Vanguard familiars for exclusive units are an awful idea

[meager crane]

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[shy basin]

Dawg js let it happen gang they’re gonna be buns anyways that’s a free 150+ rrs

[split umbra]

ima be fr

i said yes

only cause i think there are too many units to roll on

[hoary thorn]

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[split umbra]

nah

if i say no

then theres gna be more units to roll on

[sick hemlock]

just rerun gilgamesh it wont crash the trading economy trust 🥹

[split umbra]

and less rrs

[sick hemlock]

make this the gilgamesh vf

[hoary thorn]

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[split umbra]

bro dont rerun

just make a new one

[shy basin]

Why 😭 it’s not like they good anyways

[sick hemlock]

idm a new one

[split umbra]

rerunning sets a bad precedent

[sick hemlock]

but rerun + evolution sounds cooler

[split umbra]

just make like archer gilga

instead

[sick hemlock]

u mean caster?

[split umbra]

theres like 3

idk

[noble flare]

For point 2, who said gilg replaced obito

[shy basin]

In that space of time u can get 150+ rerolls by the time a good one comes atleast you’ll be stacked

Legit no downsides imo

[sick hemlock]

i did

[rigid canopy]

you love these posts 😭

[sick hemlock]

i am #1gilgameshglazer

i am the day 1 of gilgamesh and sukuna glazing

[noble flare]

It could've been. Or obito could've still taken longer anyways. It's not like gilg's ruined obito's or anything

[inland breach]

nah they should keep making them

I want my free rerolls

[sick hemlock]

sometimes things happen

things can break

or not work

[noble flare]

Any number of reasons

[open beacon]

no i like exclusives getting familiars since they are more balanced and i do not need to spin on 5 units every update

[noble flare]

Maybe more complex ideas that need coding in and testing

[drowsy ermine]

the only reason people vote yes is for the rerolls

they already said that the vf for limited units will be balanced

[sick hemlock]

honestly i didn't even think gilgamesh's vf was that bad 😭

sure the dps was lackluster

but his vf's 3rd passive is pretty fun and unique imo

[noble flare]

Could've. Could've not. Nothing's for sure.

[drowsy ermine]

fun

fun is when your gilga is useless for 30 seconds

?

💀

[open beacon]

i hate vanguard familiars i hope they get removed from the game forever

glad this one was ass

[drowsy ermine]

@hexed totem

[sick hemlock]

50-60k dps, executes, boss shredder

[open beacon]

he knows that they messed them up and are spamming them unoriginally

[sick hemlock]

400k dps on bosses or smn

i wanna test him in rift

[drowsy ermine]

boss shredde

[open beacon]

they also messed up elemental reactions

[drowsy ermine]

1 every 3 updates

[open beacon]

hoping it was 1 every x.0 like they said

instead of 2 every x.5 and x.0

[sick hemlock]

i would rather 1 per .0 update but more effort

[drowsy ermine]

obito will get a busted familiar that will make us forget gilga exist

[sick hemlock]

or 1 per upd with more effort*

[mellow parcel]

nothing is saving obito with that shitty aoe

buns passives aswell

[open beacon]

atp just add an evo

[drowsy ermine]

tengen

[open beacon]

he is cone

[mellow parcel]

fullaoe on last upg

[open beacon]

no

tengen is too strong

[drowsy ermine]

hell nah tengen is lazy but busted

[open beacon]

gojo is a good example

[drowsy ermine]

not his fault that the devs smoke something when making sukuna vf

[mellow parcel]

wdym by that

[open beacon]

he is meta and he is very good but he isnt completely meta defining and he doesnt buff elements

[sick hemlock]

imo sukuna was fine purely because of how bad he was when he initially dropped

[open beacon]

literally the best vfam design wise

[sick hemlock]

well he wasnt bad

just

soo mid

[open beacon]

awful concept

[drowsy ermine]

mf, did you see the shit he does now

wdym fine

[mellow parcel]

they are adding the element buffs to every new vf atp

[open beacon]

its good cus its domain locked

[sick hemlock]

what was the buff

[drowsy ermine]

how is fine when the unit gain a big massive full aoe bleed attack which he can buff with his debuff he now apply every fucking attack meanwhile buffing himself a 30%

[mellow parcel]

i see nothing but balanced over here

[sick hemlock]

because i had monarch sukuna since day 1 so any criticism and balancing concerns are null

oh i thought u meant it got buffed

[drowsy ermine]

either the devs hide the sukuna vf from the testers or the testers are blind

[open beacon]

yes everyone has

kaguya can only stack one buff though, no?

[mellow parcel]

he prob meant it as

tengen cant buff %60

just because he buffs 2 elements at the same time

if tengen buffed both of kaguya's elements she would get %90 total

with sukuna

too

[open beacon]

best kaguya team rn is kaguya tengen sukuna weather vsjw and speedwagon

[steel anvil]

💔

[mellow parcel]

vsjw

[open beacon]

get sukuna upg 3 tengen upg 8 and upgrade kaguya as much as u can

[mellow parcel]

[hexed totem]

best concept of all time executed horribly

[peak atlas]

drain I’m blaming you

[hexed totem]

why

[open beacon]

imo there is no point when u could just give units double evos and since dmca has no restrictions anymore

[peak atlas]

your glorious sukuna familiar….

[hexed totem]

yeah its for units that don't have a double evo

like alucard

idk wtf they were doing with like

obito

n shit

[drowsy ermine]

send me the suggestion

[peak atlas]

lowkey alucard shiny wouldve fit his evo

but its whatever

[drowsy ermine]

people say good idea bad execution

[hexed totem]

deadass idk why it wasn't

old unit problems ig

[hexed totem]

its locked

[open beacon]

BLAME @hexed totem FOR VFAMILIARS AND BLAME @scenic cradle FOR ELEMENTAL REACTIONS

[hexed totem]

just search "unit-exclusive" familiars

[peak atlas]

YES

[hexed totem]

bro

[drowsy ermine]

you can still link it

[open beacon]

lol

[peak atlas]

Peak

and they made it a shiny

[hexed totem]

can't link shit

[hexed totem]

search "unit-exclusive" and it'll pop up

[peak atlas]

https://discord.com/channels/1205546848035799081/1410622842533580810

[drowsy ermine]

where i see the good idea

is the exact same shit

[hexed totem]

tsk tsk tsk

[drowsy ermine]

no

[hexed totem]

not all can appreciate art

[drowsy ermine]

art

mf

[hexed totem]

M.I.Y.W.C

[drowsy ermine]

your stupid as hell idea caused all it shit

idgaf if the devs were the ones who added it

you suggested a shit that shouldn't have existed in first place

[hexed totem]

bro thats like saying "you made planes you caused september 11th"

??????

[drowsy ermine]

no unit deserve to be meta again

[peak atlas]

this is my fault

im sorry

[hexed totem]

yeah blame @verbal verge

iu mean

[peak atlas]

who

[hexed totem]

@peak atlas

[peak atlas]

💀

[drowsy ermine]

your idea was something that done wrong even slighty could end in chaos

and look what we have now

[peak atlas]

Dear god

you pinged the toshiro pfp

[hexed totem]

not even bro

[drowsy ermine]

wdym not even

[dense drum]

or just release two vfs at once whenever we get a limited, one limited and one not, that way they make up for it + they dont have to hold back

[drowsy ermine]

the image if your suggestion, the familiar is equal or more broken than current sukuna

the stupid need of wanting your old as hell unit back to the meta is one of the most stupid things i ever heard in any game

[sick hemlock]

gng i hop back on and this is what i see 🥀

[hexed totem]

am i wrong tho

[sick hemlock]

what's the context

[drowsy ermine]

you give the recepits and the devs made shit with it

[vocal finch]

Wonder how the event tab is gonna look after all the vf

[drowsy ermine]

deadass annoyed with the idea of vf

everything related to it

is really that but THAT HARD to let the unit die for good

[noble flare]

If people couldn’t spend money on these things, then it wouldn’t be

[queen rock]

isnt that the basis of every gacha game?

old units are bad so u buy new units

[noble flare]

I mean yeah, but AV isn’t exactly the first game to do this idea of VFamiliars

[queen rock]

i havent really played games with it so i cant speak on those but it doesnt seem to be a good idea especially with how the devs are implementing them

[drowsy ermine]

since als bring that shit called ex idk what else, everyone want old units buffs or shit

genually stupid

the only actual suggestion i can call stupid

[noble flare]

Did they do it after we released the gojo and Sukuna equips

Because these are based on DBL’s platinum equips

Oh, wait, they did uh… what was it called

Extreme boosts

I don’t think it’s a bad idea, so long as the units are obtainable

[drowsy ermine]

they were the first ones to do old units buffs but they copy the vf doing it for escanor and dio oh

which is funny because for 2 days you couldn't craft any of them

and only escanor was decent

dio oh was shit

i think they already got powercreep

[lament herald]

Now they are asking for rerun units