make stuff harder, but do it RIGHT

[rocky tinsel]

Monarch vanguard*

[tawny hollow]

True!

[rocky tinsel]

Also make that same vanguard have been unobtainable for 5 months

[tawny hollow]

Genius

[wispy escarp]

If your unit isn’t a monarch vanguard, it would be deleted immediately

[tawny hollow]

If you don’t get monarch on your unit within a day it should see you as not worthy of wielding its power and it deletes itself

[latent zephyr]

Still a good source of rerolls for people who didnt have pcs to autochallenge

[wispy escarp]

Pity was 1000 rerolls higher and the difference it made was too good to ignore

It would take people over a month per monarch

[latent zephyr]

Regardless hard content would be for endgame players who have monarchs and there would be easier versions that gave less items since it would be easier to beat

[tawny hollow]

I think that instead of rerolls stages should drop reroll fragments and you need 10 to make a reroll and it’s only a 50% chance to succeed in crafting

[latent zephyr]

Most people aren't hitting pity

[rocky tinsel]

No? Locking gamemodes behind monarchs is stupid

[latent zephyr]

Reread what i said

[rocky tinsel]

Have the gamemodes be traitless and actually require strategy and specific units

[rocky tinsel]

I read it right. You're still wrong

[tawny hollow]

Remove all passives and buff monarch damage 400%

[latent zephyr]

Then what would be the point of the 0.1% trait 😭

[rocky tinsel]

To clear other gamemodes easier

If its locked behind monarchs it's not difficult, it just has horrible scaling

[wispy escarp]

Convenience as it always has been

[tawny hollow]

Make it so every new mode needs the new unit with monarch to beat

[latent zephyr]

Hard content for people with the units for it
Easier version for people with worse units
Both drop the same items but harder content would have higher chances since it would take more effort
Therefore everybody could obtain it

[wispy escarp]

Yeah, high hp scaling is the worst way to implement “difficulty”

[rocky tinsel]

With units for it, not traits

[latent zephyr]

What would be a better way

[tawny hollow]

Add flying enemies but add no air units or attacks

[rocky tinsel]

Oh I dunno, actual mechanics?

[wispy escarp]

Actual strategy that requires good team synergy and mechanics

[latent zephyr]

Oh so you want them to add sum like energy drain again where only like 3 units were un affected?

[tawny hollow]

Double the price of all bundles and reduce the reroll amount

[rocky tinsel]

Energy drain is a mechanic that forces you to get cleansers. A comment like that just shows you've never touched a competitive gamemode

[tawny hollow]

and make rerolls unobtainable without paying for them

[rocky tinsel]

Energy drain also got nerfed - units can still function, albeit unoptimally under the effects of it

[rocky tinsel]

AA type shit

[latent zephyr]

Tell me who cleansed that was obtainable in upd 5

[wispy escarp]

Energy drain is a mechanic that has more workarounds compared to flat hp scaling which just forces you to monarch your units

[tawny hollow]

Also I think there should be a 50% chance that your reroll just straight up doesn’t work and fails and then you lose your reroll

[wispy escarp]

Fubuki, Orihime, Sakura

[rocky tinsel]

We're going to update 9.0 on Monday, what's your point?

We have more cleansers available and the devs (hopefully) won't make the mistake of not supplying the playerbase with countermeasures to those features

[tawny hollow]

Sakura solos all anyway

[latent zephyr]

Fubuki wasn't obtainable in think? Not sure. Sakura cleanse was ass u had to replace her upgrade her again

[tawny hollow]

Lul cheap infinite cleanse

[wispy escarp]

Fubuki is from 3.0

[tawny hollow]

I think that whenever you get a good unit you have to pay money to unlock the unit

Mythic:25$
Secret:75$
Vanguard:250$

[teal agate]

so erm what was that proving on exp food LMAO

[latent zephyr]

Mechanics could work. But almost every mechanic they add ends up being annoying asf
And harder content would optional so if u dont like it dont do it

[wispy escarp]

CTE is affecting bro 😭

[tawny hollow]

If your unit has a meter and it hits 0 you burn their meter for 30 irl days

And you can’t use it for 30 days also and it resets every trait

[rocky tinsel]

Y'know I think this Slade guy should be a co-owner

[wispy escarp]

Here is the thing, yes. It’s optional to an extent buttt it makes so the other stages end up feeling annoying and pointless. Why would you farm the 150 AOT stages when you could do 30 EX’s? (Yes I know AOT EX is easy, just using it as an example). It makes the other grind feel pointless and leads to people finding the optional hard content the only way to go.

And just flat out making them scale to meta monarchs will just lock out new players, they would be forced to grind the lesser stage and in most cases, they will quit.

Punishing people for not grinding the 0.1 trait is stupid, you could make the argument that getting rerolls is quite easy but a lot of people just play to chill and don’t want to do the daily 25 stages chore and instead they opt for content they enjoy. People should be able to finish new content regardless and be on track with more advanced players.

Dunno what’s the need to make this game some hardcore CO OP shit

Just look at how it mapped out for ASTDX, people don’t like that

[latent zephyr]

If ur just playing to chill then u dont need every unit in the game

Just skip the unit if u dont wanna do the grind

[autumn dune]

That's the problem

[verbal grove]

What if it’s a character they really like and it’s locked behind a ex stage

[autumn dune]

You can be casual and still want to collect every unit of the update

Since at least getting/evolving every unit is basic grounds for "completing" an update

[latent zephyr]

Then ur not casual if u have every single unit

[autumn dune]

????

[verbal grove]

It’s not hard to get every unit in a month

[autumn dune]

god forbid I play a game

guess im not casual

[latent zephyr]

If u have 250/250 units

Your not casual

😭

[autumn dune]

I mean, I disagree

You can play a little bit of every update

play them to their basic terms of completion

[wispy escarp]

People play this games for the units, ATDs are popular BECAUSE they got fan favorite characters. If your solution is to tell players to screw off just because you want to have your “challenge” then it’s simply selfish

[autumn dune]

just for collecting's sake

and still be casual

If you grinded out a shit ton of rerolls for those units and familiars and whatever else, then yeah, you aren't casual

[rocky tinsel]

Nether
what happened

[autumn dune]

but bare minimum collecting is totally casual

[autumn dune]

i stopped testing

[rocky tinsel]

Unc retired 😭

[latent zephyr]

If u really care about a unit u would afk for a night and 2 and get them from the easier version of the stage

[autumn dune]

more like got fired but it is what it is

[rocky tinsel]

Well cool ig, what happened to the odyssey thing tho?

[wispy escarp]

Most of the casual players we are talking about don’t/can’t afk

[latent zephyr]

More people afk then dont

[rocky tinsel]

I won't push it further but I'm extremely curious

[latent zephyr]

Its a loud minority

[autumn dune]

I just wasn't active enough

it's not really deep

[wispy escarp]

And we shouldn’t push the agenda of having to AFK to get units

[autumn dune]

as for the odyssey thing, fuck if i know

[verbal grove]

Nah most of the people in discord probably afk but I doubt the majority of all players afk. And even if it is it’s probably closer then u think

[autumn dune]

I don't think there was any real intention to do much with it, too much effort for something players probably don't care about when they have enough on the plate

[wispy escarp]

Even here a big part of people are on mobile devices and don’t want to risk their accounts to AFK

[rocky tinsel]

😔 Aren't devs the ones who ask you to test stuff? How can you get demoted for something out of your control?

[rocky tinsel]

"Enough on their plate" being lazy vf quests

[vernal coral]

your fault

[rocky tinsel]

Oh well can't expect much from the dev team anyway

[rocky tinsel]

let it GOOO 😭🥀

[autumn dune]

Because it's not fully out of my control

[vernal coral]

everything related to vf are a mistake

[autumn dune]

if i'm not getting enough reports in when there is new stuff to test, or actually doing stuff with the main server reports

[rocky tinsel]

💔 welp

[misty lance]

that reminds me to originium ingots on Arknights

[misty lance]

ik it wasnt named like that I just forgor their name

rock farm

[bold ember]

if he’s lacking activity in term of reporting bugs, then why would they try to keep him?

[wanton geode]

why is he LYING?

[wanton geode]

ymir:

10 minute clear time yeeees

[bold ember]

no monarch ex clear #「🚀」general-2 message

[sleek zenith]

Ymir lmao

you can’t get Ymir without eren so using Ymir on the literal stage people do to get eren is redundant

[teal agate]

Aint u buff ichigo by selling ymir

[sleek zenith]

and he’s using eren

[wanton geode]

yeah that’s why i pointed out he had ymir

[bold ember]

Okay then, always complaining about everything.

[wanton geode]

if you didn’t have eren and no good monarchs, your best options were literally the shit AOT characters, which can not beat the stage

[sleek zenith]

buddy, the literal stage he is clearing is for the purpose of getting eren and Ymir,

so bringing Ymir and eren makes no sense

[wanton geode]

son 😭😭😭

[sleek zenith]

You cannot get Ymir or eren without clearing the stage without them in the first place

[wanton geode]

i cant see this

[sleek zenith]

you deserve <@&1370637268112506910> role

[wanton geode]

that’s a thing? yeah he needs that poop colored role

[bold ember]

I just showed you a video

[wanton geode]

i can’t see the video

it’s from an no access channel

[cobalt girder]

i dont want hard stages 😿

[bold ember]

zoom in,

[wanton geode]

oh my god

VALK IS ALSO USING YMIR LMFAOOO

VALK IS AN EMBARRASSING BALANCER

[sleek zenith]

He uses eren and Ymir characters you literally cannot get unless you’ve cleared the stage already

[wanton geode]

it was too small i couldn’t see the eren

[bold ember]

I don’t really see the problem you said you cannot clear the stage with aot units and this video debunked that

[wanton geode]

i’m talking about aot units besides eren and ymir

[sleek zenith]

That’s like saying you can’t clear spring portals with spring units then bringing monarch kaguya

there’s no longer a purpose to clear the content when you magically travel through time and get a unit locked behind the content without clearing it

You cannot get Ymir nor eren without clearing the ex stage without them, it is impossible, so it is redundant to clear the stage with them then claim the stage is easy

[wanton geode]

you need to use aot units to grind the stage for eren, because if you didn’t have monarch kaguya they were your best option

but not even they can beat the stage

[sleek zenith]

Mushy just wants dumbest av player role he’s baiting

[wanton geode]

he wants it REAL bad

[bold ember]

you can literally using spring units to solo the portals

[sleek zenith]

the inability to understand an analogy suggests you are an infant or English is your second language

I must block you for I do not wish to bully infantile children nor berate someone who doesn't fully understand the English language

[copper prawn]

[lost current]

dawg

[tepid charm]

yes since monarchs are free rn we need not boring game modes

[ebon panther]

rs

[analog flint]

bro why the fuck did they demote ur ass?

they av dev team kills my braincells as day the days go on 😮‍💨

they removing the actual fucking good testers fuck

and who put this crappy slow time in suggestions whoever u are fuck you

[bold ember]

?

[hazy gyro]

Not testing enough probably

[bold ember]

you got anger issues

[analog flint]

is this the iq of the average av player?

[vernal coral]

leaked the update and leaked the future 10 updates

[bold ember]

ur crashing out for a stranger you don't know, plus you don't even know the context BEHIND his reason,

[analog flint]

how tf? does a simple question let u to dictate i got "anger issues" this some wild shit

[bold ember]

so why even bother say anything and you don't have the full story?

[bright elk]

they weren’t finding as many bugs as they require for it iirc

[analog flint]

he wont be in the server then how tf he/she in the server though?

[rough coral]

Nether did not leak

[analog flint]

they did demote his ass didnt they?

[analog flint]

damn bro got fucked i guess

[bold ember]

because he's not doing what he was primarily designed to do, that's just how any employment works you get laid off if you're not fit enough for the job no more

[copper prawn]

P sure they stepped down willingly

[autumn dune]

Because I wasn't testing

Who said I was a good tester lmao

[analog flint]

in my books u are a good tester

prob the only mf who bothered communicated with the community dont even wanna test 🙁

[autumn dune]

I mean, yeah, I just kinda burnt out

[vernal coral]

the nether glaze should be studied

[autumn dune]

Stuff just didn't really line up well, I didn't like trying to sift through main server reports

More focused on a job hunt irl so that I can actually support my family a little bit more

[autumn dune]

fr i wanna understand it

[analog flint]

dawg now that ur gone who tf is gonna be communicating the devs horrid opinions on good suggestions 😮‍💨
as a mf been here for long besides that fool andrevious ur one of the only mfs who gave a shit abt the community with this devs we cooked 🥹

[plush atlas]

the aot ex stage was prob the best we got

[autumn dune]

you'll just have to live with it now ig...

[analog flint]

well never been more glad to say i dont play this certified sleep aid 🥱

[autumn dune]

LMAO

[wicked patrol]

i play both

[oblique canopy]

i mean he was coo

[humble heron]

They should just make the enemies have insane hp

[autumn dune]

That solves nothing

[teal agate]

It will solve everything fym it will make 99.98% unsable units ingame into 99.99% unusable units ingame

[haughty sail]

cuz escanors whole thing is to solo

💔

[haughty sail]

als route 😭

[humble heron]

It so that you have to play with other people to beat it

I’d rather have that then energy drain and depletion where your only gonna use units that are immune

[haughty sail]

fuck no

anything but playing with other ppl

[humble heron]

The dev did say they want more team stuff idk man

[autumn dune]

That’s how you kill the game

[light frigate]

co op in tower defense should always be optional

[kind quail]

To this day I could only think of astd and aa having a player base that would willingly team up with eachother to progress

[wanton geode]

we all know how bad that idea was 😭😭😭

[humble heron]

I’m just suggesting ideas 🤷‍♂️

Maybe they should make a mode where you gain less money so you have to bring in cheap supports to stall before you have enough money for dps units

[wanton geode]

griffith:

[wanton geode]

ones that did the game ZERO favors

[hazy gyro]

That just makes monarchs way stronger

[humble heron]

Griffin still take 6 waves

[humble heron]

Traitless mode

[wanton geode]

escanor as well lol

[wanton geode]

omg 😭

[humble heron]

Yea that’s hard to counter

Maybe the first couple waves shielded enemies

[autumn dune]

So the solution is to make a mode that just annoys as many players as possible and leads to a very singular and boring team meta

[misty lance]

If people think they can come with modes where having traits or not having them doesnt affect the Gameplay or rewards.
I came with something like that in my LC suggestion

[autumn dune]

What

My remark was completely sarcastic

[misty lance]

Texts dont know of sarcasm

[autumn dune]

Sometimes it’s fairly easy

No way I was serious in thinking that was an actual solution

[misty lance]

It would surprise you how many people would say that with a straight face

[quiet patrol]

I'd say Cid raid was the right level of hard, it needed brain to win(cuz of the number code) maybe gimmicks that needed people to actively do smth to win is the right track

[teal agate]

999th time cid raid has been mentioned as hard beside annoying actual players

[autumn dune]

saying cid raid needed a brain just demonstrates how low we've come in terms of functioning as humans

It does not take that much to read four numbers, that's not needing a brain, that's just having the basic ability to count and having functioning eyes

[quiet patrol]

It felt more engaging is what I'm trying to say

I liked that

Not being able to brute force a stage and actually following a gimmick does just feel better imo

[autumn dune]

I will agree that it was more engaging at least

the problem is that it was tied to a stage that was expected to be played a LOT

If it was just for the cid unit and no familiar, it wouldn't be as bad

But because birb exists and with no pity, the stage is meant to be played on repeat, and that forced engagement goes from a neat, funky little gimmick to a complete pain in the ass that forces you to keep checking in or else you lose the whole stage

It wouldn’t even be as bad if it was just a massive unit stun or debuff or something, that you can at least play around and ignore if you’re okay with just being less efficient as a result

[heavy widget]

wha nether why did u lose tester

[autumn dune]

I’ve only ever played that stage manually solely because I like gambling on birb’s because it’s fun, but I’d be lying if I said I actually enjoyed doing the stage for it

[autumn dune]

This is old news

[heavy widget]

do u still have the newspaper

[autumn dune]

I just got let go for inactivity that’s really all it is

[heavy widget]

I see

😔

whaat about dirwd

[autumn dune]

That was something else entirely

[quiet patrol]

I understand ur point of view, and am glad we came to an agreement

[wicked patrol]

isnt hard, just annoying

[ebon panther]

honestly act 8 was really fun it was just

theres lit 0 point in repeating act 8 once u beat it once

[autumn dune]

Good, I'd wanna die if act 8 was the best way to grind

[teal agate]

aint that bad it's just another ddd

[wicked patrol]

yeh i enjoyed it

[wicked patrol]

exept this one has this fun game mechanic where gliga beats up ur early defence, a funny 100 million hp boss (god help u if u dont have rupture) falcon, AND to top it off the first boss has an attack that stuns for 20 seconds

[tardy ruin]

I agree this upd was mid nothing new nothing fun just more Pokemons to collect, cant even use passives to the maxmimum potential because of how weak enemies are

[wispy escarp]

Way too long for no reason

[autumn dune]

Fun to clear one time. Maybe 5 times. not main farming tho

[analog flint]

i mean for avs standards 100%

this game is the least brain intensive game u can ever play

[hazy gyro]

They tried to make it brain intensive and ppl voted against it so

[frank abyss]

why was ex stages even an option for hard content. do they think that end game players are farming gg ex stage. the rewards are fucking awful and its so repetitive. its just the same thing every time. i stand for making things a little challenging for increased rates and stuff; aot stage and gg ex stage are better now but they were fucking awful on release cuz for aot u needed to use kaguya or have the entire aot fucking roster with very sweaty gameplay to clear. and gg ex stage was just straight up impossible to solo for a long time until griffith and sukuna came around.

I support these things for added difficulty make for temporary satisfaction during the update for completing challenging stages but by no means replace the desperate need for a better end game system to occupy end game players. pvp happene to be a fail cuz of technical issues though i dont think its a bad gamemode but just needs a bit of adjusting to make it more accommodating for newer players and possibly some multiplayer. odyssey was a fail just for how fucking obviously predatory it is for farming playtime and premium payout with very shit rewards and little variability with modifiers/ interesting enemy mechanics. (its basically just get delicate flower or other cards and keep farming till you fall asleep or get bored) limitless has better variability and is more interactive cuz it allows u to sacrifice cards/placements.

[silver steppe]

i very much was 😭 over 100+ clears on it

during its release aswell

[wicked patrol]

reading them 30 times for a single birb

very boringgg