chore vangaurds

[junior oracle]

remember when he showed his muscles out

THE POSE ISNT EVEN SIMILAR EITHER BRO

[abstract geode]

what

[maiden ruin]

Remember the golden boots, gloves and belt with the kingdom hearts ass logo

[queen rune]

ah yes i remember when gojo wore a kimono

[junior oracle]

his left hand is in a completely different position

wait

right*

right hand

[abstract geode]

biggest nitpick ive ever seen

[junior oracle]

i pointed other things out

that arent nitpicks

it looks nothing like him at all

[queen rune]

since when did gojo have red in his outfit lol

[abstract geode]

if anything thats just a limitation of roblox limbs

[queen rune]

no

[maiden ruin]

did you ignore all the other things

[queen rune]

you can immediately tell the av model is supposed to resemble gojo

you simply cant with the ad model

its not a limitation of roblox

[abstract geode]

yeah bro

[junior oracle]

there is no argument for this looking like hakari

[queen rune]

your intelligence is shining through here, well played

[dusk steeple]

imagine using pooron santa skin

[abstract geode]

av the game that said they wouldnt do custom models vs ad the game that said they would

🤣

[maiden ruin]

that's the dmca dumahh

[dusk steeple]

i have the limited edition luxury suit skin

[maiden ruin]

the high school?

[junior oracle]

did you guys know this was sukuna?

[queen rune]

😭 ✌️

at this point you are ragebaiting

[junior oracle]

i think the only characters in AD i could actually recognize were the one piece units

[dusk steeple]

this one

[queen rune]

gojo looking very dapper

[abstract geode]

sjw units too

[dusk steeple]

bro

bro

bro.

bro.

[maiden ruin]

Gojo has like 5 different models 😭

[queen rune]

sjw non shiny did not look like the character at all

[maiden ruin]

Normal, Shiny, Student skin, Suit skin, Santa skin

[queen rune]

at least the shiny had his shadow monarch armor

igris was decent

[abstract geode]

bro what

[dusk steeple]

student skin?

what is that

i got muted

bro I just got a 3RD MONARCH

on THE SAME BROLY

IHML

[queen rune]

you wouldnt be able to tell if he didnt have his swords

[dusk steeple]

deadeye doesnt exist

yo

[maiden ruin]

Didn't he have an outfit with his student skin?

[abstract geode]

its almost like thats a part of his model

[dusk steeple]

nope

[maiden ruin]

what

bro my brain is fried

[dusk steeple]

he has 4 models

[marsh scroll]

i can't tell which model is that
sukuna got like 5 remodels

[junior oracle]

bro ROLL ON A DIFFERENT UNIT

[dusk steeple]

2 skins normal shiny

[junior oracle]

WASTING YOUR LUCK FOR NOTHING BRO

[dusk steeple]

i need a deadeye on my seocnd broly bro

[junior oracle]

STOP ITTT

[dusk steeple]

plus i got nothign to roll on

i got like 25 monarchs

[junior oracle]

THEN WAIT

THERES 14 UNITS TO GAMBLE ON THIS WEEKEND

[dusk steeple]

but im addicted 🤑

i need the dopamine

[junior oracle]

play ALS

[marsh scroll]

who cares
let bro spin

[junior oracle]

no

[queen rune]

wait

can you actually get 100 rr a day

[maiden ruin]

9.0 ain't releasing this weekend, ain't no way

[abstract geode]

dios gonna be the only good one anyways bro

[dusk steeple]

everytime i roll a monarch in av my heart skips a beat

[marsh scroll]

14 characters = 14 bums

[junior oracle]

yeah

[dusk steeple]

als is just whatever

[dusk steeple]

more than 100

[queen rune]

🤔

[marsh scroll]

i hope they make him shit

[queen rune]

av doing anything to keep players huh

[marsh scroll]

im tired of dio oh being meta in every fucking game

[maiden ruin]

Marksman on him and just use the time stop

[dusk steeple]

you can reach 2 monarch pities monthly at this rate

[maiden ruin]

remember when this suggestion was about av events feeling like chores

[queen rune]

to think this game released with you only being able to get like 5 rr a day

[dusk steeple]

6 rrs max if you were 24/7 available

[abstract geode]

?

[dusk steeple]

what bro hat

whats your question

[maiden ruin]

Cause back then most stages were soloable without monarch and playing with friends was fun & encouraged

[queen rune]

600% increase ☠️

[marsh scroll]

is still the same

[abstract geode]

u cannot only get 6 max

[marsh scroll]

well, excluding the friends patt

part

[abstract geode]

games still the same

you literally only need monarch for the hardest stuff in the game

[dusk steeple]

its all rng but yeah average people were getting for adamantly playing the game at the time was 6 rrs daily

[marsh scroll]

not even one

[dusk steeple]

excluding ahcievemtnts

[marsh scroll]

goblin slayer is enough

traitless

[junior oracle]

well, the quests are annoying and thats why this suggestion thread exists lol

[queen rune]

theres a difference between "i can place and autoclick upgrade one unit" soloable and "i need to micromanage all my placements" soloable

[abstract geode]

it was 2 from daily and 1 every half hour

[marsh scroll]

every?

[abstract geode]

no way you dont get atleast 5 half hour challenges for rrs

[maiden ruin]

SOME people will just say, "bro's complaining about 85 free RRs"

[dusk steeple]

is hk's shiny gonna be hornet

[abstract geode]

technically not

[marsh scroll]

who

[dusk steeple]

or is she gonna be a different unit

[marsh scroll]

who tf is hk

[dusk steeple]

hollow knight

[junior oracle]

ive skipped the obito quest entirely because its annoying 😭

[queen rune]

they are two different chars it wouldnt make sense

[abstract geode]

i mean if u want the rewards just do it

[junior oracle]

i care less about the rewards now that i got monarch broly

i have 5 monarch vanguards now

[abstract geode]

ok thats cool

then just dont do it

[queen rune]

people find it insulting with how much time the game wants to milk out of you

and id agree

[marsh scroll]

sounds like skill issue

easiest quest ever

[maiden ruin]

Obito + Inumaki solos

[abstract geode]

this is the one time i would understand a person saying to just play a different game

[dusk steeple]

my tiny task is currently completing all 25 odyssey runs for me

we got no excuses to miss out on these rrs bro

[abstract geode]

i just do it manually

[queen rune]

im dont want to argue about this but do you find the current game state enjoyable?

[marsh scroll]

i remember people saying that obito quest was impossible

[abstract geode]

it only takes me an hour

[queen rune]

oh youre one of those those

[abstract geode]

no because its been 2 weeks since ive had something to do

[marsh scroll]

obito with rare luffy is enough

[junior oracle]

i use escanor. i want easy completions. i don't play to grind, i play to gamble. and if i don't get them, I DON'T PLAY.

[dusk steeple]

you dont got school or a job

[abstract geode]

❓

[dusk steeple]

im asking you

not telling you

[abstract geode]

i go to school yes

😭

[dusk steeple]

so you do have something to do

[marsh scroll]

escanor moment

[abstract geode]

what are you talking about

im talking about in the game

[dusk steeple]

im unemplyed and a super senior so no, i dont have anything to do

[abstract geode]

also how is this even an argument

[dusk steeple]

heh, normie

[marsh scroll]

the fuck is that emoji

[queen rune]

super senior in the grand 2025

crazy

[dusk steeple]

just because you dont have enough testosterone doesnt mean being a super senior is bad

sissy liberal soft hands

[abstract geode]

what does sissy liberal soft hands mean

[junior oracle]

dont worry about it 😭

[dusk steeple]

blue haired bubble whisker

city slicker lacky boy

[junior oracle]

bros just typing shit

[dusk steeple]

this is maga vocabulary

[marsh scroll]

say it

we want to know

[dusk steeple]

you wouldnt understand it you colorful haired canadian

just so we're clear im not offending anyone right

[paper rapids]

🥹

[dusk steeple]

we know how moderation works

[abstract geode]

thank god they won

[junior oracle]

NOOOOOO

NOOOO

ITS BAD THEY WON

[abstract geode]

@grok is this true

[dusk steeple]

at first I was rooting for trump but atp im thinking Kamala was a better pick

[marsh scroll]

what

[junior oracle]

i have many opinions on trump and if i were to say them id be banned permanently

[abstract geode]

we get it bro u like him

[dusk steeple]

i cant vote anyways yet so thats good

[marsh scroll]

ok bum

[junior oracle]

fuck no

[paper rapids]

did not care about politics was to busy studying fate

[marsh scroll]

we know you do

[paper rapids]

😴

[abstract geode]

lmao

[junior oracle]

fate is life

[dusk steeple]

trump isnt exactly bad in terms of presidential reign but some of his decisions and policies are so ass

[junior oracle]

he should be impeached

[abstract geode]

what

[junior oracle]

🤫

[paper rapids]

are there any "assassins" in demon slayer

[junior oracle]

no

[marsh scroll]

no more politics

STOP

[abstract geode]

whats that even mean lol

[dusk steeple]

the fact that over 2 billion american tax dollars goes to Israel yearly is frightening no?

[junior oracle]

if you mean "assassin" like a hit man then no

demons are in a way assassins

[abstract geode]

no im sayinf wym bad in terms of rpesidental reign

[dusk steeple]

what do you not understand anything I say bro

[marsh scroll]

stop talking about trump

STOP

[paper rapids]

hunter/assassin archetype

[junior oracle]

muzan orders demons to kill specific people sometimes

[paper rapids]

i need one more unit to include in my suggestion

[dusk steeple]

as in he knows how to use his authority properly and govern with strength

hes not a "weak" president

simplified

[queen rune]

freeloader stop freeloading

[abstract geode]

he is a weak president but im not saiyng why here

[echo depot]

goat mentioned

[junior oracle]

what suggestion?

[dusk steeple]

not objective but im sure you got your reasons

i still dont really like trump that much either way

definitely an upgrade from sleepy joe at least

[paper rapids]

was gonna do a seasonal banner concept, 1 unit for each season

but for reasons i had to scrap 2 of the units cuz they are probably coming next upd

[wise aurora]

bump

[paper rapids]

so im just pivoting to assasin/hunter archetype characters

[abstract geode]

hn

[paper rapids]

The better version

[dusk steeple]

idk biden looked pretty clueless

[echo depot]

that is NOT an assassin class theres no way

[dusk steeple]

it wasnt him making most of the nations decisions

[paper rapids]

first hassan is a goat

[dusk steeple]

you cant really deny that

[echo depot]

is he in fgo

[paper rapids]

yeah

[echo depot]

i see

[abstract geode]

just go dms

[paper rapids]

you will see him in Camelot and Babylona

[junior oracle]

well id say any demon fits this role, kokushibo and akaza especially. but obviously akaza is already in the game and kokushibo would be getting done dirty by being a exclusive unit apart of a seasonal event banner, unless he was the vanguard

[paper rapids]

its not a season banner thing anymore just unit in general

[junior oracle]

ah okay

[chilly flume]

miso beef are u back on aba

[paper rapids]

heck no

[junior oracle]

ABA is some hot mid

[chilly flume]

No its not

[paper rapids]

4k+ hours 🤞🏻

[chilly flume]

Scared of the arena

[paper rapids]

on that god forsaken game

[junior oracle]

it couldnt have been this good bro

[marsh scroll]

sounds like someone is mad over a madara user

[junior oracle]

i dont even have 1000 hours on fortnite and ive been playing for 7 years

[paper rapids]

its fun, not good

[chilly flume]

😄

[junior oracle]

the game looked like poop and played like poop. however i last played it like 2+ years ago

[paper rapids]

i earned all my X's by playing manually

🥹

[chilly flume]

someone 100% died to a madara user

wow

[marsh scroll]

3vs3 ranked is meaningless icl

[paper rapids]

the core system is like one of the best combat ive seen in a 3d pvp game

the unit balacning however...

[chilly flume]

no noob

1v1s are meaningless

3v3 and 2v2 better

[paper rapids]

if everything is broken, its balanced

[chilly flume]

aba is amazing

[paper rapids]

aba is life

just not rn

[marsh scroll]

not anymore since limbus company

[chilly flume]

bruh that game cant be fun

[paper rapids]

heck no

[chilly flume]

dropping 5 characters in 1 update

was so peak

[paper rapids]

Ricardo stole the show ngl

[chilly flume]

YO NO

NO ONE WANT RICARDO

[paper rapids]

i love that guy

hes cool

[chilly flume]

Punch

Kick

when are we reworking sjw

[paper rapids]

never

[marsh scroll]

toji*

[chilly flume]

no bellion??

[chilly flume]

err

[paper rapids]

i would play aba but the servers are fucking horrible

[chilly flume]

he has a lot of variants

so hes fine

[paper rapids]

i can't play without lagging out of combos and lag spiking whenever using a move

[chilly flume]

maybe ur wifi is bad

[paper rapids]

its not

[chilly flume]

u lag so much when we 1v1

[marsh scroll]

it is

your wifi is ass

[paper rapids]

😔

lemme try to play a 1v1 rq

[marsh scroll]

or maybe you got send to a server far way from your location

[chilly flume]

miso are u in egypt

[paper rapids]

NA

in the great north

[chilly flume]

Bro im in na too

ur wifi just bad

[paper rapids]

no bro

my wifi is splendid

[chilly flume]

500 ping

ok bub

[paper rapids]

horrid servers

oh lowkey

its not that bad rn

[chilly flume]

SO MUCH X

HOLY

67 PING

HAHAHAH

SIIIIIX SEVEN

[junior oracle]

SIIIIX SEEEEEVEN

[paper rapids]

YO

heh

[paper rapids]

silence

[marsh scroll]

image losing 2 lives

massive skill issue

[chilly flume]

ur such a bum

[paper rapids]

i litteraly could not move for a solid minute

[chilly flume]

using sjw

[marsh scroll]

sounds like skill issue

move faster the next time

[chilly flume]

@paper rapids who was enemy using

[maiden ruin]

from 2024 stage

[chilly flume]

noo not mha

[marsh scroll]

what about it

[maiden ruin]

But see that AOT is mentioned and it was possible

[chilly flume]

True

i want mha just for shiga

[maiden ruin]

was looking for some stages and how they tend to retract their statements

[marsh scroll]

was that stage ones with the new or old team

[paper rapids]

simple sauce

[maiden ruin]

idk

[paper rapids]

geto

[chilly flume]

LOL

NO WAY

U LSOT 2 STOCKS

TO GETO

[paper rapids]

kazuma i would absolutely shit on you silence noob

[paper rapids]

hop on rn fool

[chilly flume]

Nah im on the crusader

[paper rapids]

L

[chilly flume]

Miso ur a nice guy

but

your not talking to someone

who will let you talk to them like that

[paper rapids]

😱

[chilly flume]

I will cook u

dont be scared

[paper rapids]

i woop your bomboclat boy

[chilly flume]

Bro

ur like

5 x

[paper rapids]

JdYx36J

[marsh scroll]

i know you won't

[paper rapids]

JdYx36J

join noob

[marsh scroll]

you a good person

[chilly flume]

kazuma dont join

[paper rapids]

don't dodge

were ending this NOW

[chilly flume]

KAZUMA

PLS DONT JOIN

[marsh scroll]

i would join if my wifi didn't got ruined by my dog

[paper rapids]

L excuse

[chilly flume]

yes GOOD JOB

[marsh scroll]

want proof or what
the mf BITE MY WIFI

AND I CAN'T PLAY ON MY PC

[paper rapids]

aint no way

💀

[marsh scroll]

im on my phone rn

my pc is fucked for 2 days

[chilly flume]

yeah kazuma not lying

[chilly flume]

wait isnt kazuma that guy from aba

[paper rapids]

you are excused for now kazuma....

[radiant bane]

They said vfs aren’t cancelling double evos

[chilly flume]

wow

yes

[radiant bane]

Why are we not reading?

[maiden ruin]

idk, ask yourself that, read the parenthesis

[maiden ruin]

it's just a waste of time

[radiant bane]

Read what? ??

Can you clarify what you talking about

[maiden ruin]

parenthesis

()

[marsh scroll]

why the fuck chucky made so many polls

[chilly flume]

YOU DONT QUESTION

THE ALPHA.

THE LION.

THE OMEGA.

[marsh scroll]

time to play brawl stars then

[chilly flume]

let me play let me playy

[dusk steeple]

@radiant bane

[echo depot]

this has been changed

btw

[maiden ruin]

Yea ik

[umbral badge]

it has gotten to the point that i havnt touched any of the events in 6 days

lost 100+ rr but i dont feel anything

a couple months ago i wouldve assumed i was crazy..

[abstract cove]

missed out on 600+ rrs btw

maybe too much

but 500+ most def

[pulsar pebble]

Soultracer 15 rr
Recurring decadence 20rr
Gilgamesh event 20 rr
Obito event 20 rr
Daily 3rr (6 on x2)
Bounty 10rr

Missed almost 450 on 6 days

[umbral badge]

I only skipped the events, I did everything else

[prisma ingot]

fr

[trim niche]

they should make funnier modes

[marsh scroll]

av and fun doesn't combine

[trim niche]

i mean

we NEED late game content

isnt something to boost CCU

its something to keep late game players in the game

[prisma ingot]

bump

[terse vector]

Just give trading

The best end game content trust

[trim niche]

isnt even content

most likely an optional feature

[thorn tiger]

fuck no

[junior oracle]

YES give trading, but thats not endgame content

infact its not content AT ALL

[shy warren]

Fr

[main lodge]

you shouldve skippec everything and done the events

[umbral badge]

Thing is I did everything else afk

I don’t have time to spend over an hour doing stupid event quests everyday during the week, I have things to do like studying and working

[jovial cosmos]

You WILL spend almost 2 hours grinding the event quests every day and you WILL enjoy it

[placid osprey]

Bump cause I don't like the game feeling like a chore

[keen meteor]

takes not even an hour but aight

~23 mins for sand village, ~23 mins for kuinshi palace, ~14 mins for odyssey if u do it right

[neat dove]

You could also just opt not to grind them

Take a break, stop trying to burn out

[abstract geode]

it does not take 14 mins for odyssey

[keen meteor]

Genuine skill issue then

Only takes me 14 mins on avg

[abstract geode]

lmao sure

[keen meteor]

40 sec per stage

U must just be getting bad maps

[abstract geode]

40 seconds per stage getting the fast modifier each time

🤣

[keen meteor]

??

What

Limitless odyssey big man

[abstract geode]

LOL

buddy doesnt even know the method

talking about some skill issue

🤣

[keen meteor]

You're the one who isn't completing the 25 stages in 14 minutes

Whatever strat you're using is obviously worse

[abstract geode]

youre TOTALLY doing 25 stages in 14 minutes

[keen meteor]

Indeed I am

[plain venture]

like normal people do

[gray parrot]

That's truth ain't gon lie

[trim niche]

the game is made to be slop

lol

[junior oracle]

we all knew they are slop

it’s the fact that they know it and want to keep it that way even with so much complaints

[thorn tiger]

they aint changing it bc in the grand scheme of things, the people whom complain abt vfamiliars and lack of difficulty in AV are a minority, unfortunate as that may be. slop always prevails over actual quality, only on roblox 💀

even though they have the opportunity to put more effort into VFamiliars to make them stack up to the quality standard of the rest of the game & the ability to make more optional but difficult content (ex. elemental confluence), i doubt they will

anything for a ccu boost

[abstract geode]

elemental confluence even isnt a good example of endgame/difficult content

[thorn tiger]

imo it is in the sense that

its good end-game/difficult content that is entirely optional to do

which obviously

doesnt really upset the main playerbase

bc all the general community wants is braindead slop content

that they can just shut their brain off in

imo there should just be more end-game/difficult content that is less optional but

AV hasnt really found a firm ground on that front

every time theyve implemented difficult/challenging content, it's fallen flat in some way or been tedious, annoying, etc

imo the jeju island dungeon is the best example of difficult content in the entire game that didnt cost the game any CCU

i wish i could say the same for EX stages

i like them personally but

the community sure doesnt

AOT EX was a little horseshit tho

AOT update grinding in general was horseshit

[queen rune]

jeju isnt difficult, you can technically add a bunch of modifiers to make it "difficult", but the foundational gameplay is still the same as any other stage in anime vanguards

that mode didnt reward appropriately at all for any added difficulty either

[thorn tiger]

not nearly as difficult as it used to be

[queen rune]

it was much more efficient to just afk while keeping the difficulty moderate/light

[thorn tiger]

it was challenging for a good while

[queen rune]

what is the frame of reference here

when did it become "easier"

[thorn tiger]

probably the powercreep of the summer update

[thorn tiger]

this is true

[queen rune]

people had macaronis for it as it was released

[keen meteor]

it wasnt really every challenging tbh...

[queen rune]

you could literally use chae in and igris and ichigo

[keen meteor]

ichigo + yhwach cleared it with relative ease

[queen rune]

the longest standing problem for anime vanguards when it came to difficulty is

1. "difficult" in this game has almost always boiled down to a stage requiring specific loadouts/status effects and gimmicks that require 1 dimensional mechanical activity
2. difficulty has never properly been scaled with an appropriate amount of rewards, instantly degrading any novelty a new "difficulty" mechanic has when people are forced to play through the mode 100s of times with the same gimmick that isnt even satisfying to overcome

[neat dove]

Traits basically invalidate all attempts at making content both difficult and yet still accessible for players to do

[granite walrus]

Can’t there just be like difficulty settings

[neat dove]

It’d require a lot of tweaking and balancing, since the game wasn’t really designed around handling that.

Plus the inherent problem with difficulty settings is that they end up not really being optional if it means better loot

Just look at Royale

[sick crown]

Maybe yall should start scaling events with ethereal

[neat dove]

On release, 50x was meant to be a pipe dream that you only did with a really optimized team and likely in co-op

Then 50x just became the norm because doing any less just felt worse

[neat dove]

Balancing around a mythic trait is a terrible idea

[sick crown]

Nah

Absolute beginners shouldn't be doing new content immideantly anyway

[neat dove]

Because now you’re balancing around a level that most casual or even just unlucky players don’t hit

It’s not about beginners

[radiant bane]

All they keep doing is adding traitless game modes which defeats the purpose of having traits in the first place

[neat dove]

Which is why traitless modes don’t get spammed

[radiant bane]

Yet they managed to do it twice in a row,

[neat dove]

It’s boss events and the berk EX

[echo depot]

yeah

they wonder why people didnt like AOT EX when literally you had to do that or the normal one (which had like a 2% chance for a unit you need 2 of iirc)

[radiant bane]

So really I don’t know what’s their goal is

[neat dove]

boss events which have always been that way

Literally the only “new” things added in recent that have been traitless are the berserk EX and traitless PvP lol

[marsh scroll]

av devs think a difficult stage should include rng which is stupid
every ex stage have the same issue

[radiant bane]

nether, an important question for you do you think the game can survive by being a game resolved for new players only? Or would they need to cut it off and start doing hard difficulty content in the feature?

In order to survive their competitor, als

[neat dove]

Why would they need to survive

[sick crown]

Does als have difficult content?

[radiant bane]

They care very much about their ccu, no?

[neat dove]

ALS appeals to a generally different subsection of the audience

[neat dove]

No lol

It’s just natural that ALS has a lot of players right now because it actually updated

[radiant bane]

But they’re trying very hard to get the players going up?

by releasing these slop contents

[neat dove]

No?

[sick crown]

Omg sooo true

[neat dove]

Events are literally just optional filler

[sick crown]

They literally added vf because of that

[radiant bane]

Ngl nether then what’s the point of adding vf if it wasn’t to get ccu back up?

[neat dove]

It gives players something to do if they really want to keep playing AV

[neat dove]

Again, it’s partially just filler, partially ways to make old units usable again via community votes.

(Except tengen, that one was us lol)

They aren’t designed to be some ccu saving miracle

[echo depot]

why did they even pick tenge

n

[radiant bane]

Movie hype

[echo depot]

tengen isnt even in the movie, akaza was LITERALLY right there

well no

[neat dove]

I don’t know, I don’t think I voted him

[echo depot]

tengen might be in the movie

but he just guards nezuko

hardly counts

[radiant bane]

Akaza don’t have hype

[echo depot]

he is the main villain of the movie

what

[sick crown]

Nobody voted for him

[radiant bane]

Nothing to make his passives creativity

Follow up attacks with what? We didn’t see any in the movie

[neat dove]

That’s because tengen wasn’t decided by community poll

Hence the “except tengen”

[radiant bane]

Who are you hoping the next bp units to be?

[neat dove]

Either way, VFs, as well as events in general are a “hey, are you looking for a reason to log in for a little while and get some stuff instead of just finishing an update and having literally nothing?”

[sick crown]

Ik that gang, the question from before was, why did tengen get picked by the devs for no reason

[neat dove]

Because the testers voted him

[sick crown]

Lol

Goofy ah testers

[neat dove]

Don’t ask me why, I don’t have reasonings

[marsh scroll]

if you don't have glitch in every unit then yea

[neat dove]

I voted obito

[sick crown]

Fr? Might hop on als

Until av updates

[wicked dragon]

ts isnt even that hard

[neat dove]

I mean, I would encourage you

[wicked dragon]

you get 1k rerolls from just codes anyway

with x6

[neat dove]

It makes for an alright waiting room game

[marsh scroll]

6x is a scam

[wicked dragon]

no it isnt

[marsh scroll]

it is

[wicked dragon]

i got glithced naruto johnny and yuta all in like 1k

[marsh scroll]

i always hit pity on als

[sick crown]

Is it hard to start as a beginner?

[neat dove]

Uhhhh

I don’t know how the new player experience is

But iirc they give you an Overlord Garou for the beginner quest line

[marsh scroll]

6x is a scam
deadass every yt i see always reach pity even with 6x and the potion that double the rates

[wicked dragon]

i still dk how the game had 80k ccu tho

[sick crown]

Wow

[wicked dragon]

the upd aint even allat

[neat dove]

That alone probably gets you through story to world 2

[marsh scroll]

why the fuck i even need to get a potion

[wicked dragon]

summer upd was better

[sick crown]

Alr thx

[wicked dragon]

potion lowers your chance

trust

i never use it

[neat dove]

I would say to definitely gun for the Halloween event if you can

Most of those units are very solid to make a team out of to be set with

Not the world 1 variant though, the rewards are piss

[marsh scroll]

halloween event is the saving grace for new players in als
is like the av summer event

you can just die and still get currency

[neat dove]

That’s pretty much immediately where I went to

[wicked dragon]

als new player experience is so ahh that when they added guide, it was their peak ccu iirc

aside from this upd

which also has new player friendly experience

[neat dove]

And now I have glitched on almost all of those units

[marsh scroll]

a fucking overlord garou ain't saving your ass in world 2

[neat dove]

But tbf

I was grinding expedition for a lot of rerolls

[radiant bane]

You saying this because you don’t like the update or you’re just jealous?

[marsh scroll]

the only purpose of world 1 is grinding garou evo mat

[wicked dragon]

tf would i be jealous about?

my roblox game doesnt have 80k ccu waaaaaa

[neat dove]

Last time I touched world 1, I could skip it because rengoku capsules just let me do the trial and go right to world 2

[wicked dragon]

their biggest mistake was not helping the case where if you dont have the best glitched meta units the game was a torture for you

with their last 5 updates

[keen meteor]

gotta love the strat of just grinding for garp and having him carry you through the rest of w1 and the trial 🔥

[wicked dragon]

and having a bad beginner friendly experience

[keen meteor]

that experience is still pretty awful

[wicked dragon]

summer upd still better tho 🤷‍♂️

[keen meteor]

just btw

[neat dove]

Halloween capsules are really good at least

No need to farm caverns

[wicked dragon]

they can progress like

[keen meteor]

thats literally every capsule event btw

[wicked dragon]

5x quicker

if they wanted to

[keen meteor]

they do the same thing every time

[wicked dragon]

mihawk capsules were awful

[keen meteor]

true, story skips are nice

[wicked dragon]

if you would ask me

[keen meteor]

still better than caverns tho

[wicked dragon]

anything is better than caverns

nobody likes that mode

[keen meteor]

just like almost nobody likes current odyssey

nether reference

[neat dove]

Hey man

I did as much I could

[marsh scroll]

caverns are a nightmare for new players

[keen meteor]

this you?

[neat dove]

[marsh scroll]

brandon deciding if als or arx receive the bad updates strike

[junior oracle]

LOOOOOOOOOL

[wicked dragon]

i loved every bit of the grind where i could get 0.5 dark shards every 10 minutes when evolving the ichigo to his hollow form as a beginner 😂

only took me 10 years

[keen meteor]

to be fair he doesnt have nearly as much hype as other units that are in the anni update

[junior oracle]

hes killing ARX to revive ALS

but thats just a theory..

a game theory.

[marsh scroll]

like deadass

these last arx updates are bad on purpose

[keen meteor]

im just waiting for anni update to come out so als goes back down to 30k or lower ccu lol

[marsh scroll]

0.005% for a trait reroll is crazy

[radiant bane]

That depends if the update is any good

[wicked dragon]

how are people playing arx unironically

[radiant bane]

Can’t just rely on the units hype alone

[wicked dragon]

i got to level 5 and suddenly had 15k rerolls with only codes

[keen meteor]

it better be, but even if its mid it'll still mostlikely get 100k+ ccu due to all the free rrs and stuff that we would be getting

[neat dove]

That’s actually my application to being hired as an AV ideas guy

[marsh scroll]

anniversary updates can either make the game better or kill it

[junior oracle]

yes because hollow knight is more hype for the anime game than the anime character thats generated hundreds of millions of dollars

[marsh scroll]

look at awtd

[keen meteor]

good to know, if you get that position i WILL be flooding your dms

[marsh scroll]

latest anniversary update

[wicked dragon]

hollow knight is hyped too

[neat dove]

I WILL be closing my DMs

[junior oracle]

they just gave tengen the familiar instead because akaza is buns and more people invested into him

[keen meteor]

hey...

[neat dove]

[keen meteor]

😎

[junior oracle]

not for this kind of community

[neat dove]

I’ve already got ideas to tweak that doc a bit too tbh

[marsh scroll]

ermm

[junior oracle]

akaza was featured in two very successful movies

[keen meteor]

do tell

[marsh scroll]

yes

[junior oracle]

people like him more

[keen meteor]

get some live feedback rn

[marsh scroll]

bro nobody gives a fuck about akaza

[neat dove]

How do you feel about modifiers being more like items you equip to units?

[keen meteor]

i wouldnt say nobody, but without rengoku it'd be kinda lackluster

[marsh scroll]

thar bum can die in hell

[neat dove]

I’ve been playing another TD that did roguelike just like that with a fair few other elements

[keen meteor]

thats cutting dangerously close to what ALS just did with their stamps thing

[neat dove]

And I like the concept

[marsh scroll]

oh no

[neat dove]

Yeah except you don’t need to sacrifice loot to take a rest point to apply them

[keen meteor]

i get ALS copied AV's odyssey but that doesnt mean we should copy them right back

[marsh scroll]

the only relevant shit of akaza is killing rengoku

his backstory is ahh

[neat dove]

Stickers suck because you can only do one per unit and you have to go to a rest point to equip everything

[keen meteor]

oh i guess on that topic, have you played a game called shape of dreams? a system like that would be really cool

[wicked dragon]

better in the manga

they extended it by alot for no reason

on the movie

[neat dove]

And some of them are bugged af

[neat dove]

Don’t think so, no. The one I was playing was called spillbound

[keen meteor]

OH that game

[neat dove]

I really like a lot of the concepts they have going there

A lot of it doesn’t fit AV well at all

[keen meteor]

yea i enjoyed that mechanic as long as the whole unit level thing and modifier limit is reworked a little

[neat dove]

But I think there’s a few things that could do inspiration with

I could definitely rework those to be more AV accessible

[keen meteor]

itd definitely be cool, not sure how much this community would like it though since it'd require more brainpower than they'd like to use

[neat dove]

Oh for sure

But I think a lot of that brainpower comes more from the other TD aspects they use

Maybe I could make a thing Itches sells that you apply to a unit to equip more modifiers, who knows

[keen meteor]

it'd definitely take a lot of fine tuning, might i suggest making a doc with a list of all the possibile unit modifiers and general restrictions?

[neat dove]

What do you mean? Like unit specific changes?

[keen meteor]

no like the modifiers as a whole, as in if some sort of modifier gives +10% crit chance and the associated name of it

something like this

obviously just example items

also we shouldnt be talking about this in another suggestion lmfao

[neat dove]

Ahh

I mean, I could maybe make one. It would just be the existing modifiers though.

[radiant bane]

@neat dove can I report bugs to you here?

[keen meteor]

i thought it was going the more unit individual item route instead of the modifying the whole team route?

[echo depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1322811300555788301/1426762094958608406/attachment.gif

[keen meteor]

seeing as how spillbound does it that way

[prisma ingot]

w thread

[keen meteor]

hey man u got some free bumps out of it lol

[prisma ingot]

ik 😭😭

doesn't matter atp

devs won't listen

[keen meteor]

well no obviously not

they're MEANT to be chores

[neat dove]

It would yes, but most of the modifiers already work fine as equipable items, they just might need a little buff

[keen meteor]

true

it would still be good to add general stat buffing modifiers though

since we dont have those in current odyssey

[neat dove]

We literally do

military training and adrenaline shot

[keen meteor]

i coulda sworn those were multiplier and not base stat changes...

its been a while since i last played odyssey i might just be misremembering

[heady hinge]

they are base stat

the enemy kill one is multiplier
and affinity

[keen meteor]

ok well there needs to be a range one :)

[neat dove]

fun fact

that's in the doc

[abstract geode]

jeju is the least difficult thing ever

[junior oracle]

yeah but its the hardest the games ever gotten without bullshit mechanics

[topaz hill]

Absolute cinema

[thorn tiger]

exactly

people are missing my point

"it was never hard, you could 🥭 it on release!" ok bro

"jeju isnt difficult" yeah no obviously it isnt anymore 💀

jeju was (as in used to be) genuinely challenging to play manually, especially if you wanted to get as much currency as you could get

[neat dove]

It was?

[thorn tiger]

as a casual player, sure

the stage also lacked the previously stated bullshit mechanics that made other difficult stages not fun to play (AOT stages having that status effect that invalidated almost the entirety of the meta at the time since most of them were bar/meter units)

[topaz hill]

When we are scaling map power level

[thorn tiger]

you didnt have to pay full attention to the stage either so we didnt have a cid raid type of issue with it

[drowsy thunder]

Still doesn't change the fact the VF obtainment method still feels really sloggish even if its just "optional to keep playing" that argument kinda gets defeated by the fact that its NOT optional if it makes a unit upper meta and worth getting regardless of that. (I mean look at Sukuna) It should just be abit more engaging then the way it is now.

Nobody is gonna miss out on a meta dominating unit so no it doesn't really feel optional and it also doesnt FEEL great either to play, Which is very clearly shown by how the community feels

[burnt summit]

the obito one is a step in the right direction i think

[drowsy thunder]

Not really? Its a good step in the right direction for making obtainment more unique but

Its LONGER then odyssey

So for most it feels worse

And if you don't have Mon Obito it takes even longer per clear lmao

[burnt summit]

idk cant say much since ive been smacking namek5 the entire time

but yea vf def are required and arent like “optional” to do

[burnt summit]

my s a a obito from decades ago

[drowsy thunder]

Hence why that argument does not feel realistic to me at all

Gilgamesh is the only "optional" VF unit

[burnt summit]

obito literally just a better and f2p gogeta4

bros gonna join diavolo soon

😔

[drowsy thunder]

Hell hes a f2p escanor too to a degree LOL

Like im sorry but for most players thats not "optional"

So i dont like that being said and its abit of a bleak look for how VF is gonna be in the future

[abstract geode]

hell no

[neat dove]

It very much is optional lmao

[drowsy thunder]

If you are gonna make the grind a chore to do, People will start to get tired of it and will just play something else that respects their time, Its that simple and i hope obtainment becomes alot better

[neat dove]

I haven't gotten a single VF

[granite walrus]

Bro what sukuna is top 2 unit

[maiden pulsar]

its 1 hour of ur day btw, u spend more time being on this thread then complain about not having time to get the familiar?

30 minutes for each event at MOST

[granite walrus]

[drowsy thunder]

And do you have monarch vanguards? You gotta look at this from a perspective of both new and vets, New players defintely HATE this hell i would have if it was introduced back around when i started playing during demon slayer

[abstract geode]

who needs monarch vanguards to clear shit

on AV

[maiden pulsar]

what do monarchs have to do with this u cant even use them in obito quest

[burnt summit]

i have a blitz sukuna btw

[drowsy thunder]

I didnt reply to a specific message wasnt about what you said lmao

[abstract geode]

then wtf r u talking about

[maiden pulsar]

so what do u got to say abt what i said lmao

were literally the only ones in the thread idk who u were talking to 😭

[junior oracle]

if someone started as a new player right now wanted to get as much rerolls as possible, the vanguard familiar events are hell 😭

the main appeal of games like AV is getting "OP" and rolling monarch, those are the most popular videos in the community

[maiden pulsar]

as a new player you shouldnt be going for events

[maiden pulsar]

because u need dopamine and they giving u it

😭

[abstract geode]

it cannot be that hard

[maiden pulsar]

what does that have to do with this

[abstract geode]

to clear 25 stages

[junior oracle]

not hard, just annoying

[drowsy thunder]

Whether you like it or not, You are very much a minority of opinion when it comes to this topic, When most do not like the obtainment method and you also have to consider different timezones as well whem it comes to resets to the progress on the events, For some people its not great, Remember the last time AV tried to appeal to the minority of players? The game started to die and CCU dropped

[abstract geode]

how

[maiden pulsar]

new players do story anyways

idk what hes on

[junior oracle]

just because you dont relate to it doesnt mean other people feel that way. these events have been going on for over a month now, and theyre very repetitive

[abstract geode]

you know their brain is fried fi you think new players should have access to literally everything in the game

[maiden pulsar]

timezones dont matter at all we all have 24h

whats ur point

[abstract geode]

bro theyre literally what allows f2p people to catch up to p2w players

😭

[junior oracle]

nah. fr?

[maiden pulsar]

every game is repeatable lmao wtf ru saying bro

every td game atleast

[marsh scroll]

??
we are ignoring the fact that the updates itselfs were bad not because they tried to appeal a minority because they execute them really bad

none of the ex stages are good

[abstract geode]

as if annoying isnt enough justification to get 85 rrs a day (before)

[marsh scroll]

the gg update was random shit and the most broken update in it game

the aot update was a joke

[maiden pulsar]

thats honestly a skill issue

[marsh scroll]

skill issue?

[abstract geode]

the game died because they appealed to the minority of players in a dumbass way

[maiden pulsar]

u heard me

[drowsy thunder]

They were bad CAUSE of that, Absolutely nobody cared about Guilty Gear so hype was already low and then it got worse with the bugs

[junior oracle]

they gave us the best reroll method ever and theyre not fun. and if you can't tell, all the suggestions these past few days (including one i made) are literally roasting these events

[abstract geode]

the updates were shit because they dont know how to balance it for shit

[abstract geode]

because av players are cry babies

this is the one time where "literally just dont do it" is justified

[marsh scroll]

sure bro
having to pray for good teammates or good boss rng is skill base

[abstract geode]

"wow my resource farm ISNT fun!??!?"

[maiden pulsar]

just have good units its not hard

[junior oracle]

i stopped doing it AGES ago. but i feel bad im missing out on so much resources

[maiden pulsar]

ex stages arent required for anything its a choice to do them

[abstract geode]

bro i need to have fun GRINDING my rerolls so instead of just having dopamine ROLLING, i can have it for EVERYTHING

[marsh scroll]

no
they were bad because they did the update bad
the aot update is the clear example of making everything wrong
the ex stage was optional but the units from the entire update weren't worth going

[maiden pulsar]

lmao

[abstract geode]

TELL ME THIS

IF YOURE GRINDING RESOURCES

ON MINECRAFT

ARE YOU HAVING FUN GRINDING THE RESOURCES

[grand thunder]

Yes

[abstract geode]

OR ARE YOU HAVING FUN FROM BUILDING WHAT UR BUILDING

[burnt summit]

god i hate the gg ex stage

was about to go on a rant

[junior oracle]

im sorry, how are these comparable? 😭

[drowsy thunder]

If its not fun to farm people arent gonna bother grinding for it even if its worth it, Grind is only ever fun if the grind itself is actually enjoyable and thats just how i see it personally

[maiden pulsar]

what ex stage is that

[marsh scroll]

good units doesn't fix the brain of the average av player who decide to not listen to his teammates when they are told of the boss mechanic

[junior oracle]

the thing about "resources" in minecraft is that theyre literally needed to progress

and if you like playing and beating minecraft youre gonna like finding diamonds and what not

[marsh scroll]

and gg ex stage is dogshit
after a retry the fucking spawns become random

[burnt summit]

did u play guilty gear ex on release

[maiden pulsar]

so find people that know how to do then lol its not hard

[echo depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1322811300555788301/1426762094958608406/attachment.gif

[grand thunder]

Do you not expect a very large portion of the game to be fun?

[maiden pulsar]

oh ye i didnt kno gg was guilty gear i thought u meant the rift unit

[marsh scroll]

💀

[maiden pulsar]

we havent had an update in like a month obviously its not gonna be fun

what ru talking about

[marsh scroll]

ig i will have to be more clear the next time

[junior oracle]

THATS WHY NO ONE LIKES THESE EVENTS

WE'RE STARVING BRO

[maiden pulsar]

whos we bro

[junior oracle]

we as in US

[abstract geode]

do you need to build cool stuff on minecraft? no. do you want to? yes.
do you need monarchs to beat av? no. do you want to? yes.
do people have fun mindlessly waiting and grinding for stuff they want to build on minecraft? no.
do people have fun mindlessly waiting and grinding for rerolls to roll on units? no.

[maiden pulsar]

why does ur life revolve around a roblox game

[burnt summit]

i love 25 stages of rng to get top meta unit thats also locked behind broken pvp!

[marsh scroll]

whatever
hard content can work if the devs just make them not annoying shit

[junior oracle]

not reading allat

[maiden pulsar]

just do something else till the update is here

[burnt summit]

this

[grand thunder]

Nah even when they had long times between updates before I still enjoyed grinding for rerolls because there were multiple different ways but events make the entire rest of the game feel useless

[marsh scroll]

like fuck hammer titan
her fucking mechanic is stupid for a ex stage

[junior oracle]

i havent played in over a week

[neat dove]

Okay and

[drowsy thunder]

This would be significantly better if the obtainment wasnt actually a slog, Thats the entire problem, If this is the content after updates people are not gonna enjoy it LOL

[neat dove]

i dont have sukuna evolved

nor do I care to

[maiden pulsar]

then stay off the game why u complaining

[marsh scroll]

nerf sukuna vf

deadass nerf him

[junior oracle]

tester doesnt even play the game

[marsh scroll]

worst shit in game

[junior oracle]

are we cooked

[marsh scroll]

unbalanced as fuck

[abstract geode]

the top meta in question

[burnt summit]

back then

byken

never said now

[abstract geode]

u only needed her for tournaments

[marsh scroll]

deadass vf making the units op as fuck is annoying as hell

[abstract geode]

and comp stuff

[junior oracle]

thats the point of them tho 😭

but

[marsh scroll]

they should be like gojo

[maiden pulsar]

matchmaking wasnt broken back then tho it was working fine

[grand thunder]

It’s supposed to make them meta not the best unit in the game

[junior oracle]

but sukuna being top 2 is literally just valk going "heheh lets make him rule the game"

[marsh scroll]

make them good
not fucking meta broken

[junior oracle]

i dont like that tho

[abstract geode]

use the context of the game bud

[junior oracle]

no those were literally his words

[abstract geode]

there were other reasons

ur just twisting it to be his only reason

[burnt summit]

u gotta admit thats kinda funny its thats the only reason

[marsh scroll]

yea lol

[junior oracle]

yes im making some sort of narrative when im quoting him nearly verbatim

[abstract geode]

valk said he wanted him to rule the game for a bit because he was a disappointment on release and he was promised a vanguard evo

lmao

[drowsy thunder]

He was originally supposed to get a Vanguard evo are we really surprised hes broken rn?

Lmaoo

[marsh scroll]

for a bit

the mf will be meta forever

[abstract geode]

no the fuck he wont bro

[marsh scroll]

💀

[abstract geode]

theres gonna be cheap full aoe units eventually

[drowsy thunder]

Not forever but its gonna take a long time

[burnt summit]

alucard vf

trust

[abstract geode]

sukuna's overrated as shit and i have him shiny monarch

and hes my favorite character

[radiant bane]

nope

the only thing he got going for him is his op early defense

[marsh scroll]

acting like the fact he buff a certain element and a dot doesn't matter aswell

[abstract geode]

a dot is literally just extra damage

🤣

[radiant bane]

dot is trash

[junior oracle]

sukuna at some point will actually get a vanguard

because they can do that now

[abstract geode]

yeah im the one that asked

cuz sukunas my goat even tho hes overrated

[burnt summit]

im gonna call it somehow the vf for sukuna will be bugged and work with the vanguard evo

making him do als levels of damage

[abstract geode]

if its gonna be a different unit that makes 0 sense

[drowsy thunder]

Why do you think they dont rework old unit passives

[marsh scroll]

is av

[junior oracle]

does 1 billion damage

[drowsy thunder]

Spaghetti ass code

[marsh scroll]

nothing make fucking sense

[drowsy thunder]

LOL

If they did that shit would break

[burnt summit]

soul read trust

[abstract geode]

idk ive never seen that game impacting bugs besides the 10x summer currency for like 10 minutes

[junior oracle]

they wont do actual unit reworks, the familiars will just add on to the unit, even if the old passives are dog shit (obito being a prime example)

[wheat pawn]

"after attacking a enemy affected with the status cleave instantly win the game"

[marsh scroll]

obito vf is fun to use ngl

[neat dove]

i wish we could

[drowsy thunder]

Cause again, Spaghetti ass code, Shit would break guaranteed

[abstract geode]

sukuna hater

hes fine where he is

😡

[marsh scroll]

fine

[abstract geode]

theres no reason hes in top 2

[wheat pawn]

nerf broly instead

[abstract geode]

his early defense is overrated

[burnt summit]

nerf okarun his line aoe is too wide

[junior oracle]

i didnt bother going for him because he'd be useless to me

[drowsy thunder]

Sukuna got the dirtiest treatment out of any unit in this game, let him have this for a little bit, Bro was mid on launch, adding burn and bleed barely helped, got robbed out of his double evo lmfaoo

[marsh scroll]

just say that you guys got strike again and were forced to remove the jjk units

[abstract geode]

jjk update part 2 guarenteed

[marsh scroll]

a little lie won't kill people