Crybaby Mode

[wispy lotus]

Nah but deadass what’s wrong with this

[floral bison]

the ccu drops whenever they do it

[novel thistle]

King meh bro blueberry and thatoneguy is in every suggestion about making hard gamemodes clowning on it there is no point arguing with them

[fringe lynx]

Forces people into the hard mode because why would you farm the normal one when the other is miles better?

[dapper hare]

because each and every one of those suggestions are stupid and are always declined for good reason

[wispy lotus]

The content is optionally harder and if you choose to do it harder you get increased rewards. You don’t have to do it harder, it stays optional. It’s basically like nightmare mode on boss rush but harder and more rewards

[blissful plover]

imagine this right they make a mode with a unit and it’s 1%
now people complain it’s too low raise the drops, SO THEY ADD OPTIONS HARD MODES WITH INCREASED CHANCES

[dapper hare]

most of the time, they're also just a laughing stock.

[blissful plover]

yea people like them see hard mode and start crying, which is why i made this suggestion lmao

[wispy lotus]

If your argument against this is that people will complain then there’s no point in adding anything to this game because there will always be something to fucking complain about

[floral bison]

hard mode on boss rush is good because its not 3x rewards if it was much smaller like 1.5x it might be recieved better

[fringe lynx]

For what we know, most of these get sent into the tester server so they can have a laugh at them 😭

[blissful plover]

that’s too low

[wispy lotus]

That’s not a valid argument

[blissful plover]

reduce hard mode drops so it seems fair ?
hell no

[dapper hare]

exactly 😂

[wispy lotus]

Exactly 😭

[floral bison]

its because the majority hate it, yes there will always be complainers but every time the devs added hard content that way the game died

[blissful plover]

gang it’s a an option you keep saying forced this or that

[wispy lotus]

Because thje content wasn’t optional, this time it is

[blissful plover]

imagine there was no harder stage at all then what, the harder stages are there to Speed up time, it’s all on what you want

[fringe lynx]

Take the AOT map, would you rather do 150 stages or 30 stages? Is it that optional really?

[blissful plover]

it’s up to you

[wispy lotus]

Ex stage was required for baiken, aot stages were required for the units, if you simply made an optional hard mode with increase drop rates and better loot nobody would complain because they’d still have the original easy mode to grind

[fringe lynx]

Thats literally what the suggestion is implying

[wispy lotus]

There is no downside to this shit at all

[blissful plover]

yea that was a dev issue they didn’t know what they were doing

[blissful plover]

literally bro

[wispy lotus]

Deadass just comes down to would you rather have to use your brain and do it in an hour or not use your brain and do it in two

That’s this whole suggestion

[blissful plover]

their argument is
“oh people playijg normal mode will feel “forced” to play hard”
it’s a OPTION

[floral bison]

ok listen to me very carefully pls i dont want to repeat myself. they did exactly what u said they should do in the aot update and people still hated it

[blissful plover]

YES BRO TY, people who work hard should get rewarded for their effort correct?

[fringe lynx]

No point arguing, they genuinely won’t see any point aside from theirs

[dapper hare]

why we cant do hard modes:

they just aren't good at designing them. not power scaling wise or mechanics wise.
most people are more inclined to do the hard mode because it saves them time, a lot of time in most updates
the developers have come into these suggestions before and said "no" directly, because it almost killed their game. they aren't reconsidering it any time soon.
making stages balanced for EVERYONE is better for the game, objectively. because everyone is at different points of the game with a wide variety of units.

[floral bison]

it doesnt feel like an option when ur losing a whole bunch of your time

[wispy lotus]

They didn’t tho. There’s no optional hard content with the aot update it’s literally all the same shit. And if you have a single monarch is unbelievably easy

[blissful plover]

that’s WHY THE HARDER OPTIONS ARE THERE TO SPEED IT UP

[trim pond]

i agree that rn game is piss easy but i also agree I shouldn't complaining about difficulty when i have the strongest units with the rarest trait

[blissful plover]

OML these people bro i can’t

[dapper hare]

@blissful plover @wispy lotus read

[trim pond]

it's really hard to balance

[wispy lotus]

Main problem with aot, as far as I’m concerned since I didn’t play during it, was drop rates being abysmal and needing 3 units to get 1 or something

[fringe lynx]

You are literally the idiot here? 😭😂

[blissful plover]

it was also that upd had 0 power creep and where low-key bad

[floral bison]

there was an ex stage bud

[fringe lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-dumb-founded-drool-gif-3532737620043612601

[dapper hare]

drop rates being abysmal, the units being dog shit, and the stages were way too hard.

[blissful plover]

the stages were not hard

[wispy lotus]

Ngl gang the stages were not hard

[dapper hare]

if you had monarch kaguya, yeah.

[floral bison]

so the time of the people that cant / dont want to play hard stages is less important

[dapper hare]

you said yourself you didnt play during it, your opinion here isn't valid

[blissful plover]

gang i didn’t have any monarchs at the time lmao

[wispy lotus]

Literally used my same monarch team which was sukuna/saber aizen and vsjw and I cleared it easily

[dapper hare]

thats why you didnt struggle.

[floral bison]

yea cuz those units are insanly broken we didnt have those back then

[fringe lynx]

“Monarch team” key word

[wispy lotus]

Gng sukuna BEFORE the familiar

[blissful plover]

he had units?? that he grinded for?

[dapper hare]

doesnt matter.

[wispy lotus]

Hollon are we bitching that I had a decent team now

[blissful plover]

i didn’t use monarchs and it was still a breeze

[dapper hare]

oh my god youre slow 😭😭😭 stop

[blissful plover]

see bro these people, i can’t gang this is what i mean

[wispy lotus]

There’s no way yall are saying it was easy because I had a monarch team when all I mostly did was place 1 saber down and wait 5 minutes

[floral bison]

he had 4 monarchs most people didnt

[dapper hare]

im not "bitching" im telling you why you didnt have any problems. you had a monarch team

[floral bison]

thats just not true

[blissful plover]

i cleared it easy with 0 MONARCHS

[fringe lynx]

It was pretty easy to solo without monarchs, the only hard part is praying for the crystal to be around your team, which is something you CANT control

[wispy lotus]

Anyone with a single monarch could have easily cleared aot

[blissful plover]

i rmb using vsjw esdeath and some other unit

[floral bison]

yea but it was annoying and tedius people play games to have fun not everyone wants to sweat

[blissful plover]

that’s why there’s a easy mode just for them

[wispy lotus]

This is more of a valid argument for saying it’s hard, which is rng based and bad, compared to saying “omg you had a team that wasn’t ass imagine how hard it would’ve been”

[dapper hare]

mind giving any details?
were you playing co-op?
were you using units that were literally immune to the bullshit mechanics in the stage? like kaguya and vsjw?

[blissful plover]

don’t start the bs it’s not fair bla bla

[wispy lotus]

Dawg you coulda used non monarch Vergil and Julias and still cleared the aot stages

[dapper hare]

thats the thing. NOBODY HAD MONARCHS AT THAT TIME

[blissful plover]

solo, only vangaurd i had was vsjw

[wispy lotus]

WHO IS NOBODY AOT WAS LIKE UPDATE 7

EVERYONE HAD MONARCHS

[floral bison]

so if they want to have fun playing the game they just gotta waste their time and not have fun?

[floral bison]

no they were way harder to get back then

[dapper hare]

the pity was 2500 for monarch and we were getting crumbs for rerolls 😂😂😂 especially since a lot of the players werent very active

[wispy lotus]

They legit weren’t bro I been playing since day 1

[blissful plover]

they can still have fun playing the normal stage, please understand harder stage is to SAVE TIME, imagine there was no Ex stage at all how would you feel

[wispy lotus]

It’s the same bs they just decreased the pity you just had to get lucky

[floral bison]

yea not everyone did tho

[blissful plover]

everyone imagine no ex stage

[fringe lynx]

They fucking were 😭

[dapper hare]

"everyone has monarchs"
"you just had to get lucky"

youre a moron

[fringe lynx]

My only monarch until 7.5 was igris

[floral bison]

playing the same stage 150 times is not fun, if there was no ex stage i would still think it isnt fun

[blissful plover]

that’s were current av is headed mindless boring slop

[fringe lynx]

All because I didn’t mega farm the game every week for a month straight to hit pity

[dapper hare]

i got 2 monarchs by the AOT update. 1 was fucking TAKARODA and the second was VSJW 😂

[blissful plover]

they made ex stages to SAVE TIME for players WHO WANT TO

[floral bison]

yea what does that have to do with anything were talking about?

[trim pond]

they were ur ahh lying😭
trait challenges weren't even consistent

[dapper hare]

id rather it be "mindless boring slop" then going back to the GG ex and AOT ex days

[floral bison]

so what if they wanted to save time but didnt want to play the hard stages

[blissful plover]

did they execute them right, no , but av can learn from their way

[dapper hare]

and they did, which is why theyre not doing that shit anymore

[trim pond]

tbf aot wasn't too bad gg definitely was

[blissful plover]

you can’t be a begger and a chooser

[floral bison]

yea lets just tell 50% of the community they cant have fun

[fringe lynx]

AOT was just boring and an RNG mess without Mon Cid or Kaguya

Literally zero skill needed like these morons claim

[trim pond]

ehh i did with gogeta and chu chulainn

[blissful plover]

so is it fun to play mindless slop?

[trim pond]

pretty easy only thing annoying was crystal

[blissful plover]

the harder stages i imagine wouldn’t be impossible, you could mac and cheese it tbh

[floral bison]

no? its not like those are the only options

[fringe lynx]

Yeah, that’s the only thing that made it tedious and RNG

Aside from that it was a walk in the park

[trim pond]

100%

then we got berserk ex stage👀

[dapper hare]

the berserk and broly update were my favorite updates in this game

because they were actually very fucking good and wasnt RNG slop

[blissful plover]

it’s like your hanging your self, if there’s no ex/ harder stage then it’s oh well i guess i’ll grind mindless slop, but if there’s a harder option to save time then it’s what if i don’t wanna put in 1% more effort for more rewards, your digging your own grave bro it’s an option 😭

[trim pond]

for the units obtainment?bc berserk update had genuinely 0 content

[blissful plover]

LITERALLY

[dapper hare]

"0 content" ok 😂😂😂

[floral bison]

wow ur like a broken record just repeating that without actually listening to what people are saying😭

[blissful plover]

guts and griffin WERE EASIER TO GET THEN GOKU

[floral bison]

yea it was pretty bare bones content wise

[dapper hare]

thats why its peak

[trim pond]

u could've got all units in 2~ hours bro

[blissful plover]

THATS LITERALLY WHAT YOU SAID

[blissful plover]

this is why av is constantly dies after 3 days of the upd it’s completed too fast

we need non mac and cheese stages

[dapper hare]

you need more games to play if you rely solely on an ATD

[novel thistle]

[fringe lynx]

Seriously, have you read anything over the past 5 minutes? All you do is repeat the same thing ignoring completely what they tell you 😭

[dapper hare]

THATS WHY THE BERSERK AND BROLY UPDATE IS GOOD???

[trim pond]

idk why people cry about difficulty tho
i lowkey had fun playing with randoms when i couldn't solo raids on release

[blissful plover]

gang bringing up something totally related

[dapper hare]

this is frying me

[blissful plover]

ikr lol, like danm this stage isn’t slop this time wow

[floral bison]

no those arent the only two options they could also just make easy content fun and worth playing

[trim pond]

rengoku grind was peak

[blissful plover]

go play als bro that’s a perfect slop game for you

[fringe lynx]

It’s just that relying on other people because of the scaling isn’t difficulty

[dapper hare]

AV > ALS

[blissful plover]

if you new to the game you might need help sometimes

there’s nothijt wrong with needing help

[fringe lynx]

I like to play stages without needing someone else to be able to clear a basic stage I’m expected to do well over 10 times

Im all for it for a higher hp scaling just don’t make it absurd for people to need multiple monarchs

[blissful plover]

which is why i made this suggestion

[dapper hare]

no, you literally want stages built for monarchs, thats the issue

[blissful plover]

please read

Make normal modes with a hard mode
hard mode having
3x unit drop chances
3x rewards
Normal mode 1x
This hard mode would come in 2 versions
Traitless and Traits Enabled to appeal to both parties

i want 2 hard mode variants TRAITS AND TRAITLESS

[dapper hare]

you were COMPLAINING THAT STAGES ARENT BUILT FOR MONARCH VANGUARDS

[blissful plover]

i NEVER SAID THAT

[dapper hare]

YES YOU DID

[blissful plover]

you probably assumed that lmao

[blissful plover]

i said the UNITS are busted, not anything about monarchs

[trim pond]

yeah i do agree with u

[fringe lynx]

Yeah, if you are new. If I am a day one player with meta monarchs and I need help, then there is something clearly wrong (just to clarify, this isn’t the case. I can solo anything just in case some idiot decides to burp “skill issue”)

[blissful plover]

you don’t even need monarchs,

[blissful plover]

i’m saying all these vangaurd units are op and too strong for this slop ah stages

[trim pond]

traitless dio can lowkey clear 99% of game easily

[dapper hare]

my goat

i actually have jojo eyes of heaven

[trim pond]

busted ass unit

[dapper hare]

most people just played AA or YBA

[blissful plover]

LITERALLY

these units are just too busted, and stages are too easy

[zenith oracle]

Fr strategizing your team / with others is way better and way more fun than placing farms and one unit down
When cid raid was added imo it was the most unique and fun game mode they added in a bit cause it required you to stay attentive of the wipe mechanic and when to upgrade your units bc of the dps checks

[trim pond]

100% agreed except cid raids

randoms were like apes😭

[blissful plover]

lol it was soloable at least

[floral bison]

thats more so a issue of powercreep the stages are fine the devs are just constantly releasing insanely strong units

[fringe lynx]

It was soooo bad doing it with randoms. The three times I tried to do hard mode, I got some Brazilian guy who didn’t know English pressing the towers in the wrong order fucking it up. I had to farm Aizen to do it solo 😭

[blissful plover]

so they have to increase the stage difficulty i’m accordance

[floral bison]

yea but it has to happen over time so people dont get mad, its more important that they stop making insane units so the problem doesnt get even worse

[trim pond]

😭😭

[blissful plover]

nah they just gotta even it out rn the units are deadass too strong

they just have to even the field and go from there

[floral bison]

doesnt change anything if they release another insane unit next update

[fringe lynx]

Next update is a banner vanguard too, the cycle continues 😭

[blissful plover]

it does then they increase stage difficultly/ scaling in accordance

[floral bison]

if they evend it right now anyone without those units is just cooked

[blissful plover]

that’s the whole point bro

[floral bison]

look at als and tell me how thats going

[blissful plover]

welcome to gacha games, you need meta units to keep up with the NEW CONTENT

[floral bison]

no gacha games are better then this they power creep way slower

[blissful plover]

als and av are legit gacha games

[blissful plover]

have you played dbl?

[fringe lynx]

Not really, most gacha games don’t need meta units to keep up. Only the hoyo verse hell

[fringe lynx]

There is a reason why dbl is in the gutter now

[floral bison]

never said they werent, and i havent played dbl

[fringe lynx]

Literally bombarded down in playerbase because of the horrible powercreep

[blissful plover]

you summon for new units, to fight the new stronger enemies, rinse and repeat

[fringe lynx]

Look at WUWA, you can do TOA with standard banner units and even with a 4 star

Reason why it’s beloved by big part of the gacha community

[blissful plover]

yea but this upd made the power creep gap insane we went from units doing 60k dps on monarch to 300-400k dps in 1 update

[floral bison]

no the gacha games i have played power creep alot slower, you got units because u liked them and they were cool

[blissful plover]

av better slow down then

[floral bison]

yea

[dapper hare]

AV's powercreep is slow mostly because of update times

[floral bison]

definitely isn't they just released broly and he is already power crept

[blissful plover]

literally

[fringe lynx]

Him being powercrept is a debatable statement, his ability is pretty much timeless and dio whilst being a dps machine broly still remains an incredible unit with good dps and insane support

[floral bison]

i mean he is still the 2nd best unit in the game but they told us he was supposed to stay at the top for a while then they drop a secret thats even better the next update

[blissful plover]

ts gon be aot all over again, they get the units and realize their old units are way better so what’s the point of grinding

[fringe lynx]

Pretty much, the game needs a higher hp scaling but if they don’t want an outrage it needs to be gradual

[midnight carbon]

Going from 1 to 2 isnt that bad man

[midnight carbon]

Just make more shit like elemental confluence its that simple. Or make tournaments less cancer. Or just make ex stages atleast slightly more challenging whilst keeping act 3 also reasonably worth doing.

[viral light]

Holy bait

[floral bison]

I mean bad under normal circumstances but u gotta consider he was just released not even an update against and they told us he was supposed to remain the strongest for a while

[floral bison]

What about it is bait?

[midnight carbon]

He is absurdly strong, he still is present on most teams. Dio is too good, thats a seperate issue. But dio is the exception, not the norm

Dont think they ever said "hed remain the strongest", they had maintained this upd would bring a meta shift, thats why they were so generous with rrs

[floral bison]

Yea but the problem is it keeps happening they continue to drop insane units every update and it’s getting concerning

[viral light]

Going from 1 to 2 isn't power crept LOL. By that argument Kaguya and escanor are unusable trash because they are like 5 and 6

[floral bison]

They said they wanted him to have the same impact as vsjw

[midnight carbon]

Yhwach was top 1 even when vsjw came out man, broly did have that effect. Dio is simply the signature unit of the game.

[quaint island]

why are we lying

[floral bison]

Obviously not completely power crept it’s hyperbole I’m just saying it’s concerning how fast they releasing in stronger units

[quaint island]

they already said the reason is because it was anni

[floral bison]

Top 1 in 1 single team vsjw was better for 99% of the game

[floral bison]

Yea but they didn’t need to make him that op, a bit stronger then sukuna would have made more sense

[midnight carbon]

How good a unit is for story stages doesnt really matter, yhwach was better for all lb and tourney content besides inf.

[quaint island]

still theres no reason why you shouldnt be using broly especially on an unbound team

unless your using domain characters

[floral bison]

True but vsjw was more convenient to use and he wasn’t that much stronger then vsjw they were used with each other most of the time anyway

[floral bison]

That’s more to do so with there being no actually challenging content

[quaint island]

challenging content would be fine if there was any reward for doing so

[polar plank]

67!

[dapper hare]

if you upvote this im sorry for you

[wispy lotus]

Good suggestion

[dapper hare]

ass suggestion

[novel thistle]

Just go play als or ag or arx if u want an easy game

[dapper hare]

🤦‍♂️

[jade stump]

[blissful plover]

literally

av turning into another als 😭 it’s so slop

[arctic wraith]

It always has been slop only not slop one i don't see is awtd but that game dead

[novel thistle]

These guys claim to not have enough time but they can argue here 24/7

[midnight carbon]

Im ngl it has always been like this, its just that getting monarch is easier so now more people breeze through the content. Theres some exceptions here and there (which have usually been received poorly ngl) but most of the time content has always been easy.

[blissful plover]

b

[rancid basalt]

First day, EX stage drops

[alpine knoll]

we need EX nightmare mode

[alpine knoll]

you got 3 weeks at minimum to clear the update before they release a new one btw

not everything has to be done day 1, i personally took 2 weeks to do broly because i needed to finish other characters before

[novel thistle]

Thats your choice

[wispy lotus]

Bump this to the moon

I wanna use my full monarch team of meta units on something that isn’t infinite or worldliness for once

I’d even support bringing back paragon to make a harder game mode