make the game harder

[vocal fjord]

at least 48 people have brains

[torpid citrus]

+19

[vocal fjord]

same people prolly

[gleaming cypress]

Him and the guy with the subaru pfp annoyed the fuck out of me

[torpid citrus]

my beloved

[torpid citrus]

What Subaru pfp guy

[vocal fjord]

is actually deserved here

[torpid citrus]

Oh he

I remember now
At least he tried to give examples

[gleaming cypress]

I would respond to one of his messages but he will probably get back…

[torpid citrus]

You can disable pings and I remember again

[gleaming cypress]

Which were horrid, he wanted the stages to scale to people with multiple monarchs 😭

Idk why people want stuff to not be soloable

[torpid citrus]

doesn’t matter
at least he tried to give an example, unlike a specific person who has OP behind their name

[tender field]

i do not agree with what the op said in his post but i do think we need harder content, in 8.5 we got broly who is the best unit while the content they added got easier

[blissful grove]

i mean liek

[torpid citrus]

Devs said themselves that players want easier content

Easier content = more players

[vocal fjord]

theyre weird and lame

[blissful grove]

they did intentionally do powercreep but with powercreep why wouldnt u also scale the stages to match that

[regal hull]

the game overall can be easy but i dont see why they cant add stuff for endgame players

[tender field]

but they are increasing the strength of the units while decreasing the strength of the maps. choose 1 or the other, not both

[blissful grove]

genuinely tho

[torpid citrus]

it’s cuz
solo = bad
But solo impossible = good

[tender field]

the difficulty should increase alongside the strength of the units

just not as dramatically as the older update

[gleaming cypress]

People just want to chill

[torpid citrus]

that I’m gonna gonna complain with
they could make optional challenging content

[blissful grove]

ex stages but soloable -challenging

[torpid citrus]

but the people here want either impossible solo or several monarchs to solo

[vestal olive]

What

[gleaming cypress]

Most people don’t want to sweat, especially with this game having zero end game content whatsoever

[torpid citrus]

AOT ex stage is the perfect example

[vestal olive]

The enemies don’t get weaker, it’s just that the Broly raid uses the stock standard namek enemies

[regal hull]

no its not

[tender field]

8.5 dungeon was easier that content added in 6.0 while the units were 10x stronger

[torpid citrus]

It was doable in solo when it came out, just hard

[blissful grove]

broly raid was only hard if you let it drag out and increase frieza's hp

[torpid citrus]

they kinda do considering it’s a big map and slow enemies

[blissful grove]

in which case it scaled to the point you couldnt even beat it

[regal hull]

well yea but it was pretty much just have monarch kaguya or one of the aot units and i dont find that fun myself.

[gleaming cypress]

Because 6.0 was a mistake, it was content scaled for more than 1 player and even then it could be soloed if you had the right monarchs

[torpid citrus]

Better than gg ex stage, which kind of thing the OP wants

Keep in mind, they added hard content with GG and the game almost died

[regal hull]

oh definitely but i wouldn't call it the perfect example

[tender field]

8.5 dungeon was twice as easy as 4.5 dungeon even though it was 8 updates later and broly>vsjw

[torpid citrus]

It’s the best we have after maybe Igris boss rush release

actually, yea
Igris boss rush is a better example

[regal hull]

tbf that was also cuz the update was mid

[regal hull]

yea old difficulty was fun

[torpid citrus]

Challenging doesn’t have to be impossible

Take notes OP
use this to make a new suggestion ASAP before you get blacklisted

[gleaming cypress]

No, black list him

[proper lichen]

Oi Oi…

[torpid citrus]

He will either way probably
use the last few hours

[rigid anvil]

u think u can get me blacklisted for no reason

[torpid citrus]

you get blacklisted for making stupid suggestions

[gleaming cypress]

There is a reason: your suggestions are stupid

[torpid citrus]

which there’s a perfect example at the top of the screen

[regal hull]

first thing in the rules

[rigid anvil]

this aint a stupid auggestion if 10 other people did it and this post got 26 likes

[regal hull]

if 10 other people did it why did u need to make one

[gleaming cypress]

You really can’t use that nugget of yours, can you?

[torpid citrus]

low quality

[regal hull]

most other people atleast give some ideas too

[rigid anvil]

dont need 100 responses

[gleaming cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[torpid citrus]

No bro
You don’t understand

‘why monarch escanor solo wverything‘ is a perfect solution!

[rigid anvil]

that aitn my job

[regal hull]

ahh that clears everything up great idea

[regal hull]

quite litterally the purpose of suggestions

[rigid anvil]

sorry not everyone wants to be lvl 300 like u guys

[torpid citrus]

Literally is

[rigid anvil]

some people got lives work family etc

[torpid citrus]

he’s the same level as you.

And this has nothing to do with levels

[rigid anvil]

no ur not

[regal hull]

i am tho

[rigid anvil]

its different

[torpid citrus]

I’m not talking about me?
I’m talking about Bluberry

[gleaming cypress]

“He’s” idiot

[vocal fjord]

its very stupid

[torpid citrus]

Now explain how

[upbeat monolith]

i want more endgame, but we wont have it

[rigid anvil]

why

[regal hull]

elemental confluence was a step in the right dirrection

[torpid citrus]

See how he’s ignoring me now cuz he knows I’m right?

[gleaming cypress]

I don’t think this is ragebait no more, we might be dealing with a lesser life form

[rigid anvil]

cause in a week hes gonna have ur role

[upbeat monolith]

its a fact, easier game bring more players than harder game, devs saw this and all the money they can get with a easy sloppy gams

[torpid citrus]

He’s been in the server for like a few months

[regal hull]

nah i dont talk in gen

[upbeat monolith]

✅

[torpid citrus]

I’ve been here for a year

[rigid anvil]

bruh

[rigid anvil]

a year and u got 300k messeges

[torpid citrus]

25k*

[upbeat monolith]

why u think steal a brainrot and others are on top rn, also does als

[rigid anvil]

idc

[torpid citrus]

idc

[gleaming cypress]

Cared enough to mendtion it

[rigid anvil]

but i didnt

[torpid citrus]

but i didnt

Can we just make a hall of shame channel and pin this in there

[rigid anvil]

they need to have atleast one game mode like astd x with the 3 paths and 3 towers

[rigid anvil]

thid a good suggestion yall?

[upbeat monolith]

game so slop rn im shiny hunting escanor

[gleaming cypress]

And how is ASTDX doing?

[rigid anvil]

astd x didnt die cause of its diffculuty tho

[gleaming cypress]

It’s much better at least

[upbeat monolith]

summer astdx event was terrible, i quit at that time

[regal hull]

wasnt a big problem having to play everything with others?

[gleaming cypress]

It did, you can look at the server and the main complaint was that most of the stuff was impossible to solo

[rigid anvil]

yeah the event was garbage

[tender field]

but like genuinely tell me what is the point of rolling on any unit anymore, ive monarchs 6 upper meta units this upd and ive used only 2
there is no point rolling monarchs on any of the units other then for collection purposes since all the hard content is traitless excluding leaderboards

[rigid anvil]

why u acting like finding people in a 1 million people server is hard

[torpid citrus]

What will it fix tho?
several paths and several towers will not prevent escanor from soloing?
enemies leaving range already kills then
Too easy
downvote

[gleaming cypress]

Yes, you couldn’t solo anything if you didn’t have all stars

[upbeat monolith]

Imagine me, i got 28 monarchs...

[rigid anvil]

his range wont hit 3 paths of enemies bruh what u talking about

[vocal fjord]

a lot of content required all stars and co-op

[regal hull]

i never said it was but from my experience with ggex people on discord arent the brightest

[torpid citrus]

how do you know?
‘It’s their game’

[rigid anvil]

huh

[tender field]

i got 23 and i dont buy anything except bp 😭

[regal hull]

yhwach upscale

[torpid citrus]

Fuck you!!

[rigid anvil]

there was literally game modes where traits were turned off and u could still beat it

[torpid citrus]

I’m still with my 6

[tender field]

i have 23 monarchs and use 2 MAYBE 3 maximum

[upbeat monolith]

same goat, aswell i will prob stop buying those

[gleaming cypress]

Trying to get a team for that was awful. I had level 30s join with no good units

[torpid citrus]

this is just how it’ll always end up tho
2 farms, 1 support maybe, rest dps

[upbeat monolith]

this is the common release comp players reality

[tender field]

no i literally only use escanor and maybe broly

[upbeat monolith]

broly kaguya and escanor just obliterates the game

[torpid citrus]

I’ve been playing since release boy…
I’ve been though the dark times called DDD

[tender field]

kaguya lol

you do not even need her

[upbeat monolith]

You are not comp tho, i grinded 7m wisps and dont got diavolo

in playing the game since its release, every single day

[torpid citrus]

yo
twin
I was at like 6.8m

[tender field]

i got diavolo ✌️

[torpid citrus]

And I got shiny Diavolo 😂

you’re below me

[upbeat monolith]

i dont got none

[upbeat monolith]

getting or no diavolo doesnt define comp

[torpid citrus]

fair fair

[gleaming cypress]

I didn’t get any monarchs aside igris till 7.5 😭

My diavolo has marksman

[tender field]

igris monarch in 7.5?

[gleaming cypress]

Grinding rrs before events was hell

[tender field]

optimal trait btw

[gleaming cypress]

He was my only monarch till that update

[tender field]

@torpid citrus nah i dont get bundles

[torpid citrus]

FAH

I need the Ishtar skin…

[upbeat monolith]

no one got money to buy those

[gleaming cypress]

I don’t do lbs so like I don’t care about stuff like that

[tender field]

still his best trait

[upbeat monolith]

monarch kinda bums too

[tender field]

u dont use diavolo for dps regardless

[upbeat monolith]

you are not using diavolo at all outside lb run

[gleaming cypress]

I sometimes use him just because

[fallow zenith]

yeah game has no comp, everything is too easy

[upbeat monolith]

diavolo was meta in tourney like only 1 time

[upbeat monolith]

tourney, lb inf and worldline, u should try it

[gleaming cypress]

There is tourneys which are kind of challenging if you don’t copy and paste from YT

[fallow zenith]

can’t say that 💔

[upbeat monolith]

Tourney yts are monsters brk

[fallow zenith]

not even stage difficulty, you just copy some youtube video method that ONLY uses al and pray that the people in your bracket are special

[gleaming cypress]

You can use the “just search on YouTube” argument for any stage, hard or not

[upbeat monolith]

how do u know that placing X unit at 11:50 when the third enemy spawn affects the score so badly

[upbeat monolith]

tourneys will change next update

[gleaming cypress]

Thankfully

[torpid citrus]

All thanks to Eous

[upbeat monolith]

lb inf and worldline? hell nah

u should try it

[fallow zenith]

difficult stage ≠ impossible stage

[torpid citrus]

Challenging is the term

[fallow zenith]

again, not challenging

just grab 4 decent people and you make lb

[upbeat monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255547054105690222/1424692824531800135/Discord_7Qi3esZUmJ.gif

[upbeat monolith]

top 12?

[torpid citrus]

This is just straight up false?
have you ever tried to do inf or wl leaderboards?

[fallow zenith]

pretty sure this post is asking for difficult stages not competitive brackets

[gleaming cypress]

I love when people talk with ZERO knowledge on the topic

[tender field]

exactly why difficult content shouldnt be restricted to leaderboard

[upbeat monolith]

yeah u right tho, but you just said game has no comp

[fallow zenith]

i mean difficulty when i say that, not a wise choice of words mb

[tender field]

literally the only hard mode that isnt lb is elemental confluence and it has a traitless modifier that you are forced to pick for a high score

[fallow zenith]

the game is too easy so i feel nothing playing it,
whats the point of getting any new unit when a unit like monarch sukuna literally clears anything

[upbeat monolith]

elemental confluence was hard in like specific 2-3 elements

[fallow zenith]

lowkey doing spark was the most fun i’ve had, it actually felt like a challenge

this was before i got stark so it was kinda fun

[tender field]

i just used vergil yoruichi and got 2k

[compact forum]

been saying this

[gleaming cypress]

Bridget made it piss easy

[compact forum]

a real one needs harder content bruh, im lvl 219 been playing since day 1. I NEED harder content bro release me from this easy content hell

[fallow zenith]

i only used vergil, yoruichi, dave, and luce

[upbeat monolith]

Obito: release unit
Tengen: 0.5 unit
Sukuna: 1.1 unit

bringing those type of units back to upper meta is so bunyuns

here it comes Valentine also

[rigid anvil]

so hows everyone agreeing but theres more dislike then like

[fallow zenith]

i liked that they brought them back but there’s no point when there’s nothing difficult enough to NEED them

i’m like lvl 250 and it’s getting stale

[upbeat monolith]

bc its not happening, everyone in late/end game agrees, but wont happen

thats the point why i reacted with ❌

[fallow zenith]

there is more newgens than ogs

[upbeat monolith]

also i dont want game to be at 10k players forever

[gleaming cypress]

Harder content just isn’t the way to go, you will have your little “fun” for a while and then it’s going to get annoying to replay

[upbeat monolith]

i want it to break atd scene, like escanor event comeback

[tender field]

it wont lol, if they make the maps harder along with the units better then the game wont magically lose 90% of the playerbase

[gleaming cypress]

People were complaining they couldn’t do óbito’s quest 😭

[fallow zenith]

it doesn’t just have to be “harder content” like if i was looking for that i’d subject myself to torture by playing lb without aladdin

but just something more difficult, i like elemental confluence as it isn’t impossible but can sometimes be challenging

[upbeat monolith]

maybe buying aladins bp was a great idea

[fallow zenith]

all you have to do in an nowadays is place sukuna, max upgrade him, and do nothin else the rest of the stage

[upbeat monolith]

same for broly or any vanguard

[fallow zenith]

on god i wasn’t playing when he dropped, game was in its most boring state

i did not need a rerun of dandadan

[tender field]

btw ever since 7.0 the units have been having pretty substantial powercreep, while the maps have been getting easier and easier
imo 7.0 difficulty was good its just they didnt add units strong enough to balance it out

[upbeat monolith]

we can literally do newest stages with like frozen volcano with any mythic unit

[gleaming cypress]

EX would’ve been widely accepted if it wasn’t for the spawn of the crystal being full rng

[fallow zenith]

i like EX, I don’t know why it got so much hate

gave you a reason to play with other people

[upbeat monolith]

also i enjoyed the game when the powercreep wasnt that big

[fallow zenith]

they don’t know about prime jjk

[gleaming cypress]

That was the only complaint I had on that update, you could trivialize it with kaguya or cid but if you didn’t have Mon cid the stage was just an rng mess

[upbeat monolith]

bc you HAVE TO play with others + everyone needs a good unit with monarch (guilty gear ex) most people dont got that, most people arent even above level 50

[gleaming cypress]

Solo at least

[upbeat monolith]

how do you make a gamemode/map for people level 200+ and level 50- 😭

im at level 330 without bugs btw

[gleaming cypress]

When rerolls were also scarce as shit

[regal hull]

Have it give u units like the summer event

[oak kernel]

lets mention a few reasons:
1.Av didn't have a quick matchmaking and the current matchmaking is dogshit
2.You had to pray for good modifiers because difficult ones made it impossible to beat on release
3.Forced to play with others
4.Couldn't restart because the enemy spawns become random after beating it once

[upbeat monolith]

so it is just new player slop

[regal hull]

no?

[upbeat monolith]

i want to use my 28 monarchs somewhere bro

[oak kernel]

you can't just make a difficult that require a team when your game have a shitty matchmaking

[upbeat monolith]

pls pyseph i need this

[gleaming cypress]

You can use them

[regal hull]

yea thats what end game content it for which they need to add?

[gleaming cypress]

Nothing is stoping you, I still use my monarch igris every now and then

[upbeat monolith]

this

matchmaking maybe be one the big problems with av

i dont ever have used matchmaking, idk if it even works today

[gleaming cypress]

It doesn’t

[oak kernel]

it doesn't work

[upbeat monolith]

dang, AA matchmaking was better

[oak kernel]

instead of fixing something major they decide to fix stupid shit

[gleaming cypress]

Unironically it’s the best matchmaking system we have gotten in any ATD

[upbeat monolith]

they took like 7 .0 updates to fix lb runs

🫃

[oak kernel]

is the one that added it and somehow every game can't make a one as good like it

reason why astdx died
is a multiplayer game with a shitty matchmaking

[upbeat monolith]

astdx was just slop ngl

worst comeback than AA

[gleaming cypress]

That and being forced to do co-op for no reason

[oak kernel]

match found and it was only 1 guy

[gleaming cypress]

Level 10 with no evo units

[upbeat monolith]

AC on top

[eternal iris]

Ac has the god matchmaking

[upbeat monolith]

you can pretty much everything solo but it has a good matchmaking

[upbeat monolith]

Ac is AA comeback but done well

[junior rivet]

They won't do hard shit anymore

[upbeat monolith]

aot update trauma

[vague shuttle]

booo

i want hard shit!!! ‼️ ‼️

[junior rivet]

Aot boss rush is not even hard but you can't solo it with one unit and shit was boring asf

[vague shuttle]

true

[upbeat monolith]

Yhwach and cid

both can solo it

[junior rivet]

Does yhwach still needs units sacrifice for him to solo it?

[proper lichen]

Escanor alone can solo it (w titans help)

[upbeat monolith]

ye

[tropic escarp]

No way yhwach without monarch can solo aot boss rush

[gleaming cypress]

He ver much can, you will still need help of titans tho

[upbeat monolith]

???? boss rush are traitless

[upbeat monolith]

bro which game are yall playing

the fact that new players think yhwach is a bad unit bc its from 4.0 its still crazy for me

[modern berry]

https://tenor.com/view/akkubaba007-jerry-laugh-akku-fav-gif-gif-16150872697915744919

32/52 alr we got the result alr why are still here

[modern glacier]

bi,[

bump, the 52 Xs on this suggestion are idiots

[vestal olive]

I'm pretty sure half of them want harder content too

but this thread is just a shit suggestion

[meager raft]

Goated suggestion

[rigid anvil]

dont mean anything

half the dislikes are bots the other half are from my fans

[rigid anvil]

im saying

7 updates later the best unit in the game gonna do 4 million damage and the npcs gonna be 10k hp

[modern glacier]

the past few vfs, its always concluded to "very good yet only useful in lb or tourney"

because there isnt any hard shit for the avg player to apply these insane familiars in

[gleaming cypress]

Yeah, idk why

[vocal fjord]

im sorry, do you want the games new content to start requiring two monarch vanguards?

READ what the suggestion insinuates before calling me an idiot

[vocal fjord]

you just dont understand because youre not very smart 💔

[rigid anvil]

why u still typing in my server

[vocal fjord]

are you good?

[frail owl]

optional content

[vocal fjord]

"server" blawg youre not pyseph tf?? 😭

ill remind you that i can give critiscm to your shit suggestion, its an open thread

[frail owl]

make a famillar in the hard stage unit in the easier one

[vocal fjord]

?

[frail owl]

maybe even give stage boosts in the harder stage

and make an enemy on wave 4 or smth have a load of shields to prevent escanor soloing

[rigid anvil]

fr

@vocal fjord u havent given one piece of critciam

[frail owl]

dont make the main story hell

[rigid anvil]

i dont think thats critsicm

[vocal fjord]

u dont see the issue in content requiring 2 or more monarch vanguards to beat?

[frail owl]

elemental confluence was almost perfect, only issue was how shit some elements are

[rigid anvil]

when i did i say 2 monarch vangurds

[frail owl]

and the rewards were bad

[rigid anvil]

u think u can insert words into my mouth?

[vocal fjord]

you dont like that monarch escanor can solo everything, meaning, you want content that escanor cant solo.

[rigid anvil]

ye

[vocal fjord]

which, the only way for that to happen, is have that content require 2 or more monarch vanguards to beat

[rigid anvil]

huh

what are tou talking about

[frail owl]

make it traitless

or kings burden

[vocal fjord]

not an issue with escanor

[rigid anvil]

u got level 1 ragebait

star this and ill forgive u for ur garbage ragebait atempt

[vocal fjord]

no.

[frail owl]

escanor lowk ruined the game

auto upgrade + wave 0 place

[frail owl]

i mean u could add shields

[vocal fjord]

making it have shields doesnt make it difficult

[frail owl]

does for the ranga fire man

not for other stuff

almost like im trying to encourage not using him 🤯

[modern glacier]

its not just escanor

the level that new units are at is far stronger than new modes

[torpid citrus]

Is there anything else you can say?

[rigid anvil]

brush ur teeth maybe

[sly terrace]

I don't want av to die again so no

[peak depot]

The game is full of idiots so if they do that they will lose a ton of players

[tender field]

btw increasing the scaling of the stages is not gonna make the game magically lose 70% ccu

[gray tulip]

If it forces people to use more than 3 units it will

[tender field]

🤔

[peak depot]

Yes it will

Did u not see what happened with the ex stages

They should make nightmare mode story actually a nightmare

[vocal fjord]

[regal hull]

That’s mostly because the updates that had ex were just trash. It’s also because you pretty much forced to play the ex stages

[peak depot]

The guilty gear update itself was not bad

Pvp was just broken

[regal hull]

It was very buggy

[peak depot]

Nobody cares about guilty gear so Nobody wanted to grind it

If it has been any other anime it would have been fine

[regal hull]

Yea that’s part of the reason it was bad

[peak depot]

The only bug was the baiken one

Pvp was just a mess

[regal hull]

The devs go back and forth on stuff all the time what they say means absolutely nothing

[idle forum]

thats true

[peak depot]

Fair

Hard content isnt bad and it was very beatable if u had 2-3 people with brain cells and decent units

And it was soloable if u had no friends

There was literally guides on how to solo it if it was too much of a hassle to find people

Ywach released like 2 months before gg upd so u definitely had time to monarch him

Even with how hard it was to get rr

[regal hull]

That’s assuming u knew he was going to be needed for it and didn’t spend rerolls elsewhere

[peak depot]

Ik

[peak depot]

He was literally the best unit in the game 😭 why wouldn't u roll on him

[elfin maple]

INCREASE ROLE SUGGESTION PERM NOW

[regal hull]

Because vsjw was better for 90% of content and was cooler

[peak depot]

Ywach is better by far

[peak depot]

Cooler is an opinion and there is almost nothing that vsjw could beat that ywach couldn't

[regal hull]

Yea with a whole team built around him

[peak depot]

Energy drain came out like a month after ywach

[regal hull]

Vsjw was better for the average player

[peak depot]

Nah even if u used 1 or 2 slots for rare units he would still be better then vsjw

[elfin maple]

why is a rare and time consuming character to get with the best trait in the game able able to solo everything??😱😱😱

[peak depot]

He could actually

[peak depot]

Escanor is not rare gang

[regal hull]

Doesn’t matter how rare it is it shouldn’t be able to solo everything in the game let people have atleast some hard content

[elfin maple]

they tried hard content and 90% of the community didn't like it, i feel like that says it all

[regal hull]

What casual players don’t like endgame content no way!!!

[elfin maple]

they said they won't add hard endgame content anymore because the majority of players don't like it

[regal hull]

The problem with old endgame content was that its pretty much required when it should be optional

[elfin maple]

true

[regal hull]

Again that’s how it is for every game doesn’t mean they shouldn’t add it at all

It is very necessary especially in a game like av where updates are like a month apart

[vestal olive]

You know energy drain still had a cap, even back then, right? He wouldn't have 0 damage if you had his active online

Valk has also been wrong

Why wouldn't he have been able to solo buu?

You just bring a bleed legendary or something

You could still run yhwach

And

[crimson plaza]

people havent realized how op he actually is pre buff

he was pretty much equal if not stronger than sjw after the buff

[vocal fjord]

vsjw is better than yhwach sorry

[vestal olive]

Eh

He has more longevity solely because of the %hp summons, but still

Yhwach is generally cheaper and more applicable, much more straightforward

[modern glacier]

bup

[upbeat monolith]

apoc

i love u man, but have u saw some of the updates

i mean, yea aot and GG were bad in GENERAL not only in difficult

but av devs cant make many things at once

roblox devs today cant even do a full update

update is basically qol+ new stage + new units

updates back then got a lot more than only those
i can remember abt:

• competitive changes
• cosmetics/emotes/visuals
• rework/revamps in characters/mechanics
• events that you actually MISSED when they were over
• substantial changes to the game and gameplay each update

in av we are basically getting more units to roll on, no real content will be added, since if its a new story/event we will just complete it and wait for the next one

they cant do a full update, community isnt prepared to the wait time, but a GOOD update itself recovers the game in its own

[craggy snow]

Why so much fuckign X

[modern glacier]

cause av players are stupid

[craggy snow]

No

Make the game harder It isnt a bad suggestion

[modern glacier]

no i mean the people on this server are stupid for Xing it

because they want av to be a dumb afk sim with boring content instead of an actual fun game

[rigid anvil]

cause people got no braincel

[craggy snow]

No

I see the goat lord poop i doubt it
@gray tulip explain your self

[gray tulip]

Hard content like elemental confluence works, and I'm all for optional hard content

But them making the main content of the update a "hard gamemode" has never worked

at the end of the day the only real ways to make a gamemode hard are either making a forced dps check or a gamemode like cid

people voted against stuff like cid raid

and making "hard" content where the difficulty is just a dps check either results in a gamemode requiring co-op or monarchs which will not be received well either

They're shown that they are unable to make hard content that doesn't impact the game insanely negatively, so I don't think they should even bother with mandatory hard content anymore

[vocal fjord]

you can’t and shouldn’t balance a game around an unbalanced trait

we all know how fucked ALS is

[jade wyvern]

what part

[vocal fjord]

the balancing

[jade wyvern]

i dont see much problems with it

[jade wyvern]

only problem is that they dont make elements as relevant anymore

[vocal fjord]

there’s like 100 more problems then that 🥹

[dim jacinth]

Here's an idea, play the game without traits if you want harder content

better yet

dont use any limited units, only units that any player can obtain, see how easy the game is

[gray tulip]

💀

The problems are them having to nerf units every other week because they're balanced that horribly

They keep making dumbass shit like %hp nukes or insta kills or %hp summons to the point where its literally not worth getting most new units compared to ones that came out in halloween

Every single mode is a dps check with nothing else to it, 99% of characters have insanely bland kits that boil down to "does damage and has nuke for boss"

The passives are unnecessarily long to the point where even balancers don't know what they're supposed to entail

And worst of all they decide to make units like sjw and rimuru as if anybodys clicking on a unit more than 5 times in als

The damage and health values have gotten to the point where the game literally can't even accurately process what's supposed to happen

Either the units in an upd overshadow even the previous godly by a huge margin or they're completely dogshit, there's no in between.

[jade wyvern]

lol what

[rigid anvil]

No

noones soing all that

[jade wyvern]

Yeah man you just dont play als

[gray tulip]

I wonder what happened with lelouch and death the kid

Mhm i dont have every godly glitched glorious or anything

[rigid anvil]

what do u expect in av server

[jade wyvern]

He's speaking with full confidence aswell

[gray tulip]

Not like that means much with this nrw mode

[rigid anvil]

💀 💀

[dim jacinth]

Then quit whining for harder content you impidimp

[gray tulip]

Ofc i am, if im wrong then it shouldnt be hard to prove me wrong

[jade wyvern]

i dont have the energy for it rn if you wanna debate ping me in like 16 hours

[gray tulip]

Pretty straightforward question, did lelouch and death son get nerfed or not?

Answering a yes or no question doesn't really take much energy

[jade wyvern]

Yeah

the nerf equivalent of Kaguya's, which did nothing

[gray tulip]

Not... really? Losing access to a 15% max hp nuke and having to spend 1.5m yen to get it is pretty significant. Ofc it doesnt really matter since the gamemode that gives the best rewards by far is a 10 second tinytask farm but thats just a seperate issue in of itself

[rigid anvil]

no

[gray tulip]

I sure do love how you can get more pearls in a few hours atm than you'd have gotten in an entire week like a month ago, really cool.

Also kaguya's nerf was very significant for wl, "nobody plays wl" is a bad argument because wl is the hardest progressive content. Surprisez a nerf matters for hard content and doesn't affect modes meant to be doable with blitz units

[vocal fjord]

oh my god LOL

if you disagree YOU don’t play als or your brain has gotten SO FRIED that you cant understand what he’s saying

he is 100% correct you’re just completely stupid

[regal hull]

Broly, sukuna, griffith are all very strong units that can beat 99.9% of the game together even if there traitless.

i might be incorrect but im pretty sure the only stage they cant beat traitless is the dandadan rift

[upbeat monolith]

the enderian is one of the finest av players

when it comes to debate

but in general

av being better than als isnt a big feat lol

we are BAD already when he point is comparing AV to ALS

btw hard ≠ funny content

we need fun content, replayability

[vestal olive]

because while we do want a harder game, the situation with this suggestion is absolute dogshit lmao

there's no solution, no real suggestion of any kind

Suggestion has the right direction, unfortunately it just didn't even manage to take a single step outside the front door

[regal hull]

Isn’t that the same thing? There isn’t much fun in placing 1 unit and winning

[upbeat monolith]

ye strategy and reward feeling

is what make the game fun (tower defense genre)

[regal hull]

Yea that’s why we need harder content?

[upbeat monolith]

strategy means harder content ye

but it should be balanced, if they dont know how to do it, just keep it easy

doing hard slop content is worst than easy slop

[regal hull]

Ehh true but there isn’t really a way to gauge how fun it truly is without the players telling them

[rigid anvil]

why u move goal post every messege

[hazy obsidian]

harder eh

i think it should have harder content

but you shouldn't require people to play said content

good exmaple is WL
wl traitless is a very hard gamemode if u wanna get top 12 and theres actual strategy but its not REQUIRED just for people who want to enjoy hard content

[vestal olive]

I'm glad I pushed for a traitless WL

it's probably one of the only genuinely difficult modes later on, but some of it still comes down to limited units, I think

[modern glacier]

lb shouldnt be the only hard content

[forest jolt]

What i want is a mechanic heavily stage like destiny 2 raid but not requesting repeating doing this that's probably hard enough

[simple phoenix]

Fs literally nothing in this game requires a brain rn

[vocal ginkgo]

Tbh the only fun hard content is the one u dont have to repeat a bajillion times

Hence why confluence was acclaimed

Because its costant progression

[long briar]

does bro know about sand village sasori?💔

[oak kernel]

escanor can solo it

[obsidian hound]

add mechanics like als and tds does

[steel ginkgo]

which mechanic exactly?

[obsidian hound]

the one im thinking about specifically is flying enemies and anti air/hybrid units

[vocal fjord]

no.

[obsidian hound]

u can place one singular escanor and finish every level

[midnight berry]

Air

[vocal fjord]

that just creates another issue where hybrid units are gonna be better than ground units objectively

ALS makes it standard to have hybrid units

[obsidian hound]

how else are u supposed to make the game not an escanor simulator

[midnight berry]

Creates a environment where ground units are useless unless they have like double the dps of the hybrids
Sounds so fun

[obsidian hound]

or make levels that actually require brainpower

[midnight berry]

And then we can add the astd modifier where only ground units can hit the enemy type to make matches even more annoying

[vocal fjord]

i think it would be unimaginably stupid to make a unit that requires 50 hours to get not solo the entire game

"me worked so hard for unit why he so good"

[midnight berry]

Also it would lowk be dumb if escanor was just a ground

[vocal fjord]

i dont understand this complaint at all

[obsidian hound]

you know how easy it is to get 3m iced tea

hes way too good

[vocal fjord]

its not easy.. unless.. you just tinytasked it

[obsidian hound]

if ur on mobile u can chill in afk chamber for a day and get him

[vocal fjord]

not even close to true LOL

[midnight berry]

More like a month

[obsidian hound]

couple of days

[midnight berry]

You massively overestimate afk chamber
Its so shit

[supple zodiac]

like a week of leaving your computer on for 24 hours a day 😭

[midnight berry]

And that's if 2x is on

[supple zodiac]

nerf afk chamber

[obsidian hound]

ima be real i completely forget that people care about electric bills

[supple zodiac]

💔

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1214106224933470209/1432185972564561940/attachment.gif

[obsidian hound]

ts credit

[midnight berry]

Also why we acting like banner vanguards arent the longest meta unit grinds in the game

[obsidian hound]

even excluding vanguards look at broly he makes aizen and dante have over 150k dps while having over 150k dps on his own

[vocal fjord]

broly.. is a vanguard? 💔

[obsidian hound]

guess what

i got him in a day 🥀

[vocal fjord]

and i dont think those 150k dps are totally accurate

[vocal fjord]

good. all vanguards should take less than 20 hours to get imo

[supple zodiac]

a days grind is a good amount of time for a unit icl 😭

shouldnt have to grind for weeks for a single unit

[obsidian hound]

for a unit that literally soloes the entire game, also a day is an estimate i got him after they fixed the bug with the last mission

[supple zodiac]

also not as short as als

[supple zodiac]

its not like a new player logs in and can beat the mission that day

:sobg

[obsidian hound]

u can get freiza then solo it

ive done it a plethora of times

[midnight berry]

Outside of the 30 sacrafices the dungeon is quite noob friendly

[supple zodiac]

doesnt include farming the mats getting the 30 sacrifices and evoing the 3 units

[obsidian hound]

fair

tbf u get like 500 gems in like 2 minutes in odyssey

[supple zodiac]

no new player is going straight to odyssey 😭

[obsidian hound]

lvl 5 delta soloes it

im pretty sure u can solo it with legendary units

[supple zodiac]

which they have to beat cid raid

like 15 times for

i also wasnt

saying odyssey was hard

im not talking about alters

[vocal fjord]

“i spent 6 hours grinding for a unit, why is he so good?!”

literally none of your complaints have made sense so far. you’re literally complaining that a unit you’ve spent a lot of time on are “too good”

[supple zodiac]

im talking about a genuine new player\

who just wants to play the game

[obsidian hound]

all i do when i play av is place broly use his ability then go on tiktok

thats genuinenly so boring

[vocal fjord]

i don’t think ATD is for you then

[supple zodiac]

did you play elemental confluence?

[obsidian hound]

what else am i supposed to play theres nothing on rlbx

[supple zodiac]

thats the newest example of the direction

they wanna take hard content in

[obsidian hound]

imo thats like one of the only endgame things

[supple zodiac]

yeah because they havent updated

since then

😭

[vocal ginkgo]

buy games, 99% of things on roblox are braindead

[gleaming cypress]

It does, people without Gilgamesh are stuck in the same floor

[supple zodiac]

that was the most recent content added

[obsidian hound]

no game treats me as good as deepwoken 🥀

one of the three games i like on rblx

[supple zodiac]

they already said the reaction to elemental confluence was good so they're most likely going to do harder content more like that

[gleaming cypress]

^^^^

[vocal fjord]

play something other than roblox? roblox has only had trash shit all year

[supple zodiac]

elemental confluence is just the best way to do it 🥹

optional

[obsidian hound]

theres no other deeplike games i can find im not 16 i cant get a job to get money

[supple zodiac]

non endgame players are still able to get some of the rewards

theres more to do than place down the one unit

[obsidian hound]

thats one gamemode

[supple zodiac]

that they already said

[gleaming cypress]

Exactly, not like the GGEX which locked the best unit in the update

[supple zodiac]

thats the direction

they wanna take it

your forgetting

[rigid anvil]

what does thie even mean

[supple zodiac]

it was added THIS UPDATE

[pearl lion]

Labubu

[obsidian hound]

i think anime tower defenses

[obsidian hound]

vro its been a month im losing it ok?

[supple zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1214106224933470209/1432185972564561940/attachment.gif

[rigid anvil]

that guy lacking brain

[supple zodiac]

i still need to finish passion 💔

[obsidian hound]

2 single good passion units 🥀

[pearl lion]

Astolfo plus lfelt is the way

[supple zodiac]

yeah i just suck

[obsidian hound]

is the unit with the new vf passion

[gleaming cypress]

Orihime and Lfelt solo it

[gleaming cypress]

Yes

[obsidian hound]

what u need orihime for

[gleaming cypress]

Cleansing mind control

[obsidian hound]

i heard that u cant cleanse that but oh well

[gleaming cypress]

Lfelt does all the dps

[gleaming cypress]

You can, only with her tho

Same goes for the GGEX cleanse

[obsidian hound]

oh

[vocal fjord]

ATD are chill and laid back games, not something that requires your full attention and effort

[gleaming cypress]

[vocal fjord]

ummm have you never asked your parents to buy games??

[obsidian hound]

my parents only care about my brother and sister i received 10 dollars for my birthday 🥀

[pearl lion]

How does that work? Your unit becomes an enemy walking towards the base

[valid matrix]

deepwoken the only game of its kind

[obsidian hound]

real

u never quit deepwoken just take long breaks

[gleaming cypress]

Before that it gets attacked, you can cleanse that attack with orihime and it will no longer get mind controlled

[pearl lion]

Deepwoken would be a top 1 game on roblox if the community was normal

[gleaming cypress]

PD games are just full of weirdos

[obsidian hound]

if it was on steam id cry tears of joy

[gleaming cypress]

Just look at tarkov

[pearl lion]

Sadly

[rigid anvil]

so upgrrading and placing units doesnt require effort or attention

[gleaming cypress]

Not really, no

[rigid anvil]

yeah u got no brain

[gleaming cypress]

😭😭😭

[rigid anvil]

i cant argue with people who dumb it make me angry

[obsidian hound]

place farm alt tab upgrade farm then place a good unit then upgrade them then alt tab back

[gleaming cypress]

The biggest idiot in this server says that lol

[pearl lion]

Imagine being able to mod Deepwoken 🔥

[rigid anvil]

that still rwquires effort and attention bro

[gleaming cypress]

You must hate talking to yourself

[obsidian hound]

0.00000000001% of your brains ability

[valid matrix]

0 way that would work

[rigid anvil]

how does someone talk to themself

[gleaming cypress]

It doesn’t, you click once or twice per wave and tab out

[pearl lion]

If it was on steam

[rigid anvil]

L bait

[gleaming cypress]

You probably can’t, your brain doesn’t have the capacity

[valid matrix]

that has nothing to do with it

[obsidian hound]

theres like 4 npcs that i know DAMN well something bads gunna happen to them

[obsidian hound]

theyd have more freedom to do stuff

[pearl lion]

The guy I replied to was talking about if dw was on steam

It's a hypothetical

[gleaming cypress]

You would only be able to mod some stuff like models etc. no big mods since the game is an online service

[valid matrix]

karliah blood rend trainer the tiran girl and klaris

[obsidian hound]

i forgot about the 5th, eylis

and the 6th, aelita

[vocal fjord]

close to none

[obsidian hound]

maybe itd be client sided

[gleaming cypress]

No point in arguing honestly, OP isn’t a completely functional human

They definitely take the short bus

[vocal fjord]

😭

[obsidian hound]

if u have two+ monitors then u can literally flick your head then do something for a fifth of a second then go back to the other monitor

[valid matrix]

bump make the game harder

[obsidian hound]

real

apart from elemental confluence i can place escanor down and finish the entire game and im assuming u will be able to do that for a lot of future updates

[vocal fjord]

they could make the game harder but it would be unreasonable to have it be scaled to monarch vanguards

so it wouldnt make a difference for me either way

[rigid anvil]

it would cause ur garbage

[obsidian hound]

make a trait in between ethereal and monarch so that its not as monarch reliant or something

[gleaming cypress]

They already said that traits won’t be touched

[rigid anvil]

5 more star till spotlight 👀

[pearl lion]

Avatar

[obsidian hound]

bro knew 🥀

[rigid anvil]

no

[obsidian hound]

thats so stupid the only point to play the game end game is to get rerolls for monarchs and thats it

and then u repeat the process an hour after update

[gleaming cypress]

And it will continue to be that way, if they were to make the game harder that will be even more obvious and solid in a future

[obsidian hound]

oh well

[gleaming cypress]

Let’s just aim for the “hard” content to be optional and for the rest to be fun not just boring and easy as most people think it is now

A mix between fun and easy would be nice or for the sake of it for it to be a little challenging

Let’s not advocate for the game to be an ASTDX 2.0 where it’s unbearable to play

[vocal fjord]

uh huh..

[midnight berry]

Even when astdx isn't that hard its just annoying
That new trial is so annoying to play

[gleaming cypress]

Update got sniped

It’s like they are trying to loose players 😭😭

[midnight berry]

Its a solid update but its too little too late

And grinding orbs is one of the most boring things imaginable

[gleaming cypress]

Yeah, the game was unbearable to play since their so called “summer” update and they kept making it more annoying and annoying progressively

Lost well over 310k players in less than 4 months, that has to be a feat

[midnight berry]

Out of all their updates this is the one I've hated the least
But its still not great, especially with that naruto npc trial wanting me to have actually good oranges

[gleaming cypress]

They are tripping, give us old ASTD back 😭

[midnight berry]

And the new enemy modifer is awful, tho the idea behind it isn't bad

They made flying v2, and then just added it together with every other modifier making gameplay even worse

[gleaming cypress]

I just feel like the game is never tested properly, they have good ideas in paper but whenever they actually get implemented they make you want to cry because of how fucking annoying they are

[midnight berry]

Yea

Also dont get me started on that sandbox ui

[vocal fjord]

so i just hopped on astd:X and WHAT THE HELL DID THEY DO TO THE UI

ITS TOO FUCKING BIG BRO 😭

[midnight berry]

Added a bunch of bars nobody asked for🤑

[gleaming cypress]

And that applies to every single thing over the last months, every update isn’t that bad when you look at logs but playing it is worse than being 1 day in the Tartarus of hell.

[gleaming cypress]

It’s a fucking mess 😭 fire whoever handles the Ui

[midnight berry]

For some reason they are forced to pick between 2 things for trials, 3 paths or a new mechanic that is annoying as fuck

[vocal fjord]

oh this is awful

[midnight berry]

Like genuinely I think chat gpt could do better

[gleaming cypress]

They can’t just make a simple and fun update

It’s like it can’t get posted unless they add something that totally ruins everything fun and good about it

[midnight berry]

Also its funny af to me that they have now made a unit that you cannot put traits on, proving that traits were a stupid addition

[gleaming cypress]

Removed one of the only things that made ASTD unique from the rest, they completely butchered every sense of identity and turned into another soulless cash grab

For the sake of it, units didn’t have passives until this update

Literal models with animations and damage

[midnight berry]

The fact that banner secrets still have ascensions is insane

[midnight berry]

Some of these passives are so extra too

Makes me feel like im playing als

[gleaming cypress]

“Yeah so if you want your units to be at max you gotta pull the 1/20k 4 times”

“Also no, we won’t add a good way to get gems, so have fun while you are at it”

[midnight berry]

Also naruto update with no madara is wild

[gleaming cypress]

“When unit gets placed gain: +10% damage +5% range”

[midnight berry]

Want to max your orbs? Go do like 5 hours of inf

[midnight berry]

Strongest sorcerer is that you

[gleaming cypress]

At least we got kabuto, right?

[vocal fjord]

is that really how theyre doing it 😭

[midnight berry]

Bro i didn't even remember his name😭

[vocal fjord]

remember when you only had to beat a trial one time for the fire orb

or for the cost orb

[gleaming cypress]

Yes

[midnight berry]

Yea you play a specific inf, get lootbox, lootbox gives crafting mats only for orbs

[vocal fjord]

#bringbackdamagetask

[gleaming cypress]

Basically ALS souls 2.0

[vocal fjord]

i also saw you had to upgrade orbs

ASTD IT WAS YOUR FUCKING FEATURE FIRST, WHY ARE YOU COPYING ALS

[midnight berry]

Yea
New als souls are so lame

Old als souls were so much better

[gleaming cypress]

When they changed them and nerfed everyone’s souls to be lower than original values 😂😂

[vocal fjord]

they needed to add more gambling into it

[gleaming cypress]

Yeah, they were simple to craft and to upgrade. Now it’s a mess that requires inf

[midnight berry]

Worst part is they are actually good too
Range one is like 20% range, more dmg to enemies near end of range, and Some other secret buff only given who its maxed

[midnight berry]

When they first made the change rates were so bad
Like 3 hours of inf just to end up with straight fs on my soul

[gleaming cypress]

You would do an inf to wave 300 just to be able to roll once or twice

[vestal olive]

is that unit even good

[midnight berry]

Eh
Worse than allstar Ramen guy

Good for traitless stuff

Shes like 3x more expensive than allstar Ramen guy for 2x more income

[vestal olive]

wait

is it a farm unit

[midnight berry]

Yes

Its the farm

[vestal olive]

that you can't put traits on

that's so fucking stupid what

[midnight berry]

Cuz they couldn't figure out how to balance a 1 placement farm cuz allstar is like 2.5x more income

[vestal olive]

all star should've never worked on farms to begin with

[midnight berry]

It didn't, then they made it do that, and now we are stuck with traitless farm😭

[vocal fjord]

it should, i feel scammed for getting monarch on my takaroda

i hated AV for months cause of that

[midnight berry]

And even tho she's 5 star also has no skill tree
Which is way more understandable but cmon

[vocal fjord]

there is no skill tree for farms

its all just dmg buffs and whatnot

they need to rework the skill tree entirely

[midnight berry]

They could make dmg buff it
Money has a stat on farms for some reason

Its all just kinda silly and they made setting up farms even harder in the trial cuz there are ground only enemies, flying enemies, and powerful enemies

[vestal olive]

I'm just gonna say, games with traits should not make the rarest trait (or second rarest, cough cough) the best farm trait in any circumstance

ALS, AA

[midnight berry]

i said banner for a reason, quest ones are quite a bit shorter
but yea 24-72 hours straight of the most efficient grinding method is the longest in the game

[midnight berry]

they made golden rare as shit for no damn reason

[vestal olive]

least researched mushy123 take

[vestal olive]

so you could roll it on every unit that wasn't a farm and be mad about it

That is what I said

Specifically in regards to farms

for other units, I get it. But also the typical level of power absurd

Yes. And if ALS wasn't handing out glitched like candy, it'd be awful

[midnight berry]

and dont forget about how als has a pearl trait specifically for farms thats 0.1%

[vestal olive]

Standard damage units will come and go, they change around in teams all the time. But farms are the cornerstone of any team, so their optimization is typically the most important thing to get out of the way

[vestal olive]

I've managed to roll 5 of those enchants and not need a single swapper once

[midnight berry]

lowk i forgot they added a swapper

[vestal olive]

i have so many

and they do nothing

??????

[midnight berry]

same thing applies to glitched

[vestal olive]

I'm not

I have nothing against a new farm unit

[midnight berry]

im against a new farm because the more farms i roll on the higher odds of me pulling monarch on one
i cant go through it again

[vestal olive]

Literally the only thing I'm saying is "monarch type traits shouldn't benefit farms"

which I'm glad AV doesn't

I wouldn't mind a new farm unit

I'm glad AV only has one farm trait and it's just a golden trait

[shadow moss]

game can get hard hard but majority of the hard content is locked behind hours of playing through 150 worldline floors or playing 2 hours of inf so enjoy going thorugh that and the other content is tourneys which for now is just following a yt vid,

really makes endgame content in here look like a joke and disincentivizes people because if you want to challenge yourself you either find 2+ players or spend hours and hours of playing worldlines just to finally get content difficult enough to warrant a monarch

i think it might be a issue when most peoples hardest thing they have done is gg ex act 1

rather make the agme harder id rather make the hard content more accessible to even start doing in the first place

make infs not take ten years because you have stuff like cid nuke building up so you turn off waveskip to let it build up
make worldlines have higher hp scaling so you get to the harder rooms faster
tourney yeah but we'll have to wait for next update for the changes to happen

then its a issue on their part? i dont think devs have to listen to difficulty changes to be toned down especially on ex stages, was aot ex ever nerfed cause i dont recall. if a stage is beatable through just thinking then it just doesnt require being nerfed

how regularly do they even increase hp scaling on wl anyways

i feel like they barely even do and even when they do its not that massive of a increase

[old bison]

no pls

[shadow moss]

great 9.0 units further pushing wl leaderboard higher and higher

i do feel hp scaling increases work its just that they dont increase it high enough to compensate for next units update power

fair, ive seen the hp on aot and wow thats a 66m boss on like floor 150 ish

honestly they could just increase the hp scaling on some specific maps where they need it, most maps/stages are essentially free wins

[midnight berry]

i think thats a major pain to do with how their system currently works

[shadow moss]

anyways point is to even get to that point it takes so longgg to even get to that point and it deters a massive chunk of the community away

doesnt help that the rewards suck if you aren't top 12 except for wl those just suck

fun fact worldlines titles werent even being given out properly until this update😭

we had like? 6 seasons of worldlines by then and people complained wl lb titles werent given out for a long time

[midnight berry]

werent given out .
but they kinda were cuz of the unit titles

[shadow moss]

no i meant that titles like Worldline Conquerer and Worldline Contender wasnt properly being given out to top 12 and top 32 of each wl season

[midnight berry]

ye ik

i just mean t32 was kinda given out cuz unit titles were t32

like why rock worldine contender when you can use blade saint

[shadow moss]

to be fair on infs part, one mistake kinda kills 2-3 hours of your run but they definitely need to buff worldline rewards if they want people to actually intereact wiht it past 50

[midnight berry]

probably

i think the title is just locked behind having the unit

[shadow moss]

flex ig? i do wished they made the lb title looked cooler

instead of just a flat orange

[midnight berry]

just wouldnt really be a good idea at all imo
would make wl shinies one of the highest value things in the game, even higher than alot of lb units cuz they wouldnt be complete garbage

[gleaming cypress]

Mind you, that translates into hours of playtime. not everyone can and will AFK it. So yeah they are still hard to get units regardless.

[shadow moss]

i think shiny also being given out to top32 is fine even if it has a risk of lowering the units value and in return maybe giving something exclusive to them, increasing rr rewards off every lb spot is also warranted

giving the shiny wl unit 20 more copies per each season doesn't seem that dramatic imho

honestly if they are real lazy they'll probably just toss in the inf lb skin there 😭

and i doubt anyone on the top 12 needs any more rrs

[gleaming cypress]

Im not talking about myself, I used tiny task for it. But a decent part of the playerbase will have to farm those 3M iced tea manually and in the worst case scenario, you are looking at 48/72 hours of farming one stage over and over

[shadow moss]

but yeah they really just dont care about comp community which is sad to see

[gleaming cypress]

Even if you are top 12 they are still bad

Realistically, the only valuable thing is the shiny

You get like 20-30 rerolls 😭 for having to go through hours and hours of stages

That too

But the system is too far gone to change it

People will complain, as worldlines are already boring enough and having to go through 3X of the duration of worlines to potentially get a character you like shiny won’t be liked by many.

[deep trout]

x = 67

make a game mode that’s harder depending on your player level

[ripe ridge]

i had to

[clear crown]

gg ex is soloable with escanor

[vestal olive]

Armored:

[granite thorn]

Nah what we need is an escanor buff , make him multi hit

Tbh maybe it's just me but if they can get people into PVP I think that would solve the issue of people having no hard content

[vocal fjord]

NOT true btw

[oak kernel]

is true if you have his vf that give him multiple placements ignoring if the escanor have unique

[torpid citrus]

Cuz the guy put 0 effort into this
I could also just make a suggestion about making the game harder while putting nothing in there and itd end the same way

[rigid anvil]

noones reading ur paragraphs bruh

[vocal fjord]

we get it, you can’t read because you’re a moron

[rigid anvil]

idc

[tropic escarp]

[rigid anvil]

i heard u the first time

[tropic escarp]

[rigid anvil]

brush ur teeth

[tropic escarp]

[rigid anvil]

it gets to a pint

[tropic escarp]

[blissful grove]

pint

[torpid citrus]

Don’t make suggestions if you can’t take criticism

[modern glacier]

son why is there a fucking credit

[torpid citrus]

Because we credit the people who made it?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246441561877778434/1410985330705825843/captionTwo.gif

[tropic escarp]

It isnt criticm its pure ragebait

Criticism

[vocal fjord]

this suggestion is ragebait.

[sharp sand]

please be nicer to eachother

[oak egret]

ishtar

[remote ocean]

Bro thought his top 10 pvp is tuff till he got muted

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1415439093407551508/1429996703678730300/AV_mods.gif

[gleaming cypress]

If a mod sees this, you are gone

[remote ocean]

@frank venture

This guy is threatining me

[scarlet needle]

[gleaming cypress]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262129074613260291/1411106642258559078/togif.gif

[unkempt plover]

@rigid anvil this suggestion is so cool I hope you don't eho me

[clear crown]

w

what r u talking about put moanrch escanor in the middle and you basidcly win choose monarchs burden

[vocal fjord]

stop ragebaiting on discord

[clear crown]

bro never tried

[tropic escarp]

Monarch escanor does sadly solo 99% of game

[gleaming cypress]

Kings burden isn’t in GG EX 😭

Lying to lie

You are confusing it with dandadans thing probably

[clear crown]

i thought gg meant\ the unit

[gleaming cypress]

Nono, it’s referring to the guilty gear ex

[clear crown]

whoops

[gleaming cypress]

Escanor can’t solo that because of armored, shields and he gets stolen in wave 15 😭

[clear crown]

nah but you can prob solo with like griffy and kaguya and like news man idk

sukuna

[gleaming cypress]

Oh yeah, they can now with no problem

But back then it was hell

[clear crown]

brodly]

[gleaming cypress]

Kaguya, Griffith and sukuna do it with zero issue

[clear crown]

you cant even max them all out

[gleaming cypress]

You don’t need to, you only need to max kaguya

As you will kill the boss with the nuke

[clear crown]

and like sukuna full aoe

[gleaming cypress]

Yeah, idk if you get enough cash tho. Haven’t tried honestly

[clear crown]

but yea they should make the game harder i have like 9 monarchs

atleast an optional harder difficulty

[rigid anvil]

dont give me order

[rigid anvil]

whos eho

[rigid anvil]

ok

[unkempt plover]

Ego*

[rigid anvil]

i aint

[frank venture]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-goblin-emote-update-clash-royale-china-gif-9426582029252565792

[peak depot]

Go ka hairy dont have it

[torpid citrus]

dont give me order

it’s orders btw 😂

[frail owl]

the endgame av experience

[tropic escarp]

[tropic escarp]

[tropic escarp]

[tropic escarp]

[rigid anvil]

job

[rigid anvil]

u gonna keep crying or no

[tropic escarp]

[tropic escarp]

[torpid citrus]

are you gonna keep crying or not*

😂

[tropic escarp]

He is ragebaiting on purpose lol

[torpid citrus]

i know