ALOCARD VANGUARD EVO

[blazing kite]

[left compass]

"middle aged"

[barren dock]

miso's right

[left compass]

shes hundreds of years old

[barren dock]

sugoi anime girls are way better then real females and realistic looking women

[velvet siren]

yeah nty

[barren dock]

trust

[velvet siren]

fate > whatever silly of war

[blazing kite]

What if I told you

That fate had god of war references

[velvet siren]

you got it all mixed up

[blazing kite]

YOU BETTER NOT

[velvet siren]

howd yk

[blazing kite]

[velvet siren]

[blazing kite]

I could just smell
It

What the

Yo why does that happen

[velvet siren]

ragebait unsuccessful

[blazing kite]

I hate when that happens

Biggest pet peeve of mine

[barren dock]

kratos ideas (spitballing):
hypercarry unit along the lines of ywhach or miso's nero claudius concept
different attacks based on unit distance from enemies on the track (possibly? could show that he has a wide arsenal to deal with foes at any range. though maybe an attack swapping active ability could do this better)
follow-ups
DOT cycling (frostburn/freeze, intense burn, pppppoison??)
taking elements from units on your team via active ability or if a specific condition is met

[barren dock]

atreus should absolutely be a viable support unit for kratos btw

at the very least, they should have a lot of synergy (could maybe make it so kratos doesnt debuff atreus at all w/ any of his abilities or passives)

[rancid sigil]

Bump

Make my shiny alucard useful

[barren dock]

go here instead

🙏

[rancid sigil]

Alr gang

[barren dock]

wait wrong one

so many alucard suggestions

hang on let me find

tjhe good one....

here

[rancid sigil]

K

[short steeple]

at the very least just give him a Halloween skin

[raw quest]

make the vanguard evo the girl form

[jolly gust]

bro atleast needs a vanguard familiar

[white fog]

bump

[mint notch]

Give him an evo and then a VF for that evo

[thick mural]

How stupid

[wise cipher]

Twin I’m on 1.7 m still don’t have him

I’m beyond cooked

Shoulda added that pity a while ago

[mint notch]

While they’re at it give a second evo to his familiar

[dark pike]

but rn adding a pity for a permanent unit doesn't make sense, but when he will get a evo, he will have a limited pity

[left compass]

adding pity for any unit makes perfect sense

[mint notch]

Just spend more gems

[left compass]

i have alucard

he needs a pity

[mint notch]

They should add a pity for the soul purpose of it being easier for me to get shiny

[thick mural]

Definitely not

[left compass]

if alucard doesnt need a pity nothing does

[thick mural]

He's supposed to be one of those "Holy shit I got him" moments and a pity robs that

Vanguards only got pity because they're limited time

Alucard isn't going anywhere and hence doesn't need it

You'll always be summoning on the gem banner

[left compass]

its not robbed when you pull him without pity

[thick mural]

Yeah so don't add pity

[left compass]

no, it was also very demotivating for players

[left compass]

the same argument you made can be said for any unit with a pity

[thick mural]

TDs will always be demotivating by nature because of their grind

[left compass]

"dont have monarch pity because itll feel more satisfying"

"dont have igris pity because itll feel more satisfying"

[thick mural]

Gems are far more at your disposal than rerolls

And again, always summoning on gem banner

You'll not eternally be on one stage or spinning on one unit

[left compass]

youre missing the point. the reason pity exists is for the convenience to the player, because you are at the hands of rng, and its not always going to be in your favor. "itll feel more satisfying" is just a YOU thing, and that argument isnt fair to anyone else. a pity being added isnt going to stop alucard being pulled at full odds, they could just make the pity when you reach the amount of gems to pull alucard on average like vanguards.

i also dont see the point of this argument if you have alucard already, which you probably do

[thick mural]

The point of the argument is it's stupid to give the banner secret a pity, and referring to the point about gem banner being eternal once again if you keep playing you WILL get him eventually

[wise cipher]

Gang I spun 1.7m gems and still don’t have the bum

At some point something has to be added

[thick mural]

That's just your luck and you'll get him at some point

[wise cipher]

I know people who spun 3m and didn’t get bro

[left compass]

your argument is demotivating

[thick mural]

Vnaguards got pity because they're limited time and that's the only reason they got it

[left compass]

thats why pity is a thing in the first place lmfao

[wise cipher]

And gems are much harder to grind than any event currency literally ever

It’s the most tedious pos grind in the game

Infinite gives you like 4K for 100 waves

You have odyssey that gives you 500 the first 10 waves which is also shit

And that’s abt it

[thick mural]

If you focus only on the 0.0004% unit you will get demotivated

[left compass]

boss bounties are one of the best ways to get gems, definitely better than infinite

[wise cipher]

Ass too

All methods we have to get gems are dogshit

[left compass]

yeah they should start putting gems in event shops and challenges

[wise cipher]

And that’s fine since they’re the most easily obtainable currency

However after 1mil gems spent without alucard there should be a soft pity

Because this is fucking absurd

I been playing since day 1 and don’t have him

[left compass]

he is still a meta character to this day, and if you have the good banner units (yuji, gojo, guts, frieza), alucards all you got if you dont have him yet lol

[rancid sigil]

Holy ragebait, alucard isn't a meta dps unit so no reason for him to have pity

[left compass]

igris is far from meta and he has 200 pity

[wise cipher]

Slop argument

[left compass]

same for yamamoto

[wise cipher]

On god you’re slow

😭

[rancid sigil]

Just tell me u didn't get him

Noob

[left compass]

yeah, they said that

[wise cipher]

Typa dude to not have gogeta

Or diavolo

[rancid sigil]

I have him kiddo

[wise cipher]

😭

[wise cipher]

Sure bud

[rancid sigil]

I even have him monarch

[thick mural]

Limit break and shiny hunt, or just save a large amount for the next update and drop your gems on their head when it comes

[wise cipher]

Tragic

[rancid sigil]

Now cry about alucard not having pity

[left compass]

no idea how that engages with my argument at all but preach

"shiny hunt" is cosmetic

if youre trying to get alucard you are indirectly doing both of those things as well

[thick mural]

And 99% of the people that want Alucard want him cause he's cool, his wounded is only seriously useful in inf because all short form content is very easy without him

[left compass]

also, i want to note something very important, when alucard pity gets added, people are still gonna have to dump another 1.2 million gems because that wouldnt be tracked

so people could be unlucky enough to have drops millions of gems without him, then have to get another million

and at that point they definitely deserve an alucard copy

but i imagine youre still gonna say "nuh uh" because you just love gatekeeping

[thick mural]

"When"

Also gems are tracked on profile

[left compass]

gems are tracked, not an alucard pity because it doesnt exist, unless they made the pity directly track gems ever spent (which would be awesome)

[thick mural]

Except if they were to set the pity at 1 million gems per se they could just move the gems spent count from the profile to the alucard pity

[left compass]

so people who spent millions would get him in one summon, sounds great

[thick mural]

Yes exactly like how the updated monarch pity worked

[left compass]

can you tell me what the downside to this would be besides "but pulling alucard make me feel good"

[thick mural]

There's no downside it's just not really necessary

[left compass]

soo alucard pity wouldnt actually be an issue

?

[thick mural]

I'm not trying to say this in a gatekeep-y way I'd give away all my spare Alucards if he was tradeable idc how many people have him

It wouldn't be an issue it just wouldn't be necessary

Should I get pity compensation because I dropped 10 mill presents no Gogeta

They only dropped pity on vanguards because they're limited time

And stage drops getting a pity is because inevitably those units will be thrown off the tier list

[left compass]

yes

[thick mural]

Alucard's been a staple and will not go anywhere with his passive

[thick mural]

I shouldn't because I was never guaranteed anything

I got unlucky and that's that

[left compass]

no pity is ever "necessary" but its a good thing that it exists

igris pity not existing back then is why i started using tinytask

[thick mural]

^

[left compass]

not the point, pity is a good QoL feature and is more rewarding to your time and effort spent. rng is random

i never ever played 50 stages of any TD game before until igris dropped, and it was very demotivating

[rancid sigil]

Bump

[thorny creek]

why is ts not closed

[rancid sigil]

b

[tender herald]

No

Don’t buff a unit that’s meta

[bright orbit]

no

js add abel nightroad

or vampire hunter d

there are other cool vampire characters

https://tenor.com/view/trinity-blood-abel-nightroad-krusnik-crusnik-satori-gif-15508914616103851065

or alucard from castevania

[rich sphinx]

pre update 2 leaderboard lore

[blazing kite]

Alucard deadass useless outside of inf/tounrey

[blazing kite]

Holy shit I got him now I can finally replace my Escanor/sjw/kaguya for 20% more damage!!!!!!!!

Absolute game changer

This guy will surely carry me for the rest of my career

[glad peak]

you have 6 slots

[blazing kite]

And he’s not worth replacing any of my units in all 6 slots

Literally

[versed pier]

i love it when i am able to max all 6 of my units in a single match right

ts the same type of guy who doesnt have any supports in his team because in his mind ''more dps = better team''

[raw quest]

av players when you tell them you don't need to run 5 dps

[blazing kite]

Completely different situation we are talking about right now

You dont need to run 5 dps

But again

For the optional supports

And he’s seeming the best

Depending on the team

You lose more than you gain

[versed pier]

Whats the point your tryna make rn

how are you losing anything?

[blazing kite]

He’s highkey not worth the hassle bro

[raw quest]

that he is stupid and think supports doesn't make a notable impact in the match

[versed pier]

what hassle

ur not even actively tryna go alucard anyway

its one of the units that u get in the process when ur aiming for smth else with a miniscule chance

[fleet kite]

guts best unit because infinite dps

[blazing kite]

And he impacts the gameplay in no way

He’s literally useless

He’s SO optional it’s not funny

In my eyes

[versed pier]

cheapest fullaoe bleed with %20 damage boost

[blazing kite]

I wouldn’t care if they completely removed my guy

[versed pier]

i dont remember any other unit that can do ts

[blazing kite]

Huge !!

[versed pier]

what more do you want LOL

[blazing kite]

We got broly who ruptures follows up on placement

[raw quest]

20% damage increase bleed unit with fast full aoe is not impactfull

[blazing kite]

Full aoe

All he has

Is 20% damage

[raw quest]

mf is telling me 20% is not crazy?

[versed pier]

we forgetting the difference between a dps and a support now

great

[versed pier]

and its multiplicative

😂

[raw quest]

it is the type of person who say the smith is useless or some shit

[blazing kite]

20% is not crazy no

[raw quest]

not crazy

[versed pier]

nah bro trust 5 dps and sprintwagon is the strat

[blazing kite]

It’s not

[raw quest]

making the enemy take 20% more damage for 8 seconds is not crazy

[versed pier]

actually forget sprintwagon

[blazing kite]

And hella units buff themselves for more

[versed pier]

if this guy is able to max 5 dps in a normal match

[blazing kite]

For longer

[versed pier]

im sure he can do well without a farm too

make it 6 dps

[versed pier]

which unit

are u talking about rn?

[blazing kite]

20% for like 1 attack ain’t crazy

You not gonna believe this but

[versed pier]

1 attack?

💀

[raw quest]

yea, they buff themselfs
alucard buff apply for the entire team

[blazing kite]

Maybe 2

[versed pier]

its an effect

that doesnt wear off

[versed pier]

until the enemy is out of range

💀

[blazing kite]

Broly does

[versed pier]

not for 1 attack

💀

[raw quest]

broly buff unbound units
alucard debuff benefit everyone

[versed pier]

buddy thinks wounded works the same as bubbled

[blazing kite]

Not even talking about that buff

Because that’s just for 1 element

My point is

My guy does 1 thing notable

But it’s not that crazy

[versed pier]

what do you want supports to do my guy

do you expect a %100 buff just like erwin from aa

[blazing kite]

I will never defend a WHOLEE slot for 20% damage not at this point in the game

Crazy for a beginner

[raw quest]

release unit is good in one thing

[blazing kite]

Crazy like 5 updates ago

But now bro

[raw quest]

when we had passives like sasuke

[blazing kite]

He’s not as good as people
Hype him up to be

[raw quest]

mf have other 5 slots

well, 4

[versed pier]

nobody is hyping him up

nor saying best support

he is top 3 supports

thats it

[raw quest]

if we include the farm

[versed pier]

• very usable and versatile

[blazing kite]

I throw my guy on the team and It genuinely feels like he’s not even there

[versed pier]

and thats your problem

[raw quest]

is not like there are videos of tournaments strats that specify without alucard

[versed pier]

genuinely tell me how are you making use of all your slots in a 15 wave game? considering ur only using dps

[blazing kite]

Tournaments always

[raw quest]

or like people asking pity for him

[versed pier]

answer ts

[raw quest]

yea

[blazing kite]

You don’t

[versed pier]

the case was much worse until like upd 7

[versed pier]

so why not bring alucard?

[blazing kite]

My point is his rarity vs his reward

Lowkey

[versed pier]

he is a secret

thats top 3 supports

a unit from upd 0 btw

[blazing kite]

Tournament strats based of this one guy you pull once in a blue fuck

[versed pier]

what do you even want from him

[blazing kite]

And I don’t play tournaments I lowkey hate them gonna be so honest

[versed pier]

until 7.0 every strat had alucard in it lol

people were begging for them to make strats excluding alucard

[blazing kite]

Running strats over and over for a mid unit and like

How many rolls was it again

[versed pier]

also the ''i dont even notice a difference when he is in my team'' argument is completely bs

the game is so easy rn

[blazing kite]

I wish they either did something with him or did something like ALS where their banner secrets got rotated

Further my point

[versed pier]

that u can solo everything with epic sakura atp

[blazing kite]

And we still got this once in a blue moon fuck

In the banner just for funsy

[versed pier]

you are refusing to play the only competitive/hard modes and wonder why alucard isnt doing anything lol

ofc you wont notice the %20 difference when monarch escanor deals a million dmg to 10k hp enemies

[blazing kite]

Some People don’t have him even after playing since release and others have gotten him so much he’s a nuisance

I pull an alucard and I get upset

Because me personally that’s good rng wasted on this

Slop fuck

[versed pier]

this is just you lol

[blazing kite]

Not really

[blazing kite]

The modes suck and the rewards suck

[versed pier]

''good rng wasted''

you dont waste rng

[versed pier]

im assuming your saying this only bc you cant get top 5

[blazing kite]

I think the idea of that in general is bad

Again in my mind

Hassle vs reward

Not worth it

Same with alucard

[blazing kite]

I’ve only done so many tournaments and I’ve gotten top 5 maybe once and the reward for what it took my disappointment was immeasurable

And we got people dropping hundreds of rolls to get this one unit good for this one tournament Strat to compete for number one to only get 1/3 of the resources they spent for that spot

Shit makes no sense to me

[fleet kite]

long term investment

[blazing kite]

Except when the new bracket requires 3 new units which means more rolling

[lost valve]

Investment for tourneys but tourneys are horrible honestly

[blazing kite]

Especially now

[fleet kite]

true

[lost valve]

Traitless

[fleet kite]

it's just rumbling and cid spam

[lost valve]

And skull knight

[fleet kite]

sukuna as well since he got a familiar

[lost valve]

Rumbling is the worst thing that happened for tourneys that sh should be perma banned

[blazing kite]

Fair traitless do exist

[fleet kite]

it's really no skill lol

[lost valve]

Yeah but you can’t always run sukuna because of debuffs so sometimes you gotta bring smith too which makes thing more balanced

[fleet kite]

it's their only use tho can't blame them

[fleet kite]

yeah and that's tournaments

[lost valve]

But traitless is always about rumbling or cid

[fleet kite]

do tournaments rn btw guys since ccu is lowish

[lost valve]

There is a guy in my bracket with 5.600

I am not even going to try

And I don’t have aladin for traits tournament

So it’s pointless

[fleet kite]

holy shit

[fleet kite]

same as tournament 50

[lost valve]

I am just grinding birbs and cid cause shiny lfelt is an illusion 400 runs in total no shiny lfelt and earlier I did 80 not a single lfelt

[lost valve]

Should have gotten him

[fleet kite]

it was painful

[lost valve]

Crazy you’re doing ex

If I could solo ex I would prob do it

[fleet kite]

didn't even reach lvl 25 in bp update was kinda bad

[lost valve]

Also they should rework bp because as of right now it feels dry

[fleet kite]

i regret not getting invincible

[lost valve]

I got 25 for dark mage

[fleet kite]

4%

[lost valve]

Honestly I don’t care

[lost valve]

But sometimes I wish I had him

[toxic swan]

When will they stop making suggestions about alucard

[lost valve]

Because that unit is pretty strong for damage tourneys

[fleet kite]

he's used a lot for wl lb and tournament other than that he's just alrugjt

[fleet kite]

yeah

[lost valve]

Never

[blazing kite]

I genuinely feel like bro needs to be replaced

But also never

It’s never gonna happen

People with no prior knowledge will see that 0.004 compare it to other units with that same chance and glorify him in their minds

And then they pull him

[raw quest]

until they realize that not every unit is meta for dps

[blazing kite]

[lost valve]

Instead they should add a vanguard familiar for my goat haruka rin

[blazing kite]

Yes but honestly why would a support ever be this rare

[fleet kite]

for subaru🔥

[blazing kite]

And this my bias speaking but

WHY is alucard a support at all

Doing my goat GREASY

[fleet kite]

and make okabe a unit instead of just npc

[lost valve]

I didn’t get him 🔥 so he doesn’t deserve one

[blazing kite]

that’s like making Escanor a support

[raw quest]

because he was meta dps aswell on game release

[blazing kite]

Like holy L

[blazing kite]

Didn’t he get nerfed into his current state

[raw quest]

he just become outdated in dps terms and people finally care about his support aspect

[versed pier]

🥀

[blazing kite]

Or was that another unit I don’t remember

[blazing kite]

This not a bad take

[lost valve]

Igris

[fleet kite]

iirc alucard was never touched

[raw quest]

he only got 1 buff which made his bleed from 2 seconds to 8

[fleet kite]

i remember nerf for jinwoo and igris

[blazing kite]

Ahhhh

[lost valve]

They nerfed igris so tengen could be usable and fit into the meta

[fleet kite]

jinwoo arise was like 60 seconds

[blazing kite]

[raw quest]

8 seconds bleed full aoe unit sound fair

[lost valve]

Wounded as well

[blazing kite]

Gonna be so honest my bias is another reason I’m upset with alucard

Genuinely my goat 😔

Support unit of all things

[lost valve]

Honestly it’s better that way

[blazing kite]

And we can have a support with good dps man

[lost valve]

Remember on aa ? He literally was useless

[blazing kite]

Ts gotta be an agenda

I just want him done right somewhere

And I’m coping but if they do ever drop a VF for him I wouldn’t care if they went FULL support route

I just wanna be able to use bro outside of tourneys

And shitfinite

[lost valve]

Power creep didn’t reach his support abilities so that won’t happen

[west wedge]

he is already strong

they are not adding a vf for him

[blazing kite]

He is NOT strong at all

[crystal ginkgo]

He is NOT strong at all

[lost valve]

This is just like vsjw people thinks he should be buffed but he is already very strong as a subdps

[blazing kite]

Strong and support 2 different things

[west wedge]

as a support

lmao

[blazing kite]

This is also not the same 🥀

Sjw is viable always

[west wedge]

guy replied to me with both of his accounts

💔

[blazing kite]

Totally I’m chatting on 2 pcs rn

Gotta push the agenda 🔥

Anything but accepting your wrong

[fleet kite]

vsjw will never be powercrept because of % summons

[west wedge]

what am i supposed to accept

[blazing kite]

Facts

Plus deadeye

Sheesh

[west wedge]

he is already strong a a support unt

[blazing kite]

Always goated

[west wedge]

why would they buff a unit that already is relevant

[raw quest]

open your eyes and accept you wrong

[blazing kite]

I don’t see him as relevant

He’s just

A good support

[lost valve]

When vsjw released he was a meta dps now he is a subdps and his abilities to kill a boss are still good hence why he is still in the uppermeta tier, same goes for Alucard when he released he was a meta dps but now he is used a support and the wounded effect he provides is still very good which is the reason he is a meta support

[west wedge]

he is like

[blazing kite]

Gilgamesh could be considered good

[west wedge]

the best support

other than wr

[blazing kite]

But he’s not relevant

[blazing kite]

[west wedge]

tell me 5 better supports

rn

bro

you cant be serious

[lost valve]

Same goes for the wounded effect alucard has

[west wedge]

oh i forgot smith

[raw quest]

crocodile
haruka rin
unnevo alucard
subaru
kisuke

[west wedge]

ye hes the best after wr and smith

[west wedge]

holy

[blazing kite]

Give us a new unit with wounded 🔥

[west wedge]

im taking a screenshot of this

[lost valve]

Weather report stark katakuri gojo tengen

[blazing kite]

I need alucard powercrept now

[raw quest]

kisuke have wounded

[raw quest]

gojo 😭

[west wedge]

never ever i wouldve thought someone would say kisuke is better than alu

[lost valve]

He fell off hard

[west wedge]

🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

[blazing kite]

Kisuke just has

Wounded not better

[raw quest]

take 10 screenshots and send it to my dms

[lost valve]

I still wonder why sukuna is extremely strong compared to gojo

[west wedge]

literally nobody on this list is better, all of them are outdated

[blazing kite]

my standpoint on alucard is

[outer coral]

He was for a little bit until inf wounded was fixed

[blazing kite]

I either wish he was viable outside of tourney

Or I want him replaced in general

[raw quest]

ik that bro
can't even joke here

[lost valve]

At least he is usable unlike my goat toji

[blazing kite]

😔

[fleet kite]

give us modes with 100+ shields

[west wedge]

also explain how is unevo alu better?

[blazing kite]

Toji VF familiar when

[west wedge]

i actually need an explanation

im not on that level of genius yet

[lost valve]

Paragon was a thing

[raw quest]

mf im joking

[blazing kite]

How did we get here

[raw quest]

💀

[fleet kite]

removed for shittysey😭

[blazing kite]

Bro is a bait consumer

[west wedge]

WAIT

[lost valve]

I don’t want this shit to happen they literally butchered my goat Gilgamesh I would rather like toji to be untouched that to be stained

[west wedge]

i thought you sent the message

[lost valve]

Ong

[blazing kite]

But honestly

[west wedge]

fuck ts is embarrassing take a screenshot of me

[blazing kite]

Toji is UNUSABLE 100%

[rancid sigil]

Bump

[blazing kite]

If they make him actually usable I wouldn’t be upset

[crystal ginkgo]

best shield breaker

[rancid sigil]

Fubuki

[blazing kite]

Yeah man be fr

Shields only a problem in

[west wedge]

anyways

[blazing kite]

Woah get this

[lost valve]

Cause they removed paragon

[blazing kite]

TOURNEYS

I think

[west wedge]

alucard best unit

[fleet kite]

not even tourneys

[west wedge]

best dps best support

[blazing kite]

And the only man who fears shields is Escanor

[lost valve]

Let’s not go that far

[blazing kite]

And he’s alone always

[blazing kite]

He deserves this!!

🔥 🔥

[west wedge]

we ARE going that far

[fleet kite]

the man who will solo the next 6 shieldless updates

[lost valve]

Who is we

[blazing kite]

Give him 1000% damage vf familiar

Make wounded perm

[west wedge]

add a vf that debuffs his range by %50 and removes the wounded effect

cuz he is too good

[blazing kite]

And give him full map nuke 🔥🔥

[west wedge]

wounded is almost perm already

[blazing kite]

Dude what

[lost valve]

With as much damage as a 900 swap cid nuke

[west wedge]

enemies will have wounded effect as long as they are in alu's range

[blazing kite]

Yes

[west wedge]

and he can reach 75 rng with a birb

so i would consider that as perma wounded

[blazing kite]

You telling me

[lost valve]

Birbs are my nightmare

[blazing kite]

You actually upgrade your alucard man

[west wedge]

until fullaoe

which costs like 15k max

[lost valve]

Fr I only upgrd him to upgrd 4

[blazing kite]

He only gets the essentials and not a cent more

[lost valve]

75 range on upgrade 4 ? Only cope

[west wedge]

considering its fully maxed ofc

i dont remember how much it is on upg 4

but mine was like 40+ atleast i think

[lost valve]

But you almost never fully maxed him out

[west wedge]

which is good enough

[west wedge]

i mean i dont need to

guy is asking for perm wounded

im saying there could be a way to make it almost perma wounded

[lost valve]

I mean rupture is permanent so ig wounded should be

[rancid walrus]

"alucard is support unit" bro broly literally does rupture when he crits

Alucard is honestly pathetic now

I got monarch on him and he does like 60k at max

[quiet tartan]

u act like u need support for most things in the game anyways

[quiet tartan]

rupture isnt the same as wounded vro

[rancid walrus]

Am talking about his bleed

Alucards bleed

[quiet tartan]

alucard isn good cuz of his bleed

[lost valve]

he's good because of the wounded effect he afflicts but since it is not permanent it is very limited

[thick mural]

Wounded isn't perm?

[blazing kite]

This is my point

My guy is useless

[thick mural]

Good point man lets discontinue support units permanently

[quiet tartan]

no its just that basically all other units besides escanor, comp units and mvp farm units are useless

until they make something hard theyre gonna stay like that

[thick mural]

So there's this thing called infinite

[quiet tartan]

“comp”

[thick mural]

and support units are a large part of comp so support units aren't useless at all

https://tenor.com/view/cute-emoji-smiley-thinking-scratching-head-gif-17835192

Really don't understand the point you're making at all

[quiet tartan]

my point is that support is useless for 98% of people in the game

[thick mural]

yeah and when they add more hard content like elemental confluence people will either never touch it or only touch it once so that number will not change

Most people just refuse to do hard content when it's added

[quiet tartan]

people refused to do hard content because it wasnt worth it

look at cid raid. people do it because the reward is WORTH it. sad that despite it being easy its still one of the harder things we have ingame

[quiet tartan]

the hard content that we’ve had hasn’t had this big of a gap in power btw

[thick mural]

Guilty Gear EX?

Was impossible to solo on release without Elphelt and was just impossible to solo flat-out after she got nerfed

[quiet tartan]

okay? so?

[thick mural]

your claim about never having a large power gap is just false

[quiet tartan]

did the newest gg units make it so you could solo the ex stage?

did the newest units of 7.5-8.5 make it so you could solo the ex stage?

theres been almost 0 powercreep in terms of enemies

[thick mural]

Reading in the gutter

If a stage is impossible to solo within its release update, it is objectively hard

If a stage NEEDS a unit to solo it, it's objectively hard

[quiet tartan]

wow thanks for pointing out the obvious

[thick mural]

then literally what was the point of your question

[quiet tartan]

the units of 8.0 let you easily solo the stage the units of 6.0 didn’t

[thick mural]

Units from 4 updates later let you beat older content????

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-shocked-stanclickin-tiktok-jd-gif-7319246482023434834

[sick dragon]

They’ve told us we will never get one so you’re just proving his point regardless

Like when was the last time alucard was used in tourney?

he’s not being used in lb runs either bc u get more value stalling the boss

[quiet tartan]

powercreep wasn’t nearly as bad from 4.0 to 6.0 as it was 6.0 to 8.0

enemy strength’s barely been scaled too

[thick mural]

yeah they won't add more because people aint do the shit they literally acknowledge that

[thick mural]

Yeah they literally flat out said the powercreep would be more obvious recently in regards to units like Escanor

6.0 units can still very casually clear 4.0 content with the only exception being rifts because they're intended for multiplayer

even then, it was possible to solo them if you had the right stuff

[quiet tartan]

yeah except the enemy strength hasn’t been caught up at all

[thick mural]

Given that most units are not on Escanor's level, especially without monarch, powercreeping enemies ad hard as they did newer units would just alienate a lot of players

[quiet tartan]

you dont even need escanor bro escanor is on the level of every single unit in meta. escanor’s just for convenience atp

the king even traitless could solo 85% of the game still

[thick mural]

Regular content in the game is not supposed to be trait-centric

[quiet tartan]

ok? i said even traitless he can solo 85% of the game

[thick mural]

Yeah and that 15% is the trait-centric content for higher meta units, like inf and rifts

[quiet tartan]

the game’s scaling for traits is old anyways

they still scale off blitz despite rerolls being incredibly easy now

should scale off deadeye at this point in the game

[thick mural]

My point is that traits aren't necessary at all for a lot of the content

[quiet tartan]

or atleast start to

[thick mural]

Kick people to the dirt if they can't consistently grind yeah?

Good plan for keeping the game alive

[quiet tartan]

lol ur just stupid

u really think

deadeye isnt obtainable

for people who dont grind?

[thick mural]

The stupid take is that content should be mythic trait scaled

[quiet tartan]

ur gen a dumbass if u think a pity of 300 trait is hard to obtain when 1 20 day event guarentee it

🤣🤣

[thick mural]

Story at bare minimum should be able to be completed absolutely traitless

[quiet tartan]

its scaled around deadeye, doesnt mean its impossible to do otherwise

[thick mural]

Scaling the game around mythic traits would gen be braindead

[quiet tartan]

yeah because increasing rr gain but not increasing scaling at all is totally reasonable

ur an idiot bro

increasing rr gain ten fold but keeping the old scaling system

[thick mural]

Just didn't say that though I'm talking about story

[quiet tartan]

🤣🤣

clown

[thick mural]

Scale end game content around mythic traits I could not care less

Story should not require any traits

[abstract tiger]

newbies have to get monarch to actually play 🙏

[rancid sigil]

Would be peak

Imagine them crying in gen1 that they can't beat the new stage