STOP doing that on Vfamiliar

[storm moss]

Please stop forcing player to play everyday 30 min to get vfamiliar, i think most of people prefer to do very hard quest than daily quest, and right now, most of the people don't want to play the game because all the content are finished, so the daily vfamiliar quest a forcing us to play 30 min. Doing arder quest like evo some unit and some order harder quest will make quest more fun ( not doing everytime time the same thing ) and maybe the same time of playing but more fun and more content, just stop doing daily quest to forcing player to join, even if there is no content

[noble patio]

Please ensure that your suggestion follows the Suggestion Rules in #1351363086409531392,

[lunar tinsel]

Complains on how you don't like the current quests for vfs
Doesn't elaborate on what the changes should be >
peak mindset!

[storm moss]

I said what changes should be, harder quest like evo unit, sacrifice unit or anything like that but not Daily Boring quest

[kind canopy]

'forcing' 🤓

[lunar tinsel]

one of the previous suggestion had 300 stars which was a suggestion about changing 25 stages in total quest into clear x stages using y1 unit, they went and proceed with that suggestion and did it for obito's vf, look what happened? people didnt like it either

so atp i'm not sure what the community actually wants because the majority of the community just prefer the 25 stages alone since apparently they made it worse than before

this community can't make up their mind

[lethal isle]

The community is a hivemind

[lunar tinsel]

no matter what they do even if they follow suggestions it's never enough wouldnt blame the developers if they decide to ignore the community as it leads to better decisions being made that way

[lethal isle]

Tbf I really liked the obito familiar or the aizen skin quest

[olive salmon]

Those suggestion is about make the quest line being unique in someway instead of making it a slop grind

The Oddysey grind quest and Legend stage grind quest almost have no different beside we can’t use different unit

The suggestor don’t want slop grind and they still adding slop grind but worst, what’s your point?

[storm moss]

Thats True ??? If we miss that we lost rrs

[lunar tinsel]

atp what are you saying?
how do you make a quest line Unique in a way it's not complicated to the average av players? why u think we’re blacklisted from ever having hard content? again av players refuses to use their brain

[olive salmon]

What am I expecting from Mush when he open his mouth….

[olive salmon]

Did you ever read suggestion about VF?

[storm moss]

The Legend stage and the 25 Odysseys are identical, doing the same thing for 30 minutes every day. You don't have to be so unpleasant.

[lunar tinsel]

the concept may look good on paper but when being executed, it'll never be successful because you don't know who your target audience is, unique, and this isnt going to work in av's community

[lunar tinsel]

so what were they supposed to do?

[olive salmon]

Now that’s a good point

[weary tusk]

does anyone else notice how every suggestion right now is just saying "vanguard familiar slop sucks"

[olive salmon]

Because it is?

[lunar tinsel]

@storm moss since ur so smart tell us what were they supposed to do

[olive salmon]

He’s typing

[storm moss]

If you're just here to say thing like that I don't need to answer you

[lunar tinsel]

it's the truth and you know why? you're doing it right now

[storm moss]

What u say it's right thanks

[lunar tinsel]

they changed it because of a suggesiton and it's not enough and what is your solution supposed to do?

and the cycle repeats over n over again

[olive salmon]

Once again, did you ever read VF suggestion?

[kind canopy]

I don't even do them

[lunar tinsel]

there's no stop to situation never will

[storm moss]

Fr

[kind canopy]

rrs were never forced

u can't be tellin me u do every single rr option in the game

it was never forced

[olive salmon]

It’s either gain Takedown, kill certain boss, hell! Maybe just stage clear but not for 30 min

They have ways to do it

The one actually required you to use the unit

And not tedious

[lunar tinsel]

kill a certain boss is arguably worse than 25 stages

[storm moss]

Bro please read ly suggestion, if u ask this questions that mean u even don't read my suggestion

[olive salmon]

Take Broly’s quest line as an example

[lunar tinsel]

especially when ur asking us to use the vf's unit to kill the boss in the first place

[olive salmon]

You can’t tell me you gonna struggle when fight with Naruto’s boss using Obito

[storm moss]

"Since ur so smart"🤓 just go read the suggestion

[olive salmon]

That’s another lv of skill issue

[lunar tinsel]

nah all of this don't mean anything u just listed me three things that don't do shit
gain takedowns? it's just afk
kill certain bosses? same thing as clearing stages, but need to do it with the unit and takes more time overall since the unit may need the final hit

[storm moss]

You maybe but money on the game, but for f2p that necessary

[storm moss]

But this quest have some rrs, not like other

[storm moss]

THANKS

[storm moss]

That's a perfect example

[lunar tinsel]

i'm out lwk if ur going be against vfs then at least find better solutions to find something we all can like instead of finding solutions that will just create this cycle again like it did before

[olive salmon]

Kill certain boss at least relate to the unit and not doing like 5 stage clear and lemme use my brain

[storm moss]

But they don't understand it 😂

[olive salmon]

I agree with grind takedown tho

[storm moss]

So clearing same stage every time is not afk ??? You are a steal brainrot player right ?

[olive salmon]

You don’t got his point, he mean it not changing anything since it still afk

[storm moss]

Evo the unit, doing takesdown with, kill a special boss ( like itachi for obito questiline) sacrifice 3 obito or something else, and more quest to make it harder

[storm moss]

Oh sorry im not rly good in english mb, so if he said clearing stage it's afk, why he don't want what we are saying ??

[olive salmon]

His entire idea is we can’t find an unique way to change these questline because community will unsatisfied regardless

He does take Obito’s quest line as an example even tho it’s not a good one

[storm moss]

They rly don't change alot , 30min grind, same thing

They juste forcing us to use just obito

[olive salmon]

Yes

That’s why I said it’s not a good example

Now lemme thinking how to do with these quest line

[storm moss]

But with a good thing where most of the ppl want it it's better, all of ppl i seen talking about that is because of the "daily quest " I think thats the biggest problem because all ppl are talking about that, and after there is the thing thats a boring quest and we need to repeat it

[storm moss]

Yeah I see it

[storm moss]

That's need to be very hard, like 125 stages

[olive salmon]

No bro…

We can’t fix slop grind with worst slop grind but longer

[storm moss]

Nooooo sorry i dont mean that

I mean, doing 125 match takes a lot of effort.

So

We need to do good quest who require same effort

[olive salmon]

Tbf, it’s still just afk, I want to thought about like kill certain boss which is same as Toji quest

And more adding to it

[storm moss]

Oh yeah

But not daily quest, and boring quest

[olive salmon]

Only issue would be dev don’t want us to finish the quest within one day, they need to keep up CCU which is why VF is a thing

[storm moss]

Like doing a lot of quest thats require a lot of effort, like broly quest, not sjw's because its to hard

[olive salmon]

Vsjw quest is not even hard, it’s just a challenge between you and your sanity

[storm moss]

Sorry for that, I did a mistakes 😭

[storm moss]

When I say hard, I mean doing 50 ant king manually is horrible

[olive salmon]

Horrible is not even enough to describe it

[olive salmon]

1. Boss Hunt – Defeat a specific boss using this unit.
2. Grind kill or damage – Deal a set amount of damage or score a number of kills with this unit to show mastery.
3. The Sacrifice – The final act of the quest line
4. Trial Mode – Clear a challenging mode (like Rift, Boss Rush, or Dungeon) while using this unit.
5. Stage Clear – Beat certain maps or stages. The requirement doesn’t need to be as high as current quests to keep it accessible.
6. Gaining Experience – Earn experience through battles or feeding foods to the unit (this would be future idea since idk if this fit)
7. Ascension - as the name, doesn’t sound really good but I need something to relate to unit, mostly I want something somewhat look like Unit Achievement

We ofc would have many idea to make up with it but this is my thought for now

[wintry musk]

please no bro

i do not want to spend forever doing something hard

[manic valley]

Yeah we were never forced but we are forced in like psychological way, it's up to the player if they don't wanna do it or they will missed on a lot of rerolls😭

It's like manipulation yk..

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[lunar tinsel]

They changed it because of a suggestion

It's bound to happen again, question is, will it be enough to stop it for good? Or will it continue the cycle

yeah cus the suggestion to change it had 300 stars

And y’all the same people begging them to look at suggestions

You’re not making any sense

So if it’s meant to be for ccu why would they not try to change it? All it takes is one change to get the ccu back up running

pls use your brain

You said it yourself, all it takes is one good change to get the ccu back up running listen to the criticism feedbacks around the pre changes and current ones

They shouldn’t stop doing changes because you think it’s in a perfect state

🤔

a vf is absolutely bringing back up ccu it depends which unit they do it for

[midnight coral]

They should make it similar to Unit achievements. Each achievement gives 20 coins, 9 achievements. Still 180 rerolls and at the end you get the familiar.

[lunar tinsel]

I think that’s just greed fr

[limpid maple]

Just all vfamiliar quest need to be win 25 stage that is very ez

[lunar tinsel]

because ur farming for familiar not rerolls and ur making the progress way longer that way

[midnight coral]

It's the same as how it is now just better

[midnight coral]

Most players farm the rerolls after they get familiar

[lunar tinsel]

saying this when whatever statement ur saying don’t make any sense cus wdym they shouldn’t try change vf? It’s not in the perfect state either and you’re telling them to stop that?

😂 😂

[midnight coral]

Elite ragebait

[lunar tinsel]

So what are you trying to imply here then? because vf can bring back up ccu when done right so why would they try stop doing it?

[lunar tinsel]

Calling it ragebait when your solution is worse that’s crazy

how is changing it from 25 stages to a entire unit achievements any better?

if you ask me that’s literally greed and requires more effort being out in when you just want the familiar and don’t care about anything else

[midnight coral]

Eliminates the 25 day slop and makes you actually play the game instead of sitting there placing an Escanor

[midnight coral]

It should require more effort, these vfamiliars make the units busted

[lunar tinsel]

This is what they did for obito’s vf and people are still complaining
Also you’re not meant to just get the item in a couple hour?

[midnight coral]

Obitos was poorly done and it wouldn't take a couple hours

People that did the original unit achievements in a couple hours need to go outside

[lunar tinsel]

better than just getting the vf in 2h if it went unit achievements way

[midnight coral]

If not unit achievements then what

Brainstorm better suggestions then

[lunar tinsel]

Leave it the way it is?

Before they change it due to y’all stupid ass suggestions and they manage to made it worse than before

[midnight coral]

Are we fr

It's ass right now

[wintry musk]

more rewards no?

[midnight coral]

Lowkey might be idk

Prolly could change it to 6 achievements

Or 5 for an even 100

Or just lower the coins from each achievements

[clever bone]

But but... Valentine and Saber, Saber Alternate familiar..

[acoustic geyser]

or or or hear me out on this one

make vfamiliar quests unit achievements but easier (i turned this into a suggestion btw #1427628214699819108

[acoustic geyser]

evolve unit, defeat bosses using that unit, defeat stages, etc

just one part per day

like today can be evolve certain unit, tmrw is defeat X amount of bosses, etc

[clever bone]

I still want rr

[elder zenith]

Final quest evo 10 vsjw

[acoustic geyser]

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[mild vine]

the devs gonna say a simple no

its just how it is and i can see why cuz they need some ccu if it wasnt for the events the game wouldve hit 10k already