Value tier list for trading

[tight quest]

I recommend that a trusted staff or mod should make a value tier list this allows for people to be weary of scams

The tier list should contain past skin bundles (skin only)
Limited units
Event units

If not I recommend the devs to ask a trusted youtuber to make a value table to avoid confusion among players

(GPO TIERLIST WAS JUST REFERENCE)

[warped river]

Please ensure that your suggestion follows the Suggestion Rules in #1351363086409531392,

[craggy rivet]

ill handle this.

[livid galleon]

[lyric dawn]

Can i ask for perms to be the only one to make and edit such list?

[fierce river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1291403649825771561/1327923843548840036/togif.gif

[knotty mirage]

So azure kraken set worth Diego?

[copper dawn]

birbs r just gonna be the most valued item tho

[spiral pelican]

shiny diavolo prob #1, then a god birb, then bundles, then the rest

[thorny coral]

-nobody follow official value lists unless they want to be scammed
-there is always a bias in the value list

[spiral pelican]

true

[thorny coral]

and values are impossible to set because not everyone look the unit in the same way

[spiral pelican]

a lot of trading value is completely subjective, a hard list just makes it harder to trade

[solemn summit]

i dont ever like these because theyre subjective as fuck

[thorny coral]

and most of them are ass

[solemn summit]

i only trade for the things i actually want and trading lists can make that so annoying sometimes, because things that arent actually worth that much are somehow very valuable

[thorny coral]

aa value list team is a example
the value the tournaments units had was a big lie because nobody traded for them around that value
in fact everyone downgrade it lol

[waxen oracle]

@wise knot

[austere marsh]

No wtf

[wise knot]

me and @still jewel were working on a tl, am waiting for his response now that trading is announced

[tight quest]

Its going to happen anyway , some content creators is just going to make a vid

Inevitable

[wise knot]

youtubers are always wrong about values

every single time 😭, they just overpay with bundles because they're rich

[waxen oracle]

hows the progress on it

[solemn summit]

and then trading is fucked

[wise knot]

(last time it was updates was like around 3.5 I think )

[craggy rivet]

is it the one with shiny diego at 7 rerolls

[waxen oracle]

so the time we had dms 💔

i want diavolo to be valued about 150k rerolls thanks

owner choice tbh

[tight quest]

In reality I just say to trade for a shiny or unit you truly want

[tight quest]

Ishtar skin gonna cost your left eye ball

[wise knot]

forgot

[versed hollow]

You left leg*

[wise knot]

nothing in av is owner's choice prob
Other than like a 30% 30% 45% 30% birb ( never happpening)

[golden hound]

i wouldnt mind a value list that js has categories like high value n medium value n low value

[austere marsh]

wont be official

only reason i don't like official value lits is because the value team can use it to manipulate the market to get whichever unit they want to get

which has happened a LOT

[tight quest]

Thats what happened to gpo

[wise knot]

ts was what I was working on alone before working with jodio (it's very old don't trust anything it says, the values were mostly placeholders and would never be true for today)

[tight quest]

Half the av community won't be smart enough to notice

[austere marsh]

okay so ur not including in the dupes

n banned owners

[wise knot]

it was old

most broly owners were still playing

[tight quest]

I never got how the value numbers worked? Can you tell how

[worthy ferry]

in my opinion the community should decide what a units value is

[crystal apex]

Its just made up numbers

[mighty gulch]

sooo who wanna trade their shiny diego for 3 godly birbs

[tight quest]

Imagine if they make familiar trading only between another familiar?

[wise knot]

they wouldn't do that

[crystal apex]

That would just lead to scamming

[wise knot]

since people would just do unit trade for shitty units then familiar trade to shitty familiar ( aka having to do 2 trades for 1 trade) scams

[austere marsh]

how? you can just check the stats of each one

assuming it's a thing... bc in aa it was AWFUL lol u couldnt tell if it was a real sss or the right %

[crystal apex]

People trade shit fam for good one, then another trade for rrs or whatever they actually want

[austere marsh]

ah double trades

[wise knot]

people would still want to trade familiars for units so they would just seperate it into 2 trades

[willow ridge]

Gpo was peak back then

[austere marsh]

just use mm

[crystal apex]

Cuz nobody will trade fams just for eachother

[tight quest]

It was watashi Ruby's fault for trading in gpo to be dog

[crystal apex]

Like what incentive is there to trade your god birb if all possible trade options are worse than the god birb

[mighty gulch]

overpaying with quantity

actually nvm

[tight quest]

Is there even a familiar thats worth anything aside from birb?

[crystal apex]

Strange cat

But God birb better than God strange cat

[mighty gulch]

if you have a good strange cat its somewhat compareable but not really

[wise knot]

no one's gonna accept smth like 100 shitty black spirits for a god birb 😭

[austere marsh]

50% dmg cat >

[crystal apex]

Silly fairy also will have good value
For farm minmaxing

[mighty gulch]

w-w-hat about 9 turbo grannys 🥺 they all have c3 🙏

[wise knot]

turbo grannys prob shitty demand

[crystal apex]

Outside of those 3 fams are practically valueless

And if vfs are tradeable that's prob decent value with low demand

[wise knot]

what about foos for buffers

[crystal apex]

Eh a good foo is very easy to get

And alot of the good buffers now are also dps

[wise knot]

eh true

[crystal apex]

But yea god foo could have good value

[austere marsh]

ig a 15% might have crazy value

[thorny coral]

5 seconds padoru will have crazy value right

[tight quest]

Most would trade for cosmetic purposes I think

[crystal apex]

Silly fairy decimated its value

Padoru only useful for longer modes atp

[tight quest]

Bro if they make a time limit of 5 trades a day , its so over

[thorny coral]

ad moment

[wise knot]

they should

[tight quest]

Yeah ngl its not even a bad idea

Depends how they execute it

[waxen sable]

shiny seiko 120

[wise knot]

yeah it's annoying but people could just abuse the trade system

[thorny coral]

just not give captcha

[wise knot]

obviously not, the tierlist is false as I said

[waxen sable]

i didnt read ur messages

[crystal apex]

All you need to do is look at seban

Seban had like 3 seasons, like 20 lbs, and dupes

[tight quest]

If people get caught scamming ( if your stupid enough to do it) they should get a permanent title "scammer" or smth

[thorny coral]

time to flex it

[mighty gulch]

Lwk that should just be a bannable offense

[pulsar scaffold]

fr

[mighty gulch]

highkey actually

[wise knot]

ts not happening

[tight quest]

I know but it would be funny

[winged warren]

the owner should make it not staff bruh

[mighty gulch]

title of shame

[tight quest]

Wiki ppl

[thorny coral]

i remember in aa discord server a guy with scammer role talking and flexing the scam

[winged warren]

or them

[thorny coral]

hell no
we will end with something like the yba tier list

[wise knot]

if ur getting scammed then that's on you 😭

[crystal apex]

It just shouldn't be made

[mighty gulch]

i mean true but like what about the scammer like do they face no repercussions

[tight quest]

Best course of action is just to trade for what you really want

[mighty gulch]

surely there's one in place right

[wise knot]

public shame

[crystal apex]

How does one even get scammed

[wise knot]

what do yo want to do to a scammer 😭

[mighty gulch]

Wait

[wise knot]

idk some cross trading prob

[crystal apex]

Then the punishment is a ban

[desert shuttle]

middleman/double trades

[thorny coral]

giving him unevo units

[wise knot]

unevo unit name and evo unit name are different

[thorny coral]

i give a guy a unnevo homura for their shiny kisuke and the guy didn't even check if the homura was evo

[mighty gulch]

What if we add a spot to the lobby in the center where we make an npc the scammers avatar and display their usernames

[mighty gulch]

or like a global chat for scammers..

[crystal apex]

Ppl would scam on purpose for that

[waxen sable]

swapping

[thorny coral]

swapping shiny rengoku to the non shiny version

[mighty gulch]

maaaaan

[wise knot]

I'd find it soo funny if someone just trades an unevo bp unit and leaves the bp mats with him 😭

[crystal apex]

Swapping would cancel the trade countdown no?

[thorny coral]

is barely notable the difference

[waxen sable]

before accepting

[crystal apex]

Ah just dumb people
Makes sense

[tight quest]

All they gotta do is add a "are you sure" before clicking trade

[mighty gulch]

i mean the chances someone would get scammed by an unevo unit is more likely than you think

due to the fact that av players are illiterate

[crystal apex]

Yea true I always forget that

[thorny coral]

people will still get scammed
trading is full of idiots and scammers

[tight quest]

World lines units and bundle skins are gonna get low balled so bad

I just know it

[waxen sable]

because they are pretty common

[tight quest]

Shiny subaru or esdeath

[crystal apex]

Wl units ofc
Bundle skins prob not

If the unit isn't shiny or super meta they will get lowballed so hard

[waxen sable]

those are shiny normal ones are pretty common

[tight quest]

Ima have to beg for shiny hunter now

[wise knot]

I am sure the trading system Is great considering how the devs have been rly cautious about adding it. They saw what happened to AD

[crystal apex]

Mfs gonna overcharge that so hard

In aa you had to pay like 3x the value list value to get shiny hunter

[waxen sable]

they were just waiting for more tradeable units/stuff but yeah we just gotta pray its good and wont ruin av

[wise knot]

What do you expect from robux payers, they will overcharge everything that costs robux

[still jewel]

Finally

I've been waiting for too long for trading

[wise knot]

I better not see someone trading the storage gamepass for a shiny diavolo on day 1

[mighty gulch]

awh hell nahw

[still jewel]

Im so glad

[tight quest]

Nah ppl that have shiny diavolo is gonna trade it for bp and 10k bundle

[wise knot]

Yeah am saying I better not see people wanting a shiny diavolo for the gamepass*

[digital patrol]

value tier list
SSS tier
units i have
F tier
units i dont have

[tight quest]

Im defo gonna see , ishtar skin asking for 5k rrs 😭🙏

[crystal apex]

They will
Trading is all about seeing how much value you can scam from chumps

[mighty gulch]

it sucks i have this sick ass halloween igris skin from ddd but noone uses igris anymore

[thorny coral]

if the cosmetic is good then people will overpay for it

[tight quest]

Ppl will trade just for cosemetics

[mighty gulch]

oh yeah forgot about cosmetics LOL

im def overpaying for shiny diego

[crystal apex]

Miku skin might have value from ppl not playing ddd right before it left

[thorny coral]

is a scam if i give a 10k bundle for shiny and non shiny julius

[mighty gulch]

what about st. itchas..

[crystal apex]

Why would you pay that much

[lofty ingot]

ban youtubers from making a value list

[thorny coral]

is julius bro

i missed him

[crystal apex]

The only character I know from wistoria is the mc

[wise knot]

the sudden increase of her drop rate right before the end of the event made her value tank a lot

[lofty ingot]

is my value good

[wise knot]

prob still has some value though

[digital patrol]

monarch newsman so tuff

[thorny coral]

does the miku skin give you a cosmetic

[crystal apex]

Yea

Its a skin

[wise knot]

ye

[ancient valley]

I got a bunch of old limiteds but genuinely what would i trade them for lol
im glad they made stuff more player friendly to farm and I hope they don't go back on that

[lofty ingot]

rrs

[wise knot]

it's still miku though, people will want that

[ancient valley]

ig but those got a lot more f2p recently so even then I dont need to

[thorny coral]

ig i should ask the guy more than 2 julius

[lofty ingot]

do it anyway to make them broke

[crystal apex]

Offering 6 seban and 10 miku skins for shiny diavolo
Is that comp

[lofty ingot]

no where are the bundles

and your entire inventory

[digital patrol]

will i get blade saint title if i get seban trading

[ancient valley]

the economy in this game gonna be so weird lol

[crystal apex]

Probably

Unless they changed title obtainment

[wise knot]

I'll be looking for an unevo haruka once trading drops for the emote 😭

[lofty ingot]

no but seriously ban youtubers for making a list

[mighty gulch]

do you guys think kaguya for killer bee is overpay

[thorny coral]

wait, seven have a title?

[lofty ingot]

yes

[crystal apex]

Nah man totally worth it

[digital patrol]

yes tuff one too

[crystal apex]

Yes all lb units do

[fast quest]

🥹

[lofty ingot]

if diavolo gets duped can we rollback and ban everyone

[fast quest]

trading vergil for diavolo

[waxen oracle]

i wont allow that dw

[thorny coral]

what is broly title

[ancient valley]

Trading Haruka Rin for Shiny Diavolo ong

[lofty ingot]

we dont need non worthy people getting him

[crystal apex]

Overflowing power or sum like that

[thorny coral]

ask for adds

[wise knot]

I might have to make an alt account to abuse vanguard pity

[lofty ingot]

trading for godly birb

[ancient valley]

I also want
one padoru uncorrupted of course

[lofty ingot]

OMG IM GONNA GET SO MANY BUNDLES FROM THIS

[mighty gulch]

and then farm levels with aot boss rush

[crystal apex]

Yea its overflowing power, blade saint, and octonaut

[mighty gulch]

octonaut?

[wise knot]

The octopus unit

[digital patrol]

the octopus from hxh

[lofty ingot]

rock lee? nvm

[mighty gulch]

i thought the octopus was a tourney unit

[thorny coral]

broly will cost me half life span

[crystal apex]

Nah he's last lb unit

[waxen oracle]

inf

[fast quest]

they will keep the trait?

[crystal apex]

Killer bee and rock Lee were tournament

[crystal apex]

No

[waxen oracle]

who knowns

[fast quest]

but this is hella unfair

like bro

[wise knot]

Keeping trait is the dumbest thing they could do

[digital patrol]

fym unfair bro

[thorny coral]

trading monarch escanor for shiny diavolo (not accepting other offers)

[fast quest]

i dont have ANY exclusive

[lofty ingot]

No offense but no atd has every let units keep their traits in a trade

[waxen oracle]

your fault

[thorny coral]

lock in then

[mighty gulch]

rags to riches

[digital patrol]

i just hop on alt farm aot boss rush redeem codes and trade to my main

[still jewel]

G Money, if you can, can you help me list out all current limited untis?

[crystal apex]

Cuz its a awful idea

[thorny coral]

ad did and it fucked the economy

[lofty ingot]

Why did they

[still jewel]

cause there are units such as Killer Bee and Rock lee that are tradable but I only knew cause i was doom scrolling AV wiki

[crystal apex]

Like limited ones that haven't left yet or all limited units in the game?

[fast quest]

wordline units would be tradeable??

[still jewel]

all limited check message above the one u said

[crystal apex]

Yes

[lofty ingot]

yes

[waxen oracle]

yes

[ancient valley]

honestly, it should reset stats and traits ong

[fast quest]

trading katakuri for diavolo 🔥

[waxen oracle]

then you just transfer stats before trading

[thorny coral]

stats no
let me trade godly stats

[digital patrol]

looking for 10k bundles

[mighty gulch]

if shiny frieren was the clone we saw in the anime instead of the maid im just sayin you getting 2 shiny diavolos for that

[ancient valley]

nah i had enough of that in aa 😭

[fast quest]

how??

[ancient valley]

but the stat transfer is better in this game so who knows whatll happen

[waxen oracle]

bug

[digital patrol]

i am a dev and I'm testing trading

[thorny coral]

the hell is choso doing there

[ancient valley]

I think i might still have a Suburu Portal

[mighty gulch]

can you test giving me 500 shiny diavolos

[lofty ingot]

Monkey king, CVI, slime, Leo, Clat, Choy, Frieren, esdeath, subaru, regna, GK, Priestess, wearher,Ali,Aladdin,Quet

[digital patrol]

sorry i have to gatekeep

[digital patrol]

he's just that tuff

[mighty gulch]

i understand

[austere marsh]

@crystal apex

[still jewel]

Okay thank you but there is more 😭 also what is CVI?

[lofty ingot]

Hiei, Reimu, Sakuya, Arc, Hebano, Merlin, Rudie, Vergil, Dark mage, Dante, Octopus, Rock lee, Killer B, lag shooter, Dave, Lucy, Emmie, Foboko, Karem

[ancient valley]

Danddadan units and Rengoku,

[austere marsh]

will mounts count as being tradeable?

[still jewel]

already added

[waxen oracle]

mahito mehamaru

[still jewel]

already added. I havea all units before VSJW upd added

[sleek canopy]

Watashi Ruby flashbacks

[waxen oracle]

well i know ive helped vanilla with the tl

[mighty gulch]

oh my shit mahito

[ancient valley]

Everyone forgot that grind for the old lady in the Dandadan update

[mighty gulch]

i forgot about mahito

[still jewel]

The tl he is working on is mine 😭

[thorny coral]

old lady

[ancient valley]

a 1% for 50 waves

[lofty ingot]

Giyuu Bardock, Seban, Rem and ram, Mahito, Meh, Dodra, Gilg, Diego, Saiko, Rengoku, Pweeny, Okorun, Mimi, Zion(ASS), Julias, toji, Broly(Z) hakura rin, Diavolo

[digital patrol]

no one did grind her🔥

[ancient valley]

so true

[thorny coral]

hop off zion

[digital patrol]

no nvm i just remembered shiny seiko guy

[mighty gulch]

zion so ass i aint even evolved him to this day

[ancient valley]

they should touch up some old blessings if they ever get the time

[digital patrol]

most forgettable unit😭

[thorny coral]

shiny arc still doesn't have her cosmetic

[lofty ingot]

zion so ass

[digital patrol]

zion, sasori and deidara the useless trio

[ancient valley]

honestly the only unit id want to trade for is shiny Mereoleona

[thorny coral]

#justiceforshinyarc

[waxen oracle]

hi

[crystal apex]

Haruka rin, Julius, zion, brolzi, mechamaru, mahito, rengoku, toji, gilgamesh, ishtar, subaru, okarun, pweeny, momo, seiko, divalo, diego, rem, Emilia, fubuki, karem, ragna, gogeta, esdeath, gazelle, luce, Dave, deidara, sassora, choy, vergil, dante, seban, octopus, rock lee, killer bee, clatakiri, al, dark mage, invincible, slime, arc, merlin, rudie, hebana, kaguya, reimu, sakuya, mori, quetz, hiei, ali, newsman, leo, escanor, priestess, goblin slayer, stark

[waxen oracle]

14k rerolls

[mighty gulch]

sasori and deidara coulda been a great bp man

[crystal apex]

I prob missed some

[ancient valley]

guh
im a f2p so all I can offer is a couple quarters

[waxen oracle]

peashooter

[digital patrol]

their kit suck so bad
idk about cosmetics since I didn't evolve them

[thorny coral]

limited units will only become tradeable when they become unob right

[still jewel]

I would be grateful if you wrote their names fully so it reduces confusion 😭

[crystal apex]

Ye

I'll do it when I get home
Doing this on mobile sucks

[mighty gulch]

idk why they didnt make sasori summon like even the boss sasori does better and he aint even a unit

[still jewel]

ty

[mighty gulch]

lucy would be so high up but they added witch

[crystal apex]

Good
No more homura v2

[digital patrol]

the tournament skins help a little

[thorny coral]

we won't be able to trade evo mats right

[crystal apex]

You will i think

At least limited ones

[austere marsh]

out of 35 units we only have two rare units that's tuff

[still jewel]

@gaunt timber join the AC VC

[wise knot]

Did u mean to ping me

[crystal apex]

Having actual rare units is lame
Cuz they can't be meta or it destroys balance like dio oh in aa

[still jewel]

yes

[lofty ingot]

lag shooter

[still jewel]

Oh why did I ping vanilla

💀

opinions?

[mighty gulch]

im guessing there's probably some skins and ofc units to fill in spots and stuff for trading

[lofty ingot]

trading ishtar bundle skin

[fast quest]

theres a shiny lag shooter?

[crystal apex]

Yes

[lofty ingot]

shiny dmca

[edgy pollen]

theres gonna be such a huge difference between limiteds from an event and bought skins/the first few worldline units

[lofty ingot]

???

[drowsy shadow]

Hi money

[crystal apex]

Haruka Rin
Renguko
Julias
Legendary Super Brolzi
Mechamar
Mohato
Zion
Saiko
Pweeny
Okorun
Mimi
Divalo (Requiem)
Diogo
Gilgamesh
Ishtar
Soburo
Regnaw
Emmie
Foboko
Karem
Rom and Ran
Rogita (Super 4)
Dodara
Sosora
Giyu
Rodock
Seban
Isdead
Dave
Luce
Gazelle
Choy Jong En
Friran
Dawntay
Vigil
Octopus
Lethal Bee
Stone Lee
LagShooter
Clatakiri
Al
Dark Mage
Slime
Rudie
Arc
Marlin
Hebano
Koguro (Unsealed)
Conqueror vs Invulnerable
Reimu
Sakuya
Leo
Newsman
Ali
Quetzalcoatl
Hei
Iscanur (Pride)
Monkey King (Awakened)
Priestess
Goblin Killer
Wolf (Resurrection)

holy flood

[drowsy shadow]

Hru

[crystal apex]

pretty good
wbu

[still jewel]

you're welcome to join AC VC to watch me make it

cause AC VC is so huge the only time I saw it this huge was when I was giving away bundles

[thorny heart]

Let the wiki team do that

[prisma dragon]

fuck no

trading list killed gpo trading

let values do its own thing and dont tamper with them

[crystal apex]

i will take the responsibility of making the value list and totally wont change values to help me profit

[thorny heart]

whats the user of the wiki staff leader

[prisma dragon]

100%

[crystal apex]

idk
salt and top are both organizers

[hazy sinew]

trading believer in the big 25

[thorny heart]

@topaz adder vro, can you make the list

[tight quest]

Its going to happen regardless lol

[hazy sinew]

trading ain't happening

i just saw the sneak peek

[fringe wagon]

Bottom 5 suggestions

[fringe wagon]

Value lists ruin trading

[topaz adder]

we're not making an official value list for the wiki if thats what you mean

[hazy sinew]

yeah we don't need value lists

[prisma dragon]

if devs step up and dont allow lists it won happen

[fringe wagon]

people will blindly follow value lists

[tight quest]

Bro its going to happen regardless of what is say, cc will also make their own so yeah

It happens in every game , it's inevitable

[crystal apex]

if someone trusts a cc value list its on them tbh

[tight quest]

Thats what i been sayin

[fringe wagon]

I know but my point still stands

[thorny heart]

[fringe wagon]

Making an official one would just make it worse

Not many people are going to care about some random cc making a value list

[topaz adder]

imagine trying to guarantee the accuracy of a trading value list

[tight quest]

It will never be accurate

[topaz adder]

correct

[prisma dragon]

100k ppl will follow it thats the problem

[topaz adder]

so no need to make one for the wiki

[naive hearth]

Tldr please

[tight quest]

Av community follow cc like a moth to a flame

[prisma dragon]

thats literally how gpo trading got ruined

a random ytber made a trading bot off a list and got 200k subs

[tight quest]

Watashi ruby

[fringe wagon]

and phoeyu was against it he himself said value lists ruin the concept of trading

[prisma dragon]

yh

[fringe wagon]

And he’s right, people will just get offered a trade and will check a value list instead of deciding by themselves

And if everyone follows the same value list (in gpo case watashi ruby) no one benefits

[prisma dragon]

except the ones that r doing the value lists

cuz in reality the owners can js edit the list to get wtv they want for cheap

[fringe wagon]

Watashi just manipulates his value lists to whatever he feels like

[tight quest]

Shiny diavolo is av equivalent to homura in this case

[prisma dragon]

decent birb victim

[thorny heart]

homura was useful tho

[tight quest]

Yeah cause gpo players never think for themselves

[tight quest]

In terms of value

[prisma dragon]

av players r even worse

[fringe wagon]

I used to trade alot in gpo and i returned after a few months and finding trades was like 3 times as hard

[fringe wagon]

What makes you think av players wont blindly follow a value list

[crystal apex]

Homura like trippled in value due to how insane the timestop was

[prisma dragon]

in my case i literally traded like 2 eyes for cc

a few weeks before i did the trade cc was like 5

[swift vessel]

How much yall think normal diavolo going for

[tight quest]

2 birbs

[prisma dragon]

2 decent birbs at best

[lofty ingot]

pmo

[tight quest]

lol

Peak gpo times

[thorny heart]

so low?

[tight quest]

People only value shiny units in av nothing else

Familiars its only birbs

[thorny heart]

alr

[hazy sinew]

y'all better not highball Miku skin

[worldly tangle]

value lists are so ass epically in gpo its just going to be a war on who can inflate there units there most with fake proofs

[solemn summit]

trading hatsune miku skin + haruka rin for diavolo and your kidneys

[hazy sinew]

i give 20x all bundles but my shop uhh broken u send first and i gift later

[solemn summit]

ngl i’d kill for diavolo

just so i can roll monarch on him and keep him in my inventory

[past sphinx]

Make the list as innacurate as possible so I can trick the people who only use the tierlist into giving me stuff

[copper dawn]

purchaseable rrs only in trading cuz they dont want ppl farming rrs to trade. makes familiars tradeable with their rolled on stats

lets do some pre trading

gonna show my best birbs

[versed burrow]

Icl I saw a lot of "wannabe tl" in this server, most of them are actually shit. So lets see how ass the future tl will be

[copper dawn]

top 3

[sleek canopy]

That range lowering for oryo or what

[copper dawn]

Kaguya

Since she tp don’t matter much

[sleek canopy]

God birbs, DanDaDan units/skins & bundles preparing to carry the economy

[crystal apex]

dandadan units
its just diavolo

[true dawn]

And the crowd left at dandadan units

[sleek canopy]

Okarun'd cosmetic is fire ngl

[spiral pelican]

lowers range by 11.7% 💔

[sleek canopy]

I just want the Miku skin

[spiral pelican]

dandadan units will have 0 value lol
they look mid and are trash

[crystal apex]

hes dummy common
at best worth like 3 summer units

[quartz vine]

Hell no

[spiral pelican]

idk, not summer, prob spring

[crystal apex]

idk all the seasonal units are the same in my eyes

[spiral pelican]

i mean same, they all have 0 value

ill just get a friend to let me borrow his diavolo for the index then give it back lol

[wanton turret]

does he think that everything has a set value

[edgy pollen]

Diavolo's value will plumet so hard the moment everyone who wants him gets him/they lose interest

compared to diooh in AA where he still was absolutely broken a year later

[frank compass]

lb units, miku/haruka, some wl, diavolo

thats rlly it

everything else is damn near fodder

yur

oh he deleted

[thorny heart]

mb twin

[frank compass]

u good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1414910583655895124/1422458265005985824/attachment.gif

[wanton turret]

tuff gif bro

[copper dawn]

My shiny okarun will solo that fraud

[shell surge]

How rare will be shiny seven

[austere marsh]

nah he got way too many copies + bugged

[versed burrow]

Lol did He got duped?

[austere marsh]

for some reason he was also on wl lb

so if u were on wl lb u got him too

[versed burrow]

Damn second lb unit that got duped. Good to know 💼

[summer raptor]

How high miku skin value could be?

[past sphinx]

Pretty high tbh

[crystal apex]

Me and my 16 miku skins support that message

[whole horizon]

who made that vanguard list instead of letting the community decide

[tropic bear]

what dumbasses are voting ❌ cant be real people

[austere marsh]

And do you have a good reason why this is a good reason?

How is letting the value team be able to manipulate the market is a good suggestion?

[naive hearth]

Is there not a value list

I can’t send links

[solemn summit]

liquidity

[prisma dragon]

mfs alr setting up

[thorny coral]

the hell is it

[thorny heart]

That site is trolling, how is haruka rin a 1000 value

And soburo a 1200

[austere marsh]

is this real?

no way someone paid for the domain 😭

[crystal apex]

Its a value list
Not official in any capacity

[craggy rivet]

og

[craggy rivet]

first wl unit + dropped in a super low ccu update + didnt get him from t32

[atomic heron]

There's not gonna be any offical ones, but there will be community ones soo

[broken saddle]

NOP

E

[tight quest]

Alr

[queen osprey]

Yo I already have one

^

[waxen oracle]

💩

no one in hell is trading base diavolo for shiny gogeta 💩 💩

where did you find it

"official"

[lyric dawn]

shiny broly aint gonna be worth shit with the dupes gang, or atleast not that high

[queen osprey]

I created it

[queen osprey]

most dupes got deleted and its still rarest thing in game besides perfect birb

[lyric dawn]

the shiny one maybe, the regular one prob not

[queen osprey]

Don't just hate give criticism because I am open to all feedbacks and can make changes @digital patrol @solemn summit

[queen osprey]

regular one could maybe move down to 2k, but the reality is there wont be many in trade and its the first lb unit so its value gonna be very high

[thorny coral]

subaru,esdeath and roy being that high is crazy lol

[waxen oracle]

subaru was duped

[spiral pelican]

F tier list holy

any non official lists are just prone to be exploited to benefit the owners of that list

[queen osprey]

its literally very much not to my benefit but okay, and its a whole team not just me

Like I just said, give me criticism not hate

[queen osprey]

where should they be instead?

[spiral pelican]

its a "whole teams" benefit then lol, still prone to being exploited

[waxen oracle]

octopus higher than a bugged lb

like what is this

[spiral pelican]

yea im not quite sure why bugged things are even that high, there are so many of them

[waxen oracle]

i meam octopus who was from glitch abused lb higher than diavolo

[queen osprey]

huh?

[waxen oracle]

.

shiny subaru no

he was duped

[queen osprey]

There are a lot of diavolos, octopus was not heavy duped

[waxen oracle]

shiny seiko almost as high as diavolo

[spiral pelican]

also this is just wrong for choi entirely...
did NOT take 30 minutes to beat

[waxen oracle]

shiny choy

like 😭

[spiral pelican]

thats 1.5% then, not 1
and it should be a + not an =

[queen osprey]

mb bro lemme just put diavolo above shiny subaru

[waxen oracle]

fair

but still shiny subaru and octopus

[spiral pelican]

and also its not 30 minutes either lol

[waxen oracle]

octopus is such a anti flex unit

look i abused lb

[queen osprey]

what should it be then?

[spiral pelican]

pretty sure the clears are 15 mins or so, choi was a 1.5% chance, shiny is a 1.5% chance, so "15 mins + 1.5% (drop chance) + 1.5% (shiny)"

[queen osprey]

k thank you for letting me know that the clears are 1.5% chance

[bright flame]

Hey, just letting you know that posts about your own value list or plans to make it a site can be seen as self-promotion. Please keep discussion away from this

[queen osprey]

can u show me?

[queen osprey]

alr mb

Ill shut up

[dry veldt]

Lets chill trading isnt even out yet

[spiral pelican]

some other dude already got banned for trying to advertise, dont be the part 2 lol

[thorny coral]

wait, the guy who asked for mods got banned?

[spiral pelican]

let me see if i can find it rq

cannot, channel mostlikely got locked and closed :/

[atomic heron]

Perfect birds prob gonna wb more but alr

This is why no offical tier list lel

[austere marsh]

The same can be done with a official one

What’s your point? Happened to GPo, AA, and BGS

[austere marsh]

Okay but he has less than 100 owners because of banned copies

His value will be incredibly high but low demand because who tf wants an octopus with a shitty cosmetic?

[waxen oracle]

who wants a unit that the only way to get was to bug abuse and spend entire days of breaking the game

THE aizen bug

[austere marsh]

That’s why I said the demand and will be extremely low? So you not know what demand is

[waxen oracle]

i know

i work at logistics

no need to so agressive

[lyric dawn]

he isnt wrong, when nobody or only a few selected are looking for the unit that tends to send value down

duh

shiny versions will probably be unaffected by this tho

[spiral pelican]

Not if it's made by people who don't actually play the game, and thus have nothing to gain by doing so

[south plover]

this list is so wrong

pbag never was bellow jfit, same for elo hammer and elo egg

flowers bellow elo egg and hammer LOL

[tight quest]

Idk i just found a random one on tierlist maker

[austere marsh]

Are you serious

Are you literally telling me assuming av gets their own value team none of them won’t try to manipulate the market in any sort of ways?

[spiral pelican]

If it's made up of higher up staff that don't actually play, yes

[austere marsh]

There's a lot you can benefit from doing that especially if you need to do it so you can hoard xx unit/itsm/product which is a common thing in every single trading game thus that why you’ll make it any set of value/demand u want

[spiral pelican]

You are missing the key point: they don't play

[austere marsh]

Okay, tell me one game that have trading and has never gotten their market manipulated by the value team itself.

Do you know any? Or are you just spitting out bullshit

[austere marsh]

And what’s your definition of a higher up staff?

Even Roblox trading has a bunch of market manipulations if you know what rolimons is

[spiral pelican]

Of this server obviously

Someone who doesn't play and is trusted

And has been here for a reasonable amount of time

[austere marsh]

Um dude how many mods do you know actually play av?

Or plans to trade and if they’re even fit to become a part of the value team

See I think you don’t trade at all or never did

[spiral pelican]

Infinitely better than having a community made one

[hoary bone]

no they should not

I mean what you could've suggested is add an exists thingy like

for pyseph to add amount of exists a unit has

[south plover]

there no one

exactlyno one that wont manipulate the trade list

[atomic heron]

• like

90% of "trading" is how YOU

value something

not how others value it

[south plover]

GPO incident

[atomic heron]

cuz i could think a certain unit is sick asf, and others are just like ew

[atomic heron]

whysync incident

[south plover]

gpo old trading

was kinda good, ngl it was a good example for av

you knew item X> Item Y but you could get item Z for Item Y and then trade Item Z for item X

all dependant on demand, the values were near each other

[atomic heron]

as long as its not AD trading i give zero fucks

lmao

[austere marsh]

That would just ruin everything

If we knew the total amount of copies

[spiral pelican]

How would that ruin literally anything lol

It would give a direct quantity value to the things

[austere marsh]

not worth explaining it to you (I highly recommended to not argue with people who has 0 experience in trading)

[hoary bone]

no clue what u on

it was perfectly fine for psx and ps99 with the serials n exists

[broken saddle]

what about ishtar skin

[spiral pelican]

My guy is just assuming i have 0 experience with trading when the only trading he has experience with is super unhealthy and toxic and has no clue what trading I've done 💔

[neon gust]

psx?

[austere marsh]

the two games that were both controlled by viet markets?

can't be inaccurate 😂

[ebon vault]

whats with you and viets bro 😭

[wanton turret]

99% hes filipino

[austere marsh]

nothing i just don't know why people prefer to have serial numbers given out to the public like that, it's just giving a simple "fu** you** message to traders because people will just lowball for units now that they got a excuse to say "too many owners"

definitely matters a LOT if we get homuru 2.0 where you can get her mad cheap if they were to look at the total amount of copies n the owner got no choice but to accept now the lowball fofer bc they know that’s the excuse they’ll face per new trader

[eternal magnet]

The funny part is the tier list will always be created and people will check it anyways since they cant decide whats best for them to make profit, cant wait to see "ur value is lower than mine-". Anime Trade Vanguards

[ebon vault]

"add smalls" yba all over again

[eternal magnet]

"nty" all over again

[hallow bone]

in roblox it's all about who has the most valueable item and not what will benefit them the most 🥹

[eternal magnet]

its gpo marine cap all over again

[versed burrow]

Subaru got duped tho. Many ppl love forgetting that😭. We need one actual good tl

Oh I See we aint allowed to discuss about tl

[ember notch]

wait

Not yet, we can't lowball when trading released

If they know the value how can we lowball😢

[hoary bone]

Roblox market is controlled by viet

[ember notch]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960