Buff ethereal?

[ornate olive]

people who ask for ethereal buffs are monarch rotted people

mf is in love with guilds

bro still think it will be added

[atomic roost]

[swift quarry]

❓

Your getting a blitz with a strength 4 and range 1 added to it

The best for most high SPA spport

[stiff fox]

it wll

[robust kraken]

Idk if someone said it but just bring more unit who rely on ethreal instead of buffing

[oak merlin]

imagine if guilds were just as boring as damage farming

[stiff fox]

Hey damage farm is fun

[oak merlin]

[stiff fox]

oh ur nether Nvm bro

[oak merlin]

Also that's a lot easier said than done. Monarch will basically always be king unless a kit straight up just makes it worse, like ragna and rimuru

And while they're very healthy units, aren't exactly well receieved

[humble mantle]

I feel like the range could be buffed to 10% its not much but it would give it a slight advantage over monarch on some units

[low sage]

You called it

[normal brook]

10000% damage increase 0 cost and adds a passive that lets u auto win the game

[chilly grail]

Instead add a rare trait called excecute. Excecuting bosses or npc if they have 2 or 3% max Hp remaining

[atomic roost]

hows it boring

it forces you to get the best dps units / team

in order to get into a high ranking guild

where u meet new allies and make connections

[signal osprey]

i wouldnt consider them fully healthy, they are usually the more mediocre though about units of updates

ragna was only looked at positively cuz he was broken as hell (for when he was added at least)

and rimuru was only look at positively cuz he was a non-monarch yhwach alternative

but he fell off cuz enemies got debuff causing mods now which rimuru cant evade

[signal osprey]

yea thats such a boring way to play

promotes literally nothing besides "get bigger damage number"

people would stop using CC units and just go for highest dmg farm / cost dps units

guilds shouldnt just be centered around doing as much damage as possible

[oak merlin]

Making units not require the rarest 0.1% trait to be optimal is a start to being healthier because of how awful traits are in general anyways

[ornate olive]

then we end with horrible bad unit designs like the ackermans

[oak merlin]

ackers slander will not be tolerated

[plush island]

having monarch or not ethereal is a bad trait for its rarity

[smoky arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ellen-joe-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-sleep-gif-15916423237269627652

[craggy flax]

that would be the most pointless thing to ever add to the game

literally more useless than vigor 1

[plush island]

those units usually suck ass or require insane setup

always with the fucking blacklist

isnt the suggestion being downvoted enough

suggestions good or bad dont even get picked

[plush island]

dont u mean the opposite

[chilly grail]

Good trait for units that need to Hit the finishing blow

There are units like itadori and there will be surely more to come

[craggy flax]

no, not good period

[chilly grail]

How tho

Better than other suggestion that beg for mythic traits. Having a trait added below mythic should be better

And

[chilly grail]

🦆

[oak merlin]

How often do you get enemies down to that threshold in anything outside of infinites

[lunar iron]

No one’s using this twin 😭

[chilly grail]

That trait should only be optimal for units that need to last Hit a boss.

Maybe a bit to niche

[lunar iron]

what I’m saying

[lunar iron]

almost as rare as monarch for just that? 😭💔

[lunar iron]

Solar still better for most of the supports btw

[oak merlin]

Again, you can't really control leaving an enemy in that execute range for the passive to take effect

It's the same reason why gilg's execute is generally underwhelming outside of infinites

[swift quarry]

Depends on that they do

Say for astolfo youd rather get blitz/ethereal so he can repulse more

[oak merlin]

repulse still has a long lockout

it depends on how the SPA lines up

[ornate olive]

unevo is better

not being able to place multiple times a support unit is stupid

and levi and mikasa doesn't justify it

also mf, a support that ends with a circle aoe

😭

[oak merlin]

It’s almost like his main purpose isn’t explicitly support

It’s just a little side bonus to help out

[lunar iron]

ackers is buns

💔

[ornate olive]

is the only good thing he have.

levi and mikasa are worthless

levi maybe have a niche use idk but mikasa is worthless
her only passive is shit

[dark steeple]

how about nerf monarch?

[sacred walrus]

Impossible de negation

[sacred walrus]

Tahm kench victim 🥰

[fathom monolith]

Just add another trait bro trust another trait is gonna fix the problem bro just another trait

just one more trait and it'll fix everything

Buff Solar, 25% range -> 30% range, how come Ethereal gets to be blitz but better but Solar doesn't get to be Marksman but better

😠

the problem is looking at each trait as a competitor for damage, marksman/solar are made for support units that benefit from a bigger range when applying it's buffs/debuffs (newsman, alocard, haruka rin, etc.)

deadeye is for units whose passives/mechanics revolve around dealing crit damage

ethereal just seems made for infinite solely due to the cost of maxxing 3+ units

[fathom monolith]

Marksman/Solar: For support units that buff the max amount of units or debuff the max amount of enemies (slow, stun, freeze, time stop, etc.)
Deadeye: For crit-based units to deal more damage
Monarch: LOTS of damage with only the cost of 1 unit, useful for progressive gamemodes or costly units in long gamemodes

and Ethereal/Blitz is in a weird place, only use I can see is for infinite/tournament/leaderboards which is cool but locks out a lot of the playerbase (let's be honest, competitive is about 1-5~% of the playerbase), most debuffs have to wait a long time for them to be applied again and there aren't a lot of low SPA units [Rimuru & Ragna & AOT units kinda mid, don't hate]

[manic flume]

indeed

by the way they said they wont be touching traits
and if they change their mind they will have to be VERY VERY careful because players dont like the year-long status quo changing

[oak merlin]

It already is

[fathom monolith]

nuh uh, i need that 5% range

[royal wing]

I don’t like ethereal

What I’m gonna say is deff gonna have mixed reactions

But i don’t see ethereal as useable

Most of the time when units have an argument between monarch and 1 other trait

Monarch wins the community’s vote why?

Because it’s cheaper

That’s always the reason

Broly and sjw are victims of this

Literally nobody wants to max more than 1 of the same unit

now nobody likes ALS but they do have a pretty fair system when it comes to traits

The only thing that differs from overlord to glitched is the actually damage buff

Same single olacement same range same spa same crit same crit dmg etc etc

[oak merlin]

glitched has 15%/5% more range and 50% more crit damage than overlord/avatar.

And it also comes with the +60% money which means it's optimal on farms too

Also the damage increase between them is a lot

[ruby wyvern]

remove twins suggestion perms

[ornate olive]

mf saying random shit

glitch is the best trait for every unit
even for farms

[oak merlin]

The only reason it's kinda fair is because of how easy it is to farm thousands of rerolls

But even then, I still hate that it's the most optimal on farms, it feels so wrong shooting for the rarest trait on a farm unit

[ornate olive]

you can have 20k rerolls and not get a single glitch

[oak merlin]

Oh, I know

[ornate olive]

i hate farming for glitch potion

[oak merlin]

But it's still incredibly easy to farm more. Pity potions is such a silly feature, but tbh, it kinda has to be that way for ALS

if glitched just had that pity always

everything would just have it

[royal wing]

Honestly no matter what anyone says suggestions like these will never be well received

It’s like taboo to even think abt changing the traits in this game

Or at least the community feels that way

[oak merlin]

So do the devs

The game is way too far along to drastically overhaul or straight up remove traits

[bleak verge]

easy

av a chore bro

i aint spending 1/4 of my day for 100 rrs 💔💔

[craggy flax]

"als" and "fair" in the same sentence

[oak merlin]

then dont

[untold shard]

who is forcing you

[bleak verge]

the game

to have any fun in it

thats why i stopped playing at upd 5

[untold shard]

you can just log in do events, daily, weekly boss event

and skip everything else

[bleak verge]

and thats already 1/4 day

[iron lotus]

Yeah cuz that’s actually not that short

[bleak verge]

prove me wrong

[untold shard]

how long is your day

[bleak verge]

24h

[iron lotus]

Does bro sleep?

[untold shard]

so that would take you 6 hours?

[bleak verge]

8h sleep, 8h work

on average i eat 1h

thats already 17h

[untold shard]

so you have 7 hours of free time

[bleak verge]

atleast 3h to study

[untold shard]

but doing the events and daily would take you 6 hours a day

[bleak verge]

thats makes it 4

[untold shard]

since the boss rush is weekly so is rift

[bleak verge]

do you want me to spend 4 hours infront of my pc just to get 40 rrs

[untold shard]

so the daily and events would take you 4 hours

[iron lotus]

It really dependent on the event like aizen & obitos are not bad

[untold shard]

maybe you should get off your pc rn

[iron lotus]

Wait u actually play rifts

[untold shard]

i mean you really lack time

[untold shard]

yeah one time when daily resets

[bleak verge]

7 minutes for daily, events are like 30m each

add bounties to this

rifts

and boss rush

[untold shard]

when did i say to add bounties?

[iron lotus]

Oh god I’d jump off a building before touching it idk why I hate rifts

[untold shard]

rift is weekly so is boss rush

you are adding to what i said bc ur wrong

[bleak verge]

didnt

i said it

[untold shard]

.

[bleak verge]

other games to play

then give me the minutes

[untold shard]

yeah so you're adding things on that i said you didnt need to do

[bleak verge]

count it

[untold shard]

you complained you cant get any rerolls without taking 1/4 of your day

[untold shard]

so you have no more arguments?

[bleak verge]

my argument is that i value my time

[untold shard]

then get off your pc

and go to work

[bleak verge]

and i wont play a roblox game for even 1h

even 1h doing the same thing

[scarlet mason]

Do not buff ethereal cuz tengen and cid exist

[untold shard]

you value your time so much yet you have 58,000 messages

and cant spend 1 hour doing the same thing

[bleak verge]

i was qh

[untold shard]

oh the agony i feel for you i cant believe you were forced to type on discord for hundreds of hours

agaisnt your will

[bleak verge]

.

i enjoyed being a qh

[untold shard]

i cant do the same thing for 1h

[bleak verge]

and your point

i rather help other people than play the same boring shit for 1h

[untold shard]

i value my time so much i decided i needed to talk about anime vanguards for hundreds and hundreds of hours instead of playing it bc my time is so valuable

your criticisms of the game fall apart based on what you've said because they are so hypocritical

[bleak verge]

not really what i said but yeah

[bleak verge]

?

[untold shard]

i understand the game feels like a chore rn and ill agree

but you seemingly have plenty of time

[bleak verge]

ok

then check my recent weeks

[untold shard]

and ur just burned out

[bleak verge]

weekly messages

[bleak verge]

yeah for like 3 months

but what does that change

[untold shard]

i quit for around 3-4 as well

after jjk update

[untold shard]

you are too focused on the time aspect and not the game being unfun in its current state

thats what im trying to say

you enjoyed being a qh even though it took alot of time because you enjoyed giving advice

however spending a lot of time on av is agony for you

because its unenjoyable

[bleak verge]

one pretty much adds up to the other

i agree with this

theres nothing to do, only getting rrs

and getting those rrs feel like a chore

[untold shard]

thats true

ive started playing a lot of other games recently while on av

ill just tab out of av and play something else while escanor clears the half hourly

[bleak verge]

i dont even bother with playing av in the background since theres way more better background games out there on roblox

[flint fractal]

throaway trait

oh btw units with 3 placement have about the same dps as one with monarch

atp js remove every single trait besides monarch and deadeye

[merry prairie]

Ehrm no

Fortune exists

[shut patrol]

I would say at most buff the chance to 0.2% or 0.25%

If there’s a new farm in 9.0 might be a good idea to wait to see if Eth is more relevant

[daring leaf]

Dead eye ain't allat, its ironically worse for unbound units than ethereal

[past prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-gif-22886423

[daring leaf]

Yeah cause crit chance from dead eye does nothing if it's already 100 percent from broly

[velvet inlet]

Read the first passive

[daring leaf]

From broly?

[velvet inlet]

Yes

[daring leaf]

That applies only to him no?

Talking about other units being buffed by broly

[velvet inlet]

“All crit chance over 100 changes to crit dmg”

What does deadeye have to do with broly buffing other units

[daring leaf]

"Unbounds"

[velvet inlet]

yeah but whos using eth in 2025

its always deadeye or monarch

[daring leaf]

Eth is decent tbh

[velvet inlet]

yeah on some units

[daring leaf]

Its 1.2 x 1.2

[daring leaf]

For unbound its turning 200 percent damage to 250

But the mult is more valuable

[daring leaf]

Unless I'm wrong here

[velvet inlet]

Yes

Why would a passive on 1 unit apply to other units

[daring leaf]

But even then the dps is really close if it does convert to damage

[velvet inlet]

deadeye is better than eth even with broly domain

cause of the crit dmg from the trait

[daring leaf]

Huh

[velvet inlet]

why are u talking to yourself

[daring leaf]

If your base damage is 5

100 percent crit

Crit deals 2x base damage

You do 10 damage per shot

[velvet inlet]

I dont think it does 😭

[daring leaf]

With broly domain bro

[plush island]

was this made with ai