Buff/Rework Gilgamesh's familiar and WE NEED VALENTINE (PASSION) VFAMILIAR

[tribal cove]

EXACTLY

[tender flare]

i mean he is usable

its just theres no point using him because theres better units

[tame sphinx]

Yeah bro he is unusable when he drains his np stacks

[tender flare]

he can still do basically everything

[tame sphinx]

His 30 NP stacks

[tame sphinx]

Like buffing allies

[tender flare]

stages

i meant

[tribal cove]

ggs

[runic inlet]

8.5 was alright but there really wasn’t much to do and most of the events on now are just repeats from last update which feels repetitive and boring, also i feel like most players are getting burnt out with vanguard familiars quests since its always just “do 25 stages with x unit”

[tame sphinx]

Kaguya can do it alone

[tender flare]

any unit can do most things alone

[tame sphinx]

Skull Knight can do it alone

[sick river]

reminder to star ts ❤️‍🩹

[tribal cove]

dude i missed out on 3 days for tengens familiar bc mostly i js didnt rlly gave a f

it gets so lame and repetative

[tender flare]

hell id rather use gilgamesh than kaguya simply because kaguyas annoying to use

[tame sphinx]

No one will use an inferior version of someone bro, barely used to be exact

[runic inlet]

Yea I’ve missed out on about 2 cause after doing gojo, sukuna and now gilgamesh its just so unoriginal and boring

[peak solar]

hopefully update out after this event i cant stand vfs anymore

[tender flare]

yeah but if you had him monarch and nothing else

now hes viable

and not jut sitting in ur inv

[tame sphinx]

Kaguless?

[tribal cove]

now this is crazy

[tame sphinx]

I have monarch on him, i'd say kaguya still does better

[runic inlet]

It’s the fact they made tengen top of the meta and gilgamesh is less usable than gojo with his familiar 😭

[tribal cove]

i missed out on kaguya and yea ik ik

"how could you

gang i was not gon grind manually for 2m currency for the last 2 days

[tame sphinx]

USe the inferior to kaguya then

[lost crest]

We all missed out on Kaguya

I gave up after spending 2mil BEFORE

[lost crest]

BEFOREEE

[runic inlet]

Whos we?

[lost crest]

BEFORE

THE PITY

BEFORE

BEFORE

BEFOREEE

[runic inlet]

I have 2 at least of EVERY vanguard ✌️

[tribal cove]

i spent 1.5m for kaguya before the 3m thing

[lost crest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809806310395871242/1421670679178383420/togif.gif

[tender flare]

hows that bad

i would expect gojo to be better than gilgamesh

[lost crest]

6777 msgs

[tribal cove]

well its obv

[lost crest]

MAKE IT 6777

Whoops

[tribal cove]

sniped

[sick river]

we?

[peak solar]

can we change that single target nuke to a circle aoe instead bc its the same ani as the first attack

[sick river]

not me!

[runic inlet]

Because tengen is a random who won none of the votes and gojo was the first vanguard familiar to come out and was always the worst one

[sick river]

heh!

[tribal cove]

am i THE ONLY ONE TAHT DONT GT KAGUYA BRO???

[sick river]

atomic where's the PS link for plants vs brainrots or the pond game

[runic inlet]

Oh look its me

[tender flare]

tengen was put in because of the ds movie

[sick river]

i need saved

[iron dagger]

Dw man i have no vanguards

[lost crest]

🙋

[sick river]

i cant do this odyssey shit no more 🥀

[runic inlet]

He’s barely even in the ds movie lol

[iron dagger]

Im vanguardless

You can say

[tribal cove]

its the units we gained along the way

[tender flare]

he was still obviously put in because of the ds movie

gojo was better than gilgamesh even when he was released gilgamesh’s kit is just ass

[iron dagger]

My first vanguard will be saber

Clearly

[lost crest]

What

[sick river]

the devs will add all of your stage suggestions one day, miso!

[tribal cove]

whatever happened abt devs talking at artoria months ago

[sick river]

as long as we all keep believing.....

[sick cypress]

Sus emoji

[tender flare]

and gilgamesh shouldn’t be in the broken tier because he locks out players that dont have him

[tribal cove]

we gtta get csm

[runic inlet]

It’s besides my point regardless, the balancing around vanguard familiars just makes no sense because some are just absolute top of meta tier while others are just barely somewhat usable

[sick river]

and opm

we need csm and opm

🙏

[eager coral]

Definitely not

[tame sphinx]

Kaguya still does better than Gilgamesh with vf, no one uses inferior version of someone

[tender flare]

this vfamiliar should be called an exclusive familiar

[tender flare]

yeah and kaguyas annoying to use

[tribal cove]

all these aura farmers but missing kaguya...

[eager coral]

Most rushed familiar ever gang

[sick cypress]

We need ARX to surpass AV for them to be on their A game again

[tender flare]

shes not even good for anything besides like prob lb stuff but ion do that so idgaf

[runic inlet]

Yea but it’s not and they didn’t advertise it as that so here we are lol

[sick river]

deadass do not bother w/ that tester, cro 💔

never letting this ss be forgotten btw

[tender flare]

hes right hes just corny

[sick river]

crazy ass thing to say as a tester for the game

[tribal cove]

everytime i see him is always him arguin

[runic inlet]

Tester is just a cosmetic role anyway, why do people ever listen to testers 🥀

[sick river]

clearly

[paper lodge]

auo 67

[tender flare]

having a precedent of exclusive familairs being good would just piss off new players when they cant make their teams better since they cant even get them

[iron dagger]

There just elite e wording us

[sick cypress]

The same testers that don't notice the most obvious bugs

[late fiber]

same literally every message i see of him

[tribal cove]

ggs are we all cooked after anni?

[sick river]

why do we have to cater to new players sm

[tender flare]

anni aint even coming

theyrr making avx

[tribal cove]

always arguin or ego trip no in between

[tender flare]

money

[sick river]

the vast majority of AV's playerbase are OG's

[tender flare]

thats just hiw it is now bro

everyone complained about difficulty

so they went the opposite spectrun

[iron dagger]

Yeah probably im so done with stage suggestions

[late fiber]

precisely

[tender flare]

cuz this community is full of crybabies

and loud crybabies

at that

[sick river]

we're in the ALS pipeline

[paper lodge]

i demand difficult contents vro

[tender flare]

cant blame the devs for this

[runic inlet]

They’re gonna add 5 more bundles before upd comes out with 0 sneaks because all the remodels are ahh and they wanna milk our money before they dip forever ✌️

[sick cypress]

Won't ever happen

Again

[tribal cove]

NO

YOU WILL NOT GIVE UP YOU

KEEP SPREADING CSM PROPOGANDA WE MUST WIN

[tender flare]

whenever they attempt it their game dies

[paper lodge]

csm sucks

[remote field]

So we aren't meant to voice our complaints that critics

[sick river]

youll be making stage suggestions till you're 90. sorry!

[tender flare]

you can but you’re still a crybaby

[tribal cove]

ik its ragebait but why am i so vivid.

[sick river]

i bet you like demon slayer, jjk, solo leveling, or blue lock. hmph!

[eager coral]

If think about it longer than 10 seconds you'll understand it's horrible answer.

[iron dagger]

Im going all in on minecraft and ananta when it releases

[paper lodge]

no i like aot

[sick river]

miso

[tribal cove]

OHH WE SHOULD ADD THE WARDEN FROM MC

[sick river]

play modded miencraft with me

🙏

[tender flare]

limited units from a long time ago shouldn’t come back into the meta

[iron dagger]

Man i JUST started my new world

[remote field]

Yh that's just an excuse for Devs to do as they please

[tribal cove]

hardcore vanilla mc is better

[runic inlet]

I like difficult content because it gives me a reason to use my fuckton of op units no diff most of the game, but if its required for progression we just end up with update 7.0 type situations

[sick river]

hardcore modded

trust the process

[iron dagger]

Got a nice set up after fleaing from the feds

[runic inlet]

cope

[sick river]

its okay

we can start a new world together!

😊

[tender flare]

theyre never attempting it again because the community cried so gg

[tribal cove]

nah we abt to have jousting zombies with spears ALL OUR HARDCORE WORLDS WILL BE LOST

[eager coral]

Than why even make it in the first place. Clearly because PEOPLE WANTED HIM TO BECOME BETTER.

[tender flare]

say goodbye to any hard and long gamemode where you needa use good units

[iron dagger]

Boy what

[runic inlet]

I mean we have elemental confluence which is kinda hard ig

[tender flare]

he is better by a large margin

[eager coral]

Again someone with no comprehension

[sick cypress]

Monarchs are lowkey useless

[sick river]

bro didjnt see trhe minecraft live

[tribal cove]

yea new upd in mc zombies can 1 shot u now and riding zombie horses

[sick cypress]

Only good for tournaments

[tender flare]

barely

[sick river]

they made zombie horses actually spawn now

[iron dagger]

HUH?!?!?!??!

[sick river]

and zombies can ride them

[tender flare]

hell

[sick river]

and theres a new weapon

[tribal cove]

yea

[sick river]

the spear

its damage ramps up the faster you're going

[tender flare]

the main part of elemental confluence is grinding for bum ahh units ur never using again

[iron dagger]

Horizontal mace

[sick river]

so if a zombie charges atr you with a spear on a zombie horse

ur cooked

[tender flare]

wouldnt even say its hard

[sick river]

yeah p much

[tribal cove]

IM JS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO ONE SHOT THE WARDEN WITH SPEAR

[remote field]

He is better, but the thing is by next upd he would be trash again

[runic inlet]

They should have just waited for trading to come out to give limited units vanguard familiars ngl

[iron dagger]

Man ive been stuck in 1.20.1

[tender flare]

is he not still better than his old form

[iron dagger]

I never got to play with the mace

[sick river]

me too lowk

[modest prism]

How the hell we went from av to minecraft

[sick river]

all the good mods are on that version

[tender flare]

the amount of people with gilgamesh would still stay relatively the same

[sick river]

aside from a select few

[iron dagger]

Exactly bro

[sick river]

its not really worth going up a version rn

[remote field]

Dps wise yes

Passive wise the dude sucks

[runic inlet]

There would be an avenue to obtaining him which would curb a lot of peoples distain for limited units being brought to meta

[tribal cove]

am i cooking?
hc vanilla"

[sick river]

alex's caves is the main thing keeping me on 1.20 i cant lie

i cant imagine playing w/o alexs caves now

it carries my worlds

[tender flare]

dude ill bet you a bundle that atleast 9-10 units aren’t breaking the meta

[iron dagger]

L

[sick river]

MISO

have you seen the

new shit for mowzies mobs

[iron dagger]

No

[tender flare]

doesn’t fix the issue though

[sick river]

thats coming out for their next upd

[sick river]

im sending you stuff in dms hang on

[iron dagger]

I don’t usually get news on mods

[runic inlet]

Idc make diavolo top 1 😂✌️

[tribal cove]

fr

[remote field]

It's not abt being meta, this is not Gilgamesh

[iron dagger]

My feed is just art and music stuff

Brainrot

[remote field]

It's just slop

[tender flare]

sure you can obtain him but he’s probably gonna end up super expensive since his dupes didnt give extra keys to evo them too

unless u chose to individually evo each one

but ur just weird if u did that

[tribal cove]

wAIT MC COPPER AGE UPD IS OUT???

[remote field]

The familiars that are coming out are just slop that has no correlation with the character

[runic inlet]

Nothing in this game is gonna be super expensive bar maybe shiny diavolo, saiko and zbroly

[tribal cove]

vfamiliars ruinin the game atp js give every unit 1 even the rares

[tender flare]

ugh i never got saiko

after doing a million runs

pno

pmo

i got two mikus tho

so

[runic inlet]

I got 2 but no shinies

[tender flare]

before her rates were buffed

I ALSO GOT 0 MIMIS

[runic inlet]

I just waited forbher rates to get buffed

[remote field]

Gojo till this day has nothing to do with Infinity

[tender flare]

i got 2 mikus

[runic inlet]

1 shiny mimi ✌️

[tender flare]

thats basically 2 diavalos

[runic inlet]

2 saikos

2 diavolos

[tender flare]

or 1 diavalo

**

[remote field]

It's sad to say but als gojo is more Faithfull to gojo than av

[tender flare]

gojos the driedt character ever bro

[tribal cove]

when trading is out i will only trade for divalo only strictly for his comsetics combinations

[peak solar]

shiny diego cosmetic

[tribal cove]

i alr have him shiny

[runic inlet]

Vanguard familiars were a cool idea til they spammed them and made some of them so op they were more important than the main characters of the update they were introduced in

[iron dagger]

Trading pure un evolved seiko

[tender flare]

sukuna was deserved

[iron dagger]

My most valuable possession apparently

[tender flare]

just evo them

[iron dagger]

No

[sick river]

AV devs have a trend of introducing cool and fun ideas and then executing them in the shittiest way possible

[runic inlet]

True but even then i don’t think he should have been arguably top 1

[tender flare]

he shoudlve

[sick river]

VFamiliars

[iron dagger]

Its more pure un evolved

[sick river]

PVP

[tender flare]

he was like fringe top 5

[sick river]

elemental reactions

[tender flare]

when he had came out

[sick river]

all cool and fun ideas

[tribal cove]

nah they doin too much atp

[sick river]

but theyre all dogshit

[tender flare]

and sukunas cool

he had a sick cosmetic

and he is cool

and they promised a vanguard evo way before

soo he deserved it

gojo deserved jack shit

[runic inlet]

Public testing would fix all these problems ❤️‍🩹

[sick river]

cant wait for the sukuna VFamiliar to be invalidated now that everything's original

[tribal cove]

oh yess sirr copper golems are here
im abt to have a whole sweatshop of them orginizing all my loot

[tender flare]

what

[sick river]

they can give sukuna an evo

[tender flare]

cant wait for sukuna to get his vanguarf evo and we get a jjk upd part 2

[sick river]

meaning the vfamiliar would be worthless

[tender flare]

oh thats what u meant

i thought u meant they just temove it

istg if sukuna isnt meguma evo ill be angry

[wicked isle]

Cant wait for Sukono (Hawaiian)

[tender flare]

ALL the other games do heian

[runic inlet]

He was my first monarch unit and i put all godly stats on him when his upd first came out, i still think making him debatable top 1 with just a vf set a terrible precedent

[tender flare]

meguna would be sooo much cooler

[peak solar]

kazi will add 5 more fate updates in response to the gilgamesh hate first

[sick river]

nah bro theyd never add megumi

cant believe that they left him out of the shibuya update

actually diabolical

SO WAS REDUCING MAHITO TO A

TOURNEY UNIT

[tender flare]

cuz theyw ere waiting for

jjk part 2

duh

[sick river]

clearly

[tender flare]

think of the future..

[peak solar]

kashimo soon

[runic inlet]

JUST make a meguna vanguard that has a secret passive that makes him transform into heian when you meet certain conditions btw✌️

[tribal cove]

finally new upd here yall are abt to hear from me in the next 20 mins if i lose my hc world of 200+ days to a baby zombie with a spear or worse

[runic inlet]

We need more vanguards with fun hidden passives

[tender flare]

wanna see my concept for a vanguard

[runic inlet]

Sure

[tender flare]

sukuna x gojo

[tribal cove]

wasnt that supposed to be like the main focus tbh

[runic inlet]

O yea that would be cool

[wicked isle]

Nice ship

😳

[runic inlet]

I mean escanor is the only one i know of that has a secret passive

[tribal cove]

yea tbh its lit asf

[tender flare]

whole lotta readinhg

also ignore the name switch i forgot to change it

😭

[arctic blaze]

7000 messages

I mean

6-7k messages

[tribal cove]

cinema

[tender flare]

i didnt rlly know what to do for mahoraga

so

[tribal cove]

how would big raga even work in av if he were to be added

[last blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/broly-z-broly-laughing-looking-at-phone-meme-gif-14585553075239458894

[tender flare]

i dee kay

[last blaze]

Very deserved for not voting diavolo

[runic inlet]

I never thought of sukuna feeding his fingers to an enemy to kill them lol, thats a fun idea

[runic inlet]

But this means if diavolo gets a familiar now he’s gonna be ahh 💔

[wicked isle]

That sounds a bit too sensual for av 😳

[tender flare]

yeah i had to create something as a base attack and remembered that people just die if they eat sukuna’s finger

and theyre not a vessel

[last blaze]

We want he being usable not being broken

[runic inlet]

Yea i forgot his fingers are like a poison to most people

[runic inlet]

Gilgamesh is unusable doodoo and WE want diavolo to be top 1

[last blaze]

Giving meta for a limited unit is one of the worst idea ever

[solemn dawn]

make a familiar too op = complaining make a familiar for a niche use = complaining 🥹

[tender flare]

how do u like the concept with the vs unit that branches off into the 2 forms

im too lazy to do gojo rn ill do it later

[runic inlet]

No its peak and the best ever

diavolo was supposed to get brute force damage buffs anyway before they changed it so his familiar should make him busted for a while ✌️

[runic inlet]

It’s cool imo, it’s kinda like what i originally thought broly would have been

[sick cypress]

Like AA

[tall fiber]

chat

im cooking a major suggestion here

be prepared in 5 minutes

[tender flare]

chop chop

[peak solar]

3 minutes more

[tall fiber]

im actually already done with it, im just waiting on suggestion CD lol

[tender flare]

honestly they should do a poll on if people are interested in reruns and

once every year

they can do a rerun

or smth

idk

[modest prism]

Is familiar not permanent?

[raw monolith]

Why? just because other people didn't play the game at the time? so you need to ignore all the others who already played and worked in some way to get the unit. Congratulations dumb.

[paper lodge]

theres no drawback to give gilgamesh a good vf

[raw monolith]

If you launch limited units or limited vanguards that will never return to the power you already had, there is no reason to give them any sense of exclusivity. the game does not even have trade yet.

So yes, its PEAK

Buff this shit

[peak solar]

10 units here are exclusive btw

[paper lodge]

buff the king

[remote field]

They tried to bandage the amount of limited unit with this rubbish so called limited units will remain buns sh

[raw monolith]

Devs cannot maintain a natural balance of progression. it is always a bizarre thing such as:
New character launches super broken or much stronger than old ones. Two updates later the others lose power. "balancing"

[viscid sundial]

Could never been my goat goku fusion I forgot his name goat vanguard

[remote field]

He's doesn't even deserve to be on here quetz does more than him by far

[grave spindle]

7k msgs in 9 hours holy 💀

[raw monolith]

If they won't even buff the exclusives, wait for the vanguards. The units have 0,005% chance and will turn a shit.

[viscid sundial]

Keep it family friendly

✌️

[remote field]

With this new familiar nonsense, it just reduced the incentive to get limited unitd

[raw monolith]

It is unbelievable that there was still a tester talking shit and repeating the script ready.

[wise heart]

they just need to get rid of the damage nerf with other units, increase a bit his damage and thats it

[raw monolith]

Yea, of course

[viscid sundial]

Nerf others buff gilga?

Lol

LOL

[wise heart]

are u dumb?

[peak solar]

🤦‍♂️

[wise heart]

gilga get nerfed if placed with other units

[raw monolith]

Another donkey, nerfing other units because the game is becoming more difficult?

[stiff crystal]

Yall

[wise heart]

holy reading comprehension strikes again

[peak solar]

can u guys read passives bro

oh my fuck

[stiff crystal]

He said get rid of the dmg nerf with other units

[wise heart]

istg these mf cant read

[raw monolith]

Sorry, why nerf*

[remote field]

Ong

[wise heart]

same people who said broly is mid btw

[paper lodge]

king of heroes or king of curses

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809806310395871242/1421670679178383420/togif.gif

[stiff crystal]

king of meta tier

[wise heart]

king of top 1 in my heart 🥹

[paper lodge]

not even top 1 meta tier 😭😭

[hushed iron]

gilga got done dirty in av and fate strange fake

[last blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208121918855577700/1423194919115423825/2d418c0bb7d549f7a65cdf4b70f8ca6c.gif

[wise heart]

is byken even that good...

why is she higher than gilgamesh

[last blaze]

She is

She is the only unit with tethered and get over here

Also does repulse

[wise heart]

so is she more of a support?

[grave spindle]

shes meta support imo

yea

[wise heart]

cuz her damage aint tht crazy

[grave spindle]

i can't think of a progressive game mode where i would need those abilities

[runic inlet]

broken cc, u dont rlly use her for dps much

[peak solar]

she's like gogeta

[wise heart]

worth getting?

[peak solar]

where she attacks twice

[stiff crystal]

if you’re doing lb yea

[wise heart]

i dont wanna do pvp in this game

its actually horrible

[runic inlet]

i still never use her though cause the game is piss easy and most of the units just 1 shot everything now

[grave spindle]

exactly 🥀

[last blaze]

Dont vote for diavolo guys gilgamesh is now even better than diavolo as a support

[grave spindle]

mofos were hating on gg ex and now the game is so piss easy i can't even use the full potential of my units

unless it's in some infinite game mode

[stiff crystal]

hakura rin familiar

[sick river]

mfs acting like difficult content is the problem

[wise heart]

plus 999 range

[sick river]

it isnt

[last blaze]

Monarch trait and units are the problem

[sick river]

the dev's incompetance when it comes to implementing "difficult" content is the problem

[grave spindle]

there are a lot of problems with the game

[wise heart]

i mean if they add traitless stages mf are gonna complain

[grave spindle]

difficulty is just one of them

[sick river]

& monarch trait ye

[wise heart]

and its kinda valid

[last blaze]

Harder contents mean 95% units will be unusable the only way they could do was nerfing broken tier units

[wise heart]

and most people will just search up a tutorial anyways

[last blaze]

nd they still complain

[grave spindle]

there are tower defense games where people make documents on strategies to beat game modes

then there's anime td

where u place a unit

it upgrades itself

[wise heart]

and everything is rng locked

[peak solar]

tds 💔

[grave spindle]

and you have a 100% chance of winning

tds, tdx, cube defense simulator

there's quite a few

[peak solar]

i just want more multi lane maps like the ant dungeon

[grave spindle]

at least those games feel like strategy

[peak solar]

that was like the last time av felt challenging for me

igris boss rush when it came out too

[sick river]

actually true

[wise heart]

yh

[grave spindle]

gg was probably the only time i felt the game get challenigng

[runic inlet]

most anime fans are too braindead for this and those games probably have considerably lower player counts so the devs would never attempt this unfortunately 💔

[wise heart]

soloing the gg rift was also kinda hard

[sick river]

theyve missed the mark on difficult content since ant dungeon

[wise heart]

cuz i was being a dumbass

[last blaze]

Ye but we didnt have something called monarch reliant and vanguards

[sick river]

made all difficult content since either annoying or painfully boring

[grave spindle]

soloing it was piss easy cuz i had monarch escanor 🥀

[runic inlet]

update 7.0 the tournament only units update

[grave spindle]

like sometimes i would have to artificially make the game feel harder by not using my monarchs

🥀

[wise heart]

i was using aizen 🥀

[sick river]

this is lowk the method

ive done this on occasion

[grave spindle]

i remember me and my friend trying to solo jiji rift with rumbling units only

[peak solar]

might use my shiny eth akaza again

[wise heart]

but the thing is why use other units when u can solo with one monarch 🥀

[grave spindle]

and he restarted the game when i told him not to because i saw the rumbling just about starting on the last wave

[runic inlet]

they gotta implement those challenges youtubers do as an actual feature where you can just lock yourself out of using certain mechanics lol

[wise heart]

like u are making it harder for urself

[grave spindle]

and he hadnt realised that we were gonna iwn 🥀

[peak solar]

nuzlocke challenge

[grave spindle]

they wont do that because they want to appeal to the majority ccu

[runic inlet]

add ironman from skyblock to av ❤️‍🩹

[last blaze]

Anything make u feel hard rn will burn down all the units that not having immunity or broken ass dps ngl and 100% units thats not monarch reliant

[lost crest]

Uhh

[sick river]

lowk a good idea

[last blaze]

Shut up green role

[sick river]

self-imposed difficulty is cool

[grave spindle]

majority ccu want easy game, easy content, no grind and the same majority will complain over updates that do exactly that

[runic inlet]

isnt that ur twin

[wise heart]

at the end of the day we are in roblox

[lost crest]

Uhhh

[wise heart]

mfs have extra chromosones when playing roblox

[runic inlet]

appealing to the majority was a horrible idea in the first place because the "majority" are just ex als players that want fast dopamine but then complain when it wears off

[grave spindle]

exactly

[last blaze]

Idk why are they still voting exclusive vf when they alr knew it gonna be buns

[sick river]

the majority players are actual piggies

"oink oink we love slop"

[runic inlet]

it makes them more money tho ig which is the end goal for them so nothing we can do

[peak solar]

ppl just want rrs 💔

atp like

[sick river]

theres a reason shit like sab or gag are the highest ccu games on roblox

[peak solar]

if there's gonna be vanguard familiars every week

[grave spindle]

probably because they know gogeta is going to clear

[sick river]

the slop pipeline of roblox runs deep

[runic inlet]

i still stand by the opinion that als and theboss did irreparable damage to the average td players brains with how they made their games

[peak solar]

the name and title of vanguard familiars really hold no more weight

[grave spindle]

they were gonna run a event regardless of whether the familiar was exclusive or not

[last blaze]

Nah im sick of doing odsyssey over and over

I want something like element confluence more

[runic inlet]

its so mind numbing

[last blaze]

Improve it with banning list

[runic inlet]

elemental confluence was a nice addition

[peak solar]

confluence was like the last time i used frieren

[grave spindle]

elemental confluence should be its own game mode

[runic inlet]

not perfect but a step in the right direction at least

[sick river]

reminder to get this to spotlight

✌️

[runic inlet]

they had me using tournament unit bardock on the blast stage for a sec

[last blaze]

They should ban certain units in element confluence tho so players actually use their brain

[sick river]

elemental confluence is a good way to do difficult content

[grave spindle]

mhm

[last blaze]

Cuz traitless modifier exist

[grave spindle]

time to play pvp

[sick river]

unpopular opinion but straight damage buff traits kind of suck ass in these types of games

[grave spindle]

this time they gonna ban my gilgamesh monarch

[sick river]

completely and utterly trivializes the game

can we get unique traits

🙏

[grave spindle]

nah

too late for trait changes

[sick river]

unfortunately

[sick river]

deadeye is a good example

[grave spindle]

familiars were supposed to be the replacement for sub-traits

but that's not what it feels like

[runic inlet]

my biggest problem with it is that you have to use champions on most elements, but champions is just rng c*ded and the bosses are always different, that and you have to return to lobby everytime you wanna restart unless you prefire your restart before the boss kills your base

[last blaze]

Ye cuz they made birb

The worst thing they ever made

And familiar also make some shit units depend on it tho

Such as gauge bar units

They are ass without familiar

[sick river]

its crazy how tou have to do cid raid for arguably both of the best familiars in the entire game

birbs cooked familiars

[last blaze]

They even nerf gauge bar more with new modifier

For what

[runic inlet]

gauge bar units are just designed to be used with black spirit which automatically makes them worse than other units that you can just stick a birb on

[sick river]

all other familiars have niche use cases when they could be utilized so much more

[runic inlet]

so boring

[sick river]

just because of birb alone

💀

[last blaze]

Lfelf prob the most poor unit in this game

[sick river]

she got cucked

[runic inlet]

nerfed into the ground

[stiff crystal]

just wait till trading

[sick river]

super broken on the update drop

[sick river]

literally for what

had this whole difficulty spike

[runic inlet]

anyone else remember pre-fix sakura ✌️

[sick river]

remind me

[last blaze]

Inf domain

[runic inlet]

she just lowered your units spa way lower than it should have been

my gojo was doing like 10 attacks a second with her corruption buff

[sick river]

thats nuts

[last blaze]

Oh ye sakura

I thought sukuna

[sick river]

i dont think i got sakura when that was a thing

[runic inlet]

i hunted monarch on her not knowing it was a bug

[sick river]

both the sukuna boss rosh & the fate boss rush updates should have just been part of the .0's rather than being split off into a .5

[wicked isle]

Mmmm monarch Sakura

[sick river]

maybe then we could have fate part 3!

[wicked isle]

Peak

[runic inlet]

yea that was aandrevious era

we just blame everything from then on aandrevious

[peak solar]

yikes

[sick river]

"durr we already had 2 fate updates"

[peak solar]

+10% damage -5% spa passives

horrid times

[wicked isle]

I too was a victim

[sick river]

ok bro

[runic inlet]

[sick river]

lets never drop jjk part 3

since the sukuna boss rush was jjk part 2 already

!

[runic inlet]

aandrevious using 120% of his brain capacity to come up with these passives in 3 weeks

and it was considered innovative back then

actually more than 3 weeks

pretty sure updates took longer

[peak solar]

a month

[runic inlet]

💔

[peak solar]

i remember jjk update released with itadori

but u couldnt even evolve him yet because they didnt finish the boss rush for sukuna

[last blaze]

Had to do jjk br with choso

[last blaze]

Peoples with alucard had easy life

[sick river]

i remember when people malded over how difficult the sukuna br was

[runic inlet]

genuinely 🥀

my friend got alucard in like 500k gems or

[sick river]

i got alucard some time during 3.0 or 3.5

ive gotten 2 additional alucards since then

[runic inlet]

i didnt get my first alucard til 3mil gems i thinks

[peak solar]

yikes

3 mil

[runic inlet]

now im at 5.5mil and i have 5 alucards 🥀

[peak solar]

[sick river]

it took me like 900k gems

[runic inlet]

having alucard during early upds just put u above everyone

[tribal cove]

guys

[runic inlet]

if u didnt have him you were just a bum using choso 🥀

[tribal cove]

..

i might have to get the vanguard for gilga and spend 1200 rrs for monarch.,

[runic inlet]

i already pitied on him so im getting the familiar regardless

[peak solar]

hes my second monarch 😁

[wicked isle]

Butbutbutbutbutbut why

[peak solar]

100 rrs

[tribal cove]

dude i lITERALLY DONT KNOW WHAT TO GET MONARCH ON

[runic inlet]

what do u have

[peak solar]

save for 9.0

[tribal cove]

like i alr gt all these

[tribal cove]

thats a month at this rate

[runic inlet]

not a sneak in sight

[wicked isle]

Kaguya time babe

[tribal cove]

ever since i gt monarch on escanor i js dont even bother with sum else

[tribal cove]

dont gt kaguya.

[wicked isle]

Oh

My condolences

[tribal cove]

yea

[wicked isle]

Gojo?

[tribal cove]

i couldnt bear to get 2m currency in 2 days time

alr gt gojo too

[wicked isle]

Then get monarch on him fr fr B)

[tribal cove]

hell naahhh

u triPPIN

[wicked isle]

I meannnnn

[tribal cove]

NO

[wicked isle]

Time stop is still good

[tribal cove]

U ARE TRIPPIN

[wicked isle]

Time stop be stronk trust

[tribal cove]

i gt time maid and shiny diego

[runic inlet]

why is gilgamesh not doing tether cause he has like, chains of heaven or whatever

[wicked isle]

Yk what that means

[tribal cove]

so im gud alr

[wicked isle]

Time to grind for a shiny Gojo and get monarch on him

B)

[tribal cove]

yea no

[wicked isle]

Then he'll be cooler than shiny diego

[red spindle]

freddy fazbear should be the one who gets the next vanguard familiar

[tribal cove]

i gt monarch on yurichi on her out of boredom

1500 btw

[red spindle]

i dont even know who to monarch

[tribal cove]

exactly

[red spindle]

im waiting to see what new units are coming in 9.0

[wicked isle]

Me with my Alucard:

Legit spun on Alucard just for the heck of it knowing it wasnt even ideal

[red spindle]

i have marksman on my alucard

[wicked isle]

And it took me til pity

[tribal cove]

i gt monarch on alu in 13 rrs and gt him with 1480 gems

[wicked isle]

Heh, I got him in 40 by spamming single pulls B)

Single pull meta trust

[tribal cove]

w meta

[wicked isle]

But damn 13 rerolls

My earliest is like

21

[tribal cove]

oh nah my luckiest monarch was shiny grif

i gt him with 3-7

[wicked isle]

Damn

Gimme ur luck fam

[tribal cove]

lucky servers brochacho

[lost crest]

Maybe they should add pm

To piss off the community

And then compensate with a monarch ticket

Haha!

[wicked isle]

Potato Chips?

[tribal cove]

ok guys u will all decide my next monarch

[lost crest]

PROJECT MOON

LIMBUS COMPANY

[tribal cove]

shiny diogo
shiny ishtar
gilgamesh

[wicked isle]

Shiny Ishtar

Cuz she's cool like that

[tribal cove]

rs and she buffs

[wicked isle]

And she has absurd range

So she has to be good fr fr fr

[tribal cove]

im 400 in alr with gilga though

60 with ishtar.

[wicked isle]

Good

You'll get it early on ishtar trust

[tribal cove]

trust is crazy

[sick river]

ehhh

mid

type moon >>>>

like like

the nasuverse

[runic inlet]

do i play

[sick river]

like fate

fgo

play fgo

[runic inlet]

i bought lobotomy corp years ago but couldnt play it back then cause my pc was a potato

[wicked isle]

They should totally add my favorite project moon character

[raw slate]

chat should i waste 100 tokens on the familiar or gamble 100 rolls ?

[wicked isle]

The moon from Despicable Me

[runic inlet]

they should add roland and toji from aba

[tribal cove]

guys rate the build

[wicked isle]

Howbout Rick and Morty with Optimus Prime from Fortnite

[runic inlet]

we soloing planet namek act 1 with this one ‼️

[tribal cove]

hell yea we is

[wicked isle]

Yo @tribal cove

You have good shiny luck ye

Wish me luck

[tribal cove]

yea ggs

[tribal cove]

bro

[peak solar]

shiny incoming

[tribal cove]

no familiar on him is diabolical

[wicked isle]

I'm a purist

[tribal cove]

my escanor gt this one equipped

[wicked isle]

I believe true strength comes from within

And not from Fammy Lee Ars

[woeful basin]

better for kaguya no?

[tribal cove]

dont gt kaguya.

[wicked isle]

Rude.

[woeful basin]

my bad unc

[wicked isle]

He's already grieving the loss of his 5th grandmother

[woeful basin]

i just assumed evey1 got kaguya after pity was added

😔

[wicked isle]

You didnt have to bring up Kaguya around him

[tribal cove]

alr look

[runic inlet]

when they gonna add rebirth to av so i can lose all my units and gains +1 max level

[woeful basin]

+1 slot

[tribal cove]

i was not getting kaguya with 2m from pity in 47 hours time

[woeful basin]

i see

shame ig

[tribal cove]

2m is 2m

[woeful basin]

id assume youd have grinded for her earlier but whatever happened happened

not much can change now

[tribal cove]

i spent 2m before the 3m thing was added.

[woeful basin]

oh

yeah thats unl

[tribal cove]

eh its wtv

[woeful basin]

i mean imo pity shouldve never been a thing

but its cool

[tribal cove]

my friends gt like 7 of her lol

[woeful basin]

tradings bound to come out in 9.5 or 10

if she somehow still manages to be broken migh aswell ask for one

[tribal cove]

nah ts next year

[red spindle]

i actually cant wait for diego familiar in 2 years to be like: 2 seconds extra time stop

[woeful basin]

everything abt trading is done im pretty sure

[woeful basin]

they're just ensuring no bugs

[red spindle]

thats what they said when they were releasing pvp

look what happened to that on release

[tribal cove]

dawg

[woeful basin]

yeah but pvp is bound to have so many bugs

[tribal cove]

we aint talk abt that fr

it doesnt even work still

[red spindle]

lol

[runic inlet]

so is trading tbf

[red spindle]

i never played it since the first few matches i did on release

[woeful basin]

ay bro

it just worsens the vanguard rarity feeling but thats just me

[runic inlet]

trading is just gonna be a buggy mess with 50 dupe bugs and some bug that lets you steal people units

[wicked isle]

boo

[tribal cove]

nah ts was ruined when questlines were introduced.

[woeful basin]

yeah but pvp is much worse no?

its a whole gamemode that just sounds like it has a million issues

[woeful basin]

it shouldve been just vsjw

[viral thicket]

So?

I’ll never get people who is completely against trading

[tribal cove]

very

[south estuary]

Are we still on this?

[viral thicket]

Yet they can’t tell us a single game that died due to trading or the concept of it at least

[woeful basin]

its not even that icl

trading just feels nigh useless

[tribal cove]

tbh ion really care abt tradin

[woeful basin]

the only thing with value is diavolo

[viral thicket]

Not to the developers

[tribal cove]

i js want divaolo

[viral thicket]

Actually yeah you’re right on that part

Not many units got value

[tribal cove]

very

[sick river]

anime defenders was called alt defenders for a reason

[woeful basin]

i promise you i can get 20 escanors for a fiver

[viral thicket]

all because av don’t like to keep things rare

[runic inlet]

didn't say i was against trading, it just means more profit for me lol. I'm just stating the fact that its probably gonna be a buggy mess and kill the economy regardless

[woeful basin]

economy been dead cuz

[viral thicket]

Okay look AD didn’t die because of the concept of trading

It was more like they were allowing everything

[red spindle]

trading diavolo for 3 shiny escanors 3 shiny kaguyas and 20 shiny gogetas + the new bundles from this update and shiny hunter + vip

[viral thicket]

Farmable things being tradable

[sick river]

trading systems in these games are always so

[viral thicket]

So what?

[sick river]

almost predatory

i don't like them

[woeful basin]

the requirement was reach world 2 and hit lvl10

[viral thicket]

If anything they’re literally in 99% of the Roblox games

[woeful basin]

its bound to be alt farmed

[red spindle]

🤔

[tribal cove]

idk why we are arguin if trading will be added who knows ts might not even release in 6 months

[sick river]

not to mention the act that traders as part of the community are always corny

[viral thicket]

Don’t forget how many money it can bring in for the developers too

[sick river]

trading ain't getting added lol

[viral thicket]

What is this supposed to mean

[sick river]

that shit's a pipe dream

[viral thicket]

Just say ur against it no big deal

[tribal cove]

its the friends we made along the way

[red spindle]

would not be surprised if the devs just decided to not release trading at all

[sick river]

i am, actually

[sick river]

trading & guilds have been promised since the game's release btw

it's been a whole year

let's just wrap it up

[viral thicket]

guilds were never promised

[runic inlet]

traders are braindead in every game like this tbh and i don't actually like the act of trading itself, but i want trading to be added just so i can sell my dupes and get some of the lb/tournament units i missed

[sick river]

i remember when the devs said they had an update picked out to drop trading in in some stage

[tribal cove]

dude i JS WANT DIVAOLO LIKE LAST CASE SCENERIO HIS THE ONLY UNIT ONLY HAVING A SMALL VALUE
whats the value u may ask
well its a down bad state era unit

[sick river]

why the fuck does the lobby have a guilds section, then?

💀

[tribal cove]

i js want his cosmetic man...

[sick river]

truthful

[red spindle]

tbf it was never in the old lobby

[sick river]

his cosmetic goes really hard

[sick river]

but it is now

[red spindle]

so it technically was not promised

[sick river]

has been for a long time

it's been a planned feature

[woeful basin]

tbh ive never been in a guild in any td game

[tribal cove]

new lobby was added in 3 or 4.0 i think

[woeful basin]

what does ts even do

[sick river]

can't say

AV said that

[tribal cove]

js a fancy group with amigos

[sick river]

guilds in AV would be actually unique and special

[runic inlet]

come get some ✌️

[tribal cove]

bro i beg fr

[woeful basin]

erm

you go to touch grass and the grass runs away

😔

[red spindle]

2 diavolos is crazy

[tribal cove]

i will trade for that man

[viral thicket]

Doesn’t mean it was promised to us

[sick river]

kind of implies that it's planned to be added

no?

[woeful basin]

eh its prolly be something like guilds in clash

[sick river]

the "new" lobby's been a thing since the fate update

guilds have been there for quite some time

[red spindle]

place down ur units in base and have enemy guilds send it troops to take out their base

i think that would be fun

[sick river]

before odyssey was even unveiled, even

[woeful basin]

it does but they've never said they we're gonna release it early

it looks like just a plan for the future

[runic inlet]

2 more stages then i can have my vf gilgamid

[woeful basin]

albeit it is kinda useless

[sick river]

"early" and we're a year into the games lifespan

same shit w/ trading

[woeful basin]

what else r they gonna do with that area in the lobby

[woeful basin]

didnt owner change in like

janurary or some

[red spindle]

💔

[woeful basin]

i forogor

[sick river]

they confirmed shiny transfer to be added to the game in the last stage

[tribal cove]

ill prefer a gambling machine or a tic tac toe area ngl

[runic inlet]

my stench is unmatched

[sick river]

mark my words

[woeful basin]

just get the rerolls cuz

[sick river]

we aren't getting trading for at least half a year

minimum

[tribal cove]

more prob

[woeful basin]

i wouldnt be surprised if is upd 10

[sick river]

wait fuck i'm sleep deprived

[runic inlet]

i already monarch pitied on gil, im getting that familiar bro

[sick river]

i mean shiny transfer

[woeful basin]

[sick river]

we ain't getting trading for another year tho

trust

[woeful basin]

yeah but like

they're so against shiny transfer

for some reason

[sick river]

not anymore

[woeful basin]

so im not surprised it'll take long

[sick river]

they confirmed it to be coming to the game

[runic inlet]

then it comes out and theres some bug where people can somehow enter your inventory and take all your units 🥀

[sick river]

in the last stage

[woeful basin]

i mean this in the sense that they put it off for way to long

when it had no negatives

[tribal cove]

shiny transfer is comin to the game fr

[sick river]

we're DEFINITELY getting shiny transfer soon

[woeful basin]

its ok tho

[sick river]

just like how guilds are coming soon

[woeful basin]

im still using ts to get 5 rrs

[viral thicket]

But we don’t know when

[tribal cove]

but we are not gettin original shinies

[woeful basin]

😔

[sick river]

like the in-game sprite says they are

[tribal cove]

real brochacho

[runic inlet]

cant wait to transfer my shiny itadori, shiny aizen and shiny broly

wait nvm

i sacrificed my aizen

uhh

[red spindle]

no more manga sukuna

[runic inlet]

shiny cid then

[runic inlet]

shiny dmca

[tribal cove]

nah man i rembmr now

we are having original designs...

[red spindle]

very nice

[sick river]

Trading, guilds, shiny transfer

[woeful basin]

its not even that bad ibr

[sick river]

the big 3 of soon™

[red spindle]

also guys lets be honest lagshooter is going to be the most high valued thing in trading

[woeful basin]

its just gonna be the death of av

any td in general

[tribal cove]

hear me out

[woeful basin]

no

ccu was like high when cuzzo came out

no one was dumb enough to sacrifice him

[runic inlet]

can we post more gilgamesh slander images pls

[woeful basin]

right?

[red spindle]

its a joke

[red spindle]

u never know

i saw some dumbass sell their gilga

[runic inlet]

shiny lagshooter exists btw and is probably the rarest unit in the game

[red spindle]

for coins

[red spindle]

wtf

shiny dmca

[woeful basin]

shiny diavolo tho

🤔

[tribal cove]

what happened if the dmca was perfect timing to add shiny transfer
stay with me now
and they use it to advertise their original designs even more
an inside job ?
(obv its a joke but lowk might be the reason they finally decided to add transfer or when

[runic inlet]

probs up there in value with shiny diavolo and shiny seiko tbh

[sick river]

good night chat

[runic inlet]

its just inverted colours i think lol

[red spindle]

[red spindle]

[woeful basin]

nope

[runic inlet]

we ALL trading our kidney for shiny lagshooter

[woeful basin]

my shiny gojo is just normal dmca

[wicked isle]

Shiny Gojo btw

[woeful basin]

quicksold

[runic inlet]

its just for shiny lagshooter

[tribal cove]

unirioncly wat does lagshooter even do

i mean i have him.

[runic inlet]

shoots lag

[woeful basin]

oh

[wicked isle]

It exists

[woeful basin]

everything

[runic inlet]

and is the GOAT for quickplacing gohan

unless they patched that

[tribal cove]

how much to place?

[runic inlet]

100

[tribal cove]

YATTT

test rq

[woeful basin]

back onto gilgamesh tho

idk why people expected him to be top carry when hes exclusive

[tribal cove]

im gon have to thug it out and get monarch on him

[woeful basin]

when every top carry is obtainable in some way

[tribal cove]

and get vfam

[woeful basin]

😔

dont do this one

[runic inlet]

if he had a bit more dmg buff and didnt lose dmg from other units i wouldnt mind

[bold solar]

Worst mentality ever

This is why tower defense genre sucks

[tribal cove]

400 in rr alr..

[runic inlet]

maybe make his single target nuke be circle as well since its the same animation

[bold solar]

Exclusivity is an excuse for laziness and disrespect towards good characters

[woeful basin]

no but like

look at all the top carries rn

[tribal cove]

in other words gatekeepin

[woeful basin]

sukuna broly gogeta yhwach griffith

all are obtainable

[bold solar]

Yeah and if exclusive means they shouldnt be as good as non exclusives, then im droppin the game

[woeful basin]

buddy

[runic inlet]

they should have just never bothered with limited units in the first place if they were just gonna run with excuse of "oh well its limited so they wont get the same treatment as none limited characters"

[tribal cove]

i heard dio oh will be gettin his own rarity is it an excuse for more gatekeepin or else

[woeful basin]

think of it like this

[runic inlet]

why even bother rolling on limiteds atp

or investing anytime in them outside of obtainment

[woeful basin]

if high end content dps is locked to exclusives that are gigaold

people want rerun

what does rerun do?

[bold solar]

No?

[woeful basin]

get rid of exclusivity

[bold solar]

You can have meta limited and meta non limited

[tribal cove]

basically

[runic inlet]

i dont think people wanted him to be top 1 tho, just not worse than gojo

[tribal cove]

if av never had passives this game would be butchered on release

[woeful basin]

yeah but if hes actually as good as obtainable units while being arguably a little rare

[bold solar]

Worse than gojo is a crazy statement

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its kinda 😔

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The entire point

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he lowke is kinda worse than gojo

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Thats the WHOLE POINT OF EXCLUSIVE UNITS

AND TRADING

YOURE SUPPOSED TO BE SAD YOU DONT HAVE HIM