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#Buff/Rework Gilgamesh's familiar and WE NEED VALENTINE (PASSION) VFAMILIAR
dim trench
tall fiber
AND I MEANT STAR THE ACTUAL POST NOT THE FORWARD
faint swift
owner and dev whatever
rapid pecan
owner and dev whatever
Totally different but ok
timber sonnet
Same thing happened with Diavlo title
Pyseph got all mad because someone kept asking
sick river
so many devs for like roblox games n the like that i interact with are always like this and i have no clue as to why
there's no reason to be arrogant
fallen lance
I need shiny transfer so I can put my shiny dizzy onto my monarch one ✌️
forest quail
Same thing happened with Diavlo title
av devs vs accountability once again 😭
sick river
holier than thou mentality
tawny burrow
so many devs for like roblox games n the like that i interact with are always li...
they think theyre all that if they own or work on a bigger project
modern cloud
I need shiny transfer so I can put my shiny dizzy onto my monarch one ✌️
it’s getting added later
timber sonnet
theres no reason to treat criticism as below you
They always acted like this lol
peak solar
i sense an enkidu unit
faint swift
it’s getting added later
before or after next decade's trading update
modern cloud
before or after next decade's trading update
pretty sure next update with guild trust
foggy stump
if gilg's fam aint that good cuz hes limited, then all limited vanguard should stick to the original concept of them not being top meta and more into collectible according to this logic
or if not then gilga fam actually deserve a buff
faint swift
the big 3 of "never releasing for AV"
potential features
timber sonnet
the big 3 of "never releasing for AV"
Big 3 of devs are too lazy to add them
rapid pecan
guilds, trading, shiny transfer
Aren't all those confirmed
young bone
yeah
sick river
Aren't all those confirmed
confirmed trading and guilds on the game's release
rapid pecan
I know for sure 2 are idk about shiny
young bone
for 2077
modern cloud
Aren't all those confirmed
yea from upd 1 pretty sure except shiny transfer
sick river
that shit's gonna take ages
forest quail
never
modern cloud
when are they gonna add more emotes?
forest quail
until game reaches 10k ccu
rapid pecan
look at how long its been
Probably they are working on other things that are more important- tbh I think trading in roblox games are a shit idea but that's a different convo
warm trout
until game reaches 10k ccu
again
sick river
Probably they are working on other things that are more important- tbh I think t...
i agree entirely
faint swift
when are they gonna add more emotes?
they'll be in a $100 bundle take it or leave it
modern cloud
they'll be in a $100 bundle take it or leave it
escanor cursor
faint swift
LIMITED TIME BUNDLE
timber sonnet
they'll be in a $100 bundle take it or leave it
That won’t even work for the first week of the update
faint swift
cant forget the fomo
cursive mortar
Have you guys seen general? Anything with "buff gilga" is getting auto deleted
forest quail
in the same bundle
modern cloud
Have you guys seen general? Anything with "buff gilga" is getting auto deleted
wait ima try
faint swift
they god add vsjw skin and his cursor
any skin they make for vsjw will be better than that boring ass shiny
remote orbit
Have you guys seen general? Anything with "buff gilga" is getting auto deleted
They are silencing us bruh
tall fiber
when are they gonna add more emotes?
no you dont understand, they cant give us emotes OR mounts, they don't have the time! ignore that a mount is on the 10k robux bundle!
sick river
oh no its only red bc its replying to something im pretty sure
cursive mortar
sick river
ok
cursive mortar
oh no its only red bc its replying to something im pretty sure
No, I've got a discord add on
sick river
nevermind i guess
cursive mortar
Delete a message
cursive mortar
nevermind i guess
Delete this one
remote orbit
Yea the one where you can see deleted messages right?
sick river
No, I've got a discord add on
me too that's why im saying that
modest prism
Message logger
cursive mortar
Yea the one where you can see deleted messages right?
Yeah, and edited messages pre-edit
cursive mortar
me too that's why im saying that
ah okok
sick river
i stand corrected tho
remote orbit
I have it on my pc
timber sonnet
They legit always do this when they make bad decisions
remote orbit
They legit always do this when they make bad decisions
Yea it’s genuinely toxic
flint crescent
dude everyone in AC is saying the familiar is trash. If the only excuse is "Its an exclusive what did you expect" then why have a vanguard familiar in the first place.
Even mag
had to switch games
cause of ts
remote orbit
I feel like playing av is like being in a toxic relationship
cursive mortar
I feel like playing av is like being in a toxic relationship
Toxic relos treat you better, I speak from lots of experience
modern cloud
dude everyone in AC is saying the familiar is trash. If the only excuse is "Its ...
anime crusader?
flint crescent
anime crusader?
uh i dont know what game it is but uh let me see
sick river
the entire vfamiliar grind is starting to feel like a 9-5
flint crescent
tawny burrow
the entire vfamiliar grind is starting to feel like a 9-5
lazy way to have people play longer
faint swift
ohhh
flint crescent
yall got Mag switching games lmao
topaz gate
dude everyone in AC is saying the familiar is trash. If the only excuse is "Its ...
Because people cried for buffs to unobtainable units so a poll was made. The unit was never going to be top of meta, just genuinely usable again for the peole who invested into the unit beforehand.
modern cloud
yall got Mag switching games lmao
that looks like arx i think
sick river
rerunning is a taboo guys
timber sonnet
So y’all made the unit bad on purpose
sick river
we would never ever rerun a limited unit ever
timber sonnet
Instead of just rerunning the unit
sick river
we love the non-existent trading economy
tawny burrow
Because people cried for buffs to unobtainable units so a poll was made. The uni...
less dps with the vf than gogeta btw
rapid pecan
Anime ranger is like the worst tower defense oat
timber sonnet
Like the smart thing to do
tawny burrow
timber sonnet
Av devs are so stupid
forest quail
Because people cried for buffs to unobtainable units so a poll was made. The uni...
you getting paid extra to glaze?
shi i would too
timber sonnet
I think my 5 year old cousin can make better decisions then this
modest prism
Because people cried for buffs to unobtainable units so a poll was made. The uni...
Is usable in the room with us
misty dragon
Because people cried for buffs to unobtainable units so a poll was made. The uni...
but why give him a vf at all then
i get that this was an "example" of why it shouldn't be done, but wouldn't it have been better to just not do this and instead put that time and effort into literally anything else?
flint crescent
Because people cried for buffs to unobtainable units so a poll was made. The uni...
So Gojo, Tengen, and Sukuna are just the exception? Which happens to be all of the vanguard familiars? Gojo is meta for timestopping and freezing. Tegen is incredible for buffing fire and blast. Sukuna meta dps. So Gilgamesh just cant?
modern cloud
shi i would too
same
tawny burrow
you getting paid extra to glaze?
100 rrs per glaze message
forest quail
lol
flint crescent
but why give him a vf at all then
i get that this was an "example" of why it sho...
Exactly lmao why give him a VF in the first place if we're just tryna make him "usable"
remote orbit
Because people cried for buffs to unobtainable units so a poll was made. The uni...
Oh boy do I love it when the devs shit on the players when they made the poll, they chose the units in it, they choose the vf stats knowing it’s bad and releasing it anyways and then getting mad the community is mad the unit isn’t good!
misty dragon
this only just digs a grave and makes the community mad instead of standing on your past choices and not buffing limited units
sick river
Because people cried for buffs to unobtainable units so a poll was made. The uni...
this guy.... robot react them....
topaz gate
<:I_cute_confused:1315875212062887998> So Gojo, Tengen, and Sukuna are just the ...
Tell me, what do all three of those units have in common that Gilg doesn't?
flint crescent
can we not start an argument instead just hear their reason???
tawny burrow
this only just digs a grave and makes the community mad instead of standing on y...
too big of an ego unfortunately
flint crescent
Tell me, what do all three of those units have in common that Gilg doesn't?
Buff elements
timber sonnet
Tell me, what do all three of those units have in common that Gilg doesn't?
That they’re good
forest quail
Tell me, what do all three of those units have in common that Gilg doesn't?
ELEMENT BUFF
topaz gate
Buff elements
gojo doesn't buff elements lmao
forest quail
WHERE IS HIS 30% buff
sick river
but why give him a vf at all then
i get that this was an "example" of why it sho...
the devs love people pleasing
forest quail
and why tf does he slow
flint crescent
gojo doesn't buff elements lmao
Well two of them does. Gojo is a great timestopping
sick river
actually throwing slop at the community and hoping theyre satisfied
timber sonnet
and why tf does he slow
Because he has a stench aura
modern cloud
WHERE IS HIS 30% buff
the only reason i would genuinely use tbh
cursive mortar
and why tf does he slow
He means "why does he not slow enough", by the way, guys (sarcasm)
timber sonnet
That slows the enemy’s
topaz gate
The fact is all 3 of those units are permanently obtainable. Anybody can get the unit and get those familiars right now.
forest quail
ah yes i rmb when gilg slowed shirou down by 30%
timber sonnet
The fact is all 3 of those units are permanently obtainable. Anybody can get the...
Then just rerun the unit
misty dragon
the devs love people pleasing
they **certainly **made the right choice by doing this
lime sun
Why does Gilgamesh have slow
timber sonnet
It isn’t that hard to understand
timid drift
Tell me, what do all three of those units have in common that Gilg doesn't?
holy shit just do a vote to make him obtainable or not
topaz gate
If gilg was top meta with his vf, players would not be able to get the unit to use the familiar on
cursive mortar
holy shit just do a vote to make him obtainable or not
Qhar biggest redemption arc I'm ngl
forest quail
If gilg was top meta with his vf, players would not be able to get the unit to u...
too bad so sad
tawny burrow
If gilg was top meta with his vf, players would not be able to get the unit to u...
nobody asking for top meta mf READ
modest prism
Nobody asking him to be in top 3
forest quail
shoulda played earlier
timber sonnet
shoulda played earlier
Legit
topaz gate
Then just rerun the unit
He was told no reruns. That's not up to the players to decide.
timber sonnet
Why do new players have to be pleased
stiff crystal
He was told no reruns. That's not up to the players to decide.
but why
timid drift
He was told no reruns. That's not up to the players to decide.
players are the ones who trade the unit, NOT devs 😭
timber sonnet
He was told no reruns. That's not up to the players to decide.
That’s so fucking dumb
timid drift
what the fuck is this
ashen cradle
valk and I thought long about it
timber sonnet
Idk who said that
sick river
The fact is all 3 of those units are permanently obtainable. Anybody can get the...
gogeta was on the poll. monarch gilg with the vfamiliar does only slightly more (or less) dps than monarch gogeta. what the fuck kind of buff would gogeta have gotten? would he have just stayed the same????
signal hatch
Yhwach VF when
ashen cradle
we did our best
forest quail
He was told no reruns. That's not up to the players to decide.
it is when the game hits 5k ccu then they gon listen like good boys
ashen cradle
this is just how it has to be
timber sonnet
But they need to be fired and blacklisted
fallen lance
The familiar would’ve been 10x better if they just made it so he doesn’t get debuffed from units being near him lol
ashen cradle
tawny burrow
players are the ones who trade the unit, NOT devs 😭
devs care a lot about trade value for some reason while they still didnt add trading
🔥
ashen cradle
devs care a lot about trade value for some reason while they still didnt add tra...
cause its coming
?
remote orbit
The familiar would’ve been 10x better if they just made it so he doesn’t get deb...
Fr and like maybe make his nuke not single target
tawny burrow
cause its coming
coming in 15.0
timber sonnet
I bet valk is a Jeff player
topaz gate
gogeta was on the poll. monarch gilg with the vfamiliar does only slightly more ...
Probably not much, because gogeta really isn't in need of one rn. Gilg was legitimately unusable atp
fallen lance
Fr and like maybe make his nuke not single target
Does the familiar have a NP stack counter
modern cloud
gogeta was on the poll. monarch gilg with the vfamiliar does only slightly more ...
goatgeta most prob would’ve been busted if he got one
timber sonnet
Has zero critical thinking skills at all
stiff crystal
Like did he give any reason on why gilg can't get a rerun
ashen cradle
i dont even want trading but ur point makes no sense
remote orbit
cause its coming
Coming soon, they said it was gonna be out by update 5 bro
tawny burrow
still coming
how many rrs you getting to glaze
ashen cradle
how is that glaze
remote orbit
Does the familiar have a NP stack counter
I don’t think it shows it yet
floral sonnet
U was able to vote for rogita btw 😄😁😽
forest quail
how many rrs you getting to glaze
30
ashen cradle
U was able to vote for rogita btw 😄😁😽
outcome probably woulda been similar
south estuary
Should have voted for me instead
timber sonnet
U was able to vote for rogita btw 😄😁😽
They would’ve fucked over gogeta too
timid drift
trading value would make sense if the model wasn't dogshit
gilgamesh is gonna be a throwaway character when trading comes out now.
they absoloutely destroyed an amazing character with vanguard potential
remote orbit
U was able to vote for rogita btw 😄😁😽
Would’ve been the same
fallen lance
I don’t think it shows it yet
Idk why I’m at 60 instead of 80 coins tbh. I didn’t miss a day. If I do 25 now I’ll be at 80 but it should’ve been 100
tawny burrow
trading value would make sense if the model wasn't dogshit
gilgamesh is gonna be...
trading value would make sense if we had trading
remote orbit
Idk why I’m at 60 instead of 80 coins tbh. I didn’t miss a day. If I do 25 now I...
Dang
timber sonnet
They cant think for one second
modern cloud
Probably not much, because gogeta really isn't in need of one rn. Gilg was legit...
gilg wasn’t unusable he can execute at 10% non-boss
ashen cradle
anyways
sick river
cause its coming
just like how all the biome vote losers are "coming" to minecraft. eventually, right? we only gotta wait... checks watch... 3+ years, right?
woeful basin
trading value would make sense if the model wasn't dogshit
gilgamesh is gonna be...
gilgamesh isnt that much of a vanguard guy imo
young bone
gilg wasn’t unusable he can execute at 10% non-boss
useless
toxic igloo
gogeta was on the poll. monarch gilg with the vfamiliar does only slightly more ...
he would've slowed 100% not 50%
timber sonnet
gilg wasn’t unusable he can execute at 10% non-boss
Lol
ashen cradle
just like how all the biome vote losers are "coming" to minecraft. eventually, r...
so u want them to only release limited units after trading is out?
makes sense
sick river
so u want them to only release limited units after trading is out?
dont put words into my mouth
not what i said
warped mesa
Idk why I’m at 60 instead of 80 coins tbh. I didn’t miss a day. If I do 25 now I...
Runs don't count unless you go to the lobby btw, if you go past the event reset you get none if you did all the 25 at once without going to the lobby once
remote orbit
trading value would make sense if the model wasn't dogshit
gilgamesh is gonna be...
Yea he has no trading value, there was a bug where you could get 2 of him from the quest, also he was one of the easiest exclusives to get as well as him being out for like 3 months
timber sonnet
timid drift
gilgamesh isnt that much of a vanguard guy imo
fallen lance
Runs don't count unless you go to the lobby btw, if you go past the event reset ...
???? Oh nah
ashen cradle
suggestions is the same
woeful basin
devs care a lot about trade value for some reason while they still didnt add tra...
do we check stage notes perchance
fallen lance
So I just got screwed over
ashen cradle
sick river
"i like pancakes"
"so you dont like waffles?" headass
modern cloud
the other one is cause he is unob
agile adder
warped mesa
So I just got screwed over
Basically yes, i figured it out when it happened twice to me as well
timber sonnet
how is that the same thing
Poor thing
sick river
how is that the same thing
barright 💀
timber sonnet
Hes too stupid to understand it
fallen lance
Basically yes, i figured it out when it happened twice to me as well
I’d convert the 60 I have into rerolls, if I knew who to roll on
cursive mortar
Petition to change:
Repulse: to 300% slow for 1s
Stun: to 100% slow for x seconds
warped mesa
I’d convert the 60 I have into rerolls, if I knew who to roll on
which units do you have with monarch rn
toxic igloo
how would 300% slow work
woeful basin
Petition to change:
Repulse: to 300% slow for 1s
Stun: to 100% slow for x second...
what would be the point of the extra 200% slow?
tawny burrow
do we check stage notes perchance
remote orbit
Petition to change:
Repulse: to 300% slow for 1s
Stun: to 100% slow for x second...
And you have to solve for x bc they feel like it
ashen cradle
how would 300% slow work
stun
woeful basin
thats legit just a stun cuz
shadow sparrow
timber sonnet
Petition to change:
Repulse: to 300% slow for 1s
Stun: to 100% slow for x second...
I feel like we should change the slow for slow
cursive mortar
how would 300% slow work
The exact same as repulse. They get so slow they walk backwards
brazen ivy
at the end of the day its just anime
vanguards volks
cursive mortar
Trust guys, this will work
forest quail
how would 300% slow work
they so slow rhey walk backwards
modern cloud
how would 300% slow work
the enemy just become crippled
arctic blaze
The familiar so bad it made McReapers quit 
ashen cradle
yoo its ok
cursive mortar
I feel like we should change the slow for slow
No, are you dumb? You change slow to be a half-stun
toxic igloo
at the end of the day its just anime
vanguards volks
sukuna is still number one so did we lose much
ashen cradle
shiro ren will be comp
cold panther
tawny burrow
at the end of the day its just anime
vanguards volks
at the end of the day just play battle cats instead of this dogshit🔥
ashen cradle
dim trench
at the end of the day its just anime
vanguards volks
Wtf is more important than av??😭
fallen lance
which units do you have with monarch rn
VSJW, dizzy, lancer, gojo, Vergil, Mereleona , zeke, Griffith,
toxic igloo
SHIROU REN
timber sonnet
at the end of the day its just anime
vanguards volks
I thought this was Als with this level of decision making
ashen cradle
SHIROU REN
cut thru the void broo
remote orbit
Powerful hero can’t beat namek if he uses his nuke
brazen ivy
sukuna is still number one so did we lose much
paper lodge
are we still at it bro
timber sonnet
are we still at it bro
Yes
timid drift
at the end of the day its just anime
vanguards volks
they made gilgamesh into a dogshit character with 0 trading value bro
im angy
timber sonnet
This is going to go on for generations
remote orbit
are we still at it bro
Yes bro the gilga fam is bunions
faint swift
shirou ren..... shirou........ shirou emiya update 9!?!?!
topaz gate
they made gilgamesh into a dogshit character with 0 trading value bro
im angy
wdym made, bro already was that
young bone
toxic igloo
<a:classic:1278049578649780296>
and if yhwach ever comes back close to number 1
ashen cradle
they made gilgamesh into a dogshit character with 0 trading value bro
im angy
theres like 3 things with trade value
brazen ivy
they made gilgamesh into a dogshit character with 0 trading value bro
im angy
its ok im sure u have alot of other monarchs to use
cold panther
Powerful hero can’t beat namek if he uses his nuke
Lol
toxic igloo
diavolo
timber sonnet
its ok im sure u have alot of other monarchs to use
No I don’t
ashen cradle
😭
brazen ivy
Its just dia
warped mesa
VSJW, dizzy, lancer, gojo, Vergil, Mereleona , zeke, Griffith,
you could go for sukuna hes top 1 ingame rn or broly, since upd 9 will take a while due to the remodels 😭
ashen cradle
miku bro
timber sonnet
Its just dia
This is your fault
ashen cradle
miku skin
brazen ivy
no one really gonna trade for broly
timber sonnet
Legit
ashen cradle
and haruka
timber sonnet
Ban kamui
brazen ivy
they cooked the rates
timber sonnet
Lead tester for what
fallen lance
you could go for sukuna hes top 1 ingame rn or broly, since upd 9 will take a wh...
Don’t got itadori and my broly got deadeye rn so maybe broly…
toxic igloo
Its just dia
momo ayase
timber sonnet
What does he even do?
timid drift
wdym made, bro already was that
then change him
dim trench
Shiny pweeny
modern cloud
Powerful hero can’t beat namek if he uses his nuke
wait does he just become a single target for 30 sec
forest quail
saiko highest trade value
faint swift
pre trading shiny okarun for space ishtar (one at a time please)
ashen cradle
saiko highest trade value
cursive mortar
wait does he just become a single target for 30 sec
yes
forest quail
40 min run for 1% chance
brazen ivy
lowkey
topaz gate
then change him
They did. He's actually fairly usable outside of infs now.
young bone
brazen ivy
maybe slickwagon might go for a pretty penny
tawny burrow
then change him
no add a vf to a mid unit to not change his standing in the tierlists🔥
tall fiber
ashen cradle
trading 5 godbirbs for a unit u wont even use + it has a shit cosmetic
timber sonnet
They did. He's actually fairly usable outside of infs now.
Naw
forest quail
maybe slickwagon might go for a pretty penny
no
ashen cradle
woeful basin
i could get like any unit i want for like 5 trait rrs besides diavolo
timid drift
They did. He's actually fairly usable outside of infs now.
no he is not bruh
timber sonnet
brazen ivy
They did. He's actually fairly usable outside of infs now.
we gotta stop with this “hes usable” mumbo jumbo
dim lintel
remote orbit
wait does he just become a single target for 30 sec
30s is a long time it basically means they leave range
forest quail
They did. He's actually fairly usable outside of infs now.
fuck no
toxic igloo
we gotta stop with this “hes usable” mumbo jumbo
forest quail
all the summer banner units better than him
ashen cradle
limited units werent even supposed to get vf i think
remote orbit
They did. He's actually fairly usable outside of infs now.
He’s “useable” but so is every unit, you can pick to use every unit
faint swift
i mean a lot of units are "usable"
remote orbit
Doesn’t mean you want to
young bone
Every unit is usable doesn't mean hes good
forest quail
i swear the testers are boy toys
timber sonnet
limited units werent even supposed to get vf i think
Then don’t add them at all
fallen lance
Fairly usable and his competition is saber
modern cloud
30s is a long time it basically means they leave range
nvm he’s vf is ass
timber sonnet
Why tf did they add them
forest quail
the pay is good huh
modest prism
Gosh I love these keep them pumping out
woeful basin
this number is still so funny to me
timid drift
lower than a unit from 5.5 🤦♂️
timber sonnet
community asked for it
Then ignore them like they always do
woeful basin
"unit is gonna be peak with vf"
ashen cradle
like they always do
dim lintel
Gosh I love these keep them pumping out
Igu bro
fallen lance
lower than a unit from 5.5 🤦♂️
Baiken better than bro 🥀
tawny burrow
this number is still so funny to me
he also got some cc shit and like
tender flare
@topaz gate ive asked this before bro IS THE SLOW STACKING INTENTIONAL
tawny burrow
why
topaz gate
we gotta stop with this “hes usable” mumbo jumbo
"Comp viable" isn't everything that matters. He sure as shit wasn't very viable beforehand
signal hatch
"VF was made to make the units usable again!" they said
tawny burrow
"Comp viable" isn't everything that matters. He sure as shit wasn't very viable ...
still isnt
woeful basin
he also got some cc shit and like
starrk all over again
remote orbit
this number is still so funny to me
Bro got revived with no limbs
timber sonnet
"Comp viable" isn't everything that matters. He sure as shit wasn't very viable ...
He isn’t viable now
timber sonnet
Why would I use him over any other unit
brazen ivy
starrk all over again
Nah thats different
tawny burrow
is he not?
not really
remote orbit
is he not?
All units are useable just aren’t good
forest quail
that slow is js so random tho
he’s ass
brazen ivy
is he not?
nah hes not
forest quail
any other unit can do what he does but 3x bettee
young bone
All units are useable just aren’t good
Bro stole my line 😭
modern cloud
starrk all over again
if look at the tier list starkk is still better lmao
fallen lance
He doesn’t even need a crazy buff, just replace the 2s boss stun with him not being debuffed by his passive
sick river
is he not?
same DPS as monarch ssj4 gogeta bte
brazen ivy
he has like 70k dps with ideal circumstances 
timid drift
"Comp viable" isn't everything that matters. He sure as shit wasn't very viable ...
hes not usable
sick river
no hes not usable
topaz gate
Why would I use him over any other unit
Because maybe you invested into him a while ago when you first got him?
sick river
hes fucking horrible
remote orbit
Bro stole my line 😭
Mb it was just so good I had to borrow it permanently
woeful basin
if look at the tier list starkk is still better lmao
i mean this in the way thatt
cursive mortar
Sure, he's usable. But.. for how long? This is his LIFTER. If he gets powercrept back into complete uselessness next update, what's the point?
young bone
Mb it was just so good I had to borrow it permanently
Lmao
ashen cradle
same DPS as monarch ssj4 gogeta bte
he was fated to be ass considering he was one of andre's creations
woeful basin
starrk has cc cause he shoots guns ype shit
ashen cradle
that being said i will NOT be using him
tawny mango
can i use gigglemesh in namak 1 
forest quail
but this made him slightly better
an inch bettee
agile adder
dense storm
any other unit can do what he does but 3x bettee
"Oh but Gilgamesh is perfect at boss killing and support!"
Goblin Slayer and Priestess together hearing this:
forest quail
phew i can finally use gilg to kill this difficult 100k hp boss
young bone
I have monarch gilga too but it just feels so mid
I was preaching that once he got a familiar id never let him off the team now I just dont want him on the team
dim lintel
this might be the only tmie als wins 🤔
remote orbit
Because maybe you invested into him a while ago when you first got him?
Then just don’t announce it’s happening and don’t make it take 5 days for engagement bait and make people invest in him because the other vf set a high standard
signal hatch
this might be the only tmie als wins 🤔
Count ASTD OG ALSO LMAO
timber sonnet
blame andre
Blame the old devs for mistakes the new devs can fix easily
faint swift
this might be the only tmie als wins 🤔
awtd gilgamesh gaps both
timber sonnet
ashen cradle
Blame the old devs for mistakes the new devs can fix easily
can fix easily
toxic igloo
this might be the only tmie als wins 🤔
you cannot post this gng 🥀
woeful basin
hey atleast he has an execute for high lb or inf runs
tall fiber
Count ASTD OG ALSO LMAO
EVEN ASTD GAVE HIM A 7 STAR
ashen cradle
and by easily u mean making the unit not limited anymore
woeful basin
ashen cradle
and completely reworking him
remote orbit
I was preaching that once he got a familiar id never let him off the team now I ...
Yea it’s like why make him this bad
ashen cradle
instead of working on new content
brazen ivy
ashen cradle
dense storm
Gilgamesh seeing his own VF being nothing but a support giver and a mid boss killer at best
toxic igloo
Gilgamesh seeing his own VF being nothing but a support giver and a mid boss kil...
WHO drew this
dense storm
https://tenor.com/view/speed-considering-ishowspeed-rubbing-chin-thinking-gif-16...
That's me bro
toxic igloo
dense storm
WHO drew this
IDK BRO
topaz gate
Then just don’t announce it’s happening and don’t make it take 5 days for engage...
Nobody "made" anybody invest in him. If you rolled on the unit before even finding out what the VF did, that's entirely on you
tawny burrow
Nobody "made" anybody invest in him. If you rolled on the unit before even findi...
how much they paying you to glaze
signal hatch
Gilgamesh seeing his own VF being nothing but a support giver and a mid boss kil...
Bad day to be a Gilgamesh D rider
timber sonnet
how much they paying you to glaze
2 robux a year
woeful basin
good to see so many people wasting rrs on mid 😭
forest quail
man love this community man this brings me to tears
upbeat bronze
Nobody "made" anybody invest in him. If you rolled on the unit before even findi...
i mean all the previous VFs were strong and its a Vanguard rarity, u cant really say that
remote orbit
Nobody "made" anybody invest in him. If you rolled on the unit before even findi...
Bro idk if you are understanding, they set a standard for vf so obv they are gonna invest assuming he meets the standard
toxic igloo
what is this for
fallen lance
Nobody "made" anybody invest in him. If you rolled on the unit before even findi...
Expectations. The last 3 familiars were amazing
dim lintel
what is this for
is that als
forest quail
what is this for
SOUL EATER
faint swift
what is this for
uh christmas event
young bone
Bad day to be a Gilgamesh D rider
Every day is a bad day to be a glazer and Nasu hates us. Today is just an awful day.
tall fiber
Nobody "made" anybody invest in him. If you rolled on the unit before even findi...
WE WAITED FOUR DAYS, GOT THE FAMILIAR (BECAUSE YOU CANT VIEW IT BEFORE OBTAINMENT FOR NO REASON), AND ITS ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
timber sonnet
what is this for
That’s the place from soul eater
forest quail
THATS FROM SOUL EATER LETS GO
forest quail
its for als 🥀
oh 😭
hollow saffron
Nobody "made" anybody invest in him. If you rolled on the unit before even findi...
blame the community for getting hyped of something is not their fault
ashen cradle
uh christmas event
are u fr
tawny burrow
WE WAITED FOUR DAYS, GOT THE FAMILIAR (BECAUSE YOU CANT VIEW IT BEFORE OBTAINMEN...
its just glaze
theres no logic behind those words
forest quail
i thought av was gonna cook for once
signal hatch
Every day is a bad day to be a glazer and Nasu hates us. Today is just an awful ...
"Nasu give me feats and Could've statements!"
topaz gate
i mean all the previous VFs were strong and its a **Vanguard** rarity, u cant re...
I mean, I can. I wouldn't have rolled on any of the other units before getting the familiar or at least seeing what it did first.
forest quail
i was wrong once again
hollow saffron
av testers when they realize hype exist
dim lintel
Nobody "made" anybody invest in him. If you rolled on the unit before even findi...
i mean there was high expectations cause of sukuna and other stuff
remote orbit
Dude I swear some of these testers bro
timber sonnet
its just glaze
theres no logic behind those words
Nether is a ai robot written by the devs to glaze them to the ends of the earth
sick river
Nobody "made" anybody invest in him. If you rolled on the unit before even findi...
anything but disagreeing with the devs even once
forest quail
I mean, I can. I wouldn't have rolled on any of the other units before getting t...
or 3rd option dont make his vf ass
faint swift
als almost reaped my soul with that final fantasy update but i resisted the temptation to begin playing ts
hollow saffron
nether is valk security guard
topaz gate
If people expected gilg to be anywhere near sukuna tier while being unobtainable, they're crazy lmao
upbeat bronze
I mean, I can. I wouldn't have rolled on any of the other units before getting t...
well imagine if broly was horrid, would u blame the players for rolling on broly before the meta settled?
timid drift
i will not be surprsied if nether replaces kamui for lead tester
sick river
same guy btw
timid drift
the glaze is insane
remote orbit
If people expected gilg to be anywhere near sukuna tier while being unobtainable...
No people expected him to be near gojo
young bone
well imagine if broly was horrid, would u blame the players for rolling on broly...
"Of course." -NotTheOneToAsk 2025
remote orbit
same guy btw <:tsinsanevro:1402235987878477835>
Fr bruh
upbeat bronze
If people expected gilg to be anywhere near sukuna tier while being unobtainable...
ya'll are really inconsistent in this
40% of the meta tier is unob?
tall fiber
same guy btw <:tsinsanevro:1402235987878477835>
its always the testers that pmo in this community
remote orbit
Like what is this guy talking about bro
tawny burrow
If people expected gilg to be anywhere near sukuna tier while being unobtainable...
nobody said anything about sukuna tier
but hes not even gogeta tier
timid drift
same guy btw <:tsinsanevro:1402235987878477835>
testers when the community is unhappy:
forest quail
its always the testers that pmo in this community
they are personal boy toys
tame sphinx
Chat is the NP stacks affect all enemies individually cuz it's single target or only for bosses
forest quail
getting paid 5 rr a minute
remote orbit
Kaguya, escanor both meta, both unob soon
tender flare
same guy btw <:tsinsanevro:1402235987878477835>
yeah me and the devs have been having a good laugh
signal hatch
If we want justice make this as his caster SHINY 
timber sonnet
If we want justice make this as his caster SHINY <:cry:1239152574171713607>
Why is his grippers out
upbeat bronze
also the problem is that he doesnt do anything special theres no niche for him, all tue previous vanguard familiars had something that made them unique in a team, gilgamesh is just 2 different mediocre passives in 1 unit @topaz gate
stiff crystal
If we want justice make this as his caster SHINY <:cry:1239152574171713607>
you rlly think they’re adding caster gilg lol
dim lintel
same guy btw <:tsinsanevro:1402235987878477835>
young bone
Chat is the NP stacks affect all enemies individually cuz it's single target or ...
The nuke is single target the stacks are for everytime he attacks
woeful basin
just scrap fate and do a 3rd db upd and give us another gogeta monarch ✌️
topaz gate
anything but disagreeing with the devs even once
I do disagree with them on a fair bit. Like trading. I think it's a shit system and the game should've never geared towards it. It's the main reason why corruption has to be so ass and why familiar rolling and grinding is ass.
faint swift
yeah me and the suggesters are having a good laugh
tawny burrow
glaze 24/7 thats what
signal hatch
you rlly think they’re adding caster gilg lol
With all my soul they will
modest prism
😭😭
agile adder
young bone
You know what
timid drift
I do disagree with them on a fair bit. Like trading. I think it's a shit system ...
saying ANYTHING to deflect the glaze allgetaions
dense storm
Gilgamesh trying to join the actual good VFs trio but he can't since he is worse than Units from update 5.5:
hollow saffron
I do disagree with them on a fair bit. Like trading. I think it's a shit system ...
mf is now blaming trading
forest quail
saying ANYTHING to deflect the glaze allgetaions
LOL
signal hatch
Why is his grippers out
Basically a fan art IF Gilgamesh followed the Gods🥹
tall fiber
I do disagree with them on a fair bit. Like trading. I think it's a shit system ...
"we shouldve never geared towards a system that was promised a year ago"
tender flare
Gilgamesh trying to join the actual good VFs trio but he can't since he is worse...
tengon aint dat good tbh
forest quail
man mr tester give up bro
tawny burrow
saying ANYTHING to deflect the glaze allgetaions
ANYTHING but disagreeing with the devs for once
remote orbit
I do disagree with them on a fair bit. Like trading. I think it's a shit system ...
And you are arguing because a limited unit is limited it shouldn’t be good when most limited units are good?
topaz gate
saying ANYTHING to deflect the glaze allgetaions
Gang I quite literally couldn't give two shits less if you call me glazer, it doesn't matter at all. 
remote orbit
tengon aint dat good tbh
He’s doing 100k dps btw and only 50k for full aoe
dense storm
tengon aint dat good tbh
Look at the tier list bro, he is better because he is a sub DPS and a good support for meta units
timber sonnet
ANYTHING but disagreeing with the devs for once
Someone needs to make the meme with bitch I’d rather die
forest quail
I do disagree with them on a fair bit. Like trading. I think it's a shit system ...
u know you secretly agree his familiar is ass
tall fiber
tengon aint dat good tbh
he buffs kaguya by 60% (one of the best units in the game)
timber sonnet
But with nether
dense storm
But Gilga is just a Katakuri with DPS
tender flare
he buffs kaguya by 60% (one of the best units in the game)
kaguya is bunz
upbeat bronze
Gang I quite literally couldn't give two shits less if you call me glazer, it do...
Do you not agree that gilgamesh is underwhelming though
hollow saffron
Gang I quite literally couldn't give two shits less if you call me glazer, it do...
mf you blaming trading when you guys are the ones who created birb
hollow saffron
topaz gate
u know you secretly agree his familiar is ass
Nah, I think his familiar's fine. I genuinely think he's in a good spot now.
tawny burrow
Gang I quite literally couldn't give two shits less if you call me glazer, it do...
doesnt matter cause youll keep glazing just as you do now
forest quail
Gang I quite literally couldn't give two shits less if you call me glazer, it do...
yes you do
forest quail
Nah, I think his familiar's fine. I genuinely think he's in a good spot now.
don’t lie be true with your self
ashen cradle
its js escanor vs shields again
ashen cradle
upbeat bronze
Nah, I think his familiar's fine. I genuinely think he's in a good spot now.
whats his niche? whats the team that you would use him in that no other unit could fill
stiff crystal
Bro I promise you if do a poll on rerunning gilg most of the gilg owners are voting yes
forest quail
you like danm they lowk right why am i glazing
stiff crystal
i see no issue with it
topaz gate
don’t lie be true with your self
That is being true, dunno what else you want me to say
all ik is that this whole fiasco has been hella funny to watch tonight
forest quail
That is being true, dunno what else you want me to say
say it’s ass
tame sphinx
JUSTICE FOR GILGAMESH SHE WAS MY VERY FIRST MONARCH (3.5)
hollow saffron
That is being true, dunno what else you want me to say
not even the best in the stage were the main deal is a boss
stiff crystal
Yall are so stuck on trading its pissing me off
topaz gate
say it’s ass
you told me not to lie
fallen lance
JUSTICE FOR GILGAMESH SHE WAS MY VERY FIRST MONARCH (3.5)
SHE?
tawny burrow
That is being true, dunno what else you want me to say
bro is FRIGTHENED to see that paycheck cut in half
magic glade
Bru what yall expected for gilgamesh to be top 1 meta gng he’s a limited that would be goofy 😭
tame sphinx
GILGAMESH IS ONLY GOOD FOR HER NUKE
sick river
all ik is that this whole fiasco has been hella funny to watch tonight
because belittling the games community once again is an amazing idea
upbeat bronze
@topaz gate how about asking the devs to rerun gigamesh and buffing/reworking the familiar
topaz gate
bro is FRIGTHENED to see that paycheck cut in half
what paycheck lol
timber sonnet
what paycheck lol
The 2 robux you get every year
tawny burrow
what paycheck lol
keep denying it bud
topaz gate
<@79327043182919680> how about asking the devs to rerun gigamesh and buffing/rew...
they already said no to rerunning, they're the ones that decided it
hollow saffron
nether is actually valk in another acc
forest quail
what paycheck lol
we know you get paid 5 rr a minute
remote orbit
Yall are so stuck on trading its pissing me off
The whole dev team gears units with the idea of trading when trading isn’t out yet and prob won’t be out for another 2 years
tall fiber
Bru what yall expected for gilgamesh to be top 1 meta gng he’s a limited that wo...
HES WORSE THAN A 8 MONTH OLD UNITTTTTT
dense storm
Bru what yall expected for gilgamesh to be top 1 meta gng he’s a limited that wo...
nice ragebait bro
sick river
y'all need to get ur sticks out of ur asses i'm ngl
as in testers and devs
upbeat bronze
they already said no to rerunning, they're the ones that decided it
they as in the devs?
forest quail
put me on
sick river
both of them
tender flare
because belittling the games community once again is an amazing idea
i mean people are lowkey getting heated
signal hatch
Telling y'all they tryna be different by making him support "Meta"🥹
topaz gate
they as in the devs?
yes lmao
modern cloud
pretty sure dev don’t really listen to anyone tbh
magic glade
nice ragebait bro
I have monarch Gilgamesh it’s not ragebait
forest quail
i’ll be the besr glazer
young bone
He doesn't have to be meta itd be nice if was but that's not the be all end all
peak solar
woah what happened i thought this chat was closed
timber sonnet
woah what happened i thought this chat was closed
Re opened
forest quail
woah what happened i thought this chat was closed
idk
ashen cradle
pretty sure dev don’t really listen to anyone tbh
remote field
that theyre mad over a blonde little fella in an atd game
Why u playing that td game
timid drift
woah what happened i thought this chat was closed
figg lost aura
stiff crystal
woah what happened i thought this chat was closed
it got reopened
hollow saffron
mf gilgamesh is barely ussable
next update he will become useless again
modest prism
i’ll be the besr glazer
100 rr bonus for making people believe it is good
timber sonnet
Person who closed it got vetoed and lost aura
dim lintel
Bru what yall expected for gilgamesh to be top 1 meta gng he’s a limited that wo...
no one expected him to be top 1 meta
remote orbit
Bru what yall expected for gilgamesh to be top 1 meta gng he’s a limited that wo...
Not even, just gojo/tengon level would completely revitalize the unit
topaz gate
ik gilg already basically didn't have value, but rerunning even just one unit sets a precedent that any other limited units, current or future, could at any time suddenly not be truly limited
modern cloud
woah what happened i thought this chat was closed
it got reopen
faint swift
they've said a lot of stuff they went back on
yeah but the difference is that the game isnt at 10k players anymore
dense storm
I have monarch Gilgamesh it’s not ragebait
Congrats bro, you got a mid ass boss killer with support capabilities, even though he is not that 💀
peak solar
sick river
ik gilg already basically didn't have value, but rerunning even just one unit se...
is this really such a bad thing?
polar dagger
Bru what yall expected for gilgamesh to be top 1 meta gng he’s a limited that wo...
If he was n1 meta you’d be like: “yeah he’s op sure but he’s unob so there’s no problem with how busted he is”like man if you disagree that’s fine but please have proper reasoning
shut pawn
figg lost aura
nah I was playing
brazen ivy
figg has no aura
timber sonnet
Figg has zero aura
tawny burrow
timid drift
ik gilg already basically didn't have value, but rerunning even just one unit se...
i don't think people will complain about a worthless limited unit coming back, look at als they've done it multiple times and the community have enjoyed it
dim trench
figg has no aura
Figg is aura✅
toxic igloo
I mean his name is figg not aura so…
tender flare
Why u playing that td game
well im just saying personally idrc if hes bunz or not its just funny seeing people getting heated at this
polar dagger
Congrats bro, you got a mid ass boss killer with support capabilities, even thou...
He has 30% slow on attack (saber alt has a full aoe continuous 30% slow)
sick river
why does limited have to mean "never returning ever"
dim trench
Wait was that cold
timber sonnet
Figg is aura✅
Holy glaze
dim trench
That was cold
signal hatch
mf gilgamesh is barely ussable
next update he will become useless again
Having the same fate as his release is wild
remote orbit
i don't think people will complain about a worthless limited unit coming back, l...
Yea
upbeat bronze
guys dw, obito familiar will be good
faint swift
figg pmo icl ts -1000 aura 💔
remote orbit
Holy qhar comeback bro
true gyro
Figg is aura✅
❌
toxic igloo
guys dw, obito familiar will be good
young bone
Even if you made him strong and no one could get him anymore there are plenty of other units new players could get
agile adder
What are yall on? gilg vf is goated its even better that sukuna’s vf
dense storm
He has 30% slow on attack (saber alt has a full aoe continuous 30% slow)
Brother nobody cares about 30% slow on this mid ass old unit 🥀
toxic igloo
use a color dropper gng please
faint swift
guys dw, obito familiar will be good
no slow = WE dont want it
dense storm
What are yall on? gilg vf is goated its even better that sukuna’s vf
BRO? 💀
true gyro
Can you free gu_56
no man
timid drift
is this precedent really that important if almost all of the community hates it?
flint crescent
He has 30% slow on attack (saber alt has a full aoe continuous 30% slow)
Salter has 20% slow. not 30.
modest prism
guys dw, obito familiar will be good
Add the 1000% slow man
stiff crystal
guys dw, obito familiar will be good
where is does black flames if itachi is in range
peak solar
guys dw, obito familiar will be good
no slow? or followup attacks? 🤦♂️
magic glade
If he was n1 meta you’d be like: “yeah he’s op sure but he’s unob so there’s no ...
Bro u gotta rewrite this iton make sense
polar dagger
Brother nobody cares about 30% slow on this mid ass old unit 🥀
Exactly, the entirety of the second passive is lazy given the name “king of hero’s”
dim lintel
guys dw, obito familiar will be good
wheres the 10 follow up attacks?
stiff crystal
What are yall on? gilg vf is goated its even better that sukuna’s vf
what is this bro
modern cloud
Salter has 20% slow. not 30.
20% continuous slow as long in range so still better tbh
forest quail
rage bait
dense storm
Exactly, the entirety of the second passive is lazy given the name “king of hero...
That's why my goat is just the personification of buns
timber sonnet
who cares bro
Obama
stiff crystal
fix diavolo
too much work
flint crescent
20% continuous slow as long in range so still better tbh
Trust me gang I used to use Salter all the time cuz I have monarch on her, you barely can tell the difference on the slow
😭
ashen cradle
too much work
nah
tall fiber
ik gilg already basically didn't have value, but rerunning even just one unit se...
if youre ever to rerun exclusive units, separate them by making the return of the unit as a secret or mythic. value stays the same, but the unit can be used to benefit everyone and bring more opportunities for more buffs to that unit (ex: gilgamesh getting a vanguard evo).
no one will be mad if yall do this, especially because of how much benefits it could bring ^
modest prism
Trust me gang I used to use Salter all the time cuz I have monarch on her, you b...
Fr
ashen cradle
if youre ever to rerun exclusive units, separate them by making the return of th...
wait so make the same unit but secret?
stiff crystal
still meta
we all using ishtar
ashen cradle
so u can js get it without trading
tall fiber
wait so make the same unit but secret?
yes
polar dagger
Bro u gotta rewrite this iton make sense
I’m saying that if he wants to disagree atleast give proper reasoning, the way he said it makes it seem like “I don’t know why you guys are surprised I knew this all along” when obviously it isn’t the cases
hollow saffron
Trust me gang I used to use Salter all the time cuz I have monarch on her, you b...
but you can tell how her aura kill your fps
topaz gate
if youre ever to rerun exclusive units, separate them by making the return of th...
That's not how that works, the value fundamentally would not be the same
tall fiber
so u can js get it without trading
yes
flint crescent
but you can tell how her aura kill your fps
my computer doesnt show that...
timber sonnet
why would u trade for it then
Aura
faint swift
we all using ishtar
especially with gilgamesh being "usable"
timid drift
That's not how that works, the value fundamentally would not be the same
ALS literally did this with shiny yuta and he's still the most valubale unit in the game brah oh my goddd
topaz gate
The value is based on supply and demand. Even if you rerun the unit as a different rairty, you're still increasing the supply of the unit
stiff crystal
especially with gilgamesh being "usable"
the 15% buff is helping
hollow saffron
my computer doesnt show that...
my phone go from 40 to 20
polar dagger
fix diavolo
The 3 diavolo owners chant in succession
ashen cradle
ur reacting but how does that make sense
sick river
why would u trade for it then
what an intelligent individual
ashen cradle
😭
forest quail
The value is based on supply and demand. Even if you rerun the unit as a differe...
gilg has no demand he’s ass
topaz gate
That's not the point
tawny burrow
The value is based on supply and demand. Even if you rerun the unit as a differe...
whats the demand for gilga
especially now that his vf was revealed to be dogshit
dense storm
WE ALL JUST WANTED GILGAMESH TO BE BETTER BRO, NOTHING ELSE 😭
tawny burrow
NONE
forest quail
💀
ashen cradle
Why would they trade for him before
because theres no other way to get it?
dim lintel
is this real leak of obito vf
timber sonnet
It legit changes nothing
agile adder
When VF for Rengoku?
ashen cradle
thats how value and demand works
tall fiber
why would u trade for it then
people who owned the exxclusive gilgamesh keep their same valued unit, and can still benefit from familiar buffs, ALSO, if you rerolled on the original unit, you dont have to reroll on the new version
young bone
No the point is nothing we say matters until it hurts the devs wallets
remote field
The value is based on supply and demand. Even if you rerun the unit as a differe...
Yh cuz we running a whole economy in a tower defense game
hollow saffron
The value is based on supply and demand. Even if you rerun the unit as a differe...
you killed the only way he could get any demand
stiff crystal
is this real leak of obito vf
this peak
timid drift
is this real leak of obito vf
peak
timber sonnet
because theres no other way to get it?
Why would you want a useless bitch less aura less unit
hollow saffron
congratulations
topaz gate
Saying "rerunning a unit under a different rarity tag wouldn't affect the unit's value" is just factually incorrect
faint swift
is this real leak of obito vf
yeah cus theres slow in the passives
ashen cradle
people who owned the exxclusive gilgamesh keep their same valued unit, and can s...
that destroys the trade value tho no?
topaz gate
It very much does affect the unit
tall fiber
that destroys the trade value tho no?
no, exclusives are still the same rarity
ashen cradle
Why would you want a useless bitch less aura less unit
forest quail
It very much does affect the unit
he’s ass so it don’t matter
tawny burrow
all of this could be avoided if the vf was just good
forest quail
why trade for a shitty unit
dim lintel
https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-funny-sponge...
whats the context
topaz gate
I don't care for trading at all, but I can at least grasp the most basic of concepts like that
dense storm
ashen cradle
idk
tawny mango
if youre ever to rerun exclusive units, separate them by making the return of th...
rarity does not determine value
forest quail
he’s just a dust collector
hollow saffron
make the vf good and add fucking trading already
polar dagger
gilg has no demand he’s ass
Gilgamesh was doing around 40k raw dmg and 110k+ with nuke, he was alr and now he’s still just alr. Not asking him to be meta but jeez man the name of the item is “vanguard familier” it made sukuna from a falling off meh unit to debatably one of the best in game
wicked isle
Yk, with the VF being leaked a few days prior to its official release, I'd assume the devs would at least tweak it after seeing all the negative reactions to it, but ah well
dim lintel
all of this could be avoided if the vf was just good
u mean this could have been avoided if i decided vf stats
agile adder
ashen cradle
kamui1. go do something bro
forest quail
Gilgamesh was doing around 40k raw dmg and 110k+ with nuke, he was alr and now h...
wow my guts is better
no need for him
ashen cradle
go visit ur grandkids
dense storm
tawny burrow
u mean this could have been avoided if i decided vf stats
couldve been avoided if it was anyone other than valk
ashen cradle
or sum
brazen ivy
kamui1. go do something bro
noo
dim lintel
couldve been avoided if it was anyone other than valk
true true true
young bone
true true true
Why didnt we get the dev who liked fate to do the familiar
hollow saffron
betray valk and chain him in the av afk chamber for 1000 years
remote field
stiff crystal
who making these memes
faint swift
Why didnt we get the dev who liked fate to do the familiar
and a fate update part 3-7
timid drift
Saying "rerunning a unit under a different rarity tag wouldn't affect the unit's...
it wouldn't effect his value because there was never one to exist
forest quail
who making these memes
keep em coming
toxic igloo
that didn’t work
polar dagger
Maybe it’s just a passive situation where he isn’t as bad as he seems but I can’t be the only one when anime vanguards just makes a mediocre unit that gets carried by its passives and expects us to instantly praise it as if we’re not allowed to give criticism
forest quail
having a good laugh
forest quail
Maybe it’s just a passive situation where he isn’t as bad as he seems but I can’...
nah he’s just ass
stiff crystal
If we being fr
sick river
Maybe it’s just a passive situation where he isn’t as bad as he seems but I can’...
cook
peak solar
forest quail
30 Slow omg
hollow saffron
%30 slow and 2 second stun in it meta ain't helping him
tender flare
Maybe it’s just a passive situation where he isn’t as bad as he seems but I can’...
isnt every unit carried by its passives
topaz gate
it wouldn't effect his value because there was never one to exist
Again, that wasn't my point at all. But I'm expecting too much with reading atp 
toxic igloo
don’t worry cha will be goated
stiff crystal
bro has no reason to be limited in the first place
sick river
devs n testers only care about community input when the CCU drops and any other time we don't matter in the slightest and we're apparently laughed at
dense storm
OH MY GOD, I'M GILGAMESH, I HAVE A 30% SLOW ON NON BOSSES ENEMIES, AND AN USELESS STUN ON BOSSES, EVEN THOUGH TECHNICALLY STUN IS WORSE THAN SLOW 😎
sick river
devs n testers only care about community input when the CCU drops and any other ...
it's such an echo chamber that they exist in
tender flare
devs n testers only care about community input when the CCU drops and any other ...
idk theyve never done this they just do stuff whenever they want all the time and it just happens to work
remote field
don’t worry cha will be goated
Yh g keep dreaming atp they gon make her do 100 percent chance to stun for 0.1 sec but 40%slow
tawny burrow
devs n testers only care about community input when the CCU drops and any other ...
they have to put their ego aside to save the game
tender flare
ion think ive seen an event suggestion before
hollow saffron
doesn't the vf make him worse in general because his stun/slow can conflict other supports units with better cc abilities
dim lintel
upbeat bronze
dw guys gogeta familiar willl have 1000 follow ups!
sick river
they have to put their ego aside to save the game
as they've begrudgingly done before, clearly
timid drift
Again, that wasn't my point at all. But I'm expecting too much with reading atp ...
ur talking about trade value for not reruning a unit when he had none to begin with, i swear to 90% of gilg owners would want him obtainable again if he wasn't hot ass
tender flare
as they've begrudgingly done before, clearly
whats an update where they did that
young bone
To Make Gilgamesh Good
- Follow-ups
- [INSERT HERE]
- [INSERT HERE]
timber sonnet
Is Gilgamesh vf bad because he’s Gilgamesh , or is Gilgamesh bad because of his vf?
stiff crystal
dw guys gogeta familiar willl have 1000 follow ups!
no 90% slow
remote orbit
they have to put their ego aside to save the game
They’ve shown when they do that the game goes up in ccu, shocker
sick river
whats an update where they did that
all of the fallout with the AOT update is a prime example
stiff crystal
ur talking about trade value for not reruning a unit when he had none to begin w...
I SAID THIS BRO
craggy fjord
dw guys gogeta familiar willl have 1000 follow ups!
this would put my shiny gogeta back in broken meta
remote orbit
To Make Gilgamesh Good
1. Follow-ups
2. [INSERT HERE]
3. [INSERT HERE]
Rupture
polar dagger
isnt every unit carried by its passives
Not every unit, they carry for example: stark people don’t like him yet people will defend tooth and nail that he’s good (honestly they aren’t entirely wrong he’s pretty nice) but it’s just that would you expect the number 1 espada to be a support who slows? His crit dmg/dps is solid though from what I’ve seen but that’s what I’m basing my point on
trail elk
The fact that this gained 115 stars in just some hours
sick river
guilty gear too, to a lesser degree
topaz gate
devs n testers only care about community input when the CCU drops and any other ...
Well yeah, it's kinda funny how often everyone gets riled up over units. Broly, stark, AoT units, Escanor, it's almost predictable atp and that's where the humor is
latent aurora
🐐
tawny burrow
To Make Gilgamesh Good
1. Follow-ups
2. [INSERT HERE]
3. [INSERT HERE]
remove the damage decrease of the first passive
dense storm
Alright but we need a Subaru Familiar tho
dim lintel
The fact that this gained 115 stars in just some hours
dude didnt even need to elaborate
just needed to say it was shit
tawny mango
ur talking about trade value for not reruning a unit when he had none to begin w...
sets precedent, if gilga can be reran what stops diavolo from being reran
agile adder
Well yeah, it's kinda funny how often everyone gets riled up over units. Broly, ...
When sneak?
lime sun
Why does Gilgamesh has slow
sick river
Well yeah, it's kinda funny how often everyone gets riled up over units. Broly, ...
oh. that's a tester confirming exactly what i said.
upbeat bronze
Alucard familiar
timber sonnet
sets precedent, if gilga can be reran what stops diavolo from being reran
Hes a vanguard
modern cloud
Alright but we need a Subaru Familiar tho
frieren deserve one, she was done so dirty
topaz gate
When sneak?
when there's a sneak ready
tall fiber
who wants to bet when gogeta four gets his familiar it will only be a +50% damage buff?
hollow saffron
gogeta four
remote orbit
To Make Gilgamesh Good
1. Follow-ups
2. Rupture
3. Remove the second half of pa...
And Gilgamesh is actually a good unit yay!
timid drift
Well yeah, it's kinda funny how often everyone gets riled up over units. Broly, ...
ppl didn't realize the enemies had energy drain and range lower for broly
starrk was bugged
aot units are still ass, and destroyed tournaments
who was calling esconar ass besides the shield memes!?
peak solar
frieren deserve one, she was done so dirty
that or a rework
topaz gate
oh. that's a tester confirming exactly what i said.
Confirming what, exactly?
toxic igloo
Alucard familiar
trail elk
just needed to say it was shit
Yeah💔 i could've had jin mori monarch but have this fraud instead
tawny mango
And Gilga is a exclusive
rarity is just a color
topaz gate
That I get a laugh out of watching this?
tender flare
all of the fallout with the AOT update is a prime example
its really not bro they just saw that arx and als were pumping out slop so they started doing it too and it worked
dim lintel
Yeah💔 i could've had jin mori monarch but have this fraud instead
💔 its so over
rapid pecan
Well yeah, it's kinda funny how often everyone gets riled up over units. Broly, ...
yeah ppl are just rotted w als😭 like i remember everyone saying broly was a shit character when they were basically only looking at dps
timber sonnet
rarity is just a color
dim lintel
That I get a laugh out of watching this?
i dont think it was funny bub
stiff crystal
rarity is just a color
yea and gilg shouldve been secret since he has 3 passives
polar dagger
The berserk update was one of the best in a while as they weren’t scared to make units not only interesting but appealing at face value, despite the lack of difficulty in obtaining the units and minor bugs that update its debateably top 3 for how interesting the concepts of all the units are and how the compliment eachother
stiff crystal
like yall said
tawny burrow
That I get a laugh out of watching this?
ur so corny its insane
faint swift
Alucard familiar
dont add this cus im 4 mill gems deep and in still dont got him
stiff crystal
💀
trail elk
💔 its so over
💔 but ig i mainly wanted jin mori monarch for mvp so its fine
young bone
dont add this cus im 4 mill gems deep and in still dont got him
Got mine at 250k
tender flare
all of the fallout with the AOT update is a prime example
all they did was just change their identity because they saw the more profitable option
tame sphinx
Only good for Nuke title goes to Gilgamesh
tall fiber
That I get a laugh out of watching this?
"I'm getting a laugh out of watching this!"
faint swift
Got mine at 250k
bleh bleh bleh
topaz gate
i dont think it was funny bub
i dunno, it's pretty damn funny. The memes people have made out of this have been pretty peak. That AI generated one was legitimately funny as fuck
young bone
Only good for Nuke title goes to Gilgamesh
You mean Cid
modern cloud
rarity is just a color
kinda agree since unit rarity is kinda inconsistent
sick river
Confirming what, exactly?
"the devs and testers think of the community as a joke until their ccu is affected"
"well,., YEAH!"
forest quail
That I get a laugh out of watching this?
back hand embarrassment
tame sphinx
You mean Cid
It's 8.5 already, wake up from 5.5
young bone
It's 8.5 already, wake up from 5.5
Funny thought the devs thought the same
topaz gate
"the devs and testers think of the community as a joke until their ccu is affect...
I'm glad you can twist words like that. 
I just stated a pattern that I noticed and my response.
remote field
That I get a laugh out of watching this?
This funny innit
tame sphinx
We all nuke Cid is only good for that but if we're talking about Gilgamesh, it should be something
craggy fjord
It's 8.5 already, wake up from 5.5
isnt gilgamesh nuke only single target
timber sonnet
I'm glad you can twist words like that. <a:Smile:1248644754682544198> I just sta...
No you didn’t
tame sphinx
isnt gilgamesh nuke only single target
Elish is whole.map, stacks ars single target
stiff crystal
isnt gilgamesh nuke only single target
stacks are
remote field
Elish is whole.map, stacks ars single target
Elisha ain't while map cuh who told u ts
tame sphinx
The worst part is THERE IS NO DAMN COUNTER OF THE STACKS
dense storm
Sukuna VF cutting Midmesh in half:
(last post of this, I'm sleeping because bro is so mid to the points it makes me tired)
trail elk
devs n testers only care about community input when the CCU drops and any other ...
This is exactly what i said💔
misty dragon
isnt gilgamesh nuke only single target
yeah bro its top tier isnt it
fallen lance
Elish is whole.map, stacks ars single target
Elish is in range not map
craggy fjord
Elish is whole.map, stacks ars single target
stacks is kinda the only good part about the familiar
shadow sparrow
I'm glad you can twist words like that. <a:Smile:1248644754682544198> I just sta...
topaz gate
No you didn’t
"Well yeah, it's kinda funny how often everyone gets riled up over units. Broly, stark, AoT units, Escanor, it's almost predictable atp and that's where the humor is"
sounds exactly like my own personal statement to me
tame sphinx
Elisha ain't while map cuh who told u ts
Ooos i forgot to say in his range i llmfao
timber sonnet
The worst part is THERE IS NO DAMN COUNTER OF THE STACKS
Dw that’ll be the next qol update in 2026
craggy fjord
yeah bro its top tier isnt it
😭
timber sonnet
"Well yeah, it's kinda funny how often everyone gets riled up over units. Broly,...
Yo legit I’m not reading that gang
polar dagger
Salter has 20% slow. not 30.
Actually yeah that’s my bad, a better comparison would be katakuri
tender flare
The berserk update was one of the best in a while as they weren’t scared to make...
not alotta content on it so i wouldnt say its the best. only interesting character was rlly guts
forest quail
Yo legit I’m not reading that gang
anything he says is glaze
trail elk
Sukuna VF cutting Midmesh in half:
(last post of this, I'm sleeping because br...
Rip gilgafraud.
craggy fjord
i have gilgamesh but thankfully i didnt rush to get monarch on him
remote field
"Well yeah, it's kinda funny how often everyone gets riled up over units. Broly,...
Aot units are buns unless paired with each other
paper lodge
theres no hope bro they aint buffing it
tame sphinx
Remember gilgamesh did slow his enemies
topaz gate
Yo legit I’m not reading that gang
it's one line, bro
I know av players can't/won't read, but cmon
paper lodge
lets call it a day here
young bone
timber sonnet
it's one line, bro <:Sob4k:1366752039912214558>
I know av players can't/won't ...
No it’s not
tame sphinx
timid drift
"Well yeah, it's kinda funny how often everyone gets riled up over units. Broly,...
these are all unfair comparisons to gilgamesh
paper lodge
timber sonnet
Idk where you got it’s only one line
forest quail
lets call it a day here
you can clock out
remote field
i have gilgamesh but thankfully i didnt rush to get monarch on him
I spent like 500 trying to get monarch on him
tame sphinx
young bone
I spent like 500 trying to get monarch on him
1,352
craggy fjord
I spent like 500 trying to get monarch on him
😬
dim lintel
trail elk
The fact that TENGEN damn tengen is better then gilgamesh💔
craggy fjord
condolemces to you
stiff crystal
Bro joined diavolo
tender flare
these are all unfair comparisons to gilgamesh
theyre honestly very similar
craggy fjord
these are too funny 😭
dense storm
The fact that TENGEN damn tengen is better then gilgamesh💔
THAT'S MY GOAT BRO
remote field
Yooo ain't this the attack that slows people down
dense storm
tall fiber
"Well yeah, it's kinda funny how often everyone gets riled up over units. Broly,...
btw aot units were the worst thing that ever came to this game. ackermans are still better unevo'd then evo'd. its absolutely diabolical.
topaz gate
these are all unfair comparisons to gilgamesh
They were all situations of people going up in flames basically on release to overreact about things
young bone
Seems so
toxic igloo
"Well yeah, it's kinda funny how often everyone gets riled up over units. Broly,...
I mean those were mainly jokes and when they got put on the TL people stopped
Gilgamesh is on the TL and he’s uh
peak solar
was kazi the developer that loved fate cuz we shoulda put them on this 
faint swift
Yooo ain't this the attack that slows people down
and only hits one person
trail elk
THAT'S MY GOAT BRO
Ok sorry but tengen is lowkey just some random mythic 💔 still goated tho
topaz gate
I mean those were mainly jokes and when they got put on the TL people stopped
G...
He's right where he should be tbh
tame sphinx
forest quail
He's right where he should be tbh
nope
peak solar
from lagshooter
timber sonnet
tall fiber
was kazi the developer that loved fate cuz we shoulda put them on this <:sobpray...
unfortunately they had to hold kazi down so that valk can absolutely butcher gilgamesh's familiar
dim lintel
remote field
and only hits one person
topaz gate
And you know as well as I do that a large portion of the people complaining weren't doing it "just for jokes"
modern cloud
was kazi the developer that loved fate cuz we shoulda put them on this <:sobpray...
bro probably couldn’t even give an input for the vf
peak solar
unfortunately they had to hold kazi down so that valk can absolutely butcher gil...
kazi will retaliate with 5 more fate updates + enkidu unit
dense storm
Ok sorry but tengen is lowkey just some random mythic 💔 still goated tho
Indeed, but he is at least better than Fraudmesh 💀
tame sphinx
Only good for the nuke familiar, unlike sukuna, good for nuke and dps
cursive rivet
so uh what makes him bad genuine question
polar dagger
not alotta content on it so i wouldnt say its the best. only interesting charact...
The king having a teleporting cleanse passive and Turing debuffs into buffs, the witch having full aoe nullify like Lucy also giving a 50% dmg buff on stun, the smith giving various buffs which can even provide STATUS/DEBUFF immunity, Griffith for various buff and repulse, and need I even need to explain guts? While I admit I was glazing a bit but the units of that update mend so well paired up and separated
toxic igloo
He's right where he should be tbh
I feel like he should be top of meta or lower upper, all of the other VFs have set that precedent
timid drift
theyre honestly very similar
people didn't know about energy drain and range lower for broly 😭 whenever people actually got the unit they understood he was op
one of starrks most important passives was striaght up bugged
aot units are ass, (none in meta even still and ruined tournaments)
no one was calling esconar bad besides the memes and people being angry abt shields which they understood after a bit
tame sphinx
KEY OF DIDAPPOINTMENT
wicked isle
The fact that TENGEN damn tengen is better then gilgamesh💔
Who is stronger? A demigod with access to every noble phantasm in existence, with the ability to level entire cities with ease and an endless arsenal with various properties for him to fire like a gatling gun
ORRRRR
A fast music man
forest quail
so uh what makes him bad genuine question
why tf does he slow
tame sphinx
KEY OF DISAPPOINTMENT
shadow sparrow
And you know as well as I do that a large portion of the people complaining were...
ashen cradle
I feel like he should be top of meta or lower upper, all of the other VFs have s...
thats rlly js the issue
topaz gate
I feel like he should be top of meta or lower upper, all of the other VFs have s...
All of the other VFs are tied to units you could go and get right now, even as a newer player
tender flare
The king having a teleporting cleanse passive and Turing debuffs into buffs, the...
yeah so like i said the only interesting character is guts
fallen lance
tame sphinx
He cooked this?
timber sonnet
All of the other VFs are tied to units you could go and get right now, even as a...
Then just rerun Gilgamesh
ashen cradle
people expect vfs to be top of meta or sum
dim lintel
He cooked this?
yup!
tender flare
yeah so like i said the only interesting character is guts
hes the only one that had a new mechanic tied to him
timber sonnet
It isn’t that hard brochello
timber sonnet
people expect vfs to be top of meta or sum
Because 90% of them are
tawny burrow
single target btw
topaz gate
Then just rerun Gilgamesh
Was already ruled out
polar dagger
yeah so like i said the only interesting character is guts
💔 you’re good at ragebaiting good sir
timber sonnet
Was already ruled out
Why
forest quail
All of the other VFs are tied to units you could go and get right now, even as a...
newer player propaganda bro
ashen cradle
Because 90% of them are
90% are also not limited
remote field
All of the other VFs are tied to units you could go and get right now, even as a...
Yh fuh me for playing the game when it was in drought
topaz gate
And there's been many explanations why
fallen lance
single target btw
The “destroy everything in that direction” attack btw
ashen cradle
gojo and tengen still arent rlly comparable to sukuna
timber sonnet
90% are also not limited
10% can easily be rerunned but the devs are dumb
timid drift
All of the other VFs are tied to units you could go and get right now, even as a...
valuing limited value over player enjoyability
🥀
dim lintel
people expect vfs to be top of meta or sum
sukuna: upper meta
gojo: upper meta
tengen: upper meta
do we see the pattern
tender flare
💔 you’re good at ragebaiting good sir
i said "interesting" the only new mechanics were guts and his injury stacks. griffith is a knockoff yhwach, witch is just lucy, king is a cleanser
young bone
ashen cradle
sukuna: upper meta
gojo: upper meta
tengen: upper meta
all 3 arent limited units
tall fiber
i need someone to genunely tell me why gilgamesh only has a 180% damage buff when he has nearly the same dps as sukuna without familiar?
ashen cradle
dim lintel
all 3 arent limited units
ok and bruh
quick sphinx
topaz gate
valuing limited value over player enjoyability
🥀
limited value is also tied to player enjoyability, just different player groups.
tender flare
i need someone to genunely tell me why gilgamesh only has a 180% damage buff whe...
his nuke stacks
tawny burrow
sukuna: upper meta
gojo: upper meta
tengen: upper meta
like not even upper meta bro just make him be in some meta
timber sonnet
i need someone to genunely tell me why gilgamesh only has a 180% damage buff whe...
125*
shadow sparrow
all 3 arent limited units
all 3 about to be dmca Btw
ashen cradle
ok and bruh
dense storm
The “destroy everything in that direction” attack btw
The "you may be erased from existence" ahh attack 💀
shadow sparrow
toxic igloo
thats rlly js the issue
yeah, I mean I’m fine with them making the exclusive ones worse than the normal ones, but say that?
Why didn’t the poll have (Exclusive VFs will be worse than normal ones due to concerns of discouraging or providing a unfair disadvantage to newer players)
something like that I feel would’ve made the community backlash a lot less? People were expecting (and even rolled) on him thinking he’d be just the same as the others
dim lintel
like not even upper meta bro just make him be in some meta
exactly bruh
forest quail
Why is Gilgamesh ass?
cuz new players can’t get him 🤓
lime sun
How did they add stacks to him with nothing to count them wit??????
tawny burrow
exactly bruh
hes in NO meta rn
remote field
ENUMA STUN HIM
forest quail
Why is Gilgamesh ass?
cuz new players can’t get him 🤓
that’s some bs
stiff crystal
How did they add stacks to him with nothing to count them wit??????
LMAO
quick sphinx
limited value is also tied to player enjoyability, just different player groups.
rs i dont want a gilg rework even if hes mid
which he isnt btw
fallen lance
The "you may be erased from existence" ahh attack 💀
Ain’t this the same weapon that broke shit just from being pulled out of his storage
tender flare
i need someone to genunely tell me why gilgamesh only has a 180% damage buff whe...
he'd do way too much damage otherwise if they buffed his damage the same amt sukuna did
trail elk
Indeed, but he is at least better than Fraudmesh 💀
So real. I so terribly regret rolling monarch on gilgamesh now💔 atleast it was in less then a 100 rrs
timber sonnet
rs i dont want a gilg rework even if hes mid
He is mid
polar dagger
All of the other VFs are tied to units you could go and get right now, even as a...
So why does it make a difference if you can’t get him anymore? I don’t want him to be sukuna level but come on tengen goes crazy and he’s an easily obtainable mythic
dim lintel
Why is Gilgamesh ass?
cuz new players can’t get him 🤓
new players have sukuna so idek why they did this
young bone
ENUMA STUN HIM
HELP ME EA THIS IS BASE SUKUNA IM FIGHTING AGAINST!
forest quail
rs i dont want a gilg rework even if hes mid
he is mid
timber sonnet
he really isnt
Yes he is
shadow sparrow
which he isnt btw
i dont think hes top 3 of his own update
tall fiber
he'd do way too much damage otherwise if they buffed his damage the same amt suk...
sukuna has burn, bleed, and does two attacks at once btw.
stiff crystal
rs i dont want a gilg rework even if hes mid
This the problem right here
ashen cradle
yeah, I mean I’m fine with them making the exclusive ones worse than the normal ...
idk, the devs are always been agains the idea of even buffing limited units, they js did it cuz thats what the community wanted
timber sonnet
Hes legit the definition of mid
quick sphinx
i dont think hes top 3 of his own update
he was what 😭
forest quail
he really isnt
yes he is once again
woeful basin
rs i dont want a gilg rework even if hes mid
hes not bad hes just slop comparitive to all the other available monarchs
fallen lance
Baiken and invincible better than gigglemesh bro 😭 🙏