Buff/Rework Gilgamesh's familiar and WE NEED VALENTINE (PASSION) VFAMILIAR

[bold solar]

AND TRY AND GET HIM

[tribal cove]

thats the only thing i like abt av i can bring one good unit and a very op unit in case of convienence

[woeful basin]

theyll still get him if they want it ig

but does this mean u can trade vf too

[tribal cove]

nah

[woeful basin]

cause no way they keep an exclusive vf perma

right?

[tribal cove]

i dont thing vf will be tradeable at all

and if they are

then wow they are js gatekeepin more stuff

[runic inlet]

gilgamesh should have never been limited in the first place icl, especially if they were just gonna down the path of never giving special treatment to limited units the way they do non limited units

[woeful basin]

moral of the story

game was fried

is fried

[tribal cove]

very

[woeful basin]

and forever will be

[runic inlet]

he's one of the most popular fate characters oat and they relegated him to unobtainable hell

[woeful basin]

at first it was cool to get

now its just tedious

[tribal cove]

its just annoys me bc there is a exclusive rarity

WHEN TRADING ISNT EVEN OUT MORE OR LESS A YEAR
and whats worse we will not have stuff on the anime
we are bascially trading for fan art/designed units.

[woeful basin]

inv value ig

[wicked isle]

Yea but like, what's 1-3 strong unobtainable units when the other like 20 strong units are permanent units

I think a few strong outliers is fine

[runic inlet]

just add caster gil as a seperate unit honestly and make it so people that already have normal gil can evo theirs into caster gil as an option if they care more about having a good unit over a valuable unit

gil being an exclusive is the biggest waste of potential ever

[wicked isle]

I like how permanently obtainable units are strong

[woeful basin]

that is true

[wicked isle]

Its really great for a majority of the playerbase

[tribal cove]

tbh i think he deserved a vanguard questline or something

[woeful basin]

i just mean this as how his execute would be stupid strong if he had high numbers and hed become like a lb demon

and it can cause for complaints abt not being able to get high end rankings without an exclusive

its all just fucked

furthermore theres way too many exclusives in the game

can we make lb have its own rarity?

[tribal cove]

gilga is alr a demon for lb its js his one passive of execute is the only thing ull bring him for

[runic inlet]

i just want him to not lose his buffs when other units are in range anymore lol

and maybe have his nuke have his attack 1 aoe instead of single target

[woeful basin]

king of simps

😔

[runic inlet]

also feel like applying tethered to bosses instead of stun makes more sense but maybe thats just cope

[woeful basin]

na but

he uses weapons and stabs them

so they slow down cause theyre losing blood

w av ❤️‍🩹

[runic inlet]

i've heard enough now give him bleed and rupture and wounded and cleave

[peak solar]

i propose two changes

1. make his single target np stacks into his attack 1 circle aoe
2. give him unbound ability on placement

😁

[woeful basin]

tbf

wounded on his nuke wouldnt even be that op

wounded

[runic inlet]

replace unbound with not losing dmg buffs for units in range tbh ✌️

[woeful basin]

i mean rupture

😔

[peak solar]

yeah that was kinda stupid

[woeful basin]

just give the guy unknown instead

[peak solar]

i just want him to get buffed by broly tbh

so he'd have a spot on my team

[woeful basin]

once again not possible

needs unbound on default not on placement/passive

[peak solar]

yeah thats

[runic inlet]

i dont think it'd work with broly even if the familiar gave him unbound off rip since its not part of his kit but rather the familiars

[peak solar]

thats why i said that

[runic inlet]

unless they hardc*ded it on purpose

[woeful basin]

placement

not default

[peak solar]

oh yeah

well u get my point

just make broly buff him 😠

[woeful basin]

yeah

just buff broly

make all units get the crit dmg buff

and cri rat

[remote field]

Monarch Dante with broly does more dps than Gilgamesh

[woeful basin]

expectable

"monarch dante with more crit dmg which is his whole thing is stronger than a single unit"

[runic inlet]

needing unbound by default feels restrictive for brolys ability

but im pretty sure they only added that clause because kaguya exists

[woeful basin]

Yup

Itd probably be the best short wave unit itg

[remote field]

Yh but still, u would expect Gilgamesh to act like gilgamesh

[woeful basin]

I mean im more surprised people thought he was gonna be op op

[runic inlet]

i expect gilgamesh to not get weaker when other people are near him because when tf did that ever happen in the anime

[woeful basin]

Besides vanguards and wl

Theres 1 exlusive in broken

[woeful basin]

He wants just women cuz

No men

Change his passive to that

If male unit near he loses dmg

[runic inlet]

just make it so saber and ishtar buff him instead ✌️

[tribal cove]

ah out of topic but js realized rogita buffs jin mori

[woeful basin]

Yup

[tribal cove]

except crit thing

[woeful basin]

Monarch mori people can finally use him in sub 15 / 20 waves

[tribal cove]

nvm he does get crit buffed

[runic inlet]

its time....

ENUMA.... MID!

[woeful basin]

do i finally get sukuna monarched here

[tribal cove]

my god jin mori is busted with teams his like regnaw but a lil better

[woeful basin]

wrong ss

ugh im too lazy to get the other one now

[woeful basin]

100 pheonix shard right there

maxed out birb incoming

[runic inlet]

too late 🥀

whys it so stretched

[tribal cove]

also gt key

dam

3 of us folded

[woeful basin]

i have this thing where

i cant get monarch on top3 units easily

[viral thicket]

And who is this on

[woeful basin]

and i still need to roll off eth on broly

[woeful basin]

sukuna

[tribal cove]

w

i gt mon on sukuna wit 100

[woeful basin]

hangs you cutely

[tribal cove]

and mon on guts 63

[runic inlet]

[woeful basin]

guts is a fraud idc abt him

[tribal cove]

and shiny mon grif with 3-7

[tribal cove]

WHATTT

[woeful basin]

grif is too annoying to use

[woeful basin]

hes like

so inconsistent

and costs so much

[tribal cove]

i use aurin and dont use his ability

[woeful basin]

what does he even do

[tribal cove]

20% more dmg and -10% upgrade cost on placement

[runic inlet]

why do his np stacks just not show then

[woeful basin]

eh

[woeful basin]

shhhh

actually getting information in av is a top secret

[runic inlet]

[paper lodge]

lazy devs

[civic yoke]

Thats highkey lazy yeah

[tribal cove]

youll think they care abt that but they didnt

[paper lodge]

av too busy with fighting the community

[runic inlet]

gotta place my farms 10 miles away or they'll nerf my gilgamesh to below submeta ✌️

[woeful basin]

its like

youd think they would at the very least make his nuke strong

[woeful basin]

cid is just the goat bruh

shame it took to pity for eth

😔

[tribal cove]

ts gt me dead

[runic inlet]

500 rrs to get monarch on cid just to get shiny version a couple days later

[woeful basin]

shiny transfer in question

[tribal cove]

still mid unit imo tbh
his clone doing abt 322k damage too

[woeful basin]

that reminds me

i need to get a good birb and fairy

[woeful basin]

no clone does 615k

[runic inlet]

when im 70 years old maybe

[woeful basin]

clone stats same as base stats

[tribal cove]

no his clone doing the 322k

[paper lodge]

gogeta familiar would go crazy with gogeta blue

[woeful basin]

just doesnt visually change

[runic inlet]

the clone dmg is just visual i think, it doesnt display true dmg

[woeful basin]

^

gogeta is still strong

[tribal cove]

another reason to buff this fodder as vanguard

[woeful basin]

and after seeing gilgamesh

we ALLLLL want to delay this vf

before i see 50% dmg increase on a vf

😭

[runic inlet]

yea i think im good on limited vfs for a while

[stray sonnet]

🙏

[woeful basin]

forever

just give his base unit a small tweak

[runic inlet]

not een 10k dps on placement with all of his buffs maxed, pack it up gilgamid gogeta solos u

[tawny burrow]

Rossidow48

[woeful basin]

and please give the cuzzo immunity

its like

in every game ive seen a good gogeta

he has a form of immunity

[stray sonnet]

Rossid

[woeful basin]

av hes just homeless with numbers

[tribal cove]

w

[woeful basin]

cl

its time to retire

😭 💔

[runic inlet]

just make his instant tp ability cleanse or something tbh

[tawny burrow]

Shame we have a balancer thats biased towards the characters he likes

[woeful basin]

legit

[radiant cobalt]

whats up

[woeful basin]

we have a whole dev team with bias

bound to happen

[runic inlet]

[radiant cobalt]

do you guys seriously think sukuna is strong because of kamui

please say yes thatd be hilarious 😭

[woeful basin]

no

surely not

right?

right????

[tawny burrow]

Because of who?

[radiant cobalt]

surely its not because jjk is extremely popular

it couldnt be

[tribal cove]

can you please put obita in broken tier to snipe his crazy power creep think abt it when he gets

[paper lodge]

bro 143k dps

[radiant cobalt]

wait for his familiar and then he'll get reranked

[paper lodge]

thats one jin mori clone dps 😭

[tribal cove]

w

[peak solar]

so no obita evo 💔

[slender kernel]

8000 messages holy shit this thing was posted only 10 hours go fuck

[woeful basin]

143k single target dps

[tribal cove]

bro ISTG GRIF IS SO ANNOYIN BRO

[woeful basin]

one step at a time ig

[paper lodge]

gilgamesh aint even CLOSE to 1 clone of jin mori

[tribal cove]

ss before he gt sacroficed.

[paper lodge]

his clone is even crazier btw

[tribal cove]

im abt to do it again rn

dam demon sold him bruh

[paper lodge]

they really did gilgamesh dirty

[tawny burrow]

They need to buff this familiar bro

[paper lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ugh-gif-15774357492597497773

[stray sonnet]

They need to give Sukuna 2 familiar slots and give him another vanguard familiar

[radiant cobalt]

mushy with the clutch

[runic inlet]

whats the logic for tengen? demon slayer movie ig?

[radiant cobalt]

hes got a 50% win rate but when he wins it counts

[viral thicket]

Maybe

Akaza would’ve been a bad choice I think?

Shitty AoE

[radiant cobalt]

that and a decent amount of people did actually want a tengen revamp and not an akazo one at least from what i could see in chat

[runic inlet]

yea, just kinda dumb cause im pretty sure tengen is hardly in the movie anyway

[radiant cobalt]

i dont know demon slayer that well, maybe tengen is a bigger mc or something

overall

[runic inlet]

hes fodder at the end

[paper lodge]

his logic sucks ass

if anything gilgamesh is way more hype than sukuna

[runic inlet]

cool character but pretty irrelevant by the time the movie comes around

[viral thicket]

This take is crazy

[woeful basin]

no

ur just wrong ibr

[radiant cobalt]

stop we do not need more bait in here 😭

[stray sonnet]

Sukuna got delayed for a week and when he did come out he was weaker than gojo

[paper lodge]

so what

[runic inlet]

gilgamesh is still rlly hype

[paper lodge]

even tengen gets a decent familiar

[civic yoke]

Yeah but anyone can still get tengen

Even if they didnt play the game back when it was going through some of its worst updates

[radiant cobalt]

he is yeah but not quite sukuna

[woeful basin]

we did read ts right

[paper lodge]

gilgamesh > sukuna for me boi

[runic inlet]

nuke btw

[woeful basin]

gogeta's dps every attack btw

LOL

its ok tho

143k dps per person

[civic yoke]

New gogeta or

[paper lodge]

im so sorry for voting fraudgamesh

[blazing venture]

They made a good decision by not making Gilgamesh super strong like Sukuna ngl

[runic inlet]

i guess hes a decent slow unit? dunno why i would use him over weather report or stark though

[paper lodge]

we shouldve let gogeta win

[viral thicket]

It’s 20% slow

[civic yoke]

Gogeta wouldnt have gotten different treatment either

[viral thicket]

You’d be better off using weather

[runic inlet]

30%

[civic yoke]

Theyre all limited units

[paper lodge]

even crocodile has better slow

[civic yoke]

They shouldnt get buffed to the same extent as regular units

For obvious reasons

[viral thicket]

I disagree

[stray sonnet]

Should've voted pweeny 😔

[runic inlet]

gogeta is a vanguard at least, there's more expectation there for him to be better at least

[paper lodge]

bro all limited gonna be tradable one day

this excuse doesnt make any sense

[viral thicket]

Like okay we get it but literally meta for nothing? So what was the point in giving him the VF in the first place

[civic yoke]

They dropped the "vanguards will get buffs" philosophy a while ago, if he did receive a familiar it would not be way better than gils

[paper lodge]

[civic yoke]

They dont wanna make limited unit VFs too strong

[viral thicket]

Just to spit in our face?

[runic inlet]

i didn't want him to be super strong personally, i just want him to have some use (he doesn't rn regardless of what the devs or anyone says)

[wraith mesa]

Being limited is an understandable claim but think about it being "usable". Like okay he's in the meta tier on the tier list but will anyone be using him on a certain gamemode? No. Even if he gets buffed, no one will replace him against escanor, kaguya, etc.. All we want is for him to be somewhat of a use just like how gojo and sukuna can sometimes be used.

[blazing venture]

I mean his nuke is pretty decent

[paper lodge]

testers and valk laughing at us

[blazing venture]

2 minute cooldown, execute, slow

[viral thicket]

No it’s one of the worst ones

Lmao

Just use gs if you desperately need a boss killer

Execute don’t work on bosses so what’s the point

[runic inlet]

its equivalent to like 1 attack of a modern unit

[blazing venture]

...who is gs

[runic inlet]

goblin slayer

[paper lodge]

even jinwoo weakest nuke is better😭😭

[wicked isle]

Goblin Slayer

[viral thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/goblin-slayer-rage-anime-gif-19313465

[tribal cove]

js missin the giant queen buff for rogitas place

[paper lodge]

jin mori is absolutely busted with gogeta

[viral thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1089562090622177372/1423208246499348502/caption.gif

[paper lodge]

put cheelai on him

[tribal cove]

this is his familiar equipped rn

[runic inlet]

why bother adding them at all if there's no incentive to go for them? especially in this case since they're trying to maintain hype and ccu during a vulnerable time for the game due to delays because of the dmca situation. You cant even make the argument its for old players who already had him monarch, because those players probably already have more monarchs by now that are way more viable

[paper lodge]

nah cheelai is way better

[tribal cove]

he does crit a lot

[civic yoke]

They DONT wanna add them, didn't they already say that? The only reason ts happened was because people kept asking for em.

Past like 2 stages had atleast 5 questions of "when limited unit familiar"

[paper lodge]

they gave us the poll wdym they dont wanna add them

[runic inlet]

then dont host a poll in the first place with only limited units???????

[paper lodge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809806310395871242/1421670679178383420/togif.gif

[runic inlet]

if you're gonna cave in anyway and add them at least make them good

[wicked isle]

They could've always just not hosted the poll if they were so strongly against them to be fair

[paper lodge]

we gilgamesh owners deserve better

[drifting wolf]

should've wasted on someone else

[wicked isle]

They're p used to not listening to the community anyways so it wouldn't be anything new to them

[runic inlet]

why even bother listening to what the community wants if you're gonna give them it in a half assed way anyway

[wicked isle]

That too

[woeful basin]

old

[civic yoke]

Gang old gogeta does not do 100k dps even let alone 220k 😭

[wicked isle]

I also wonder why they couldn't at least push GIlgamesh up to the standards of current day exclusive unit standards

[paper lodge]

he been doing 100k dps

[solemn dawn]

delicate flower bro

[runic inlet]

gilgamesh gets solod by quetzalcoatl

[woeful basin]

from when i was using him he had like 80k dps each

[wicked isle]

Like, they're gonna have the same fate of being unobtainable anyways, so why not make em even

[paper lodge]

they acting like dio oh wont powercreep them all

[woeful basin]

he is tho

hes the 2nd best exclusive

[paper lodge]

js make gilgamesh shine for once

[drifting wolf]

bc they have to baby feed new players to keep high ccu

[woeful basin]

🤔

[viral thicket]

and he's going be limited too

[peak solar]

new players are set bro

[paper lodge]

fuck newgens

[woeful basin]

unless you think merelona is beter than gilg

[peak solar]

mfs have escanor at the ripe level of 15

[viral thicket]

ngl i though they were doing this whole vf concept to drain our rerolls on purpose for the upcoming update

[woeful basin]

hes top 3 atleast

[peak solar]

pmo

[paper lodge]

i been here since the second this game drops

[tribal cove]

man i feel so bad for the peaple that missed out on jim mori.

[drifting wolf]

yes

[viral thicket]

u shouldnt

jin mori is a easy unit to powercrept

[solemn dawn]

age

[viral thicket]

just a dps unit nothing special

very easy to clone

[runic inlet]

literally nothing would change if they made gilgamesh op btw, and i didnt even want him to be op. You can already solo all of the content in this game with like the summer exclusives. The game is already ridiculously easy and the units are already too op

[solemn dawn]

gonna be dogsh in 3 updates 🤣

[runic inlet]

the only people that would be affected by gilgamesh being op is tourney players and lb players, most of whom already have every unit in the game anyway and have been playing since the old days

[viral thicket]

sad thing is he'snot good for tourney or lb players either

cid nukes everything so u got no use for his nuke or execute

[paper lodge]

maybe we could use both

[wraith mesa]

That's the thing, how is gilgamesh being "usable" if you can't even use him anywhere????

[wicked isle]

Even in terms of mechanics he's niche huehuehue

[runic inlet]

being part of any category is pretty unique and having natural damage reduction ignore with more dmg towards dr enemies is nice

[viral thicket]

just use witch/lucy

they both removes it completely while gilga is just 50%

[lost crest]

suggestion still alive

[runic inlet]

im talking about jin there

[viral thicket]

o

[runic inlet]

forgot gil even had dr negation tbh

[lost crest]

I thought it was like

[wicked isle]

Its become a no cd chill people channel

[viral thicket]

yeah nah idk about that

[wicked isle]

Fun stuff

[lost crest]

An anniversary unit can't be meta

[viral thicket]

jin mori was never used for tourney either

[lost crest]

No xp btw

[tribal cove]

i am ligetly testing the limits with jin rn

[viral thicket]

cant be used for lb runs since u cant switch locations

[lost crest]

HOW can they make an ANNIVERSARY unit meta

[wicked isle]

I dont think anyone here cares about discord xp l o l

[lost crest]

I don't get how DIO OH won

[wicked isle]

Well, I sure dont at least

[lost crest]

He has to be assss

[lost crest]

U get perks yo

[runic inlet]

dio oh is gonna be sooooo OP

[lost crest]

U get to know the higher ups

And u get free shit in AV haha

[wicked isle]

Ykw, they should make all the anniversary units buns because they wont be permanent and that'd be bad for the playerbase!!!

[lost crest]

But how

He's a anniversary unit

[tribal cove]

drop the method

[runic inlet]

hes gonna have % dmg and 100 second timestop ❤️‍🩹

[lost crest]

Yeah no

[wicked isle]

Is it just uhh

Image perms and access to higher tier givaways

If so then thats cool and all but I'm guddddddd

[paper lodge]

newgens keep eating while ogs get nothing

[tribal cove]

my friend keeps sayin if he should get into av
bro these new players have no idea how easy it is for them nowadays when av released and having a monarch u were instanlty the pinacle of the community

[soft jetty]

Fr bro

[runic inlet]

the newgens are all braindead ex-als players who will switch up on the game the second it has any sign of a hiccup

most of them anyway

[wicked isle]

All we wanted was for them to modernize Gil, but they ended up giving him the power level of a unit from around 2 updates ago dies

[tepid flint]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787085602549399625/1412804333162074344/attachment.gif

[runic inlet]

gopoopy

[last blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208121918855577700/1423194919115423825/2d418c0bb7d549f7a65cdf4b70f8ca6c.gif

[ocean sky]

nerf gilgamesh

[last blaze]

nerf gilgamesh

[tribal cove]

nerf gilgamesh

[runic inlet]

nerf lfelt

[wicked isle]

:C

[tribal cove]

alr happened man.

[wicked isle]

Yupppp

[tribal cove]

but yea double nerf lfelt

[wicked isle]

Oh

[wicked isle]

:C

[wicked isle]

Remove shotgun loop

Peak Elphelt

[runic inlet]

remove passives

[wicked isle]

Remove her upgrades

[runic inlet]

remove her.

[tribal cove]

man remove the whole stage

[wicked isle]

Hey man, lets not go that far

[wicked isle]

Okay, this tho

[runic inlet]

remove

[wicked isle]

Insert sonic boom knuckles approved

[runic inlet]

bro does gilgameshes single hits even do dmg

i swear the enemies just arent losing hp when i use it

[tribal cove]

enuma?

isnt enuma multihit?

[wicked isle]

The single hits after enuma

[runic inlet]

this

[tribal cove]

think of it like a dot

after or before enuma

[runic inlet]

nvm it is

[tribal cove]

?

[runic inlet]

it applies slow too so enemies are just walking in front of the one thats getting targetted

i couldnt see their hp cause of it

[wicked isle]

I do respect the work on gil tho

Since the chains of enkidu effects are new

And look pretty good

[royal ginkgo]

It was a fan made one you can tell by the passive text on the top

[viral thicket]

yet they forget to add a meter

u could tell it was rushed asf

[runic inlet]

icl if they aren't gonna buff him they at least need to do some tweaking

[wicked isle]

Yeahhhh that's something they need to add

[wraith mesa]

It was trash, the passive was not even given a thought

[wicked isle]

What do you want

[ocean sky]

gilgamesh could of been alot worse which is the sad thing

valk didn’t plan on adding the slow or stun

[tight wind]

Gilgamesh was doomed to failure just because of his passives

[wicked isle]

Cuz I want them to make it so his base kit passive isnt affected by other players units

[ocean sky]

it was kazi’s idea

[tepid flint]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1407095517565030483/1423105294552006709/togif.gif

[runic inlet]

He needs a stacks bar so you can visually see how many hes at and make it so the Gates of Babylon passive at least has the same targeting as gilgamesh himself

cause right now the single target attacks just hit whichever enemy is first in his range

[tepid flint]

From 75k dps to 62k dps this is not saving him

[wicked isle]

Who said anything about saving him

[ocean sky]

they should of done a rerun

with shiny lock

[wicked isle]

He's buns, we've accepted that

[wicked isle]

We just want a few tweaks which he actually does need

[runic inlet]

man this is so poorly done why did they even bother adding this familiar

[ocean sky]

he’s not buns

just not broken

[wicked isle]

Certain aspects

[tepid flint]

A tweak that would have made him excel is np meter dmg would be with his enmua buffed stats

So atleast he can be a better boss killer than goblin slayer

[wraith mesa]

imagine the dmg buff, how was that even fair. Not to mention the stack that just increases his dmg, like that is literally a character that needs to be built from the stage and after building him, what do we get? just a semi-mediocare unit who doesn't even excel or can replace/be a substitute to other units. So where is this "usable" thing that we are talking about gilgamesh? Mediocre placement dmg, costy, built-reliant, and ass vanguard passive overall.

[wicked isle]

If only

But we both know the devs aint doing that huehuehue

[runic inlet]

hes annoying even as a boss killer since his np meter attacks dont target the same enemy as him

[tribal cove]

this is the best i can buff jin

[ocean sky]

jin mori is actually just a worthless unit tho

[wraith mesa]

its bun if its not broken

[ocean sky]

i would rather run gilgamesh

[tribal cove]

real

[wraith mesa]

can you even outdamage anyone using gilgamesh??

[wicked isle]

Ehhh Jin is kinda like Yhwach

[runic inlet]

yea idk abt that bro

jin mori switch up is insane

[wicked isle]

Performs best in their own teams

[ocean sky]

i have jin mori monarch

he’s so over glazed

no immunity

[wraith mesa]

that's the value jin mori holds bro, 2x for rifts, what does even gilgamesh do? does he excel in any of the stages???

[ocean sky]

can’t be replaced

nothing other then dps

gilgamesh has stun and slow

and a nuke

and decent dps

[wraith mesa]

buns stun and slow

[swift hawk]

Someone should like fr get those devs to freaking open there eyes and fix Gilgamesh’s familiar bc on some real shed this is really pissing me off

[wraith mesa]

a nuke that doesnt hit all units in the map

[tribal cove]

tell em urself dawg

[wraith mesa]

and a decent dps

[swift hawk]

Decent right

[wraith mesa]

??????

[ocean sky]

it is decent?

it’s like 70k

[wicked isle]

lol wot

[runic inlet]

holy lag when you use enuma elish and there's a lot of enemies in range btw, since it applies slow to every enemy there's like 100 chains on the map

[wraith mesa]

are we even considering decent to be useful??

what are we, level 100 below?

[swift hawk]

70k is trash today gng

[runic inlet]

70k when you have no other units in range btw

including farms

[wicked isle]

Yeah was gonna say that

[ocean sky]

i said it was decent

[swift hawk]

Exactly

[ocean sky]

never said it was good

[wicked isle]

Farms, other players units, your own units

[wraith mesa]

Think about the people who has gilgamesh, they are playing since fate update and you're expecting that we will settle for something decent??

[ocean sky]

it’s useable considering all the content is scaled for eth

[swift hawk]

It’s not decent it’s trash decent would be 100-120k dps

[wicked isle]

If any of those are in range say goodbye to that already sad 70k

[runic inlet]

hes just inconvenient to use

[swift hawk]

Really is like that

[runic inlet]

a nuke is just glorified dmg btw, and jin mori outdoes his nuke dmg even then

[wraith mesa]

where would u even use him? cid where you have escanor? bounties and challenges where you have kaguya? rifts when you have broly? where can you even use him to his best???\

[swift hawk]

Sadly those devs are just doing whatever the f they want but not what WE want

[tribal cove]

crazy

[ocean sky]

jin mori is just buns

icl

[swift hawk]

It might be hard what I am about to say

[ocean sky]

he’s actually just a worthless unit

[civic yoke]

Did we.. want him to be better than 3 of the top 6 units?

[tribal cove]

now this is js rage baitin atp

[swift hawk]

Exactly that’s why so many people are pissed

[tawny burrow]

✅

[astral willow]

Nowhere. He’s a horrible support, horrible dps and a horrible Nuke. He excels at nothing

[wraith mesa]

we wanted him to be a somewhat replacement to those unts, now tell me, can he become a substitute to them????

[runic inlet]

i dont want gil to be sukuna level but holy PLEASE give him a visual indicator for np stacks, make his NP attacks have the same targetting as Gilgamesh and make it so he doesnt lose damage and range the moment a molecule passes by his range

[astral willow]

Jin Moris raw dmg is quite literally the second or third highest in the game twin

[civic yoke]

Yeah you were deadass high if you thought they were gonna make the 10 month old limted outshine broly in any category

[runic inlet]

if you aren't gonna buff him at least give him that

[swift hawk]

You right he dosent need to but like at least give him the right to at least be useable bc my guys if he was top 6 I would be happy no complaints but he isn’t even top 15

[astral willow]

Gang half the top meta units already outshine broly

He ain’t even that good

[paper lodge]

bring gogeta with him and jin mori the best dps in game

[ocean sky]

he’s mid bro

[civic yoke]

Oh my god 😭 😭

[ocean sky]

can’t be replaced

[wicked isle]

Okay thats a stretch John Smith

[wraith mesa]

Am I even asking for him to outshine those units? or you're too blind to read my question? I am asking if HE CAN BE A SOMEWHAT REPLACEMENT TO THOSE UNITS IN TERMS OF THE STAGES

[runic inlet]

broly is good lowke but he has some yhwach type agenda surrounding him

[ocean sky]

he’s not used in nothing

no tournaments

not lb

[paper lodge]

one clone 💀💀

[ocean sky]

nothing

[wicked isle]

I think a better term is "decent substitute"

[runic inlet]

people who say jin mori is ass just heard he was a dps unit and didnt read his passives

[wraith mesa]

exactly

[ocean sky]

he’s literally used in nothing

[paper lodge]

[civic yoke]

You can beat the stages with him, if thats the metric. If the metric is being better them in a niche, then you were fighting a losing battle to begin with. I understand hes not good but seems like yall were expecting smth like sukuna for some reason.

[astral willow]

It’s true tho. His ability sucks since he costs too much to even place early, and if you’re making a team around unbound it’s only useful for 15 waves. Deadass js use sukuna since he does more dps and has better synergies w guts and other units

[ocean sky]

name one gamemode outside of rifts your running jin mori

he’s genuinely most my useless monarch

[tribal cove]

idk if u saw it earlier but i managed to get a clone buffed up to 1.06m dmg

[paper lodge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1390038115229368500/1419344017573023924/togif.gif

[runic inlet]

you can beat stages with almost any unit in this game atp, there's no difficulty anymore and unit scaling is so far above stage scaling

[wraith mesa]

Stages? you're gonna do challenges and bounties with him? are we even deadass on that

[topaz gate]

8k messages, holy shit this thread has been going strong

[ocean sky]

bro

[wraith mesa]

you can even use a half meta unit for stages

[wicked isle]

Welcome back, wassa

[astral willow]

Yeah bc they violated my boy

[civic yoke]

Takes genuine effort to say shit like "half the meta units outshine broly" with that much pride

[ocean sky]

everything is scaled for eth and deadeye

[astral willow]

King of slows and stuns

[ocean sky]

what are you talking about

gilgamesh could solo like 95% of the content

[astral willow]

It’s true tho gang 😭 realistically speaking he ain’t allat

[topaz gate]

Actually blitz

[ocean sky]

he’s not bad just bad for a vf

[topaz gate]

[astral willow]

He’d be way better if they just kept atleast half his buffs from his domain

[ocean sky]

even worse

[civic yoke]

Please elaborate on what content he should've replaced broly in, im trying to understand how good you thought he'd be

[topaz gate]

How is it worse?

[civic yoke]

Yeah hes just the top 1 unit thats kinda mid highkey

[runic inlet]

stark and gilgamesh applying slow was the hypest of hype moments in both animes 🔥

[tribal cove]

rn im making a simple team for gilgamesh

[astral willow]

Ima be real w you gang broly is not a top 1 unit in anything

[civic yoke]

Do you do tournaments, wl or inf lb?

[astral willow]

Vsjw/kaguya and Escanor do everything he does but better

[wicked isle]

Wouldnt that kinda just be saber ishtar gil smith and two farms

[astral willow]

I do inf lb, not tournaments since that’s just rumbling slop

[wraith mesa]

am I even trying to replace broly? I wanted gilga to become a second option towards other difficult content? In what world are you having a conversation that this is about broly?

[wicked isle]

Or if you wanna just damage stack, Griffith, Smith, Gil, Haruka Rin/Subaru/Esdeath/Any other buffer and farms

[wraith mesa]

Bro is lost

[civic yoke]

What difficult content exactly, keep going

[tribal cove]

nope im bringin rn in the sandbox takaroda smith ishtar grif and delusionol boy or maybe aurin

[shy tartan]

i only have sjw monacrh and Gilgamesh monarch

[wicked isle]

Ah dope, does Cid do anything? I've never fiddled with him b4 so I wouldnt know huhu

[wraith mesa]

I ain't having a conversation with someone who can't even listen, I'm not dumb for that

[astral willow]

Fee bad for bro

[tribal cove]

i dont understand peaple that bring 2 farms ESPECIALY THE ONES that glaze monarch gilga

[civic yoke]

Im listening, i just dont get the criteria you had in mind for how good gil would be

[shy tartan]

and funny valentine Monacrh 💔

[woeful basin]

no ur wording is just shit icl to you

[astral willow]

Tragedy

[tribal cove]

he buffs dmg and range a bit

[astral willow]

They butchered sbr so bad

[wraith mesa]

If you don't even know the essence or the topic of this thread, stfu

[civic yoke]

What do you mean by hard content, cant be that hard to elaborate on that

[ocean sky]

they could start dropping units with 30k dps

[woeful basin]

ur saying replacement in the sense of u expect him to be better than broly

[ocean sky]

and the game wouldn’t change

the content isn’t hard

[stray laurel]

i think i will take the 100 rrs

[astral willow]

Nah bro we expect him to be good at something, not mid at everything

[shy tartan]

i just want they buff Gilgamesh a little bit

[astral willow]

He has a bad slow

A bad stun

A bad nuke

And bad dmg

Pick a struggle

[woeful basin]

uh

[tawny burrow]

Why the fuck does he even stun and slow

[woeful basin]

but like

[civic yoke]

Brolys meta for tourneys, wls, prolly some inf maps, not a single t12 runner for wl or hell even most inf runners have ever said smth as batsht insane as "most of the meta tier outshines broly"

[tawny burrow]

Hes a damage unit bro

[woeful basin]

do we read what the devs say?

[civic yoke]

Anyway

[shy tartan]

the nuke is decent , other is so ass

[stray laurel]

not rlly bad dmg

[woeful basin]

dont smile too hard when u read this

cause they did it exactly as they planned

[astral willow]

Ah worldlines he’s definitely good in

[tawny burrow]

Valk is just braindead it cant be helped

[shy tartan]

= Gogeta sjj4 dps

[runic inlet]

stunning bosses kinda make sense cause he has the chains of heaven, but idk why that would slow normal enemies? they just had to sneak another slow merchant like stark ig

[civic yoke]

I just wanna know how good yall thought gil would be, i never expected the limited unit to be buffed to top 10

[shy tartan]

💔

[woeful basin]

yeah but it makes sense no?

[wicked isle]

He does excel at something, the nuke
Not saying you're wrong and that he's actually great at a lot of things, but the nuke is 1 thing I can defend

[astral willow]

Definitely not good in inf tho js bc of how his dmg and ability works

[stray laurel]

sooo gogeta sjj4 WILL BE TRASH?

[shy tartan]

Still better than Gilgamesh

[civic yoke]

Abilty less broly does like 190k dps with a good birb gang 😭

[astral willow]

It’s a single target that target the first enemy in the line and not even the one that he’s set to target

[ocean sky]

he’s just to stingy on the damage buff

coulda been 150%

[tawny burrow]

Yeah the stun is alr ig but that slow is just a number to have "more features" for his vf

[astral willow]

For about 3 waves.

[shy tartan]

like Gilgamesh is weakest with vanguard familiar

[wicked isle]

Yeahhh, that needs fixing and it is iffy, but the damage isnt anything to scoff at

[stray laurel]

but will not worth i put him in my team

[civic yoke]

"Ability less"

[woeful basin]

ur just mentally slow

i have nothing else to say

ones an exclusive one is a vanguard

[runic inlet]

honestly even then i think they should have just given him tethered because there's like 1 unit that does tethered and it makes more sense for chains of heaven

[woeful basin]

❓

[ocean sky]

are you the slow one?

[woeful basin]

ofcourse theres gonna be an exception to the vanguard

hello can we think guys?

[ocean sky]

valk said all limited units will be like this

[woeful basin]

w bait

[stray laurel]

tbh if the unit not top 1-10 he is trash for me i'm not gonna use him.

[wraith mesa]

and who can he even gatekeep if he had like 150% buff and a a more decent passive? Escanor will still be used in cid raid, kaguya or sukuna will still be used in bounties and challenges, and raids will still be beaten by other broken units. Now, tell gng if gilgamesh was stronger, can he even gatekeep those gamemodes? Even tournament is preferrably used by cid.

[ocean sky]

there would be no difference between gogeta and gilgamesh

[tribal cove]

without his self dmg buff will update when maxed
the team rn is
takaroda the smith ishtar delusional griff

[ocean sky]

they would both be pretty much the same

[woeful basin]

yeah so u agree with him?

[wraith mesa]

did he even said that BEFORE THEY ANNOUNCED THE POLL? ofcourse they didn't

[woeful basin]

he did what he wanted

make him usable but not high end

[wicked isle]

Yo quick question, do you use Ragna often?

[woeful basin]

there will be better options but he is still an option

[wicked isle]

I do and I feel like you'd love the guy fr fr

[tawny burrow]

Hes useless

[wicked isle]

Assuming you dont already

[tawny burrow]

Stop this glaze

[woeful basin]

hes useless COMPARED to the broken units

[wraith mesa]

he is NOT AN OPTION gng, I agree with the concept but he's not an option to be used

[tribal cove]

used to

[woeful basin]

but from a normal standpoint

[shy tartan]

Yea he kinda bad

[civic yoke]

Did yall think they were gonna make him escanor level or some shit

[woeful basin]

hes still useable

i dont get this

[tawny burrow]

Hes useless compared to like everything

[civic yoke]

Like what is the unit you thought hed be relative to post buff

Im just curious

[wraith mesa]

we wanted a normal standpoint where we are alr in the late stage of the game?

[woeful basin]

why are we tunnel visioning the fact that hes not broken

[ocean sky]

give him griffith ability bro

[woeful basin]

they said hes not gonna be

[stray laurel]

if you want gogeta sjj4 to be top 1-5 he need like 300% dmg and range 30%+ buff 😭

[woeful basin]

no

[wraith mesa]

when did they said that? before or after the poll?

[woeful basin]

just a follow up and immunity to something

[stray laurel]

unit top 1-5 doing more than 1mil dmg

[runic inlet]

i thought he would have more max dps than quetzalcoatl icl

[tawny burrow]

Better than ssj4 gogeta

[wicked isle]

I think the general consensus based off the sole fact that it's a vanguard familiar buff, probably Gojo

[woeful basin]

i dont remember where but they said they werent gonna make exclusive vfs strong

[civic yoke]

Yeah thats fair

[woeful basin]

compared to obtainable unit vfs

[astral willow]

Idk gang, maybe make the familiar actually interact or synergize with his passives, buff his dmg to a 8.0 standard like all the other familiars and do something with execute? Literally anything but making bro a bad support, damage dealer and nuker

They unironically made him worse than he was when he first dropped as it pertains to that meta

[civic yoke]

Yeah so ssj4 gogeta is ass, id use gil over that guy anyday. Dont wanna spent 186k for 10k more dps.

[civic yoke]

The support passive is bad, i can agree with that

[ocean sky]

execute isn’t getting touched ever again

[shy tartan]

yea

[ocean sky]

that’s like half the reason he’s bad

[karmic quail]

i lowk just want them to go 'fah em' and just make gilgamesh on par with the other familiars 😭

[astral willow]

Brother you can say what you want but they gave him a vanguard familiar and his opponent does the SAME AMOUNT OF DPS

[stray laurel]

yes he needs like 300% dmg buff to even reach broken units

[wraith mesa]

the standard of vanguard familiars were initialized way back where sukuna and gojo got their familiars and we got this off guard? No devs warned us about this, that's why everyone is disappointed about it.

[astral willow]

In what world is this logical

[ashen oxide]

Thats what u get for voting a bum like him

[last blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208121918855577700/1423194919115423825/2d418c0bb7d549f7a65cdf4b70f8ca6c.gif

[astral willow]

What’s the point of giving him a vf if his opponent in the poll does the same dps 😭

[shy tartan]

Gogeta will be the same

[wraith mesa]

Exactly

[ocean sky]

how are they patricking this

[civic yoke]

Gogeta IS a worse unit, but i can agree with the slow stun passive bring garbage

[ocean sky]

gilgamesh has stun immunity

slow

stun

a nuke

??

[stray laurel]

and THEY SAID limited units not getting big buff so ig he not getting the 300% dmg that we want

[paper lodge]

[wraith mesa]

trash slow and stun btw

[astral willow]

That’s like giving gogeta a vf and nerfing him

[astral willow]

He gets stunned gng.

[wraith mesa]

when did they said that? before or after the gilgamesh familiar?

[shy tartan]

125% or lower just like Gilgamesh

[last blaze]

give gogeta immunity and thats all we wanted

[swift hawk]

They won’t be they are f stupid

[runic inlet]

personally didnt want him to get a sukuna level vf, i just feel like his max dps is a tad bit too low for a unit that takes multiple waves to build up his dmg and also gets nerfed when being used alongside any other unit (including farms and other players).

[tribal cove]

tbh gilga is decent and the team i have is really easy to use

[stray laurel]

let me send the msg

[civic yoke]

I can respect that, 70k dps is pitiful given current standards, especially for 120k yen.

[paper lodge]

hes ass why would u buy the familiar

[astral willow]

If you use a whole team around buffing a specific unit of course they’re gonna be good gang

[karmic quail]

for gods sake making even an upd 2 unit be SO MUCH worse than tengen with his familiar, i get it that he's unob but man it just hurts

[wraith mesa]

sure

[astral willow]

I could make super vegeta do 100k dps with an entire team made to buff him

[karmic quail]

what team docha use?

[paper lodge]

it is what it is they hate gilgamesh

[snow sluice]

The ppl voting for this are the ppl who spent 1000+ RR getting monarch gilg early cuz they didn’t wait for the actual passives

[astral willow]

If you need an entire team to buff you when you have a vanguard familiar clearly they messed up somehow

[stray laurel]

With Gilgamesh being a fully unobtainable unit, he was designed in a way to keep him from gatekeeping people out of specific modes. The intention was to just bring a popular unit up back to the point of useability, not top meta. With that being said do you guys even want exclusive familiars as others would follow this same line of logic to where they would not be at the top of meta?

[karmic quail]

we need kazi to save gil

[swift hawk]

Imagine useing a whole team to buff just one unit from 70k to 112k dps and it would still be considered mid dps✌️😭

[karmic quail]

no i just like fate

[tribal cove]

yea tbh but my team is really laid back

[karmic quail]

and i like gil

[snow sluice]

Valid so do I

[karmic quail]

plus i only spent like 200 rrs on him to get monarch lolz

[astral willow]

Griff alone gives a 60% buff no?

[paper lodge]

[karmic quail]

it was like 4 weeks ago

[stray laurel]

gogeta is fully unobtainable unit

[wicked isle]

All hail the king of heroes

[astral willow]

Or is it 40 I can’t remember

[karmic quail]

ah yes

[tribal cove]

no 40

its cuz i have very good foo familiars too

[karmic quail]

all treasure that exists and will exist all belong to him

[tawny burrow]

Kazi is chained up in a basement deep underground to keep them from buffing gilga familiar

[tribal cove]

2 10%

[shy tartan]

nah i vote him bc i only have mo sjw gil and funny valentine

[wraith mesa]

they sent that after we knew the passives, not before. If people knew about that before they released or even before players could get it, would they be disappointed? Ofcourse not.

[peak solar]

mustve been chained for a while bc we shoulda had 5 more fate updates by now

[tribal cove]

i mean the team is pretty laid back too

[paper lodge]

bro all the stages are soloable making gilgamesh upper meta wouldnt change shit

[tawny burrow]

But like

[wise heart]

what if kazi was betrayed and locked in the time chamber for 100000 years

[tribal cove]

actually very easy i might actually use monarch gilga with his familiar js for fun

[karmic quail]

LOL

[swift hawk]

in conclusion you would not be able to beat some stages bc of that

[tawny burrow]

People dont even want him to be upper meta they just want him to be actually good

[karmic quail]

ppl dont care abt the tierlist

[paper lodge]

they locked up kazi while making this familiar

[wicked isle]

Ditto. All things considered, it's really fun watching him spam attack 1 lol

[karmic quail]

we need to free kazi then let kazi handle the rest

[stray laurel]

bro saying "get it " like it's was easy to get it?
Do you think all players can get 1mil or more to get him?

[tribal cove]

monarch grif and monarch ishtar are alr enough? and plus one farm

[paper lodge]

bro monarch ishtar 💀💀 in the biggest of 2025

[wise heart]

monarch ishtar 🥀🥹

[stray laurel]

for me i spent 2.9mil to get him

[karmic quail]

monarch ishtar 🥀

[tribal cove]

great i ragebaited everyone

[tawny burrow]

Shiny ishtar🤤

[tribal cove]

ggs

[civic yoke]

Genuine question, how good. What dps benchmark did you guys even have in mind. Cuz some dumbasses deadass thought he was getting the sukuna treatment

[karmic quail]

me n my 1 rr eth galaxy ishtar ✌️

[tribal cove]

i dont HAVE MONARCH ISHTAR FOR ALL OF YALL TO KNOW BTW

[swift hawk]

I see you already got grifff with the highest dps in the team😃 why bring gilga it’s just wasted space juts use smith to buff your griff

[ocean sky]

he can solo like all content ingame

[peak solar]

just make gilga unbound on default so broly can buff him 😁

[tawny burrow]

Something more than gogeta? Idk

[civic yoke]

Thats like 90k, youd be happy with that?

[stray laurel]

Alucard who needs buff WEDYM I SPENT LIKE 2MIL TO GET HIM AND HE IS FULLY TRASH

[astral willow]

Solution to mid is to make him decent for 15 waves and then revert back to mid

[stiff crystal]

gilg having a slow makes 0 fucking sense btw

[civic yoke]

Alucard and trash, yeah we've lost the plot.

[tribal cove]

not really i js dont like sticking wit 1 team

[karmic quail]

tell me the team 🥺

[wraith mesa]

i meant the familiar, no one knew that the familiar was going to be this worse until it was already accessible to the players. Wym 1mil???

[tawny burrow]

If he'd be better than his rival in the poll then yes
But hes not

[shy tartan]

same dps with Gogeta, both have bad slow

[karmic quail]

me too

[tawny burrow]

And also

[karmic quail]

i switch teams often

[ocean sky]

average av player

[swift hawk]

All you gng ain’t no one running this team

[wise heart]

just remove the damage reduction passive

[tribal cove]

lemme make a reall comparison rq

[tawny burrow]

They could make his vf synergize with his passives instead of just giving him some bs cc

[tribal cove]

werent u the one complainin abt the familiar why are u tryna shoot shots at some 1 tryna help ya crybabies

[wise heart]

escanor guts aizen broly crazy mvp steal team 🤑

[astral willow]

Nah guys we should be grateful that Gilgamesh, the king of supports, has a mid slow and mid stun.

[runic inlet]

seeing him hit the 100k threshold would be nice, but no more than that. Maybe less if they were to also remove the whole "loses damage when other units are in range" passive

[tawny burrow]

King of nothing🔥

[stray laurel]

1mil coins to get him or more

[tribal cove]

i managed to get escanor to this dmg too

[shy tartan]

King Of Nothing let go 🔥

[karmic quail]

i suggest a rework
King of AV
"Wins match on placement"

[still lynx]

hi

[karmic quail]

👍

[astral willow]

We all know the solution to making new passives and new units that they don’t like is to give em a slow or a stun, or if they’re really feeling special they could make him do a follow up attack 2

[karmic quail]

joke if you couldn't TELL

[tawny burrow]

Mythrix risk of rain

[wise heart]

show me the familiar 🙏

[dim trench]

bro

[astral willow]

I can’t wait for dio oh and doom slayers 50% stench aura slow and to follow up with attack 1 guys

[dim trench]

😭

[astral willow]

So exited

[stray laurel]

i'm doing escanor SUKUNA guts monkey king YOU CAN'T STEAL IT FROM ME

[astral willow]

Excited*

[tribal cove]

oh this a placement team not all burned

[robust heath]

demigod vs freak with 3 wives again

[fallen mantle]

yooo

[stiff crystal]

doom slayer buffs demons by 60%

[swift hawk]

I was saying the familar was straight trash your ass here trying to defend him like you are on your last life like you simply don’t get how shed he is do are you that f incompetent to not understand that

[wise heart]

ah

[fallen mantle]

@still lynx

boi

[still lynx]

dpmo

[fallen mantle]

g2h

[tribal cove]

what are we yawpin abt

[fallen mantle]

kamui here

[astral willow]

Testers have entered the chat

[fallen mantle]

its time to go

[astral willow]

Can yall leak the doom slayer passives

[shy tartan]

weakest unit with vanguard familiar, king of nothing 💔

[stray laurel]

yes

[still lynx]

nerfing gilgamesh familiar

[astral willow]

Is he gon be slowing by 50% like starkk

[tawny burrow]

Save av kamui🙏

[stiff crystal]

king of meta tier

[peak solar]

kazi will retaliate with a enkidu unit

[tribal cove]

why would i GLAZE gilgas vf when my gogeta is decent

[robust heath]

another

[civic yoke]

All i see is shirou victim

[stray laurel]

💀

[wraith mesa]

yo testers, what are your opinion on gilgatrash

[fallen mantle]

this is so funny

LMAO

[stiff crystal]

doom slayer vs dio oh

[swift hawk]

Who cares at this point might aswell just delete the vf bc it’s not a vanguard familiar more like secret or mythical familar

[brave flare]

told you guys to vote for gogeta ✌️

[shy tartan]

King of decent tier

[stiff crystal]

make doom slayer meta unbound support

and buff demons

[astral willow]

Doom slayer vs how on passives

[brazen ivy]

legendary familiar

[peak solar]

5 fate updates will come upon us to bless this misfortune

dear kazi

we ask for enkidu

[tawny burrow]

Epic familiar

[fallen mantle]

gilgamesh is better

[wraith mesa]

sure, it was useless anyway

[swift hawk]

See bro gets it

[still lynx]

youre tripping lil bro 💀 this makes gilgamesh top 1 and meta for every game mode

[astral willow]

Who named his familiar a vanguard familiar

[wraith mesa]

a better unit with a trash buff

[astral willow]

Bro got that rare treatment

[shy tartan]

Rare familiar

[brazen ivy]

Soooo can we stop rage baiting

Thanks

[stray laurel]

fr players are mad bec gilgamesh won and he is not "Broken unit"

[fallen mantle]

yes bro

you got it

[tribal cove]

decently built gogeta vs decently medicore built team for gilga
clone did 322k dmg btw js no ss 😛

[fallen mantle]

this guy is smart for once

[brazen ivy]

Nah

not really

[karmic quail]

wuy

[astral willow]

We mad cuz gogeta better than him and he don’t even have a familiar

[swift hawk]

Rage baiting nah it’s just the truth

[astral willow]

Birb is unironically better than his own vf

[brazen ivy]

why are we bunching not broken and not useable in the same catagory

[astral willow]

How the fuck is birb better than a supposed vanguard familiar

Shit has to be studied

[brazen ivy]

like sure hes not broken but he sure as shit isnt useable either

[shy tartan]

gogeta still better than gilgamesh with familiar is make no sense 💔😭 ,

W familiar

[astral willow]

They gave my boy the starkk treatment bro

[ocean sky]

thank you

[wraith mesa]

because broken units are the only units that is being used rn

[tribal cove]

gilga is decent

[tight wind]

Just use goblin slayer

[swift hawk]

It’s still higher so in theory Gilgamesh with a buffed out team still does lesss dps the a unit from update 4.5😂😂😂😂😂

[runic inlet]

speed face

[astral willow]

Had no idea what to do so they slapped on that 50% slow and said “they gon love this one”

[stray laurel]

W edit

[tribal cove]

i mean yea his a vanguard and not even counting his clone btw we will nt get anywhere with this arguement

[wraith mesa]

like bro, who even still uses invincible, leo, gg, zeke, quez, and other meta units???

[swift hawk]

He isn’t doe

[dim trench]

i do

we do

[runic inlet]

dont sleep on invincible bro

tournament demon

[shy tartan]

Invincible is so op wdym

[wise heart]

seasalt vf 🤑

[wraith mesa]

mb on invincible

[swift hawk]

You right bc you can’t accept that he is bad therefore you are you running in circles proving yourself wrong

[runic inlet]

seasalt i need u

[stray laurel]

Do you think new players not using them and use kaguya and sukuna with familiar? 💀

[tribal cove]

both of them are good.

[wraith mesa]

do u think new players have gilga?

[shy tartan]

Free 200 rr 💔

[stray laurel]

no but you said "who are using them"

[wraith mesa]

this is for late game btw, people with monarchs

[swift hawk]

There are just so many units that are better and for a NEW vf unit he is just terrible like for crying out load freaking TENGEN is better like he is a mythical y’all cannot be dead ass

[wraith mesa]

you dont expect a new player to have gilga, so why are we even considering them in the first place?

[swift hawk]

More like none of them bc no one are using gogeta

[tawny burrow]

King of bums

[tribal cove]

man everyone firing shots at each man im js happy that i have the freedom of not sticking to 1 monarch

[vale breach]

ye it is strange why a mythic unit have a vanguard familar

[brazen ivy]

You realise i am on your side right

[swift hawk]

Mb miss reading

[mild frigate]

Nerf gilgamesh familiar it's too op

[karmic quail]

you're actually slop

[wraith mesa]

its useless so why bother

[karmic quail]

😭

[dim trench]

🤬

[shy tartan]

yea he useless

[tribal cove]

yea no one does but as with gilga no one used him till word got around abt his familiar so we both are in the same arguement

[wraith mesa]

do it

[mild frigate]

[still lynx]

yes

[karmic quail]

cant readcha username

[rustic valley]

BRO NERF GILGA HES MAKING THE GAME UNBALANCED

[karmic quail]

naur i used him actually

[dim trench]

wait

[stray laurel]

nerf or not i'm getting the 200 rrs HEHEHEHEHE

[karmic quail]

just to stare at the angelica ski-

[dim trench]

who changed my username

[karmic quail]

uh it was dio

[dim trench]

bucket pmo

[tribal cove]

idk why im being argued at im js the numbers guy

[swift hawk]

You taking about me

[karmic quail]

when are you sharing the team 😭

[mild frigate]

just a bebeh 😂

[shy tartan]

just remove all Gilgamesh familiar passives and we lost 100 rr

[runic inlet]

wait can gilgamesh not do his normal attacks when he's doing his single target NP attacks cause of the animation? 🥀

[tribal cove]

man yall arguin WE OBV KNOW MONARCH ESCANOR ON TOP FR

[dim trench]

👨‍🏫

[rustic valley]

Shields no diff that bum

[wraith mesa]

exactly, "usable" my ass, you can't even use him at any content and you're telling me that he is usable at most?

[tawny burrow]

✅

[wicked isle]

Yeah he cant

[swift hawk]

Ye no one used him before bc he was a very very outdated unit now he is just a outdated unit

[runic inlet]

shield enemies when you place him on wave 2

[tribal cove]

u right but buttttt switch to a dif team when a stage has them?

[stray laurel]

DO YOU KNOW ? LIKE DO BY DOING THIS YOU WILL GET 20RRS

[tribal cove]

both are

[runic inlet]

that's genuinely atrocious icl, he might be better with just a birb atp

[fallen mantle]

this suggestion is so funny

[dim trench]

😂

[fallen mantle]

had a good laugh

thank you guys

[still lynx]

yh we all know gilgamesh is top 1 units

[topaz gate]

careful, they're gonna clown react you

[swift hawk]

Funny?😂😂😂😂

[fallen mantle]

yes bro

[fallen mantle]

i dont care they do what they want as long as i laugh

[runic inlet]

isnt the tester role just cosmetic

[tawny burrow]

Testers and devs when they have to put their gigantic ass ego aside and listen to the community

[fallen mantle]

they trying to cope

[tribal cove]

lol

[stiff crystal]

Gilg when he sees people near him

[fallen mantle]

the game wouldnt work if we werent here

[runic inlet]

tester when they have to find a bug instead of just playing the game 3 hours before release 💔

[wraith mesa]

lol