Adam from Record of Ragnarok

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this is a bit low effort so be warned.

thats kind of it

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[lavish arch]

Familiar will be Eve

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any idea on what she'll do?

[vapid plank]

Doing a mimick unit is complicated, but for that more than mimicking a unit he could instead mimick the enemy's his fighting.
Example, a enemy uses an attack that stuns, well now Adam knows doing that aswell.
The enemy knows debuffing? Well now Adam debuffs aswell (like reducing the enemy's total HP for a set duration)
But my take may be more complicated

[vapid plank]

She would fit to be the kind of cleanse status, like debuffs, if anything, or something related to the Apple analogy

[lavish arch]

Idk. She will buff the unit ig

[wheat field]

well, i can see where you are going with his mimicking stuff but i think the enemies mechanic to units are vastly different it'll be a bit boring and making him mostly situational

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Btw, I imagine this being a wordline unit

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lowkey, i might have made him too broken

[vapid plank]

Her passive Could be "forbiden bite" the unit for whom this familiar is related cannot be forsakened (making It so the unit is not affected by things like infinite tsukuyomi or others, and at the same time mimicking the story where they were forsakened of the holy land for taking a bite of the Apple)

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Anti-debuff? but wouldnt that be a bit too broken?

[lavish arch]

That's why

It's gonna be 1 placement

like monkey king is

[vapid plank]

There are units like skull Knight Who become stronger at response of debuffs, if anything they could make the unit inmune to the first kind of debuff they receive

[wheat field]

if there were to be an adam familiar, his volund valkyrie should fit the bill imo

[vapid plank]

The thing is many units are situational

You wouldnt use skull Knight out of lands of the god's for example

[wheat field]

of course but by this point, it would make him too broken considering with his godeye skill and his overall passive making him essentially futureproof

but i do like the idea

its just that with my perspective of the unit, it would be overkill to add a debuff kind of passive

or familiar in this case

[vapid plank]

Thats why I said familiar, it's complementary but not attached to the unit

There are strong familiars like Bird afterall

[wheat field]

yeah but it's a different story trying to balance the whole anti-debuff thingy

i think it would work in a smaller scale at least

but doesn't completely undermine the whole mechanic thingy

[vapid plank]

Then this could be instead, it's Lore accurate and doesnt cleanse debuffs, just allows you to use units you couldnt before

[wheat field]

i can see that but the problem being is that the familiar is too specific in it's usage. like you previously said, it would work in infinite tsukuyomi but outside of that, there's no use to it

otherwise it would be a vanguard familiar

[vapid plank]

Just like recent dungeon familiar is specially made for bullseye units

There is nothing wrong to have familiars be a one way use

[wheat field]

with chili you can actually use her without being bound to like a very situational thing

but aside all of this, i can see the concept it's just that i dont see how it would be executed succesfully since it is complex

tackling stage debuffs and all

[vapid plank]

Maybe It culd be done to reduce the totality of a debuff like making a -10% strenght become a -5%

Halving debuffs

[wheat field]

that could work

or just effects in general since that would help alot on stun centered units

like kenpachi or

[vapid plank]

And maybe have some extra Kick to it, like increasing SPA for each debuff received (like 5% with a 20% Max stack)

As familiars often have two passives

[vapid plank]

I beleive if the familiar deals with debuffs It should then Focus on that part, if they can do debuffs and effects that's kinda broken

[wheat field]

yeah but for the majority of it, the first passive is the only one that actually does something. the 2nd passive is usually extra element damage than anything

[vapid plank]

Thats why I beleive to do It right the second passive Could be dependant of the first

[wheat field]

true. i can still see how effects would work, it's just the debuff part that is kinda hard to tackle on

[vapid plank]

Like halving the debuff but having that porcentage Given to spa aswell, or half of It.
Like when you receive 10% damage debuff, you receive a 5% instead and a 2.5% spa reduction

[wheat field]

well, i think sooner or later we could see if they did something on that

for now, it's a bit of confusing topic to talk about considering that stage debuffs are vastly different from enemy effects

[vapid plank]

It Could be done like a conversion or making a whole new concept to counter debuffs, Will have to see

[wheat field]

yeah something alike

[vapid plank]

Actually if we take the "apple" example as before, maybe It doesnt have to only apply to infinite tsukuyomi, but also Badibi's Magic or even Gilgamesh enuma ellish. If they make a concept for "forsakened units"

The three of these technically do similar

[wheat field]

they'd have to make a whole system for it then

it's not gonna be a simple stat increase or anything simple

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why unknown over nature

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his attacks are not natural since gods are enigma beings

and being the whole created in god's image

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best dad adam W

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