chore vangaurds

[abstract geode]

theyre gonna milk the last utter

[junior oracle]

when he gets his vanguard it better have mahoraga and 3 nukes

[marsh scroll]

3 fucking nukes

[drowsy thunder]

Ive been playing since 0.5 trust me Sukuna got treated like crazy LMAO

[junior oracle]

yes

[marsh scroll]

[junior oracle]

like sjw

[burnt summit]

they better not rename the vf to sukunas toe or smth

[abstract geode]

i have a concept i made and im just biased

so i made him broken

[drowsy thunder]

Its just gonna be a renamed version of Kamutoke

[abstract geode]

and gojo shit

[junior oracle]

waffle slashes, fuga, and domain

[abstract geode]

well i havent even done gojo yet

i hate that guy

[marsh scroll]

waffle slash

[junior oracle]

i dont know what its called

[abstract geode]

fuga is his normal attack dawg

[junior oracle]

it just looks like a waffle

[drowsy thunder]

Friend made a concept where he starts as megkuna and has agito and mahoraga with him, he attacks with him enough then he turns into Heian lmao

[abstract geode]

he pulls the arrow harder so it generates more force

[junior oracle]

this is a waffle

[abstract geode]

mid

frick you

[burnt summit]

[drowsy thunder]

Prob could find it idk

[marsh scroll]

i forgot you the one who go full vanguard monarch

[drowsy thunder]

Mahoraga and Agito were individual units with one passive fully maxed i think lmfao, but disappear on heian transformation

[junior oracle]

correct

[abstract geode]

i had a vs concept where it branched off into gojo or sukuna if u had an ally and sukuna was meguna but if u binding vowed it'd turn him into heian

so

its like

[marsh scroll]

not a single shiny

[abstract geode]

kinda similar

[burnt summit]

hey i have every monarch vanguard and i still choose to use like okarun monarch

[junior oracle]

tengen is shiny and broly is shiny

smh

[drowsy thunder]

My monarchs are not mid fortunately

[marsh scroll]

already did 500 berserk ex stages clear and not a single shiny griffith

shiny hunter is a scam

[abstract geode]

bro gojo is the least interesting character ever

how am i supposed to make passives for this loser

[junior oracle]

i did one night of cid act 2 and got a birb and shiny cid

[burnt summit]

i got 2 on accident

during the event

[abstract geode]

his attacks are even more mundane

this guy just has colors

[drowsy thunder]

Snoring One tbh

[wheat pawn]

make him yujo

[abstract geode]

red circle + blue circle = purple circle

[junior oracle]

make him a crit demon with black flash follow ups

[abstract geode]

bro thats called the aot update

😭

jujutsu titans

[marsh scroll]

itadori deserve his own evo

[drowsy thunder]

I dont want another broly for awhile 🥀

[marsh scroll]

we all love broly

[junior oracle]

thats the joke 😭

[marsh scroll]

WE

[drowsy thunder]

I LIKE BROLY BUT

THE CRIT SHIT I NEED A BREAK

[junior oracle]

i would like broly more if vegeta actually did something and if all the other characters in the update werent crit demons

[abstract geode]

does gojo have telekinesis

[drowsy thunder]

I say this as a mon gogeta haver i need a BREAK from crit units in gen

[spring osprey]

it was 3 crit units

[abstract geode]

he does right

[spring osprey]

you'll be ight

[junior oracle]

when valk finds a new gimmick he just slaps it onto all the units in the update

[wheat pawn]

wdym he's useful
he gets slammed

[marsh scroll]

broly should have worked like invincible vs conquest

non stop attacks

is fucking broly

[spring osprey]

broly coola

[junior oracle]

well

[spring osprey]

✌️

[junior oracle]

broly does non stop attacks kinda

[spring osprey]

he does

[junior oracle]

the moment he does an attack he just follows up with full aoe

[abstract geode]

alright guys its official im making gojo full support

[marsh scroll]

2 years ago

[drowsy thunder]

Like i said its more so cause i have a mon around crit and i just personally prefer other gimmicks LOL

[junior oracle]

yessss full support vanguard

[abstract geode]

all gojo will do is fling enemies back to spawn with his stupid little fingers

[marsh scroll]

broly should have been a full aoe unit with 0 spa

[abstract geode]

and then he pees his pants when he gets stunned and becomes unusable

[spring osprey]

we've had follow ups, summons, meter

[abstract geode]

like the loser he is

[wheat pawn]

make him like guts unevo🔥

[spring osprey]

only previous crit gimmick unit was dante

anyways give us yuta okkotsu

best passion

[abstract geode]

LOL IMAGINE THATS APART OF THE MODEL IF SUKUNA WINS

[drowsy thunder]

i like meter the most but thats i think a controversial opinion lmaoo

[marsh scroll]

it is bro

fuck meter

[abstract geode]

someone PLEASE help me come up with passives for gojo

[drowsy thunder]

Gg update was ass but i did like the units at least 🥀

[spring osprey]

no

[echo depot]

https://tenor.com/view/saber-alter-saber-maid-saber-maid-maid-saber-gif-21975096

[spring osprey]

is that saber

[echo depot]

jalter

[spring osprey]

wait no

oh

[marsh scroll]

make gojo have a slow area like saber alter without debuffing your units
make him deal damage over time to every enemy on his range

[junior oracle]

like i said, crit demon with black flash and follow ups

[echo depot]

its her alter version

otter

[spring osprey]

i didnt watch the rest of the fates

cuz icba

[junior oracle]

slow area sounds just like ALS

[abstract geode]

ugh

[echo depot]

theres a reason gilgamesh doesnt get nerfed when hes around saber or ishtar

[abstract geode]

i cant send it

[marsh scroll]

that should be for itadori

[abstract geode]

\

THIS

[junior oracle]

he is NOT getting an evo

[abstract geode]

is an amazing cover

[spring osprey]

i figured

[marsh scroll]

itadori deserve his own evo

[abstract geode]

yeah cuz hes a little girl

😡

[junior oracle]

didnt someone ask about path evos in q&a

[drowsy thunder]

Yea tbh Itadori should be his own thing

[junior oracle]

and it didnt really get answered

[marsh scroll]

yes

itadori deserve his own evo

he have more aura than sukuna

[abstract geode]

itadoris just a worse broly

wait the passives can be summarized into "extra damage?"

[drowsy thunder]

Unless they include blood manip and his version of shrine lmaoo

[burnt summit]

boxing ring domain expansion trust

[marsh scroll]

if ag have it then every game canc

[abstract geode]

he could be the first melee unit

[drowsy thunder]

Make Choso relevant again somehow with the whole convergence thing

[abstract geode]

since thats all hes good for

[marsh scroll]

make him a evo mat for itadori 🤑

[abstract geode]

honestly it could be interesting to focus on the less obvious choices for his passive

like his soul punch stuff and his flawed or altered techniques

instead of being extra damage passive king

[junior oracle]

choso familiar:
30% slow
follows up with attack 2
buffs unbound units by 30%

[drowsy thunder]

LMAOO

[abstract geode]

choso doesnt deserve to be that good

[odd talon]

Yeah I’m honestly so bored of doing chores, so much so I’ve decided I’ll finally get the rumbling trio

[abstract geode]

10% slow

[marsh scroll]

isn't his ass full aoe

[drowsy thunder]

Yea im ngl i hope they like

[marsh scroll]

💀

[junior oracle]

yeah

[drowsy thunder]

Stop doing that

[burnt summit]

ur really bored then

[drowsy thunder]

I want funny ass gimmicks

[marsh scroll]

full aoe bleed unit that apply slow sound broken as hell

[abstract geode]

what if yuji is also a support

are we tapping in?

[junior oracle]

we cant get any actual cool gimmicks with VFs because theyre made to be lazy

we cant get any actual reworks as said by pyseph

[abstract geode]

gojo and yuji is a support sukuna is the best character in the game forever

[marsh scroll]

gilgamesh np

[drowsy thunder]

I still havent got Ymir LMAOO

[junior oracle]

he doesnt even have a bar 💔

[abstract geode]

too much work to make a counter

just count yourself

dingus

[marsh scroll]

make him challenge enemies like rimuru does

[abstract geode]

what if gojo has a passive that makes him take brain damage from himself

[spring osprey]

already sounds like an als passive

[marsh scroll]

imagine if itadori challenge a group of 10 enemies and if he hit them not only he will do more damage but apply a exclusive debuff to them

[spring osprey]

what if

uh

[abstract geode]

bro als spams

like

"in mode" typa passives

[junior oracle]

we've gotten so far off topic

[spring osprey]

what if gojo applied pressure and fear and crippled and better fear and

and

uh

[abstract geode]

blame otter

[spring osprey]

slow

???

[abstract geode]

otter the LOSER always diverts the topic

[odd talon]

So damage damage and more damage

[abstract geode]

see hes talking about als

[spring osprey]

yeah

[abstract geode]

😡

[drowsy thunder]

I can never get into ALS cause the powercreep i do not have time for that bro

[spring osprey]

burp

[spring osprey]

halloween units already nerfed

[junior oracle]

godlies dont get powercrept for a long while

[spring osprey]

(they released last weekend)

[junior oracle]

well depends on which one

[odd talon]

The power creep honestly isn’t as bad as Evb says if you have relatively good units

You can’t just stop playing for 10 updates and expect to solo everything

[abstract geode]

nagblox

is genuinely

the reason

people are stupid

[junior oracle]

nuh uh

[abstract geode]

he might be the worst cc ive ever witnessed besides ab plays

[junior oracle]

he my goat

oh hell nawl

[chilly flume]

blam spot right there

[odd talon]

He’s not bad but the complaints are defnitly apparent

[odd talon]

Honestly I just let blam do his own thing

[abstract geode]

bro hes the whiniest cc ive ever seen

atleast blam made the worst atd ever even worse

[chilly flume]

King luffy right there

wait actually i forgot what king luffy did

i just dont like him

[abstract geode]

atleast blam contributed

[drowsy thunder]

Hes fine unless he uploads at like night when hes up and complains endlessly cause hes sleepy and grouchy LOL

[abstract geode]

not an excuse bro

[junior oracle]

hes always up late because of bad ATD update times

but thats mostly a timezone thing and not anyones fault

[abstract geode]

he just seems miserable because he plays like 10 million gacha games

[drowsy thunder]

Not saying it is but bro needs to wait when hes actually wanting to be up LMAO

[marsh scroll]

goddess liz fault

blame her

[abstract geode]

idk who the fuck that is bro

[marsh scroll]

newgen

[abstract geode]

bro if im an oldgen to nagblox kill me

😭

[junior oracle]

would you disagree with the video he made about the AOT and GG updates

that got 200k views

[burnt summit]

nag picked up grandcross again

[junior oracle]

and made the devs lock in

[marsh scroll]

he did?

did fucking goddess liz died or what

[burnt summit]

he said hes playing again i think

or im schizo

[abstract geode]

he did not save the game bro i know for sure the dev team spites nag 😭

[drowsy thunder]

plays all these gachas but doesnt play umamusume that actually respects your time LOL

[abstract geode]

i would be in awe if the dev team liked nag

[junior oracle]

the community and nag saved the game

[drowsy thunder]

I got crazy shit and not a DIME has been spent

[abstract geode]

whatd he even say in the video

[marsh scroll]

i missed the live stage where he talked

i feel miserable since that day

[abstract geode]

he complains about it still

and says atd games need to adjust to his timezone

😭

i remember him ranting about it one time

[drowsy thunder]

Idk i just dont put CC on a higher pedestal, they are just people LMAO just entertaining people thats it

[junior oracle]

"youre making characters that just released useless" (due to aot mechanic)
"AOT ex was only beatable with monarch kaguya"

uhhh i forgor most of it cause it was a 30+ min long video from several months ago

but just general things that were making the game not fun to play

[marsh scroll]

he played ad
the only game that he truly invested a lot

[abstract geode]

im sure they already knew that bro they saw the discord when aot dropped

🤣

[marsh scroll]

blamspot and mr rhino: 👀

[junior oracle]

yeah but hes a content creator voicing everyones actual opinions on the update

[abstract geode]

aot was just shit and gg wasn't that bad people just highlighted the negatives

[burnt summit]

HEY DONT DISS RHINO

[junior oracle]

well "everyone" as in the 15k people remaining cause the update was shit

[burnt summit]

rhino is the one who’s actually suffering

[junior oracle]

gg was pretty bad

[burnt summit]

bro is actually dying

[abstract geode]

i will die by the hill that gg was an overreaction because people got mad naruto wasnt the one to come to the game

[junior oracle]

pvp didnt work

the main focus of the update

[abstract geode]

bro were you guys playing av in hell

😭

pvp worked fine for me

[junior oracle]

one of the main unit was locked behind pvp

[chilly flume]

mr rhino isnt bad its just the way he talk

[abstract geode]

evil av

😭

[marsh scroll]

that is enough for me

[burnt summit]

ive played since release so

[marsh scroll]

i hate his voice

[junior oracle]

pvp as a whole even when it works was shit

its not worth playing

[abstract geode]

bro hop on happy av bro the only time pvp queue was fucked is when the games dead

[chilly flume]

mr rhino comes here and asserts his dominance 😳 ☠️

[marsh scroll]

i can make a tier list of worst cc voices

[junior oracle]

nobody knows or cares about the characters and the ones that were good got nerfed to the grind

so

[marsh scroll]

and mr rhino will be n1

[burnt summit]

do it

[abstract geode]

baiken was top 3

her grind was worth it

[junior oracle]

nothing was worth grinding for
pvp didnt work and nobody liked playing it

[burnt summit]

the grind itself was not worth my time tbh

[junior oracle]

and thats not even talking about ex

nobody likes ex

i only like the berserk one

thats fine

but gg ex is dog shit

[abstract geode]

cuz u can solo it with escanor

🤣

[junior oracle]

correct

[abstract geode]

its alright bro we already know your viewpoint on this

[drowsy thunder]

Berserk EX is good i agree

[abstract geode]

no point reiterating it

we know u have dumb takes its alr its alr

[burnt summit]

aot ex is also not that bad

[junior oracle]

ITS ASS

[odd talon]

It ain’t but it def takes some prep

[abstract geode]

av players when my regen boss needs bleeding

[odd talon]

I’m trying to beat it now and I don’t got enough rn

[marsh scroll]

worst cc voices:
1.Mr rhino
2.Toadgame idk what else
3.Navyxblox
4.Blamspot
5.Pery
6.The cheap copy of mr rhino i forgot his name

[drowsy thunder]

Took abit of strategy but it was meh

[odd talon]

Bleeding don’t even do anything just do yourself a favor and get rupture

[junior oracle]

toad game has the worst voice ever

[drowsy thunder]

Me and my friend could beat it with the double gogeta kaguya strat for the crystal boss

And using blast dimension

[marsh scroll]

worst cc will always be blamspot

[abstract geode]

idk why people complain about having to evo 1 or 2 units to do aot stages as if grinding essence stones isnt literally the easiest thing ever

[drowsy thunder]

But the fact we needed two mon vanguards to beat it is funny

[junior oracle]

top reason aot ex was shit, if you had invested time into the units for the past 3 updates beforehand (besides monarch kaguya) they were useless in the ex stage

[marsh scroll]

grinding for units that are only good in one stage doesn't sound fun for many people

the only time i used aot units was when the ex stage appeared on bounties

[burnt summit]

why do i have to un ackers my ackers

[junior oracle]

the only unit i liked in the AOT update was armin

hes the only unit that will have value for a while

[drowsy thunder]

Yea tbh i agree i still use that guy LOL

[abstract geode]

frieza exists 😭

naw im jsp

[junior oracle]

frieza is actually good unlike the AOT units 💔

[abstract geode]

fuck frieza tho

[marsh scroll]

zeke is better alone than with the other 2 rumbling characters

[drowsy thunder]

The mechanics with EX sucked as well

[abstract geode]

i dont see an issue with it bro

[junior oracle]

ackers are better unevolved

[abstract geode]

the updates take three weeks

[drowsy thunder]

The range debuff

Summons etc

[abstract geode]

you can grind those essence stones back easily

[marsh scroll]

tell me other unit that is only good for one stage and that is dogshit in everything elae

[junior oracle]

no stage in the game makes your characters from only an update ago useless and make you have to grind for the new ones

[marsh scroll]

is not the resources
is the feeling of wasted time

[burnt summit]

cha hae in jeju island trust

[junior oracle]

difference is she was good on release

[abstract geode]

what time have you wasted from just leveling up a unit and getting the takedowns to evo him

[marsh scroll]

doing the legend stages to evo them

which on release was a nightmare

[abstract geode]

takes an hour at most

[marsh scroll]

because for some fucking reason the devs give normal enemies blinded

[junior oracle]

monarch kaguya and vsjw were the only way to make AOT ex bearable on release

[abstract geode]

learn how to strategize bum

[marsh scroll]

still time and could take longer if rng wasn't on your favour

[abstract geode]

whats the minimum you get from a legend stage

[marsh scroll]

1

[junior oracle]

even if i "strategize" with the aot units theres still a chance of losing because you only could win with RNG

[marsh scroll]

i fucking got 1 in every aot stage

[junior oracle]

theres a chance for the crystal spawn next to your units

but when its not

you lose

its RNG

not strategy

[abstract geode]

if you get unlucky 12 different times thats still around an hour

[burnt summit]

i love the fact u can get 3 on your last run

[marsh scroll]

36 stages

like fuck

have mercy

[junior oracle]

yeah im totally gonna keep playing the update after i lose 12 games in a row that wasnt my fault at all

now do you see why aot was 15k ccu?

[burnt summit]

yall forget 1hr of av is a lot of av for casuals

[abstract geode]

no ik aot was shit

[junior oracle]

then what the fuck are you arguing against us for

when you know we're right

[abstract geode]

im saying that evoing 1 unit to complete stages isnt that bad u guys are just crybabies

or get monarchs lol

[burnt summit]

[abstract geode]

if u dont have monarchs then evo 1 unit

[junior oracle]

no one was gonna play 150 stages for eren either way

[drowsy thunder]

Okay no?

10 Pity clears

[abstract geode]

then dont

[drowsy thunder]

LMAO

Thats not bae

Bad*

Not bad at all actually

[junior oracle]

youre just missing the point

[abstract geode]

or just do the smart thing

and get the units

that were designed for the stage

that are easy to get

and easy to evo

[junior oracle]

ex was not possible to beat for a casual player

if you did stage 3

that would take 150 stage clears

because you need 2 erens for the quest

and the pity is 75

[drowsy thunder]

its possible for a casual you just need a good strategy lmao

[burnt summit]

getting the aot units

[junior oracle]

you played with another person

and you had kaguya

[junior oracle]

i said casual player

[drowsy thunder]

wasnt mom at the time

[abstract geode]

av players just want their units to afk everything

no point arguing

[drowsy thunder]

Ans i got kaguya at 20k flowers

So

LOL

More so im lucky

[junior oracle]

no, i much prefer the direction AV went in to make stages more rewarding

[abstract geode]

the av casuals want the game to be like als but they wont go to als because they're already too far behind

[junior oracle]

i didnt 🥭 the broly update or berserk stages, they were actually fun to play and complete

[drowsy thunder]

Ion know i didnt think the ex stage was that bad personally, it was difficult but it was doable lmao

[abstract geode]

aka he wants escanor to solo everything

you dont need to sugarcoat it bro

we get it

u just want escanor to do everything

[junior oracle]

yes, much better for the game

because the game shouldnt scale to vanguards like how AOT ex did

[abstract geode]

clearing the berserk ex stage is literally just clearing a boss bounty 😭

we are just LYING

out of our teeth

[junior oracle]

how am i lying?

[abstract geode]

or they could scale to easy to obtain and easy to evo units

[junior oracle]

thats what i just said dingus

[abstract geode]

"the berserk stages are fun and easy to complete (because i can afk them or just sit and not think cough cough)"

[burnt summit]

guys we at 30k and als is at 60k

[drowsy thunder]

What one month of no update does to a game

Trust me that will literally drop as soon as AV updates

[junior oracle]

yeah, i said its better for the game to not scale to vanguards.

what did i say that was contradictory?

[drowsy thunder]

Peoplw playing ALS purely cause AV isnt updated

Just like how ALS was popular cause av had shit updates

It will die LMAO

[abstract geode]

aot units all ez to evo and obtain btw

[junior oracle]

i dont play tower defense games to think

i dont play ANY game to think

[drowsy thunder]

i mean paradox games exist some people just like that

Lmao

[junior oracle]

yes because 150 stages is easy to do

[abstract geode]

dont get erin then

[junior oracle]

exactly. i didnt.

[abstract geode]

make do with what you have bud

[junior oracle]

what are you not getting?

[junior oracle]

i have 5 monarch vanguards

💔

[abstract geode]

lol okay

😭

buddys flexing on me like im not better than him

[junior oracle]

i dont think youve ever understood what kind of perspective i was speaking from

im not flexing

im saying i dont care

[abstract geode]

another classic take from thatoneguygb

[burnt summit]

i have every monarch vangaurd and yk whats funny

[abstract geode]

"wow i need a few of the new units to clear this... do i complain about having to get the new ones or do i just get the new ones to complete the stage..?"

[burnt summit]

i enjoy using kakashi monarch rn

[drowsy thunder]

Like i get the fact AOT upd was shit

But the Ex was

Very doable with the units

that were stage buffed

[sleek trail]

There are magros using traitless sjw cha and igris

[junior oracle]

you only could win with RNG

[sleek trail]

that stage was never hard

[junior oracle]

the crystal had to spawn next to your units otherwise you would lose

[junior oracle]

the units designed to beat the stage can beat the stage no problem? what a shocker bro

[sleek trail]

yeah

[abstract geode]

then use the units designed to beat the stage

smartass

[sleek trail]

that’s the point of the stage and stage buffs

[junior oracle]

????????

i think youre just trying to ragebait me atp

what did you think i did when grinding for vsjw?

i used sjw, cha-in, and igris 😭

[drowsy thunder]

So we just gonna ignore Levi? You 100% can stall the boss long enough to destory the crystal wirh him before he reaches the end LMAO

[abstract geode]

this is the same thing with aot

[drowsy thunder]

i know ive DONE IT

[abstract geode]

this is literally the same concept with aot

[thorn tiger]

lack of literacy strikes again in the AV server

[drowsy thunder]

Before i got Kaguya too

[abstract geode]

would you rather grind the stages and use the aot units or grind for vsjw and kaguya to beat aot

[crystal forge]

Chore vanguards

[thorn tiger]

im not arguing with yall rn

[sleek trail]

Not the point

U can do it easily with traitless units

Sjw cha igris and bring croc or something as a slow

[junior oracle]

why is your pfp your thighs

[sleek trail]

they are not my thighs

[abstract geode]

why not

[drowsy thunder]

Like ion know i didnt find the ex that hard but it still felt ass lmaoo, but difficulty of it is like nowhere NEAR gg ex because of the forced players

and the really really really awful mechanic

[abstract geode]

grind kaguya and vsjw or grind the aot units

[sleek trail]

kaguya no diff the stage

[drowsy thunder]

i have mon kaguya and mon vsjw but this was after the update was already done lmaoo

but yea no they diff that stage insanely hard

LOL

[sleek trail]

eh it was fine

[drowsy thunder]

escanor the only mon ive has to hit pity for so i consider myself generally luckt

[slow jackal]

isn’t that shiny archer?

[keen meteor]

It's a skin

[slow jackal]

for who?

[keen meteor]

Saber I'm assuming

Maybe not actually? Skins don't usually show elements and level

[slow jackal]

he has archer pose

[keen meteor]

Maybe that's the new fate dev unit

Surprisingly low quality if so

[keen meteor]

Archer isn't holy is he?

[slow jackal]

no

[keen meteor]

Then that's not archer skin

[slow jackal]

either that’s just a placeholder pose

or they just recycled archer pose

[keen meteor]

Better be a placeholder model too

It looks so mid

Mainly just the face

So blurry even compared to the super old fate units

[frozen vessel]

we can see the sword in the back its archer another fucking fate update

[slow jackal]

archer isn’t holy

they probably finished the model but havent done the pose yet

[keen meteor]

We already knew there was going to be another fate unit

[wise aurora]

bump

[warped cliff]

bro js dont play the game

ur not forced to grind av 24/7

[frozen vessel]

fate vanguards

[mossy oar]

this is facts

We waste multiple rerolls if we don’t hop on, and they’ll probably keep doing the same repetitive quest and it’s insanely boring

Vanguard familiars should’ve been a rare thing not something that happens consistently

[lapis bobcat]

chore?It isnt something youre obligated to.

[keen meteor]

its not "wasting" if you dont obtain them in the first place, wasting them would be spinning on a farm for a mythic trait

not obtaining =/= wasting

you can only miss them

[mossy oar]

no it is wasting

[mossy oar]

I’m practically forced to get these rerolls, these events are meant to be tempting so their ccu stays constant

[keen meteor]

you arent using them because you never got them

[mossy oar]

I know the definition????

[keen meteor]

therefor you cannot waste them

[mossy oar]

oh no duh

[keen meteor]

waste means you must already have them in the first place

[mossy oar]

I fear you’re missing the point on what I’m trying to say

[keen meteor]

and spend them unwisely

you can waste an opportunity but you cannot waste rewards you never obtained

opportunities are just that, potential to benefit

[mossy oar]

I’m wasting getting rerolls because the game is dry as hell

This shouldn’t be hard to understand

[keen meteor]

and that is entirely your fault

[mossy oar]

The game is dry wdym it’s our fault 💀💀

Nobody wants to keep hoping on doing the same repetitive quest

[keen meteor]

its your fault if you dont do the 40 minutes of effort a day to get 40 rrs

[keen meteor]

a lot of people do actually

[mossy oar]

“A lot of people” check the ccu LmAO

[keen meteor]

extremely low effort for high gain

[keen meteor]

more than we had after the GG and AOT updates

[mossy oar]

again it doesn’t matter if it’s low effort

It’s repetitive and boring

Pls read

[keen meteor]

ok?

they arent going to change that

[mossy oar]

Ok?

[keen meteor]

they are MEANT to be repetitive and boring

they are literally meant to be "slop filler content"

[mossy oar]

Lie again

they’ll easily change it if people complain abt it

Just like how everyone was complaining about the aot update and they had to release a announcement abt it 😂

[keen meteor]

quite literally

[keen meteor]

they already did change it once

yet people are even more angry with that change

[mossy oar]

giving a random ass tester screenshot msg

Pls I’m crine

[keen meteor]

fact of the matter these events will never be "fun"

15 days of daily content never will be

[timber cargo]

bottom 1 suggestion oat

[paper rapids]

Why would it be a skin

[keen meteor]

shhhhhh miso

it was a lapse of judgement

[radiant bane]

i don't know why people think they're forced to get the rerolls

[mossy oar]

Be so serious

[gloomy bear]

he meant

"go to waste"

and it's obvious

he meant that

but ur being a dork

[keen meteor]

still doesnt "go to waste" if you never obtained it in the first place

[gloomy bear]

yes it does

search up "go to waste meaning"

[keen meteor]

you missing an opportunity does not equal wasting resources

[gloomy bear]

search it up

"be unused or expended to no purpose"

thanks

[keen meteor]

yes, you are doing that to the opportunity

not the rewards

[gloomy bear]

thats what he meant so stop nitpicking

[keen meteor]

obviously not

cuz i even said that and he didnt correct me

[gloomy bear]

bro obviously

[keen meteor]

and regardless, they wont make it any "easier"

[gloomy bear]

english isnt his first language

or some shit

he just didnt get it

u know what he meant tho

so stop acting stupid

[keen meteor]

there are a lot of people who are just plain stupid

you forget this is a roblox anime tower defense's discord server

there are 14 year olds in here

[gloomy bear]

theyre going to makeit less boring

[keen meteor]

no they wont lol

[gloomy bear]

yes they are

they already tried doing that

[keen meteor]

they are meant to be slop easy to make content

[gloomy bear]

no no no

[keen meteor]

making them "fun" would make them harder to make

[gloomy bear]

ur not getting it

they did the 25 stage bs

they realized it was too boring

so they made aizen and obito

a little different

theyre going to do more

thats just the start

[keen meteor]

and then people hated the aizen and obito ones even more lmao

what

[gloomy bear]

Okay bro

becasuse that one

u cant do oddysey for

[keen meteor]

💀

[gloomy bear]

thats the difference

theyre going to

add osmething else

[paper rapids]

Thats not the major reason people hated it

[gloomy bear]

thats more fun and less time consuming more likely

[keen meteor]

people complain just to complain jesus

just either do them or dont

[gloomy bear]

that definitely is why

[paper rapids]

Its because you couldn’t grind other vfamiliar/event quests while doing the obito one

[gloomy bear]

wel thats another reason i guess

[keen meteor]

people dislike the aizen one too btw

[gloomy bear]

bro the aizen one

[paper rapids]

Really?

[gloomy bear]

isnt good becuase i gotta fight yhwach

that shit is so annoying

[paper rapids]

I haven’t seen anyone complain about it on the dc

[keen meteor]

yea the reason is deadass just cuz they cant do them all at the same time in odyssey

[paper rapids]

Honestly understandable

[gloomy bear]

just know theyre going to add something thats more fun to do

while being less time consuming

[paper rapids]

“Fun” and atd

[keen meteor]

they asked for something to change, got the change, then complained about the change

[paper rapids]

[keen meteor]

classic ATD players

[gloomy bear]

the change was ass bruh be honset

honest

and nobody shouldve expected their first change to be perfect either

theyre gonna do some shit trust me

[keen meteor]

i dont dislike it

[gloomy bear]

this upd is huge bro no way they dont

[keen meteor]

its still easy

[paper rapids]

Rebel

What are we thinking on this

[keen meteor]

buddy is getting his hopes up for no reason

[keen meteor]

i do NOT want cha to get a vf imma be entirely honest

[paper rapids]

[gloomy bear]

No bro

😭

lowkey just dont even

do vanguard familiars bro

like maybe once an update

they did it3 times in 1 upd bro

like thats crazy

[keen meteor]

i'd change that 3rd mission though

portals are all seasonal

[paper rapids]

Its a suggestion for the future doesn’t mean it has to be implemented now 🥹

[paper rapids]

Alr

[keen meteor]

u shouldnt link seasonal content to vf obtainment imo

[paper rapids]

Any recommendations on what to change it too

[gloomy bear]

wait for radiant grace

the last passive

im confused

so its always gonna proc?

[keen meteor]

ok ive only read the first passive so far

but you should add a duration to that "counter debuffs" thing

if its just countering 1 debuff, thats useless lol

make it like 2 seconds with an 8 second local cooldown

[gloomy bear]

wouldnt u want her to not have high crit chance

[paper rapids]

It does not proc on debuffs

[granite walrus]

Nobody listen to rebel all he do is rage bait

[gloomy bear]

if she follows up with attack 1

?

[paper rapids]

Status effects are stuns, snare etc

[gloomy bear]

and it crits anyway

[keen meteor]

2nd one is good, might be a bit boring just cuz affection only buffs cha's dmg not both of them (not to mention vsjw is getting shifted out of meta)

[paper rapids]

Its attack 1 which is the trade off

[gloomy bear]

read the last part

it says

attack 1

which also crits

[paper rapids]

Mhm

[keen meteor]

right, forgot about the stupid wording the game uses

[paper rapids]

Thats indeed what it says

[gloomy bear]

so then u just proc the passive bro

[paper rapids]

Yeah?

[gloomy bear]

brodo U not see

[heady hinge]

What does it even mean to tank status effects

[gloomy bear]

what im saying

[keen meteor]

i'd say remove the execute and instead have it just be a base dmg amp, along with adding a cap to the upgrade reduction

[gloomy bear]

u take it for another unit

so if another unit gets stunned

[keen meteor]

like "if the enemy is under 50% health, do 20% more damage"

instead of a 5% execute

[gloomy bear]

ur cha gets stunned instead

[keen meteor]

significantly more useful that way

[heady hinge]

Cha is already stun immune tho

[paper rapids]

Yeah so she just eats it

And counters

[gloomy bear]

then she'd just be immune to stun and take it

[keen meteor]

i thought it was the unit that was supposed to get stunned that counters?

[paper rapids]

If chan tanks an status effect for a unit, said unit will counter too

Both just counter

[keen meteor]

im also not sure how much i like the 3rd passive being dependant on not critting

when she crits a LOT

[paper rapids]

Her max crit rate is what?

Its like 70% or smth ar max with deadeye

[keen meteor]

20% base, 35% against bosses
35% base with the vf passive 1, 50% for bosses

add in a mediocre birb at 20% crit rate

wait no

[paper rapids]

I mean you wouldn’t be able to use bird tho?

[keen meteor]

forgot

vf

yea

stupid things dude

"lets just take up the familiar slot cuz hehehaha"

and right yeah she has the base counter in her kit

why do they give holy units stun immunity bro

💔

[paper rapids]

Ok so things to change:

1. mission 3
2. Radiant grace execution

[keen meteor]

yea that sounds about right

the rest is all solid

[paper rapids]

Ok thanks gangster nation

[keen meteor]

well actually

that 2nd part of the 2nd passive

giving sjw the esdeath heart thingy

its pretty meh

[paper rapids]

What would you change

I personally like it

[keen meteor]

withouth maho or whatever its called it doesnt benefit vsjw at all

this

[paper rapids]

So make it benefit both sides

Right

[keen meteor]

yea

[paper rapids]

K

[keen meteor]

some sort of mutually beneficial thing is much better

@ me when u post the suggestion so i can star it

[paper rapids]

K

Thank you for the feedback brotato

[keen meteor]

np habibi

[junior oracle]

you forgot to add a limit to her upgrade cost reduction

i wouldnt complain about having a free unit on my party though

[keen meteor]

thats part of passive 3

[keen meteor]

literally lol, place her, let her get 100 1 shot kills, and shes free to max

a bit too op

at least griffith takes 8 waves to get going

[paper rapids]

Oh yeah i forgot to write that in

Yeah its supposed to have a cap

[keen meteor]

yeah just make sure to include the part of it being a base damage multi not just a +20%, makes it significantly better that way

(and a 5% execute is literally useless lol)

she doesnt have enough synergy to be in inf teams which is the only gamemode a 5% execute MIGHT be useful (not really cuz bosses are the only threats)

[paper rapids]

I have an idea for the execute replacement

Doesn’t execute activate after the dmg is dealt

It would just make all enemies essentially have 5% less hp

[keen meteor]

which almost never happens anyway...

please tell me one instance of an enemy being left on 5% or less that didnt just instantly die from something else instead

[paper rapids]

Guess thats true

[thorn tiger]

raise from 5% to 8%-10% :clearly:

💡

[keen meteor]

still wouldnt be that useful, a 20% damage amp when enemies are below 50% is way more useful

[paper rapids]

Alr what are we thinking on this

benifits both sides now, execute replaced, mission 3 replaced

[keen meteor]

hey uh...

you do know vsjw has stun immunity right...

unknown and all

[paper rapids]

yeah

[keen meteor]

so then whats the point of that 2nd passive

[paper rapids]

for the counter?

she still eats up the effect and makes him proc a counter

[keen meteor]

i just feel like that'd be a pain to code lol

why not just have it be smth like vsjw gets 1 more mana per kill?

[paper rapids]

eh?

[keen meteor]

she gets the buffs from affection he gets +1 mana per kill

[paper rapids]

i mean i want the buff to tie in with the rest of her kit or make sense lore wise

[keen meteor]

also im not sure how much i like that 3rd passive's follow ups... if you dont crit you're guarenteed to get 3 attacks

maybe remove that last line of "if you dont crit do a follow up that guarenteed crits"

and just have it do no follow up

she's already a crit focused unit, leaning into that isnt bad

[paper rapids]

ok fine

[keen meteor]

he does get stronger when protecting her is all im saying

you could just add in a lil thing that makes it so beru spawns in behind her and attacks every time she does instead

can legit just copy the model and vfx from the elite summon beru

gives her 1 base follow up, with a 2nd if she crits, and beru would obv have full aoe and probably more range than her

fits the lore-wise aspect without being too gamebreaking

beru would obviously upgrade according to vsjw's upgrades too, not hers

[paper rapids]

1. Implement Beru?
2. No more failsafe follow up

[keen meteor]

implement beru in place of affection and the block+counter thing, and then yeah no more failsafe follow up cuz it causes too much to happen

it'd be better to not crit on her than it would be to actually crit lol

[paper rapids]

?

[junior oracle]

what app are you using to make these?

[paper rapids]

procreate

[junior oracle]

is it free? 🙂

[paper rapids]

no

[keen meteor]

i'd say something along the lines of "Beru will have 0.8x dmg and 1.2x spa of Song Jinwu's Stats as base stats (limit of 1 beru per Song Jinwu)"

[paper rapids]

like 10 dollars CAD

[keen meteor]

makes it more balanced

[junior oracle]

and its designed for ipad

FUUUUUUUUUU

[paper rapids]

🆗

[paper rapids]

yeah

favorite app for art and design

super simple and easy to use

[keen meteor]

also im not sure how much "devotion of the blade" fits the passive anymore

it does buff dmg but it also summons beru

[paper rapids]

yeah ill change the title

[keen meteor]

that name WOULD fit the 3rd one though

especially since its focused around additional attacks

[paper rapids]

not gonna change 3rd passive

title

[keen meteor]

fair

im just saying you COULD swap the names

or ig instead of radiant it'd have to be Shadow's

[paper rapids]

what are we thinking on "Heart of the Monarch"?

[keen meteor]

thats a great name for it tbh

im not quite sure how that fits into the dmg increase but eh

maybe you should move the stat increases to the 1st or 3rd passive?

[paper rapids]

shouldint matter to much

[keen meteor]

true

[paper rapids]

Ok final export

[keen meteor]

hold on does that 3rd passive mean that it can chain? just a better version of virgils?

[paper rapids]

wait

not final export

❤️‍🩹

oh my days

[keen meteor]

🩹

[paper rapids]

let me clarify one last thing theeeen it should be done

[keen meteor]

vfs are meant to be quick and easy to add, follow ups, blocking attacks (aka copy pasting code), and reusing models is about as easy as it can get

[keen meteor]

regarless :)

[paper rapids]

oh my days

[keen meteor]

hold on

let me do all the errors

u got some grammar problems there too

[paper rapids]

im to tired bruh

[keen meteor]

When performing a crit, instantly attack again ignoring SPA. This attack can chain but decreases crit chance by 20% until Cha-In doesn't crit. When killing an enemy with a follow-up, decrease all placements of Cha-In's upgrade cost by 1% (50% Global Cap).

should fix all the grammar and spelling errors

[paper rapids]

Ok wallahi NOW the final export

thank you Grammarly premium

[keen meteor]

ok uh

im not sure how much i enjoy that 3rd mission still

[paper rapids]

[keen meteor]

you'd be pretty much forcing people to spend legacy coins unless it just so happens to be the right boss rush

and even then the events last for 15 days...

also you did does'nt instead of doesn't

[paper rapids]

❤️‍🩹

[keen meteor]

and you used two different types of cha's name

first time was Chae

2nd was Cha-In

[paper rapids]

wait what

where

oh

i see it now

yo am i blind

[keen meteor]

xD

this is why we have grammar checkers

we dont need an ALS situation happening

[paper rapids]

how much does the boss rush thing cost

and how hard is it to get

[keen meteor]

its only like 10 legacy coins, but thats super new player unfriendly

well ig completing jeju is too...

[paper rapids]

i mean you still would be able to get the familiar if only completing 1/3 or 2/3 missions right

since it lasts for so long

[keen meteor]

also you should specify that beru only gets spawned in with vanguard sjw

[paper rapids]

alr

[keen meteor]

so maybe just add the "and Igros" part

oh also, make sure to add a period after the "crit damage by 25%" and remove the "and"

the buffs should be an entirely separate sentence from the beru lines

[paper rapids]

is the ingamename for vsjw

Song Jinwu (and igros)

[keen meteor]

Song Jinwu and Igros

[paper rapids]

or no brackets

ok

ok replace mission 3 with uhhh

clear DD, Rift or something else

[keen meteor]

clear DD would be good, just have it be 3 times

oh also make sure its act 6

[paper rapids]

alrighty

[keen meteor]

so 3 act 6 dd, 1 jeju, then 6 stages in general

not too bad

[kindred solar]

make it.... !A 1 HARD STAGE! WIOW

[stable zenith]

The only reroll i actually enjoyed grinding were the elements cause it felt like the units i grinded for were actually needed and rewarded for

[junior oracle]

almost 200 upvotes

[keen meteor]

and it wont be added regardless

this suggestion is literally just asking more effort to be put into each vf, which is the opposite of what they are meant to be

[junior oracle]

yup i know

[paper rapids]

Anymore spelling/ grammar mistakes

[keen meteor]

the name of the event is usually either the name of the unit or the name of the special item :)

[junior oracle]

personally i just dont like those missions

[paper rapids]

am open to suggestions

[thorn tiger]

just sail the seven seas bro

even if it costs money

there's ways to get around that.....

[paper rapids]

yeah i am NOT changing allat

[keen meteor]

i dont suggest having radiant grace as the name of the event nor in the description of it, seeing as how the actual familiar has a passive named radiant grace

[junior oracle]

well i have the money for it

i aint broke

[thorn tiger]

do you need the money more or does procreate

[keen meteor]

also i think u put 2 spaces in between "earn" and "her" in the last 4 words

[paper rapids]

[keen meteor]

:)

[paper rapids]

ill just rewrite it

[keen meteor]

smh

[paper rapids]

so its not radiant grace

[junior oracle]

i just want event stages for the coins like trials or elemental confluence. but thats completely diff

[keen meteor]

got me laughing over here though

please just lmk if it had 2 spaces

[paper rapids]

can't check cuz i merged the layers

so i gotta rewrite it

[keen meteor]

D:

[paper rapids]

😭

[keen meteor]

you ruined my fun

[paper rapids]

was most likely 2 spaces

[keen meteor]

if i dont know for sure then its not fun :(

ill just use a pixel counting software to check ig

[paper rapids]

😡

[keen meteor]

:)

it was double spaced :))))))

[paper rapids]

aint no way

[junior oracle]

hm..

[keen meteor]

honestly im just surprised i could see that

[paper rapids]

procreate is a w investment

[paper rapids]

if you like art

[keen meteor]

ill just stick with paint

[paper rapids]

heck no procreate dreams is a scam

[keen meteor]

my goat

[paper rapids]

😱

Ok there shouldint be anymore big errors now…

[keen meteor]

we'll see about that

1 minute

[paper rapids]

this does not amuse me

[keen meteor]

maam

still the name of the passive in the description

[paper rapids]

new found uhhhh

[keen meteor]

why not just say "Granting her new skills and abilities"

fits in the lore

[paper rapids]

ok habibi

[keen meteor]

its not juju island

its Ant Island

[kindred solar]

"belu" and "bero" in the same line

[keen meteor]

you can remove the "equipped" part of the 2nd mission, its implied

[paper rapids]

already changed that

[kindred solar]

dont see it

[paper rapids]

wait

[keen meteor]

mission 3 the word "Act" should be capitalized

[keen meteor]

these are all still named radiant grace

[keen meteor]

thats BERO

lol

[paper rapids]

ok sorry sir

[keen meteor]

Belu and Bero

[paper rapids]

i was wrong

[kindred solar]

its ok, just pointed out when i was asked to

[keen meteor]

i found more grammar problems :)

:))

miso probably hates me rn

"This unit will tank a status effect for a unit in range (8s Local CD). When tanking a status effect, increase crit rate by 15% and the protected unit will counter for 50% of its damage."

for the 1st passive

[kindred solar]

whats wrong with it

[hexed shard]

Yo I might be dumb but ain’t this crit build kinda just like broly

[keen meteor]

just grammatically incorrect

[paper rapids]

what build up

[keen meteor]

cha was always a crit unit

[hexed shard]

The passives

It’s crit based

[kindred solar]

so?

[paper rapids]

yeah?

[keen meteor]

thats a base passive of hers