sneak guards

[dire laurel]

u dont need sneaks

a trailer is gonna drop anyways

[errant swan]

saved up all these rerolls just don't want them to sell the bag

[errant swan]

trailer drops are always aweosme

[dire laurel]

u wont know if a unit is good from a sneak btw

i dont know why u flexing

[errant swan]

idc if a unit is good

[dire laurel]

😭😭

[errant swan]

if they cool

im getting monarch

[dire laurel]

can i see ur monarchs?

[errant swan]

sure

[dire laurel]

lets compare the cool to meta ratio

[errant swan]

starrk i got release day

same w tengen n obito

aizen just abt a month ago

ragna was an accident

and guts cause hes the gaot

[dire laurel]

rip

[errant swan]

nvm i lied

i got aizen during

[void ivy]

wtf is this logic

[errant swan]

7.5

[void ivy]

could be said for the all of the previous updates

[dire laurel]

thats what i was saying

[errant swan]

they be sneaking shi for previous updates

[void ivy]

no they werent

[errant swan]

yes they were

[void ivy]

we only had two sneak peaks for broly's update

the vegeta cutscene thing and that's it

look how the update turned out to be

you could look at dbz

with vegito n dmc brothers

so many sneak peaks and it end up being trash

[errant swan]

dbz update was shit

[void ivy]

yes and it had a lot of sneak peak being posted

evne got a early access at buu, n vegito

[errant swan]

not tryna wait a month for some bullshit I can do in an evening

😔

i wish they’d lock op units behind a big grind again

[glad sequoia]

they listened check sub announcements

[errant swan]

that’s just units bro

only 14 units

they counting evo + unevo

[weak merlin]

how do yk

theyve never done that before

[errant swan]

they already confirmed 14 units

[glad sequoia]

they might of added some more

[weak merlin]

yeah but theyve never counted unevo before

i mean i dont see why like 5-6 extra units would take more time

i mean take 2-3 extra weeks*

[radiant summit]

Bro read please

[weak merlin]

that doesnt even make sense

then there'd be 28 units

theres not even 28

[radiant summit]

Remodeles+ new units

[mellow hull]

you do know some units

can get NO evo's

right?

[radiant summit]

He doesn’t know how to read

It literally says it in sub announcements

Under the ss

[weak merlin]

thats literally only been the case for vanguards and tournament units

[radiant summit]

Can u read?

[mellow hull]

Man oh man! Its surely not ANNIVERSARY, somekind of EVENT! surely there wouldnt be somekind of VANGUARD RARITY UNIT obtained via SAID EVENT

[weak merlin]

they said there isnt a vanguard this upd

we're geniuses

[mellow hull]

hold on let me add some red circles so your 2 braincells can understand

[weak merlin]

there surely isnt SOMEKIND of vanguard rarity unit because there ISNT a vanguard unit

[mellow hull]

You do know that when i say somekind

it could be secret/limited rarity

right?

[weak merlin]

why would they make dio limited

[mellow hull]

Dawg

[radiant summit]

Dio confirmed secret

[mellow hull]

you are infact as stupid as i thought

[radiant summit]

14 units In upd

[mellow hull]

They are saying that because its ANOTHER REASON WHY the update is being delayed

not that theres 27 MODELS

[weak merlin]

also im pretty sure the only limited units to come from .0 updates are bp units

and dio oh is not going to be a bp unit

[radiant summit]

14 new units

[mellow hull]

Holy troglodite

[radiant summit]

13 remodels

There aren’t 27 devs

[mellow hull]

Cmon man

i expected you to use your brain

[weak merlin]

and ishtar

[radiant summit]

14 units+ 13 remodels

[mellow hull]

from what we know theres like 6 units that were chosen by the dev team

(go look at the doc for the stage a while ago)

[void ivy]

what does that have to do with the topic?

[weak merlin]

how many devs even art there

[radiant summit]

Pretty sure 14 is confirmed

[mellow hull]

We dont even know

[mellow hull]

Theres 14 units confirmed

[void ivy]

**clay, kazi and i do vfx
emmie / callamino do art (icons / faces / concept art)
kazi, py, batu, lynn and shin do backend
yuruzuu does frontend (ui, QoL)
thien/fahan are our modelers who do nearly all of the unit models, rest are comm'd out
auric does maps
valk does balancing, unit design, unit movesets, unit passives, update content, events, bundles, exc
**

[mellow hull]

but that doesnt mean its 14 ANNIVERSARY units

[weak merlin]

i was just asying it doesnt make sense for dio to be a limited unit

[weak merlin]

auric doesnt count tho

[void ivy]

no he don't

he gets to create his own map

[radiant summit]

Auric picked map

[weak merlin]

ya

[void ivy]

yeah so what r u implying

[weak merlin]

AND you

w sneak in

[void ivy]

u still think they're adding 27 characters

[weak merlin]

[radiant summit]

Bro how many remodels are they doing count them

[weak merlin]

idk i dont see why they'd count evos though

[lapis wedge]

We wouldnt exist if it wasnt for mushy ❤️‍🩹

W

[void ivy]

it's pretty odd of them to include evos

made the entire situation confusing

bc people think they're adding 27 units when it's 14

[weak merlin]

maybe they just listed models

remodels**

[void ivy]

yeah they are

[remote mica]

whats listed is unevos and evos

[void ivy]

its including remodels n evo

[remote mica]

confirmed by pyseph

its 14 evos and 13 pre-evos

[void ivy]

so remodels

and unevo

evo
*

so what about the dmca units if it was unevos n evos

plus the bp units?

[remote mica]

guys we knew it was 14 when it was the stage, why would they add 13 more units when they were already heavily delayed + when they had to remodel

🥀

[weak merlin]

ya

[violet edge]

Which bp unit got dmca?

[remote mica]

he said something different like an hour later

[void ivy]

none

[remote mica]

gg

[void ivy]

we just including it

[violet edge]

Wait mb

[weak merlin]

13 remodels

for 1 update is lowkey crazy tho

[violet edge]

Are the 2 uma skins included in the 27?

[weak merlin]

how many things got dmcaed

jjk so thats like

7?

9?

[violet edge]

Frieren aswell

[weak merlin]

+fern frieren and umasamune

so thats 14

ok

wait

what

its 15 remodels

[void ivy]

so it is including remodels @remote mica

smh

it's not uenvos n evos

because then the math isnt mathing

[weak merlin]

gojo, todo, toji, jogo, choso, itadori, sukuna, inumaki, nobara, frieren, and the 3 skins

and mechamar and mahito

mechamaru

[violet edge]

So 6 new units if we count their evo aswell

[weak merlin]

prob excluded inumaki and nobara

ok

[weak merlin]

so it makes sense

its 13 remodels and then i guess they just didnt include inumaki and nobara

but thats assuming all 14 characters get an evo

[silk dune]

the only units that dont require evolutions are vanguards

[void ivy]

wl units too

some of them don't have a evo

also that one unit is probably dio oh

confirmed to be a secret

and there's nothing to evo him into

[weak merlin]

he could be like

do we know what animes auric likes

[void ivy]

wait

he gave out a hint

[weak merlin]

maybe he does something with jojo if he likes jojo?

idk

[lapis wedge]

Sand village old map

Oh the days

[silk dune]

old planet namek map

thatd be true peak

[lunar forum]

the original aot map

[weak merlin]

i dont think theyre just gonna reuse a map though

[silk dune]

yeah

[lunar forum]

the one they showcase units in

[void ivy]

they did it with portals

[silk dune]

he said new map

[void ivy]

nothing wrong with reusing maps

[weak merlin]

thats different

its a .0 update we're getting a new story map

cant just be a reused map

unless they juts dont wanna ig

[lapis wedge]

Im guessing it could be the old lobby as a stage

[weak merlin]

like how astdx uses the map of its lobby

?

for stages

[lapis wedge]

Mhm

[weak merlin]

thatd be cool

idk how thatd relate to

like

the food item

and the legend stage

and then the unit u get from the legend stage

but

[minor fiber]

yea idk how 9.0 is going to work

[weak merlin]

cuz if its not themed

then like

[silk dune]

the theme is "random bullshit go"

[weak merlin]

the true astdx way

[minor fiber]

theres hollow knight dude, fate, dio oh

like

[silk dune]

and dio over heaven couldve been natsuki from ddlc, it couldve been rukia, it couldve been wally west, it couldve been fucking anything 😭

[minor fiber]

i dont see the vision (my glasses are foggy ill let them cook)

[weak merlin]

there was a less than 0 chance of natsuki coming close to winning

[silk dune]

i know

[weak merlin]

im fine with it it just seems like theyre gonna REALLY have to use creativity

their creativity*

[minor fiber]

yea idk dio oh was the first character post and people voted only dio

[weak merlin]

to find a way to work around the themeless thing

[minor fiber]

nothing u can do

[void ivy]

wdym

just add capsules then

if ur worried how we will obtain them

[minor fiber]

cuz i think this isnt the autumn/halloween banner right

thats next update

[weak merlin]

we dont want fuck ass seasonal banners bro

[minor fiber]

so ig capsules makes sense

[weak merlin]

capsules are just seasonal banners reskinned

[fair tiger]

capsules are better

and more fun

[silk dune]

aa nostalgia merchants over here 💀

[fair tiger]

like aa

bru

[silk dune]

LOL

[weak merlin]

LMAO

[minor fiber]

didnt winter event have banner and capsule

am i tripping

aa

[weak merlin]

no

oh

yes

[minor fiber]

eh ill take anything atp

im getting bored of doing 25 stages

[void ivy]

i don't think a banner fits 9.0 either

so capsules the best way to do this

14 units to cycle around

[patent flame]

was the most pointless thing ever

[silk dune]

pull an ALS and do both

[minor fiber]

this

[weak merlin]

why would they do a banner

[minor fiber]

the odds on that capsule tho

[weak merlin]

i assume theyre just adding them to the standard

[void ivy]

bad idea bru

[minor fiber]

14 units to standard banner is absurd

[weak merlin]

maybe a special banner just for 9,0

[void ivy]

even if they get their own seasonal banner still too much

this isnt ur typical 4 units

[weak merlin]

where gem summons are reduced and you can only get the new units

[void ivy]

its 14 to cycle

[thorny swan]

Ani banner with 6 units instead of 5 😱

[minor fiber]

gotta wait 3 days and 3 nights for the unit u want to cycle

[weak merlin]

2 are from battle pass

1 atleast from story/legend

[silk dune]

its probably a portal like stage with capsules or currency to an event shop

[weak merlin]

i wouldnt be surprised if they make 1 of the units a daily reward

[silk dune]

or both i guess

[silk dune]

i will lose my mind

[errant swan]

they probably won’t do a legend stage unit, most likely that’ll just be reserved for quest, and maybe a unit similar to gilgamesh obtainment

[silk dune]

if they all are obtained

by events

I WILL lose it

and i will crash out

[weak merlin]

11 to cycle doesnt even seem that bad if they make a special banner for them for the duration of 9.0

and they reduce the gems for a summon

[silk dune]

it would be fine if you could select the units

[errant swan]

Did they even confirm if anni was an event update

[silk dune]

its probably gonna be similar to one

its not gonna be like a boss rush or rift or raid or anything

[weak merlin]

maybe similar but probably not

[errant swan]

hopefully they don’t shove 7 units in regular banner😭

[violet edge]

Nah bro, they took forever to open

[weak merlin]

i wouldnt be surprised if its a boss rush

could have brandon as one of the bosses

and all the devs go onto the path

and then you have to defeat them

😭

honestly a final boss rush where its every single boss rush combined into 30 waves and they go through every map currently created

that'd be pretty cool

[silk dune]

if they work like ALS capsules no one would complain

where you can open over 100

if it was like AA

we staying at 40k ccu

[weak merlin]

every 5 waves you switch to the next map

and before u switch theres just mini bosses

cuz it makes u reflect on av's history

is this feasible 🥺

[void ivy]

isnt this a good thing?

if you can obtain the units from the event alone

[minor fiber]

pls dont be like the leo quest

[tepid arch]

because with lower ccu less money

with less money smaller dev team

with smaller dev team slower updates

[dire laurel]

sneaks dont affect ccu

[weak merlin]

they probably do by a little

[silk dune]

a trailer would effect the ccu

[dire laurel]

we get trailers every upd

sneaks dont affect anything really

[true cargo]

Trailers only affect CCU if they have release date

[dire laurel]

maybe a little but not much

[true cargo]

Sneaks don't for the most part

It builds hype but not ccu

[dire laurel]

they talking about sneaks here tho

so trailers dont matter to them apparently

[true cargo]

A trailer is a type of sneak to be fair

It's a sneak with a release date

[dire laurel]

a trailer and a sneak are 2 different things

[true cargo]

I mean think about it

[dire laurel]

its a way bigger sneak

[true cargo]

A trailer is just a bunch of sneaks with a release date

It's still technically a sneak

[dire laurel]

yeah so we basically do get sneaks

that defeats the purpose of this thread

😭

[true cargo]

Oh absolutely, I gave this thread a

[dire laurel]

🤣🤣

[true cargo]

We already get sneaks, no reason to beg for more, it's just being greedy

Sneaks won't make the update come out sooner

Nor make the wait easier

[radiant summit]

U give every a

[dire laurel]

if u knew everything about the upd thats coming it wouldnt wanna make u play it more

[true cargo]

Nah only bad or meaningless suggestions

[dire laurel]

they just asking for upd sooner but coping

[true cargo]

Exactly lol

[silk dune]

no shit. but we've seen instances where vanguards ccu kept going up and up during the summer event after they dropped the trailer for berserk

[weak merlin]

we havent really gotten many

[true cargo]

A few sneaks is good and all, but too much ruins hype

[radiant summit]

U have to of mine wit 200+ stars and only bumps it 😭

[true cargo]

Trailers increase CCU, not regular sneaks

[silk dune]

thats what im saying..

[true cargo]

Cuz it's bad

[dire laurel]

whats his

[weak merlin]

okay they didnt do the sneaks well enough

[true cargo]

The release date is what increases CCU, not the sneaks itself (as long as the content is what people want at least)

[radiant summit]

Adding all starter cards to beginning on match is bad?

[tepid arch]

I would agree but there’s no evidence because it’s never happened before

[weak merlin]

if they wanna build hype then they should give us a little stuff to speculate on

[tepid arch]

what people ask for is hype building

[true cargo]

Idk there are a lot of slop suggestions I don't remember them all

[dire laurel]

then theres no evidence it didnt happen

[weak merlin]

like just blurring the passive completely is a little crazy

[tepid arch]

.but never happens so we don’t know what would actually happen

[radiant summit]

Don’t need sneaks we need communication

[weak merlin]

atleast give us stuff to theory craft on

[true cargo]

THAT one? I don't even remember it, but yea that's slop

[dire laurel]

is mine peak

ill bump it rq

[true cargo]

Which one is it

[tepid arch]

there evidence of ccu being low as shit with absence of communication from devs sneaks, lack of hype etc

[weak merlin]

literally the best qol for grinding lfelt and baiken ever

[tepid arch]

not sure why you feel the need to lie

[dire laurel]

lying is crazy

im saying sneaks dont affect ccu

[tepid arch]

The lying situation is crazy

[dire laurel]

trailers do

[true cargo]

Yea adding fam shards to shops isn't a bad idea with current odyssey, but for the rework that is going to happen I don't think it'd be good to add them to shops rn

[tepid arch]

yeah and I said there’s no proof bc we have never seen them try to build or maintain hype for an update

people have been asking for them to to that to see what happens to the ccu

but it has never happened yet

[weak merlin]

they better have reworked odyssey this upd

[dire laurel]

its low priority isnt it

[tepid arch]

*delete

[true cargo]

No clue, seems like they haven't even decided if they want to add it or not yet

[weak merlin]

they said on 6.0 they’d start reworking their gamemodes after a bit

and its been quite a bit

sooo

[dire laurel]

with the dmca i doubt its coming soon

they remodelling everything

[weak merlin]

😡😡😡

🖕🖕🖕

😡😡😡

[true cargo]

Talked with nether earlier and they haven't even reworked anything about odyssey yet so it's safe to say it won't be this upd at the least

[radiant summit]

Events are just a way better of getting em

[dire laurel]

majority of people need the rrs on events

not everyone has 10 monarchs already

[true cargo]

People do tend to buy rrs much more often than phoenix shards for these events

[radiant summit]

It’s still a way easier way

Rifts take hours

[weak merlin]

much is an overestimation

[true cargo]

Especially since we know there will be 27 new units next upd

[fair tiger]

noone cares about oddsey

[radiant summit]

Events 25 min

[dire laurel]

adding it to shops is still a good suggestion

[weak merlin]

its atleast 30/70

[true cargo]

That's much my man

[dire laurel]

[weak merlin]

its 14 and 13 remodels

[radiant summit]

14 new units

[true cargo]

40% more people constitutes a "much"

[weak merlin]

atleast its probably closer to 40/60

[dire laurel]

dude nobodys complaining about events

were saying ppl tend to buy the rrs from events more often

[true cargo]

Sneaks says otherwise

[radiant summit]

I’m saying events take way less time

[dire laurel]

so adding it to shops would make it easier to get

[weak merlin]

its 14 and 13 remodels

[dire laurel]

that doesent mean they cant add it to rift shop

[radiant summit]

No they could

[weak merlin]

i counted all jjk models and frieren

and pyseph said it themself

[dire laurel]

would just make them easier to obtain since odyssey is shit

[true cargo]

They never said that that list included remodels, it very well could just be units and evos with remodels being a mention of why the update is taking longer

[weak merlin]

bro

i counted the remodels

[true cargo]

I doubt they'd add fam shards to shops until they decide if they want to remake odyssey or not

[weak merlin]

its 14+13 remodels

[true cargo]

If they do want to remake it, they won't add it to shops

[radiant summit]

Lemme find ss rq

[dire laurel]

there obviously gonna remake it but not for another few months lmao

im not tryna wait that long tbh

[weak merlin]

hey its me

ya

[radiant summit]

😭

[true cargo]

Saw it the first time you sent, was on a timeout for saying the "cover up bricks" word

They really need to make a list of all the banned words

So annoying

It wasn't banned like 2 days ago

[weak merlin]

what is the cover up bricks word

[true cargo]

But that proved literally nothing, it's a screenshot that predates the new information

[fair tiger]

cover up bricks

[radiant summit]

🫩

[weak merlin]

thats the first time ive ever heard that lmao

[radiant summit]

It’s literally the owner bru

[true cargo]

This stupid automod

There are more than 13 things that have no models

So it's irrational to say that the list of 27 is the 14 units and remodels

[weak merlin]

ignore inumaki and nobara they dont deserve to be mentioned

[tepid arch]

Number 1 odyssey fan

[true cargo]

"Ignore 2 things that prove me wrong"

Ok dude

[weak merlin]

theyre literally irrelevant tbh i dont think theyd be put on the update log

[true cargo]

Obviously the 27 is referencing something else

[tepid arch]

That’s what I’m saying

[true cargo]

More than anything that list would have evos and non evos

[tepid arch]

it doesn’t matter if I’m wrong if I ignore what everyone else says

I’m then right

[true cargo]

I would have believed that at least

1 unit that doesn't evo

13 units that do

[tepid arch]

Do farms evo?

[true cargo]

2 of the new units are bp units

[weak merlin]

dont we get new tournament units every .0

[true cargo]

We know doom slayer, hollow Knight, RWBY, fate, and dio oh

So that leaves 7 left

[remote mica]

https://tenor.com/view/fate-unlimited-blade-works-fate-stay-night-fate-ubw-fate-shirou-vs-gilgamesh-gif-13714384814980180596

[true cargo]

It's mostlikely doomslayer imo

But they did say a mythic farm would be added eventually

I feel like that might have an Evo though

[tepid arch]

I guess a farm could evo

If it’s mythic

[true cargo]

Mhm

[weak merlin]

what were our last tournament units

[tepid arch]

Probably buu

[weak merlin]

❓

[true cargo]

Like the buffed ones or the rewards?

[weak merlin]

rewards

[tepid arch]

when I played tournament it was always buu

[true cargo]

Rewards are always the 2 nono skins

[weak merlin]

the ones before that

[true cargo]

The [REDACTED] ones

[weak merlin]

i meant

dmca

[true cargo]

The GG ones

And fate I think

The Gilgamesh, saber, cu chulain, and the last one

Female gilg, man saber, bag over head cu chulain, and one more

[weak merlin]

fern
frieren
2 umamasune
gojo
itadori
sukuna
choso
todo
toji
jogo
mahito
mechamaru

am i missing anyone besides nobara and inumaki

the bums

[true cargo]

The curses from the story...

The train...

[weak merlin]

those arent units

[true cargo]

They never said only unit remodels

[radiant summit]

Why would they waste time remodeling legendarys

[true cargo]

Obviously they'd remodel it all

It's part of the game

They won't just leave it as black boxes

[weak merlin]

its pretty clear thats a unit list bro

[true cargo]

Of which the remodels aren't counted as

Else like you said 2 are missing

[weak merlin]

yeah because theyre irrelevant to mention

[true cargo]

Not really? People use inumaki for Obito vf rn

[weak merlin]

look if it is unevo why are they like this

[true cargo]

It's an entirely different situation lol

Obviously doesn't relate

Since there are more than 13 remodels

[radiant summit]

Why would they say 27 in announcements than bro 😭

[true cargo]

14 units and evos mostlikely

[radiant summit]

Like ur looking to do for nothing

[weak merlin]

why do some of the names become shorter if theyre evos

[tepid arch]

for fun

[true cargo]

It doesn't have to be an ordered list y'know

[weak merlin]

even if they werent listened after

[true cargo]

Plus it's not like names don't change, just look at itadori to sukuna

[weak merlin]

listed after their evo

[true cargo]

They could do that a few times this upd

Especially since it's a bunch of unique units

No singular theme

[thorny swan]

Spot and godzilla too

[true cargo]

Oh? When were those confirmed

[thorny swan]

Or well godzilla aint 100% confirmed

[weak merlin]

what transformations do they have that make them shorter named

[true cargo]

Also is that spot from the miles Morales movie or smth else

[thorny swan]

Clay sent it when someone asked what there pick was

Quite a while ago

[true cargo]

Ah ok

What type of spot tho

[thorny swan]

Yeah that

[radiant summit]

Spider-Man

[true cargo]

Ah ok yea

That could be cool

6/14 units unlocked

[tepid arch]

what are they I only know doom guy and spot so far

[true cargo]

Hollow Knight, fate, RWBY, dio oh

No clue what the fate one might be

But RWBY is most likely the protagonist

[thorny swan]

Most likely shirou

[thorny swan]

Most definitely

[true cargo]

Id believe that

[thorny swan]

Ruby rose

[true cargo]

So yeah 6/14

Collecting these like gym badges

[thorny swan]

Possibly 7…

6 or 7…

[true cargo]

Well I don't want to get my hopes up if it might be wrong

[true cargo]

Shut

[thorny swan]

[weak merlin]

arent the only units to not get evos vanguards and lb units

[thorny swan]

Mhm

[fair tiger]

this update gonna be so mid

[weak merlin]

so why would there be a unit thats just not evo’d

[weak merlin]

yeah probably

[fair tiger]

adding everyone but natsu

[weak merlin]

atleast we get a shit ton of rerolls

[fair tiger]

yes

[radiant summit]

Holy mid

[fair tiger]

who asked for a godzilla unit

[thorny swan]

A vanguard unit

[thorny swan]

Godzilla fans

😄

[true cargo]

You're mid

[radiant summit]

Is it shin

[weak merlin]

theres no way any vanguard is coming

[thorny swan]

Why not

[weak merlin]

this upd no way

[true cargo]

They did say 9.0 wouldn't have a vanguard

[thorny swan]

Oh

[radiant summit]

Only unit that could be a vanguard is hk

[thorny swan]

When did they say that

[weak merlin]

shut up

[radiant summit]

Bc pyseph get what he want

[true cargo]

But yeah if they go back on their word that'd be the only unit

He is already practically one with what he has

[weak merlin]

i mean isnt it also just obvious

[true cargo]

Just not the category

My man has 2 custom guis

[radiant summit]

They never said there wouldn’t be one they just said dio wasn’t gonna be one

[true cargo]

I coulda sworn I saw somewhere they said no vanguard on 9.0

[weak merlin]

we just had a vanguard, they said a fall update would come but not a halloween update so fall is when we get our next vanguard

[radiant summit]

Nah I don’t think so

Idk tho

I don’t be lurckin

[weak merlin]

makes 0 sense for another vanguard

[thorny swan]

Im just gonna watch yuzu release a yuzu unit that is vanguard rarity

[radiant summit]

Broly quest was like a secret quest

Shit was easy asf

[weak merlin]

hes still a vanguard

[weak merlin]

pyseph said themself theyre all gonna be balanced so that theres not gonna be an obvious best unit

and theyre all gonna be equally balancef

[thorny swan]

It could really just be a troll unit

[weak merlin]

we know thats prob bs but we can probably tell that most of them r prob gonna be mythic/secret and dios gonna be the only one to stand out

[true cargo]

As long as it's as good as lag shooter we all good

[thorny swan]

Really not that deep

[true cargo]

Hollow Knight and doomslayer already stand out more than dio oh

[thorny swan]

Theres gonna be 14 units

Boom

[radiant summit]

There is a vanguard or sum

[true cargo]

I refuse to believe dio oh will have something on the level of 2 custom guis or 1st person shooter mode

[weak merlin]

bro im sorry but i know for a fact the 1st person shooter mode will just piss you off

[true cargo]

Especially since he's only a secret unit

[true cargo]

Not really, I like the idea

[weak merlin]

dio oh is also the only unit the community collectively voted on btw

[weak merlin]

in concept probably

[true cargo]

Ok that means literally nothing to them lol

Gilgamesh was also voted by the community and he's mid

[weak merlin]

yes because appealing to what the majority wants has never worked in av’s favor

[weak merlin]

different scenario

they have no reason to make dio mid

they had a reason for gilg

[true cargo]

I was right :)

[true cargo]

For the love of the game

I just dislike jojos entirely, Im praying on dio oh's downfall

[radiant summit]

He said it was like the code of the unit list so it counted evos and undos

Evos

[true cargo]

Yea I assumed so

It makes a lot more sense than remodels

[weak merlin]

weird cuz theyve never done that before

[radiant summit]

To be fair he said remodels like they was in the list

[radiant summit]

Yea fr

[true cargo]

They've literally never posted a list like that before

There is no reference here

[true cargo]

Not really, just referred to them as to why the update was delayed more

[weak merlin]

look at the update logs

[true cargo]

If I go there I'll see an obfuscated list of units and remodels that were released on a past update?

That has that same style?

[weak merlin]

its not literal dingbat im saying in past logs they’ve presented to us they dont include unevos

[true cargo]

Because they didn't show code before

That's straight from their lua files

U can see the brackets and everything

A deliberately typed out list is obviously different than what they actually use in the backend

[radiant summit]

He’s saying they never done that before

They never showed code before

Just like a real log

[true cargo]

Yea which is why we didn't get unevos before, y'all are comparing something we've never gotten before to stuff we have, which is just illogical to begin with

[radiant summit]

Bro what

Why wouldn’t we compare sum that’s been in the game since release to that

It’s never been done so of we would think it’s what they always do

[true cargo]

Comparing two things that foundationally aren't the same is illogical

[radiant summit]

How would we know they are the same

[true cargo]

That is NOT how u properly assess things

[weak merlin]

nah i just didnt know it was actual code

[radiant summit]

Fr

I don’t code

[weak merlin]

thought it was just a list on like that one website

[true cargo]

"we've never seen it before so we can just infer everything is the same"

[weak merlin]

with the planning

[true cargo]

I only knew cuz of the brackets

[radiant summit]

It’s been the same since release

[weak merlin]

forgot what its called

[true cargo]

Without those I might have come to the same conclusion as y'all

[weak merlin]

whats that website where they plan everything out

and share it to people

[radiant summit]

Exactly bro

[weak merlin]

with like the

[true cargo]

But we had those

[weak merlin]

where people put roadmaps

[true cargo]

Which is why you guys thinking that is bad

[radiant summit]

I don’t code

[weak merlin]

the brackets are covered on mobile

[radiant summit]

I don’t know what code looks like

Never coded ever

[weak merlin]

not covered

but

theyre like not noticable at all

im ngl i thought the brackets were this * next to the names

[true cargo]

Ah, rookie mistake

But yeah that's just a picture of their backend code with all the important words pixelated

Probably just a list that players can't see

Or maybe some sort of special update 9.0 category is being made

It could just be a category like bleach and fate

[weak merlin]

i thought it was a trello

thats why

thats what the websites called

[true cargo]

Trellos aren't coded like that either...

[radiant summit]

He never coded

Before either

Not everyone is terry davis

[true cargo]

I mean yeah but you guys can't just assume information and die on the hill you made without really knowing anything...

Especially when someone proves that logic to be wrong

[radiant summit]

U we’re just assuming tho till I sent the ss

[true cargo]

Not really, I have coding experience, not to mention I also knew there were more than 13 remodels

I knew it was either 13 untold unique units or unevos

Process of elimination

[radiant summit]

So u literally only knew bc of coding

And if someone didn’t code and they saw the logs before they would think what I was saying

Anyone with no coding experience would have came to my conclusion

Or close to it

[true cargo]

Yes, which is a conclusion based on only inferences with no actual substantial evidence behind such

You guys literally proved yourselves wrong and still thought you were right

[weak merlin]

im saying i thought they just looked similar

[true cargo]

...?

Not before you weren't

[weak merlin]

what

[radiant summit]

When was I still trying to say I was right

[weak merlin]

i thought that was a roadmap

for the devs to personally see

[weak merlin]

im not assuming anything if the thing i thought was right and was just a list

[radiant summit]

I came a assumption which is just a guess

[violet bay]

I swear this guy is just typing shit atp

[bleak dragon]

They did?

[spice lotus]

Everyone liked the buu sneak and it was literally just blurred passives

Theres always something to sneak

[weak merlin]

im sorry but why are we lying

i dont think anyone and i mean anyone liked the buu sneak

[spice lotus]

Bait

💔

[sturdy hinge]

Maps are done long before updates

[formal lion]

Now that trading being announced is an actually fucking sneak

[umbral furnace]

@silk dune , prepare that julius for me

[trim olive]

Bro doesnt have julius💀

[minor fiber]

yk whats funny i have diavolo and not the miku skin

[raw tundra]

WHY THEY RUINING THE GAME DROPING THESE SNEAKS

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

THEY RUNIED THE GAME

GGS

ALS SNNEAKS DEVS

NOOOOOOO

[radiant summit]

?

[weak merlin]

guess we got a sneak

[umbral furnace]

ig bro hate trading

[rancid minnow]

ts is working

[weak merlin]

i mean they were prob alr gonna release it

[thorny swan]

WHERE IS THAT FOOL

THAT DOUBTED SHIROU WILL COME

MAYAHhwhahHeaHwha

[umbral furnace]

i hope trading doesn't have tax

[thorny swan]

Nah im finding this fool

[violet bay]

You mean this fake?

🦆

[rancid minnow]

Pretty sure it's shiny

or is it a unit leak

our first sneak at the DMCA model

hoym shit it's fire

[thorny swan]

No thats definitely the unit

[umbral furnace]

dude, read the unit name

is shirou

and the rarity confirm aswell

[thorny swan]

Its different element + rarity then archer

[umbral furnace]

well, shirou for a anniversary update instead of a fate update is stupid

[south zenith]

we dont need more fate updates

[umbral furnace]

shirou vanguard is no longer possible

[south zenith]

kazi can just keep sprinkling units in until people get fully sick of it

[umbral furnace]

fate zero bro

kiritsugu secret

[south zenith]

yeah

[weak merlin]

thetes another sneaj?

[south zenith]

the zero stands for how many updates it'll get

[thorny swan]

Waiter waiter more fate units please!

[thorny swan]

FEED ME MORE FATE UNITS

🤤

Absolutely salivating see shirou

[umbral furnace]

the mc being a limited is a wild move

[thorny swan]

Trading + shirou sneak

[weak merlin]

whos shirou

[south zenith]

That's just anni

[umbral furnace]

the fake guy

[thorny swan]

Mc of fate

[rancid minnow]

thank god

[thorny swan]

Stay night

[south zenith]

it's almost certainly kazi's pick so

[rancid minnow]

if anyone deserves it it would be gilga

[stoic hornet]

they should add a marry units feature for anniversary alongside trading

[umbral furnace]

gilga

LOL

[thorny swan]

Artoria >

[rancid minnow]

idc aslong as it's not shirou

[umbral furnace]

shirou is the only one that deserve to be the fate vanguard

gilga is a bum

[rancid minnow]

❌

[rancid minnow]

❌

[thorny swan]

the very humble Artoria

[rancid minnow]

jeanne alter next vanguard

[thorny swan]

Heck no

[umbral furnace]

gilgamesh is full bark no bite

[umbral furnace]

wait how i missed it message

[south zenith]

hear me out

what if

we just didn't have a fate vanguard

[weak merlin]

what vanguard do u want then

[umbral furnace]

GG vanguard

[weak merlin]

5 more dragon ball vanguards please!

[thorny swan]

Not the one to ask…

Clench’s fist

😡

Pristine bait

[umbral furnace]

beast gohan vanguard
ten vanguard
goku mui vanguard
ultra ego vegeta vanguard
black frieza vanguard

[south zenith]

oh right, that reminds me

i gotta change my name

but that's effort just for a joke...

[radiant summit]

Idk bro he not all their

[ionic solar]

correction 13.5 units

[thorny swan]

14

[silk dune]

🫡

[true cargo]

damn i was spitting

1 for 1

[violet edge]

Goated

[tulip marsh]

I gotchu bro

[remote mica]

shirou

[tepid arch]

What’s wrong with it

[south zenith]

Nothing

I was just tempted to do a different joke

[white cove]

you should've seen back then the communications when the game first released and before it released 😭

the delays

[finite zenith]

slide

[jovial shard]

we had like 20 different release dates

[rancid minnow]

I was there

[finite zenith]

At least they aren’t like AA

0 communication and gave up fast

[jovial shard]

2025💔 why we larping av discord

[jovial shard]

they used to be

[finite zenith]

Well they got stages now

[minor fiber]

🙏

[weak merlin]

not rlly

[weak merlin]

yall se the new doom sneak

[radiant summit]

Shit look op asf

[true cargo]

the one from 6 days ago?

id be surprised if people havent yet are in suggestions

[radiant summit]

It’s not on discord it came out like 30 min ago

[true cargo]

valk kinda goated

[silk dune]

surely

these sneaks mean update is this weekend right

right?

[umbral furnace]

hell no

[true cargo]

i meant at doomslayer you goober

[true cargo]

we can dream

[umbral furnace]

watch him make doom slayer a pvp unit

[true cargo]

istg if they lock ANY more units behind pvp then ppl are going to be pissed

some people still dont have byeken

[umbral furnace]

he will make doom slayer good for pvp and ass for everything else

like he did with merlin

[true cargo]

if he does then he needs to be told to never balance anything towards pvp again

[fierce hornet]

i mean its pretty hard to make a controllable unit bad🧌

[true cargo]

low stats

[umbral furnace]

astd did

is not hard

[silk dune]

real ones remember the old controllable units in astd

[true cargo]

like really yea its not that hard lol

[fierce hornet]

i mean yeah ofc but usually in every td game in general controllable units are always good

[silk dune]

they were the best units in the game

[true cargo]

ASTD?

[silk dune]

the very first one

was meta

[umbral furnace]

only the first one

[fierce hornet]

what-? isnt he the best unit in the game😭

[umbral furnace]

who???

[silk dune]

oh yeah

and X they did the same thing

hes meta as well

[umbral furnace]

im talking about astd

[burnt widget]

They've made Armin's colossal giant in AV a controllable and it was generally fine for what it did I doubt they'll make Doom Guy terrible

[umbral furnace]

astdx can eat shit

[silk dune]

in old astd they were the best units

ok

[silk dune]

astdx can eat shit i agree

[umbral furnace]

suzaku become irrelevant in 1 update
kakashi was good for like 4 updates
the guy from jojo was useless and he was the last one

[silk dune]

what jojo character was controllable?

[umbral furnace]

the guy from part 2

the german

[high canyon]

Kakashi was relevant for 20 upds fym

[silk dune]

i thought his gimmick was having infinite range and short spa

[silk dune]

20 updates is insane glaze

[umbral furnace]

he was locked to one place and you had to control him to be good because his line aoe was a joke

he was in fact useless

[silk dune]

well he was a gimmick character

[umbral furnace]

and he cost like 10k

[silk dune]

not meant to be insane

[umbral furnace]

like fuck

[high canyon]

Its tru challenege 3 meta cus he wasnt stunned inf meta cause rng

Then he got rebuffed before the game died

[umbral furnace]

oh yea. naruto and sasuke was also controlable units

and they were ass

7 stars

the ones from the bp

[silk dune]

thats the issue right there

yall remember how netero still hasnt released yet

they gatekept that shit for no reason even after being finished

[raw tundra]

@radiant summit bro :/ why they leaking wou unit

they runing the game

leaking so many things :///

[radiant summit]

When did I say it would ruin anything

I said we already have a good amount

I didn’t say more would kill the game

I said we need more communication

[raw tundra]

HELP BROOOOOOO

THEY RUNING THE GAMEEEE

NOOOOOOOOOO

THEY LEAKED A MODEL UNTI

WE SHOULDA INSTEAD JUST LOOKED AT A IMAGE OF THE UNIT INSTEAD OF THE MODEL

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

😂

ur a clown buddy

u didnt even want the minimum

[radiant summit]

Ur brain dead

U can’t read

Never said anything abt ruining the game

[green kraken]

from Fairy Tail as vanguards, Acnologia, Zeref and Irene are far better choices

[dull stream]

🥀

[elder berry]

Yo did u get ban

[tepid arch]

asking him like he can reply

[obsidian oar]

no trailer today, guess we're waiting another week

[silk dune]

itll drop today. i know it will.

and if it doesn't, it drops tomorrow.

[thorny swan]

Son

Its not today nor tomorrow

[radiant summit]

Next fridays tm

[silk dune]

let me have hope

[idle girder]

https://tenor.com/view/traewockhardt-sad-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-16591014784735052511

[weak merlin]

its in another week

theyre gonna add 1 more slop event

[silk dune]

no, no, no.

its today or tomorrow

[idle girder]

we have 2 more events so it can't tmrw

[silk dune]

what events

[trim olive]

2x shiny and 2x summer currency

[weak merlin]

its okay bro

just accept it

[silk dune]

noo

noo

its tomorrow

[limpid garnet]

We have 2 more events bro

[silk dune]

SHUT UP!!!!

ITS TOMORROW!!!

[limpid garnet]

I don't know if it's worth it in terms of marketing to make such a time-consuming update, 25k players actually

Av have some marketing guy? To do something sometimes

[violet edge]

Ytbers

[limpid garnet]

I say marketing graduates who can make an appointment for them annually

[violet edge]

You mean like a Team Manager?

[limpid garnet]

Analyze how to maintain the player base with statistics

[violet edge]

Ah

No they don't

[limpid garnet]

Someone trained in marketing and ad

Sorry for the bad english im tired

[violet edge]

It's alr

[silk dune]

DIO OVER HEAVEN

[obsidian oar]

next weekend has to be the release 🙏

[tiny orchid]

Soon = 6-7 weeks

[violet bay]

*months

Only 2 showers away

[idle girder]

Bro wdym 2 showers, its 1 shower till christmas

[silk dune]

nope, another 2

[obsidian oar]

i'll probably just stop playing the game till update 8 release, grinding for rerolls doesnt seem like fun anymore for now

[loud acorn]

i stopped grinding so long ago

be forgetting how invested i was in this game at one point

[obsidian oar]

fr

[magic moss]

yea first 2 weeks were fun

5 weeks of doing it is too much

[weak merlin]

i think its obvious now that they just didnt have anything ready

to sneak

[hidden hedge]

they just bums

[deft oar]

[weak merlin]

what that

[radiant summit]

Hk unit

[errant swan]

4K placement 💀

5.6k upgrade 1

Wdf 😭

[short topaz]

maybe we're finally getting that new farm unit!

[spice lotus]

Sure do love 6 week updates

[radiant summit]

i think u mean 7 weeks

[spice lotus]

Not yet, this is week 5

If its not next weekend either then its 7 yeah

[radiant summit]

u didnt get it

[fresh mulch]

Dont we all

[obsidian oar]

if theres no trailer today

then we'll know

that this update is never coming 🙏

[proud trout]

Anime Soonguards 😭

[fresh mulch]

True

I feel it tdy tho

[trim olive]

does he know

[ionic terrace]

Its so obviously coming next week or the week after that