought the dopamine came from rolling on units or getting the units 😭
they find the game boring in general but they have been sunk cost fallacied so they just macro it 24/7
like bro aa was playable mfs used tiny task and shit but av they had to level it up to ahk
mfs in aa just used scripts
I think that just says bit more about how simplistic and boring aa was 
and dont act like macros are not super widespread now in every td on roblox now
nobody plays like this most mfs want to obtain units as soon as possible
That's just not true lmfao
it was fun because they played with their friends on aa
scripts? like expolits? prob
yes
do u guys really get dopamine from manually clearing stages bro the fun part is gambling and getting vanguards
but number wasnt as high as ppl mecroing in av
well yea its scripts
scary
I played with my friends on release and then we all quit because it was boring and I only ever managed to get one back in later to mindlessly grind halloween for alucard
its not like aa was magically more interesting or less grindy
event secrets were impossible to pull, banner secret was impossible to pull, and the grind to evo units were long as hell
AA was just not an enjoyable game
I had more fun being alt-tabbed watching hellsing abridged during the halloween grind than any time I played that game
with the numbers im seeing here it gotta be double digit max
yeah we aint saying aa was enjoyable but compared to av? we dont got an argument
you're right, because av still clears 
I'm not saying it isn't boring
Because it definitely is
But it's still leagues better than AA ever felt
yeah av isnt boring straight up fucking unplayable glad u realized that
"Wow, me see number relating to game, this must mean everyone in here is involved in game too, surely there aren't people who are inactive or just don't actually use this program or use it on other games instead"

I don't get how you think av is "unplayable"
Yeah tbh no downside
i mean u were an av tester so of course they is some bias play it for 4 month u see
That has no bearing on it
bro im not even in his bracket and someone beat his score
if anything, being a tester made playing the game even more unbearable
i mean the first one with 80k members is purely av and being realistc prob about half use it
having ear;y access to a game that updates once a month is unbareable ppl have lost the plot
Man what's the downside of having autoupgrade
If the majority of players automated farming, the average playtime of the game would be a lot higher than 20-30 minutes
Even mobile player can taste what 🥭 demon use🔥
idk ask fucking blaze imperium
It's not about early access. You get to test the units in depth for like a week or so, playing the main game after they release just has absolutely no charm, no enjoyment, you're already pretty bored of the units
LOL it's not like all tower def games can't be 🥭 also if they really want to stop 🥭 why wouldn't they make it more rewarding but harder so u wouldn't 🥭 or keep repeating the stage, this statement is bs💀
Average playtime cannot be calculated if players never leave the game. otherwise it be looking like this
ok thats kinda fair cuz yall alr know what the upd is about but for someone like me not the case
Yes, but my point was that being a tester would not have me biased towards the game being playable, it made it less enjoyable to play
🙏🏿
i mean this devs greed make mr krabs look like a baby bro they aint trynna kill the game
Literally no downside on autoupgrade
Personally I just think autoupgrade is a boring feature
I'd never remember it's there and use it 
it is but would u keep upgrading units 1 by 1 if u keep repeating a stage?
ur just a dumbass
makes sense but i find it hard to believe av is more playable than aa
ur probably held on gunpoint to play manually
anyone who has played this game knows how much auto upgrade is needed
this game are meant to be 🥭 like there's no stage where the reward is high and difficulty is hard to not 🥭
yeah
No I just don't like the idea of automating
for example if they keep making ex stage or other stage harder but more rewarding it may potentially stop 🥭
I like using my PC to do shit
But they can't be bother to do hard stage and more reward because they want u to keep playing using 🥭 🙏😭
well neither do i which is why i quit this fucking game
they should add this atleast for farms i feel
Good for you
auto upgrade is auto upgrade
yea
Nobody was forcing you to automate the game 
yea
I play it manually because it's more enjoyable and because I know how to actually pace myself so I don't burn out on the grind
nah the game was forcing us to automate how u gonna make us do the same stage 50 times 20 minutes
Especially if u keep repeating the stages
🙏😭
that's why 🥭 exist man
You mean ant island?
yes

dawg its gonna get to the point where u want the unit but dont wanna do the fucking stage again
Soluition? mecro
It's basically a 1 time grind
which is 90% of allunit obtainment btw
Doing the stage isn't that bad if you don't do marathon sessions of grinding it
Players are just too eager to burn themselves out on a game by grinding it too much, which leads to both the devs wanting to artificially extend the grind, and the players wanting to automate the process as a response
Solution? how about dont tell players to do the same exact stage many amount of times
if u keep on doing the same shit u finna get bored easil
but atp the playerbases attention span is fried to the point the have to mecro it
devs are more to blame
a simple problem that just needed a simple solution 😮💨 what are we doing av devs
lowkey dont feel like reading the whole convo to understand context
doesnt really make much sense as an argument
like how did no one on the dev team think why dont we make them do act 1 15 times etc then act 2 x amount of times
it provides some sort of variety
So then what's the solution?
It's not just "dont tell players to do the exact same stage", that doesn't solve the issue
cid stage both easy and the ex one was them fucking with us
the most blatant stage with 100% justification to automate
right here sure some ppl are gonna still resort to mecroing but if u give variety for grind
ppl find that shit more enjoyable
So instead of one stage a bunch of times, you have people do every stage a bunch of times, just a smaller bunch
how didnt u get bored of aa then cuz they was not much variety for the grind
I’m sorry but that just sounds even worse to do 
besides the raids most stages in the game didnt require u to do much clears (maybe be others but idk)
As a manual player, I would still much rather just grind the one simple stage than have to do every other stage multiple times, because they’re still going to make one stage the “”best”” for grinding out the event
does add some sort of variety and ppl are prob not gonne get bored from doing the same stage 9999 times
Variety, yes. But even more annoying
i mean sure its annoying but its also not boring at the same time compared to doing one stage
It’s not good variety, nor does it solve the base issue of events like this just being too excessively grindy
Doing the one stage approach just appeases more players, both manual and not
It’s a lot simpler for people who just want a chill grind
well personally thats my solution and ofc their ppl who are not gonna like it but this works for me
^ devs shuld adjust to how players play anyways
literally everybody does this shit gang you can't just ask them to adjust lol
ait fair
i mean i think its better then the one stage bullshit works in theory but in practice? idk
most are just limited by their mobile devices
You really overestimate with "everyone does it"
most av players are pc if we being realistic
i mean the only way i can really tell is by seeing how many ppl got access to it
Access =/= use
Access ≠ use
thank you
i mean sure but 80k ppl in a server just for mecroing
we can assume atleast about 30%

i didn't feel like searching up the symbol 
its prob more but we cant tell cuz they prob ppl not in the server still got access to it
i mean yeah just trynna be somewhat realistic here about 30% or 24k are prob using them
and thats a pretty fucking huge number tbh
easier to assume most people are necromaxxing when most of the people i talk to are either using it or can't use it because theyre on mobile
in a game where 95% of players automate
YOU are the 5%
mobile users caught a break during summer event but I dont think they got anything currently
AA was not any better man 😭
40 minute mode gives 1 ten pull + its hard as shit too and you need a team of people. but everyone is leeching because of the listed issues
I had to farm ent district like 200 times just to evo tengen 😭
don't forget the awful grind for takedowns and stats
everything about aa felt unrewarding for no real reason
2 hours of inf just for all B stats 💔
95% is so unbelievably over the mark it's not even fun 
Using 🥭 stats to say AV is somehow more boring is super disingenuous imo. AV is more often 🥭‘Ed sure, but that’s because it’s just much easier to 🥭 AV than it was AA, otherwise they’d almost be paralleling.
If it wasn’t a pain to 🥭 AA, I know for an absolute fact most players would be using it to farm the game because of how boring progression was, putting in 18 hours to evo one unit 😭✌️
theres a whole market for this shit
its grown heavily. ever since dandadan update its been growing fast. theres a lot of free versions and tutorials
no shit there's a market
but people severely overestimate how many people actively do it to that extent
this is true
nobody was playing AA manually cuz it was more fun it was cuz the game was more difficult to afk
AA is just people looking at it with rose tinted glasses they don't realize that the standards have been increased since then
so big its banned
gh
Sure only thing that was dogshit was the events and some grinds like vegito but that's it
I mean what I'm i missing
yup 100%
not even the fucking developers who created the game want to play it
blood lad mentioned
ofc it had to be fucking blaze imperium
when we get the next q&a please someone go up and ask for auto upgrade
they already answered that question in the 8.5 stage tho
pretty sure they wont add it cuz it supports an unhealthy game play or sum valk said it
even though hes the guy who designed fucking escanor
useless ass question bro
oo la la
this is how we got shiny transfer, someone specifically asked for it, kazi went on and was like "ok fine"
trust it works 🥹
they were 100% gonna do it anyways
maybe ask it on something important like hard content 
i hope u realize we dont need to ask one or the other, we can ask both
only one question
the stage goes on for 1 hour their will defo be multiple people asking for both
all i care about is a vf for my goat akaza
🙏
Devs are blind to everything
This means nothing bro what
50 hour vanguard quest they added with smiles on their faces
CID stage added for fun not to mention pre nerfed ex stages
only aot was nerfed
fuck no
you do know adding auto upgrade would make 🥭 ing easier?
makes tiny task way easier to use
its already super easy
devs have already said they don't make stuff to go against tinytasking they js make features
auto upg has value for the non afking player
since it would make manual grinding less tedious
if you dont afk it cant be that hard opening unit manager
i agree with only adding it to farms and maybe supports
but other units, just no man
alr said its tedious not difficult
tbf i would mainly want it for farms so i agree on that
i think for units i don't mind it being added but the thing is i wouldn't use it anyways lol it would be very jank
doesn’t make a difference for afk, people still do it whether auto upgrade is here or not.
It’s already easy it’s not a good excuse
and this is because??
this is some stupid shit mecroing could not be more easier then it is rn how is auto upgrade gonna affect much
have yall notice that ram prices have skyrocketed
Why?
Cuz ai companies have been buying them increasing their price
so this is aura?
ITS ME! AURA!
6️⃣ 7️⃣ ?
Like skibidi toilet?
Woopi do, somone gets over 100 people give him a star, and now he acts like its not a hot take, meanwhile thers 1M+ in the discord. And 90k avg currently in game, that have a 50% to agree with you. Still a hot take man, ur not in kindergarten, golden stars are useless
I dont think you understand what he was saying my guy, ur take is that 🥭 alr happens, so who cares, but he clearly said it will make it easier, which is a affect that could happen.
Uhh u didnt get the question, he said easier
I did get it
And I said it's already super easy it doesn't matter if it becomes easier
Uh it does?
Why
Me spam clicking upgrade on a unit Vs me clicking auto upgrade on a unit has very little difference
Example, if getting a 90% on a test was easy already, and the school made tests Easier, and people get 95%, inst that an improvement
Does it matter is what I asked
Relating this to av, which m wording is a bad thing, if its already a bad situation, why would u want to make it worse
It just doesnt make sense at all, to make some easier, that's already easy?
Its beneficial to everyday gameplay
No not really. The people who dont have marcos, or cant, due to x reasons, its unfair
Thought that was common sense, and btw the suggestion wasn't about if m wording is bad, or good, it was why make it easier
The reason why I'm saying the afk stuff is because it's kinda dumb to not implement something that would increase the quality of life and doing repetitive tasks like worldines more bearable to do.
Adding this would help the people who can't do that
Not adding this just because the people who can afk is also unfair to those who can't because they're left out of a feature they would have otherwise
Wouldnt everyone have dio? Or units that take alot of grind?
No lol
The game's designed to make that not a possibility
Yes it will? Everyone will m word materials, every day, efficiently sky rocketing resources
This is already the case
A re roll will be worth less, gems would be practically useless ?
Also resources aren't in the economy
Then why is ppl begging for rr in trafes
Dog tell me an efficient way of getting rerolls from afk
Over paying good units for a stack of rerolls
There isn't one
Challenges?? Boss rush overnight
Because the Devs aren't troglodytes they know people would afk
Everything that has a shop?
Boss rush overnight is 40 a week so it's limited and challenges are like 24-48 a day and they aren't achievable with conventional afk programs
Yea they did, but may I inform you about the time, devs were complaining about m wording
Did you know, that you tubers were getting banned from the servers, because they showcased m wording
Dont u realize the change in av?
Only infinite source of gems are from afking gems which is also less efficient than manual play and is insanely inconsistent because of shiny rates
Tell me how its less effective
Doing worldlines and rifts give more gems than doing infinite repeatedly
To m word gems than doing manual, when if u m word act 9 of anni, you'll get 100k in one night?
No????
And guess what there's marcos for world lines
Oop I meant m words..
Bro I'm done w you
There is, infro m word, and other paid to access m words are out there
WHY u backing away now, do u finally realize there's a m word for everything basically, so u want everyone to play the game on easy mode, sure buddy
Dog you don't know what Ur talking about
yeah, it doesn't matter? the devs themselves make stages for AFKing, which was shown with the summer event and this latest update, and the next seasonal event will follow suit. the thing about auto upgrade though it actually doesnt effect most AFK farms because it either doesnt work for the stage or its not as optimal. auto upgrade won't effect afk farms to the extent everyone makes it out to be, but it makes it easier for people who aren't using those programs. if they're going to be lenient for tinytask, you might as well add auto upgrade.
Check inf m words there is world line 🥭 am not saying this for nothin
Give me a second to read lol
You think the fucking anniv stage gives 100k gems a night have you touched the fucking stage
Odyssey does yeah
NO FUCKING IDIOT it gives 300k per night and yes I have
Why??? Cause I m word it EVERY NIGHT
No, the currency
You are fucking slow gng
The currency and give 100k gems in one night
This fuckin idiot thought I meant direct gems
I meant the currency that you make in one nigth gives you enough to buy out all the gems
Smartest AV player caught in the wild
Bro are u reading ????? Alr lemme put it in simple terms, 1 night of m word, =200k -300k cakes, all u need is 100k cake for 100k gems you understand
So when I said one night CAN give 100k gems point proven
Well ur fault for assuming I said twice
Same for the other kid, I Cleary said ONE NIGHT, purposely not 2 or 3, because u can only buy once
not in a night, 1 night
There's a difference from one night. And in a night
1 night means in only 1 night u can get 100k
And a night means?
A night means the same as one night, but the issue appears when yall assume that each night equals 100k
I did one night instead of a night for the fact u can only buy it once
Well I didn't think I made it sound like each night, I mean I literally said 1
There isn't an issue they mean the same shit
Yea but yall still thought each night, actually not yall. This guy @unique sonnet
Going toe to toe with my third grade English skills stg
Back to convo, if y really think, that manually grinding for gems is more effective, is wilding
The other guy
Then whatever I used, yall still thought multiple, what should I do??
We didn't??
The guy that said, you cant buy it more than one night
Well that's common sense mr obvious that's why I said 1 or a
Buy what
Look ill reply to it
Here
Oh I didnt say what, hes saying the 100k gems in the shop
No i said 200k ' 300k currency which is used for 100k gems
Well whoopie do, shoulda used common sense, and realize the only way to get 100k gems is from the shop
Yea then I put it in simple terms
Why are you considering a one time purchase as for proof of afks being more efficient LOL
Uh 100k in one night is huge
And you can get that by yourself gang it is literally 20 stage clears
It is not that difficult
Ik but not only u get rerolls bro
Also it is still a one time purchase nobody gives a fuck
Bro what are u saying at this point
Ur right who cares if its one time, but isnt it one time for manuals too
Why are y trying to say manually doing it is easier? Or easy
That's still an hour if straight grinding man, or I could go to sleep, or play soccer in that one hour time
I saved the hour you spent on av doing it manually, then just m wording, and going to sleep or being productive
It is? Name how it isnt
Well ur not listening
Its one time for everyone
Meaning let me ask u this. 1 hour of doing som productive, or 1 hour griding ur eyes away in av?
Look idk why am discussing this with you,
I hope u dont belive that manually is easier and makes more resources than 🥭
Thank u, this guy @full geyser said its not
I said efficiency dog
Isnt efficiency a ratio, of time and effectiveness
Yes manual grinding is more effective to get resources not for your effort
Obviously not doing anything is eaiser
More effective?
Look bro
If i ran a 🥭 for 5 days straight, how u beating it?
In Resource gain
While also maintaining a decent life
what you yappin about?