Buff/Rework Gilgamesh's familiar and WE NEED VALENTINE (PASSION) VFAMILIAR

[timid drift]

still obtainble

[hollow saffron]

goblin slayer is limited

[timid drift]

Still obtainable

[remote orbit]

Familiar came out this week btw

[red niche]

Only Valk

[hollow saffron]

horrible excuse

is a limited

[forest quail]

he’s a limited unit gang

[tawny burrow]

qhar might be braindead

[forest quail]

we av players can’t READ

[iron dagger]

1970/mushy disciple

[arctic blaze]

Your pfp looks like mushy old pfp

[timid drift]

limited characters like dio were good because they were rare, unlike random banner mythics who fell off after a while, gilgamesh did not take effort to get, don’t know what you expect

[bright sphinx]

gng did u sell ur soul to the av devs cuz this amount of glaze is crazy

[tall fiber]

mushys cousin

[hollow saffron]

lucy was meta for a long time even when she wasn't obt anymore

[stiff crystal]

bro next time we need to vote on the unit who DOESN'T HAVE potential for a vanguad

[arctic blaze]

Connect the dots

[timid drift]

nah im just laughing

[faint swift]

nerf jin mori hes in the upper meta but hes limited so its not fair tbh....................................

[timid drift]

y r we comparing av 2 months ago to now

[remote orbit]

They released a poll for them and if you are gonna do that people are gonna expect them to be relative to the past ones as well

[bright sphinx]

I can tell u get shoved in the locker rooms

[forest quail]

he’s their personal boy toy

[tawny burrow]

true!!!!

[young bone]

Bro was nuking people with 3 galaxies and made his nuke a single target

[forest quail]

getting paid 5 rr

[arctic blaze]

Mushy alt account

[bright sphinx]

rs

[timber sonnet]

Yo this is insane

[hollow saffron]

i said a example and your ass pull another excuse

[cursive mortar]

The difference here is AV is showing they're willing to buff old units back into meta. Why not do that for the limiteds? Even more points that it would add value to those units when trading rolls around, indirectly feeding them more money

[hollow saffron]

you guys can't be real

[timid drift]

bc they’re limited

holy shit

😭

[paper lodge]

are we sure this vf is better than birb

[faint swift]

this exactly why we need a fate update part 3 and 4 and maybe even 5

[hollow saffron]

super ham is better than it

[brazen lily]

Couldve given gilgamesh actual trade value btw

[astral willow]

Unironically birb is better

[faint swift]

potentially even part 6

[tall fiber]

that just reminded me these familiars are supposed to scale with birb

[iron dagger]

perhaps part 6 and 7... too

[timid drift]

they did good by making new nullify characters, if they made gilgamesh op it would literally just be a backwards step on that, do you not see the issue?

[timber sonnet]

[sick river]

nah the devs would rather put in minimal effort with a shitty, boring, "high damage is the only thing that matters" slop VFamiliar than ever give gilgamesh a deserved rerun and vanguard evolution

[hollow saffron]

good nulify units like

the witch is recent

she doesn't count

[sick river]

anything to keep the community at bay guys

[timid drift]

the spring girl

[cursive mortar]

Right, qhar ignored, continuing topic

[timid drift]

is op

[hollow saffron]

LOL

[timid drift]

she has map wife nullify on placement

[hollow saffron]

MERLIN IS ASS

[sick river]

we all know that the ATD community eats up any slop thrown at them as long as they get rerolls

[young bone]

Merlin?

[timid drift]

yeah

[hollow saffron]

one time use

[stiff crystal]

LOL

[tawny burrow]

valk is a braindead little baby whose favorite series is jjk and hates everything else so he makes his favorite units broken and gives the units the community cares about absolute dogshit familiars

[young bone]

MERLIN IS TRASH

[arctic blaze]

Merlin no way

[faint swift]

aba jojo week in anime vanguards but instead of jojo its fate and instead of a week its a year

[timid drift]

all u need

[hollow saffron]

MERLIN IS TRASH

[paper lodge]

they trying so hard to fit gil in meta id say hes barely usable

[timid drift]

just nullify and nuke

not hard

[bold solar]

Gil doesnt deserve vanguard

Calm down

[timid drift]

W

[fluid agate]

are we deadass rn

[bright sphinx]

gng u have to be ragebaiting atp cuz therss no way ur real

[arctic blaze]

Mushy but with less brainpower

[iron dagger]

part 3: Zero
Part 4: Apocrypha
part5: Fate Extra
part 6: Fgo
part 7: Lostbelt 6

[bold solar]

Gil has one of the most boring kits in fate and is overrated

[misty dragon]

its valk on a alt account

[iron dagger]

clearly

[forest quail]

which one is vangaurd saber

[faint swift]

and why aren't you on the dev team?

[remote orbit]

Bro ima be honest this has gotta be their biggest L since aot and gg update

[timid drift]

u guys r dumb for wanting a limited character to come back to too meta lmfao

[hollow saffron]

miso glaze needs to be studied

[iron dagger]

6

[tawny burrow]

ok this is js obvious ragebait

[hollow saffron]

miso is a bum

[cursive mortar]

Apparently, Valk spearheaded all of these, lol

[iron dagger]

the hell did i do

oh wait

right i know now

[paper lodge]

can we have an iq check for gilgamesh vf denfenders

[bold solar]

Alright, how many nasuverse series have u read?

[hollow saffron]

your fate suggestion crashed my fucking phone

[arctic blaze]

7

[sick river]

because limited units are to put it bluntly

[tall fiber]

kaguya, escanor, weather report, goblin knight, jin mori.. want me to keep going?

[sick river]

fucking stupid

[timid drift]

okay let me ask you, if gilgamesh was made obtainable again but actually very good top meta would u mfs be happy?

[bright sphinx]

not meta but useable yes. Top 10 would be nice not where a banner mythic unit who takes less than an hour to evolve is better than him who takes multiple hours to get

[lofty dagger]

The gojo incident...

[sick river]

in 90% of cases

[remote orbit]

Well when you set the bar for vf that high you can’t be mad when people are mad that it didn’t live up or even get close to expectations

[bright sphinx]

yes lol

[tawny burrow]

0🔥

[sick river]

yeah. we would.

[iron dagger]

we don;t talk about that

[stiff crystal]

He does but that doesn't mean he got done dirty af

[hollow saffron]

dumbass, that is literally what everyone want here

[bold canopy]

bro asking the obvious

[tall fiber]

yes

[tawny burrow]

and probably wont read any ever

[bold solar]

Then don't talk back

[stiff crystal]

even you can agree on this FBI

come on

[faint swift]

add mordred

[tawny burrow]

corny ass dude

[timid drift]

then why did u guys keep begging if they said it wouldn’t have a rerun

[misty dragon]

yes

[tawny burrow]

on bro

[hasty pivot]

i think everybody could, it was so buggy that you can get two gilgamesh at the same time atp just drop the ego and make a poll

[misty dragon]

holy cornball

[tawny burrow]

🤤

[bold solar]

Ik i agree his familiar shouldve been better

[tall fiber]

gilgamesh not getting a rerun isnt our fault

[faint swift]

that one dog with the mask gif

[timber sonnet]

Because we expected him to be good

[young bone]

Thats how I got 2

[hollow saffron]

because who fucking thought that they will give a useless vf to a hyped unit

[timber sonnet]

Not complete dogshit

[cursive mortar]

This may surprise some people, but the amount of people who care about trading value and exclusivity in a game that's been dragging its heels on those systems for months is a lot less than people who want everyone to be able to have fun with units that are, consequently, much stronger

[hollow saffron]

tengen was meta and nobody cares about that bum

[timid drift]

they won’t make a limited character top meta

[sick river]

screenshotting this for future use

[stiff crystal]

???

[tawny burrow]

"they" valk cause valk hates fun and loves jjk

[forest quail]

bro they paying you only 5 rr chill

[bright sphinx]

gng they bructhered him stop glazing gng

[timber sonnet]

Don’t let valk see this

[timid drift]

agree

[timber sonnet]

Hell twist it and delete every limited unit

[hollow saffron]

valk when u ask him how people reacted to the aot and gg update

[cursive mortar]

So can we come to the middle ground between us that "it would be much more ideal if Gilgamesh came back and had a stronger VF"

[bold solar]

Trading sucks. Thats why awtd is the best game. Even rares get evos and have their uses

[astral willow]

Deadass

[faint swift]

awtd my beloved

[stiff crystal]

Bro I just wanted gilg to get a rework he needs they even said 3 passives is secret

[hollow saffron]

anniversary upd

[bright sphinx]

brutal mog

[astral willow]

LOOOOOOL

HAHAHAHA

[iron dagger]

eh saying its the best atd game is a stretch

[timber sonnet]

Valk should’ve sticked to awtd videos

And balancing anime royale

[bold solar]

Out of the tds? It is

[astral willow]

I can’t believe I voted for gilgagoat just for him to be worse than his competition

[tawny burrow]

who even let him on the team

[timid drift]

i would absoloutely love this

[pale ginkgo]

nah get him back to anime crossover

[tall fiber]

nag level awtd glaze

[cursive mortar]

Do one better and tag me in whenever lol

[timber sonnet]

No one knows

He just randomly appeared

[young bone]

Single Target Btw

[stiff crystal]

also no offense but why does he stop attacking when he's using his move

[timid drift]

im getting a couple more than 5

[bold solar]

Most people who play it recognize its the best. Abilities r actually creative

[timber sonnet]

Because he’s in a aura cooldown

[dim lintel]

how long have u been saving wtf

[iron dagger]

personally it just has to many problems then pros, unless they fixed alot of those cons (i quit at ani update)

[forest quail]

av devs payed you 5

[robust heath]

Buff/Rework Gilgamesh's familiar and Do a multi-hit for NEEEW Enuma Elish

[bright sphinx]

take a shower gng

[forest quail]

dont lie

[hollow saffron]

good game but damn the updates take so long and the latest upd basically killed the game

[timber sonnet]

You can say that?

[faint swift]

slide 2 rerolls

[tawny burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1025493832357388339/1423130209636450456/attachment.gif

[faint swift]

i guess not

[bold solar]

The other td games are still much worse off, even if you take all of awtd's problems and multiply it by 5

[timber sonnet]

Bro got smited

[timid drift]

last few monarchs have all been below 300 and i've been saving since 6.5/7.0 ig

[dim lintel]

nettspend watch ur language

[astral willow]

LOL

[remote orbit]

Wait so you are getting paid??

[forest quail]

LOL

[bright sphinx]

im sorry

[young bone]

Guts is a better boss killer than gilgamesh with familiar

[young bone]

Same with escanor

[bold solar]

Like i actually like using units in awtd. Just cause theyre not popular doesnt mean the devs will make them terribly low effort

They put effort into everyone

[tall fiber]

yap

[astral willow]

Deadass

[forest quail]

mods watching in the dark lol

[hollow saffron]

goblin slayer, the unit that cost almost nothing to upgrade is better than gilgamesh with vf familiar and monarch

[cursive mortar]

Surprised this whole channel hasn't been hit with a mute or a ban wave yet tbh

[hasty pivot]

if this was gogeta he'd get a bajillion buffs on his vf

[forest quail]

fr

[timid drift]

LOL

[timber sonnet]

Why did they even add goblin slayer as a unit

[astral willow]

Nah they’d find a way to make him wise

[timber sonnet]

I heard the anime was weird asf

[astral willow]

Worse

[forest quail]

no clue

[tawny burrow]

we, yes WE LOVE valk

[forest quail]

that anime is weird

[toxic igloo]

this is what i came up with

[sick river]

i like this about AWTD

[forest quail]

the devs weirder

[hollow saffron]

we have rudeus
nothing is weird

[remote orbit]

I mean you did say you were getting a couple more than 5

[astral willow]

“On report Gogeta loses 60% dps” or some bullshit

[timber sonnet]

Make owo in charge of the vfamilars

[timid drift]

@plucky oracle @topaz gate
Only gilgamesh owners can vote ingame if they want to

1. keep it how it is
2. make gilg obtainable and buff the familar
   🤷‍♂️

[dim lintel]

YES YES YES

PLEASE ADD THIS

[timber sonnet]

They’re to lazy to do that

[tawny burrow]

this is so much better

[young bone]

Valk would have a heart attack if he saw this

[bold canopy]

+40% to miss attack and apply slow, +50% dmg (clone only) type familiar

[hasty pivot]

still doesnt solve the fact that he gets crippled by -30% on both front ends if theres ANY unit on his r ange

[tall fiber]

not that his rupture is useless, but since gilgamesh is unbound arent you gonna be running him with broly?

[dim lintel]

YES MAKE IT OBTAINABLE FOR A DAY AND BUFF IT

[stiff crystal]

They're not doing that

[remote orbit]

Legitimately better than the one we got

[sick river]

every single fucking VFamiliar made by the community is better than the dogshit that valk cooks up im ngl

[stiff crystal]

lol

[timber sonnet]

They’ll say it’ll take to much time

[astral willow]

Unironically a better familiar

[lofty dagger]

The buff from saber and ishtar lowk insane, even more if that can stack up

[hasty pivot]

but its good

[forest quail]

valk take notes

[toxic igloo]

passive 1 bro

[remote orbit]

I vote 2

[timber sonnet]

Because the community spends more than 5 seconds thinking on them

[hasty pivot]

mb gang

im sleepy

[toxic igloo]

saber has like 10k dmg, 125% to that would NOT do anything

it buffs saber and ishtar not him

[lofty dagger]

Alr

[dim lintel]

bro please replace valk with u

[remote orbit]

Preach

[timber sonnet]

Can we have a poll the ban valk

[young bone]

And it doesn't make sense why units around him hurt his damage also Gilgamesh hates ishtar why does she get exempt from hurting his damage

[timber sonnet]

He made 3 mistakes in balancing

[forest quail]

same with vegito bro they made his passives in 3 seconds

[timber sonnet]

That has to be a out

[dim lintel]

WE dont want valk

[maiden sparrow]

Gilga familiar so rushed but still tuff ✌️

[hollow saffron]

tuff in smell like shit

[forest quail]

passives made while asleep 😭

[hasty pivot]

guys you need to protest in #「💬」general

[sick river]

#valkisapsyop

[dim lintel]

tuff whwere??

[stiff crystal]

tuff my ass they didn't fix one of the problems with him

[remote orbit]

The gilga familiar was just rushed nothing tuff about it

[stiff crystal]

😭

[timber sonnet]

He ruined Aot Tourneys GG ex and vfamilars

[timid drift]

lmlaoo

[timber sonnet]

He gotta be kicked off

[young bone]

And get banned? Nah im sitting my ass in here

[dim lintel]

i would have rather gilgamesh do a bunch of follow up attack

that slop would have been better than

slow

[toxic igloo]

apparently this is obito's

[misty dragon]

yeah this is bait

[toxic igloo]

no idea

[sick river]

piggy community eats up everything thrown their way as long as they get RR out of it icl

[misty dragon]

lmao

[tawny burrow]

PLEASE

[forest quail]

or give him wounded

[astral willow]

Nah bro he slows AND stuns now. Hes gone from what used to be a top meta dps to a bad support, dps AND NUKE

[forest quail]

and i’ll be happy

[topaz gate]

gang obito's vf hasn't even been conceptualized yet LOL

[remote orbit]

Yea and it’s actually full aoe and doubles his dps

[timber sonnet]

I believe they would do that

[toxic igloo]

or maybe im wrong

[maiden sparrow]

???

[timber sonnet]

Yea definitely buddy

[stiff crystal]

holy peak

[forest quail]

good he needs a double evo not a vf

[dim lintel]

yes add that!

[timber sonnet]

Nice cover up

[hollow saffron]

shut up nether, you don't even test the vf

[remote orbit]

Aw hell nah wtf

[dim lintel]

WHEN did gilgamesh ever do slow bruh

[misty dragon]

obito just taking rengoku's place 💔

[young bone]

Griffith does everything but nuking better than gilgamesh

[toxic igloo]

nevermind its not

i was wrong

looks real tho

[forest quail]

when he had to slow down to sit on a toilet 😭

[topaz gate]

It's not a coverup, that familiar is straight up just fake

[remote orbit]

Ik but if that was real bro

[astral willow]

Yeah cuz he don’t have a nuke

[stable sky]

or just make broly buff him
since you made tengen buff sukuna

[timber sonnet]

Remove all the testers except g money

[remote orbit]

I got a shiny obito today

[timber sonnet]

Hes cool

[sick river]

purgatory flames

sorry bro this is fake. the dev's would rather jump off a bridge than ever reuse any unique DOT or status effect in general

[timber sonnet]

Nether just ragebaits 24/7

And hasn’t been muted once

[iron dagger]

guys can we make @twilit zinc a tester please

[topaz gate]

Global range cone with a 20% max hp explosion every 30s, that shit would be broken LOL

[timber sonnet]

When I’ve been muted twice

[bright sphinx]

they would use slow tho

[plucky oracle]

this one is still so funny to me
inf range cone is just whole map aoe

[toxic igloo]

i wonder who made it

looks high quality

[timber sonnet]

Ban kamui too

[young bone]

I want my 40% hp executed

[stiff crystal]

i said this but the tiktok people said I was stupid

[hollow saffron]

watch next update move gilgamesh back to useless again

[plucky oracle]

that shit been stolen so many times i can count the pixels😭

[astral willow]

It will

[sick river]

we all know that ONLY dogshit limited units deserve to have unique status effects

[topaz gate]

first mistake was listening to anything people on tiktok say

[copper summit]

[hasty pivot]

Duke Erisia battlepass unit on AV and i would forgive them

[tall fiber]

we're getting 14 units in broken tier and gilgamesh will still be below frieza

[remote orbit]

I hope a dev sees all the complaints and they actually do something about it

[stiff crystal]

I warned them

[toxic igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/yhwach-bleach-anime-tybw-turn-away-gif-27093611

[stiff crystal]

someone made a fake gogeta familiar too

[plucky oracle]

what if we actually make that the obito vf real
would only ruin inf forever

[timber sonnet]

They won’t

[topaz gate]

Oh they have. It's been a good laugh.

[hollow saffron]

they won't

[timber sonnet]

They’ll just ignore it

[young bone]

Do we know what the other 13 are? Not including dioh

[timber sonnet]

Like always

[remote orbit]

Let me guess it’s -30% damage because he’s limited?

[tall fiber]

hollow knight and doom slayer

[wispy cliff]

Pleektsy as lvl 50 and mudskipper brute as event boss

[forest quail]

players got better ideas then the devs 😭

[tawny burrow]

watch gogeta get +400% damage and triple his attacks with a 50 second freeze

[timber sonnet]

Their egos are too big to make good changes

[stiff crystal]

nah they gave him a nuke

[young bone]

Grumble grumble

[stiff crystal]

💀

[viral thicket]

"Gilgamesh is not trash"
Goblin slayer is a way better boss killer than bro

[remote orbit]

I would pick 2 like everything now is better than bro

[remote orbit]

A nuke that heals the enemies?

[sick river]

because laughing at the community and rubbing their bellies bc theyre always right about everything is a great way to sustain ur game

[cursive mortar]

Treating your community like children and dismissing them internally instead of even so much as trying to acknowledge them is... a strategy, I grant you

[topaz gate]

They also have a lot of worse ideas too. That's why suggestions is rarely taken seriously.

[vivid heron]

Obito gon sweep the meta trust

[timber sonnet]

That sure hasn’t failed them 7 times in the past

[hasty pivot]

nah lvl 50 Maestro

[sick river]

anything to sustain their egos

[forest quail]

take the good ones disgard the trash ones

[timid drift]

so making the player base angry is the better option?

[wispy cliff]

Oh ur right his passive will be tempest eye

[paper lodge]

av is back at it again another downfall coming soon

[timber sonnet]

They will rather have the game die

[hasty pivot]

What would be a good passive for it though

[remote orbit]

I foresaw this bruh

[forest quail]

legit makes 0 sense

[hollow saffron]

testers when they have to test the game

[tall fiber]

have the polls to do good for the community
the content WE voted for is ass
we ask for what we wanted
we get made fun of by devs

[forest quail]

like they know their community is better at their job

[forest quail]

take inspo nro

[sick river]

makes sense

[timber sonnet]

Idk about that

[sick river]

the dev's are always right

[warm sky]

what about my parkour suggestion😊

[vivid heron]

30% slow🥹

[tawny burrow]

[forest quail]

some of these ppl in stage suggestions gang just take a look

they cook so good

[topaz gate]

Literally no matter how this situation turned out, a chunk of the playerbase would've been angry. The ONLY way to have come out of this better was to not even had the poll and done the familiar to begin with.

But people so desperately want buffs for limited units, here's the showcase that it's a terrible idea.

[hollow saffron]

2 second stun in it meta

[hasty pivot]

priestess better

[paper lodge]

literally nobody is gonna be mad if gilgamesh was upper meta

[sick river]

quite literally all of miso's shit is better than 70% of actual AV updates im not even gonna lie

[wispy cliff]

After losing 3 stocks nuke everyone on map one time use?

[dim lintel]

so we are buffing gilgamesh right 😄

[forest quail]

on bro

[sick river]

and its all fate shit

[timid drift]

okay? then let gilgamesh owners decide if hes gonna stay limited or not, its better than whatever the fuck is going on right now

[cold ledge]

nope best solution was to offer a rerun but yall are bots with zero brains so its cool

[dim lintel]

Maybe bro maybe

[stiff crystal]

LOL WHO MADE T HIS

[dim lintel]

but owo is better

[hasty pivot]

its Ai slop sadly

[dim lintel]

me!

[hollow saffron]

wasn't miso the one behind element reactions

[remote orbit]

I don’t even understand why have polls with so many units everyone wants buffed it’s like picking between your mom and daughter and wife drowning and you need to save one

[iron dagger]

🤫

[young bone]

Grail kun grail kun for the love of God make the Gilgamesh familiar better

[sick river]

idfk im referring to their fate suggestions mainly

[timber sonnet]

Just save both fr fr

[forest quail]

o think so

[paper lodge]

LOL

[timber sonnet]

Ain’t that hard

[forest quail]

idk why they removed element reactions tho

[remote orbit]

Both bruh what

[paper lodge]

av is back at it again

[hollow saffron]

because it was dogshit

[remote orbit]

It’s 3 people 😭

[timber sonnet]

Because they were but

[dim lintel]

valk make a poll pls bro

[sick river]

elemental reactions are cool in theory

[hasty pivot]

sounds lame ngl, maybe he gets empowered follow up attacks after using a normal gale attack like any of his moveset in deepwoken

[tall fiber]

have the polls to do good for the community
the content WE voted for is ass
we ask for what we wanted
we get made fun of by devs

[forest quail]

they wher only in portals

[stiff crystal]

It was ass

[cursive mortar]

I've been paying a lot of attention in this thread, and I think I've finally figured out why people are so mad.

... It's because his slow isn't high enough %, right? Just fix that and we're golden /s

[stiff crystal]

no rework his ass

[dim lintel]

bruh

[stiff crystal]

that's the problem

[astral willow]

Genius

[timid drift]

@topaz gate if u guys care so much about trade value, why don't you let the people who already own him decide? whats so wrong with letting current gilgamesh owenrs decide

[forest quail]

NO just change it to WOUNDED and i’ll be happy

[sick river]

ive been noticing a trend of the devs having good idea on paper and then trashing all over that cool idea in actual implementation

[astral willow]

Real make it 50%

[sick river]

VFamiliars themselves are a perfect example

[toxic igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/artisan-liga-gif-13227306609816579728

[forest quail]

WHY TF does he slow bro?

[hollow saffron]

and it was annoying to deal with

[paper lodge]

bro genuinely as a shiny gilgamesh owner give him a rerun bro

[stiff crystal]

because

[wispy cliff]

Wait I know since he’s proficient with weapons he has 3 different attack styles that he cycles, one stuns, one slows, and one deals damage

[toxic igloo]

chains

[cursive mortar]

I think 50% would just fix AV as a game. (And for those who missed it the first time, /s)

[bold canopy]

stark syndrome

[tall fiber]

WHY DOES HE SLOW????????

[timber sonnet]

Because his stench aura slows the enemy’s down

[sick river]

nah bro we gotta gatekeep for his non-existent trading value

[tall fiber]

WHY WOULD YOU USE GILGAMESH AS A SLOW INSTEAD OF WEATHER REPORT OR STARRK?

[forest quail]

😭

[iron dagger]

should have just been a stun instead of a slow

[hasty pivot]

yeah that could work

[stiff crystal]

yes, make his ASS secret LIKE HE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN

[iron dagger]

💔

[toxic igloo]

he does use chains against his opponents

[forest quail]

Give gilg Wounded

[topaz gate]

Who do you think voted for the unit in the poll that said the unit would not be getting a rerun?

[timid drift]

The playerbase is angry and the devs are laughing at them didn't this happen during 7.0 🤣

[forest quail]

that’s a whole stun bro

[timber sonnet]

Then make him stun

[forest quail]

give him stun

[faint swift]

2s stun btw

[cursive mortar]

THAT'S THE POINT! IF HIS SLOW WAS BETTER, YOU WOULD USE HIM OVER THE OTHER CHARACTER WHO IS RENOWNED FOR SLOWING PEOPLE IN HIS UNIVERSE: COYOTE STARRK!

[hollow saffron]

but he stun

[iron dagger]

that usually stops them not slow them

[hollow saffron]

HE ALREADY STUN

[toxic igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/frederica-bernkastel-umineko-umineko-when-they-cry-fumo-bernkastel-gif-594188211286339079

[bold canopy]

30% at that and less dps than weather if you exclude nuke

[forest quail]

only bosses

[stiff crystal]

he stuns bosses

[timid drift]

EVERYONE, not pepople who own gilgamesh, im saying make a vote ingame that only gilgamesh owners can decide to make him obtainable with a better familar or stay how he is

[sick river]

sorry guys. we have to make cool units like gilgamesh and toji arbitrarily limited to boost our trading value. we dont have trading btw 😂

[remote orbit]

No it’s the fact his nuke is single target so he leaks, the fact his damage didn’t change much compared to other vf units and the fact he was super rushed

[timber sonnet]

Why only bosses

[cursive mortar]

Dude, mind the /s at the end, lol, the whole message was sarcasm

[stiff crystal]

ask berk

[dim lintel]

You see the vision

[woeful snow]

lmao

[misty dragon]

single target nuke 🔥

[remote orbit]

My bad I didn’t notice it ngl

[cursive mortar]

Trust, this is the play (AGAIN, it's sarcasm)

[robust heath]

bro developed schizophrenia

[tall fiber]

thats not fair to say at all but preach 🙏

[dim lintel]

oh i thought that meant serious

[cursive mortar]

I think if we give him The Immortal, he'd be a decent unit

[forest quail]

nothing

[cursive mortar]

They clearly don't care at all about how the character operates in their lore anymore, so why not at this point

[timber sonnet]

You dragging ts bro

[signal hatch]

Let's all agree valk might be the worst passive designer that guy secretly hates my goat😢

[stiff crystal]

gilg done took zodd from griffith

crazy

[dim lintel]

i am

and i will forever

[forest quail]

he asked chat gpt to give him a vf but make him on par with gear boy

[tawny burrow]

"secretly" no hes pretty open about it just look at the vfamiliar

[dim lintel]

its true

[toxic igloo]

i would really post a image of the gothic maid shit but idk if i can 🥀

[timber sonnet]

What?

[signal hatch]

I know damn well he was praying gogeta should win

[signal hatch]

Valk acts like EA can't use full aoe😢

[hollow saffron]

EA is single target

[sick river]

i dont think a singular VFamiliar has come with a unique passive

[misty dragon]

SINGLE TARGET NUKE 🔥

[sick river]

please correct me if im wrong

[stiff crystal]

bruh imagine how shitty okarun Vfamiliar would've been

[hollow saffron]

for no reason

[stiff crystal]

💀

[hasty pivot]

please no

[timber sonnet]

Gojo kinda

[tawny burrow]

valk just doesnt want to give good buffs to anything other than dragon ball or jjk

[astral willow]

Made bro walk instead of run

[sick river]

VFamiliar passives in conception are actually scribbled down on a fucking post-it note

[cursive mortar]

Gojo did with Split Second Decision

[sick river]

theyre so

boring

[timber sonnet]

Trust

[robust heath]

2.59x 🥀

[hollow saffron]

sukuna gain the new niche of being a buffee

[timber sonnet]

It’s 10/10 game design

[cursive mortar]

It's crazy how much less creative things have gotten from the first VF to the fourth

[sick river]

big number damage is the only thing that matters guys

[stiff crystal]

I don't think they want them to

[faint swift]

slapping 3 passives on a unit..... is boring........?

[timber sonnet]

Next update every unit will be doing 1million dmg

[timid drift]

its kinda funny how they made every gilgamesh owner unhappy, and peopel who don't own him happy.
sorta the opposite of what vfamiliars are lamo

[toxic igloo]

gothic

got cut off

[timber sonnet]

Because the devs cant have they’re fav unit be bad

[sick river]

salter

[sick river]

theyve never been outstanding

[toxic igloo]

actually

idk if thats allowed

[sick river]

im a d1 vfamiliar hater

[toxic igloo]

🥀

[young bone]

Btw him barely using ea nearly destroyed the surrounding area

[sick river]

theyre so

so dogshit

VFamiliars breed both developer and community complacency

[stiff crystal]

So like

[faint swift]

single target btw

[stiff crystal]

is gilg getting sent down on the tier list next update

[hollow saffron]

nobody is happy

[cursive mortar]

Gojo's SSD was interesting, and set a decent precedent. I'd have taken "one fairly interesting new addition, and stat buffs", but we haven't even had that

[stiff crystal]

or he's staying up ther

there

[cursive mortar]

Gogeta voters are kicking their feet right now idk what to tell you

[hasty pivot]

gilgamesh tier

[signal hatch]

Same Ea btw

[robust heath]

after EA is single-hit

[tall fiber]

WE DEMAND:
-RERUN GILGAMESH
-MAKE HIM A SECRET
-GIVE HIM A VANGUARD EVOLUTION
-MAKE HIM THE BEST UNIT IN THE GAME

WHO'S WITH ME?

[stiff crystal]

Too much work

[cursive mortar]

DON'T FORGET HIS SLOW!!!!!!!!!1 (SARCASM)

[faint swift]

gogeta familar gonna drop just for him to not be worth running over any other units

[robust heath]

forgor abt slow

[stiff crystal]

and we need MORE TRADING UNITS

[modest prism]

Just buff thr godamn familiar 🙏🏻

[cursive mortar]

SO MAKE HIM LIMITED AGAIN AFTER WE DO ALL THAT!!!!

[dim lintel]

what about the 10 follow up attacks

[sick river]

i spoke about this in another thread trashing on VFamiliars but with how shittily concepted VFamiliars are, and if the general community keeps accepting them for being so low quality when AV's built up a reputation of being unique compared to other ATDs and prides itself on that unique identity, the devs are gonna start putting less and less effort into content going forward, potentially extending outside of the realm of VFamiliars

[cursive mortar]

only if they're guaranteed to crit on slowed targets (he slows btw)

[dim lintel]

does he slow i forgot..

[toxic igloo]

slow to 35%

[cursive mortar]

Yeah dude he slows by 30%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Y'all, this is getting too painful to be funny I'm ngl.

[sick river]

im glad people seem to be actually stepping up now that the gilg VFamiliar's out

[pseudo cypress]

This familiar is ass ngl

[robust heath]

WE NEED MORE THAN 106 LIMITED UNITS (with evo)

[faint swift]

ADD MORE LIMITED CONTENT

[forest quail]

guys we made him gear boy BUT HE SLOWS happy?

[young bone]

What about the time he absolutely tore apart riders reality marble just by letting ea air itself out

[faint swift]

ADD MORE LIMITED UNITS THAT WONT HAVE ANY VALUE WHEN TRADING RELEASES

[dim lintel]

can someone send me ss of gilgamesh passive

[modest prism]

Is ts even at gojo level 🙏🏻

[pseudo cypress]

Nah

This is worse then gojo ngl

[signal hatch]

Grass is green

[young bone]

King of the World
Immune to status effects. DMG +30% & SPA -10%; DMG -6% for each unit within range (down to -30%). Units with the name 'Saber' or 'Ishtar' do not apply to this.

Myriad Treasures
On Attack: Range & damage +1% (up to +35%); Attacks ignore 50% of enemy DMG Reduction.

Enuma Elish (Unlocks at Upgrade 10)
Gains the Unbound element and the ability Enuma Elish. On Hit: Non-boss enemies below 10% HP will be instantly killed

[signal hatch]

Literally if u want his slow you would want it either line or cone

[sick river]

i genuinely believe that how VFamiliars have been developed so far is potentially a stepping stone into AV losing its identity

[stiff crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/fate-gif-15599855813422140753

[cursive mortar]

Okay but he slows now, Bray

[sick river]

youre right

[forest quail]

they where made to keep ccu

[sick river]

vfamiliar's are perfect

[tawny burrow]

single target btw

[modest prism]

He deserved to be atleast at tengen level

[stiff crystal]

How does aba out of all games manage to do gilg decent

[sick river]

hot take but ccu isnt the only thing that matters

[faint swift]

if youre ever in a bad mood just think about the slow

[forest quail]

it does

that’s how the devs get paid bro

[sick river]

fucking steal a brainrot is the most popular game on roblox with the highest ccu

[young bone]

He didnt even hit anybody with it just the fact that it existed destroyed the marble

[forest quail]

they keep a constant supply of players to buy gamepasses

[iron dagger]

it matters, but it isint the only thing that does matter

[signal hatch]

Would've so fit being half aoe instead of being a fuck ass circle

[cursive mortar]

CCU is a lot less important with the premium payout removal

but still very relevant

[forest quail]

weren’t they only made cuz they had dmca so they couldn’t make double evos

[sick river]

i genuinely care about the quality of AV over its CCU

[young bone]

And why does he launch at the enemies with ea? His last attack makes no sense

[forest quail]

cuz they couldn’t do heien sukuna cuz dmca

[dim lintel]

soo when is vsjw familiar

[wispy cliff]

What’s ccu

[iron dagger]

i don't think so

[sick river]

am i crazy for this??

[stiff crystal]

They meant you also have to care about the player's enjoyment

[iron dagger]

just a low effort way to buff units

[forest quail]

but now they going original they can scrap vf

[faint swift]

nah

[sick river]

concurrent player count or some shit like that

[iron dagger]

besides just flat number boosts

[forest quail]

nah i’m pretty sure that’s why

[sick river]

how many people are playing the game

[ruby carbon]

King's revival

[wispy cliff]

Ty

[dim lintel]

but pyseph doesnt 😢

[cursive mortar]

And bring back sukuna double evo, but at this point it's obvious that was an excuse to not put in too much effort

[modest prism]

Yeah man money >> enjoyment 🤤

[sick river]

clearly fucking not

[iron dagger]

they won't because its easy slop that can be mass produced that people will eat up

[tall fiber]

tbh, vanguard familiars arent actually doing much for the ccu

[cursive mortar]

VF are so much less effort than a double evo, they'll prefer them infinitely

[modest prism]

This shit look better

[iron dagger]

yum yum yum i love slop 🐷

[onyx inlet]

Fax

[iron dagger]

als type shit

[dim lintel]

stop cursing

[pseudo cypress]

Lowkey would be pretty good for damage tournaments

[forest quail]

welcome to discord

lol

[tall fiber]

at least in ALS theyre actual reworks

[cursive mortar]

Don't give them any reason to ban you lol

[dim lintel]

😅

[signal hatch]

Yeh he isn't the typa person to walk forward he would just aim😭

Literally that's it

[cursive mortar]

But he's the type of person to slow

[tawny burrow]

devs care about money so tough luck ig

[signal hatch]

[forest quail]

bro i’m dying lol

[tall fiber]

ALS reruns units and gives them godlys all the time and no one gave a shit, but apparently its a problem when its AV

[cursive mortar]

Not to Gilgamesh familiar, he doesn't have the dps

[young bone]

The only time he even hit someone with just ea and not the energy was when ruder ran up to him

[faint swift]

lowkey the majority of the atd community only play and enjoy games when it has the most players. They just jump ship to the biggest game out currently, glaze it, and put down any other game whether it deserves it or not.

[toxic igloo]

sukuna & gojo got familiars since they couldnt do new vfx or abilities for them (due to dmca)

that problem isnt really here though for things like gilgamesh though

[timid drift]

cause av cares about a feature that doesn't even exist

[sick river]

60% of the community actually js needs to go back to the farm

roll around in the mud

[forest quail]

he’s the type of person to pin point his nuke to a single enemy

[sick river]

eat up their slop

[peak solar]

guys can we just add enkidu instead hahah

[cursive mortar]

Also, that's irrelevant now cause they got hit by DMCA anyway

[toxic igloo]

idk they're not gonna change it so 🥀

[faint swift]

true!

[tall fiber]

enkidu and gilgamesh vanguard!!!!!!!!!

[signal hatch]

And Arthuria while clashing each other in fate route

[sick river]

@iron dagger where's the enkidu + gil vanguard.

[forest quail]

yea but now that they can give them double evo there’s no need for anymore vf

[peak solar]

[forest quail]

but they gon keep adding them to keep the bills paid

[dim lintel]

can we hire owo to replace valk

[timid drift]

A LOT of things that were originally said "No" to we've gotten changed, we just need to make suggestions and ask like before

[cursive mortar]

from an outsider whose only interaction with Fate has been anime tds and Melty Blood, Gates of Babylon is his coolest attack to me. I would have literally preferred they did something like Sakuya or Reimu where he just fired off Gate of Babylon infinitely on a .5s spa or something

[iron dagger]

almost finished too

[sick river]

im drooling everywhere

[iron dagger]

just uh

[signal hatch]

Wow

[dim lintel]

Soo mid

[iron dagger]

college making me go bald

[toxic igloo]

that doesnt look like 30% slow miso

[cursive mortar]

The devs have so much spite for the playerbase it's insane

[forest quail]

lol

[faint swift]

🥹

[sick river]

deadass true

[iron dagger]

its a 40% slow

[sick river]

i lowk

kind of understand it

[young bone]

Give him a second active ability and just be this

[stiff crystal]

im ngl

[sick river]

roblox communities tend to be fucking insufferable

[odd herald]

they should atleast buff the dmg to 175% and buff his slow and increase stun duration by al ittle

[faint swift]

why is there non fate units in my fate tower defense

[dim lintel]

what about 67 aha

[sick river]

but that doesnt mean everyone in the community is a shitter

[stiff crystal]

We should've made suggestions when we found out gilg was exlusive

[young bone]

250%

No less

[iron dagger]

shut up noob

[odd herald]

then he will be on par with the other vanguard familiars

[hollow saffron]

replace the slow and stun wirh anything else instead

[cursive mortar]

If he could swap between EA and Gate of babylon spam that'd be cool, EA to clear bosses, GoB for regular stuff

[dim lintel]

😢

[forest quail]

yea but it gets to a point when the passives were made while they were asleep 😭

[cursive mortar]

(of course, both should have slows)

[dim lintel]

Can they copy the gilgamesh from aba

[young bone]

Like tojis weapon swap

[stiff crystal]

bro's gonna combo extend

😭

[cursive mortar]

Yes, but there's slow, so it's cooler

[modern cloud]

knowing the dev it will be follow up tbh

[cursive mortar]

and crit

[iron dagger]

2 second stun per m1 (followup)

clearly

[odd herald]

they wont do anything above 200% they wanted to make him a support - boss killer type

[sick river]

i always thought that a gilgamesh vanguard with access to a lot of his arsenal would be really cool

[hollow saffron]

anything is better than slow and stun

[young bone]

Slow because the enemies are just getting constantly sniper by weapons

[tawny burrow]

knowing the devs they wont do shit

[modern cloud]

and buff holy by 30%

[dim lintel]

after using attack 1, follow up with attack 3, then follow up with attack 2

if gets hit by a boss, gilgamesh counters

[modern cloud]

most likely outcome

[forest quail]

support? weather
boss killer, goblin slayer

[cursive mortar]

Another thing that would have made Gil familiar much better is if Broly's Wrathful Domain worked on ALL unbound units, not just base unbound. Gil gets unbound later but doesn't benefit from the free 100% crit +80% crit dam because he's not base unbound

[young bone]

Support my ass the only time hes ever supported someone was in Fgo Babylonia

[faint swift]

copy and paste awtd gilgamesh into av

[forest quail]

gilgamesh? usless

[sick river]

passives have been really inconsistent in quality since like

[stiff crystal]

@bold solar Do you agree with this

[sick river]

the buu saga update

[hollow saffron]

gilgamesh try to be multiple things at the same time but he is dogshit in all of them

[tawny burrow]

blame it on old devs and dont fix any of their mistakes🔥

[odd herald]

you can see they wanted to make him a mini support and a boss killer by the passives

[cursive mortar]

What? You don't remember that time he saw Ishtar then proceeded to slow her by 30% for the remainder of the show?

[forest quail]

BRO VEGITO was made in -3 seconds

[modern cloud]

yea

[forest quail]

like it mad me sad

[stiff crystal]

If gilg isn't getting a rerun then just make a new unit for him

ig

[bold solar]

awtd gil is pretty good in that game but hes still super boring

[timber sonnet]

He was just put into chat gpt

[bold solar]

you just set him to crit and he cleans up

[sick river]

the last update i remember where every single unit has genuinely high quality passives was the bleach update

[young bone]

I remember him calling her a useless goddess then giving her a sign saying she's a useless goddess and making her sit in a corner

[timber sonnet]

They do that with all their passives

[modern cloud]

like what als did with cid tbh

[cursive mortar]

Yeah, seriously, there are So. Many. Ways. To fix this

[tawny burrow]

thats just how valk "designs"

[stiff crystal]

is he more unique than av's

[forest quail]

nah even chat could cook up better than this slop

[cursive mortar]

Ah you didn't pay attention then. When she was walking over to the corner, she was slowed by 30%

[faint swift]

outside of bugs, i lowkey enjoyed the gg update more than the buu saga update. buu saga update had like 1 day of content

[young bone]

Lmao

[forest quail]

the time she stoped to come to the ground he inflicted 30% slow

[timber sonnet]

Every update they do has 1 day of content

[cursive mortar]

he stunned for 2s so she'd drop to the ground, then it was slow mania

[stiff crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/fate-gif-16118493867279554956

300% slow

[cursive mortar]

Cooking

[sick river]

guilty gear update is way overhated icl

[cursive mortar]

Wait isn't that just reversal

[forest quail]

many will disagree but we need hard content bro

[sick river]

genuinely high quality and good units

[odd herald]

thats like almost every td its just 1-2 days of content

[sick river]

the bad part was PVP and the baiken quest

thats it

[young bone]

Gilgamesh should've had another passive called useless goddess that makes any ishatr in range have a 999 cooldown and do 0 damage

[hollow saffron]

the next live stage will be heated i can feel it

[modern cloud]

make the slow infinitely stack

[odd herald]

#bringbackhardav

[timid drift]

@brazen ivy why can't they do a poll to buff+rerun gilg?

[cursive mortar]

But in return it BUFFS HIS SLOW! you're cooking

[timber sonnet]

Av makes sure it’s only 1 day

[bold solar]

i mean he changes passives and deals total dmg nuke and a base defense

[forest quail]

upd 9.0 incident

[stiff crystal]

because of the old devs

[tawny burrow]

uhh smth smth place broly and win

[timber sonnet]

Because they’re lazy

[odd herald]

yeah they make it too easy

[faint swift]

hated cause people cant read passives and dont know anything outside of mainstream animes

[stiff crystal]

but atp bro

[modern cloud]

easy = more ccu sadly

[stiff crystal]

fuck the old devs

[forest quail]

legit av so boring bro 😭

[sick river]

people just shat on it because obviously the only media AV should are shonen slop anime with primarily fight scenes and no character development like JJK

[timid drift]

?

[stiff crystal]

Gilg was made limited for trading

[forest quail]

make boss rushes feel like u fighting a boss

[odd herald]

yea

[stiff crystal]

which is fucking stupid

[faint swift]

awtd gilgamesh by beloved

[brazen ivy]

idk

[forest quail]

i can place 1 unit and win

[timber sonnet]

Every little mistake in the game

[hollow saffron]

valk is andrevious alt

[timid drift]

fuck you mean idk 😭
make a ingame poll for ONLY gilgamesh owners

[timber sonnet]

Is the old devs fault

100%

[tawny burrow]

BUT dont fix any of the said mistakes

[stiff crystal]

Ishtar was made limited for god know why

[forest quail]

aslong as u getting paid man

[brazen ivy]

Im just a tester

[hollow saffron]

av devs when you tell them they can fix the old devs mistakes:

[young bone]

She's the only unit like that btw

[timber sonnet]

They’re too busy playing Elden ring or some shit

[odd herald]

sacrifice forf the limited gilgamesh vanguard quest in update 31.5

[timid drift]

you have a louder voice than us man, go talk to somoene higher up 😭

[forest quail]

they will smite him

u know that

[brazen ivy]

ive been calling this thing ass bro

[timid drift]

idk anyone who's happy about this

[sick river]

VFamiliars are breeding a lot of developer complacency icl

[hollow saffron]

kamui is betrayed and chained in the av afk chamber for 1000 years

[sick river]

oh so the devs dont even listen to their main testers 🥀

[cursive mortar]

Gogeta voters

[timid drift]

what does valk/balancers have to say about it

[sick river]

wonderful to know that they're in an echo chamber

[timber sonnet]

They only listen to themselves

[faint swift]

i find it funny when some people say that persona shouldve been the anime game to be added. If the majority of the persona community dont even play the games then i doubt the majority of av players know anything about the series outside of the ost 😭

[timber sonnet]

They have their own echo chamber

[stiff crystal]

It's not like they can't since they said this

[timid drift]

i don't even have gilgamesh and im mad

[timber sonnet]

Calling them good devs

[cursive mortar]

Just make them all slow

[brazen ivy]

Valk thinks the execute is op which is why he cant be op

[stiff crystal]

bruh

💀

[brazen ivy]

and that hes exclusive

[timber sonnet]

[brazen ivy]

and unob

[forest quail]

tell valk to fire him self

[cursive mortar]

The execute under 10%....?

[forest quail]

hire miso

[timber sonnet]

Tell valk to take a break

And think about his life decisions

[tawny burrow]

no the fuck it is NOT
its good but not op by any means bro

[brazen ivy]

i agree the execute is bad but the unob thing i can understand

[timber sonnet]

Then rerun the unit

[stiff crystal]

Did they change their opinion about this

[tawny burrow]

like at 10% it kills sure

[stiff crystal]

or some shit

[tawny burrow]

but valk is smoking smt

smt strong

[timber sonnet]

And give compensation to the people who had it limited

[forest quail]

they legit just made him gear boy level

[timber sonnet]

Legit Als does this

[warm sky]

Yeah he’s not wrong execute is stupid it being buffed would of him crazy

[timber sonnet]

How is it that hard bro

[sick river]

we all love building a non-existent economy for trading since the game's release only to not drop trading a whole year into the game's lifespan

[forest quail]

unless you have him monarch

[brazen ivy]

idk

[faint swift]

all out attack ability: -50% damage for 30 seconds BUT 35% slow that APPLIES TO BOSSES and lasts 3 seconds

[timid drift]

what diff does more damage make on a already 10% execute?
and for exclusive, let the people who already have gilgamesh decide, people really don't care about trade value as much as you guys think.. esp with gilg having a dogshit model

[cursive mortar]

I genuinely think I could do a better job at this point. Where can I apply?

Guys vote me for lead balancer.
What I'll do:

• Give ALL units varying degrees of slow
• Give ALL units follow up
• Give ALL units some sort of crit dependency
• Give ALL units garbage vanguard familiars (I don't like them)
• Add master chief (he'll be the best unit in the game forever)

[sick river]

oh my god

I HATE LIMITED UNITS

I HATE VFAMILIARS

AV IS TURNING INTO SLOP 😭

[warm sky]

How would they decide

[tawny burrow]

YES and dont forget single target nukes

[warm sky]

People just gonna lie and say they have him

[cold ledge]

look bro just rerun him or make a poll to rerun him guaranteed well all vote him to

[timid drift]

let people ingame who already have gilgamesh vote if he returns

[modern cloud]

i’d vote for you

[warm sky]

To much work for the devs bfr

[timid drift]

im sure the genius pyseph could cook that up

[cursive mortar]

Dude you already know I got you (they'll disable their attacks for the duration of the "nuke" and also not be that good)

[brazen ivy]

you guys severely overestimate how much say i have

[timid drift]

next stage is gonna be fun

[cursive mortar]

Just get me into the lead balancer role dude. You know I can cook

[forest quail]

yea we know they will smite you

[remote orbit]

Then buff Gilgamesh fr

[timber sonnet]

What’s the point of the lead tester role

[dim trench]

Stop lying

[forest quail]

dw bro

[stiff crystal]

where's the 900% buff

[modern cloud]

would somehow cause a 1000 bug

[stiff crystal]

horrible job

[tall fiber]

the gilgamesh familiar is gonna cause a chain reaction that will make them actually a good addition to the game trust

[timber sonnet]

They’ll just ignore the community and make jokes

[cursive mortar]

They'll buff their elements by 20%

[timber sonnet]

Like they always do

[warm sky]

What would they buff about him

[modest prism]

Dont say slurs like that man

[tawny burrow]

bros gonna get smited if he tries to speak up

[deep cargo]

Nah people aren’t gonna care about this situation in a month

[remote orbit]

I’m probably gonna listen in just so I can hear the 100s of people dogging them for how bad the stuff is

[stiff crystal]

my bad

[timid drift]

ur the only chill tester bro, all the others laughed at the community being angry for a valid reason

[robust heath]

yall td places is slop

[stiff crystal]

ppl gonna be requesting a rerun or a buff

for gilg

watch

[tawny burrow]

mindless glazers

[forest quail]

atp rerun him

[brazen ivy]

Nah

[forest quail]

no need for him to be limited

[brazen ivy]

not that

[brazen ivy]

[forest quail]

they gon cut your pay check

[modern cloud]

tbh the only hope now is if they make a alt version of gilg or sum

[forest quail]

from 20 to 15 and bour

[brazen ivy]

nope

[stiff crystal]

Hopefully this

or a rerun

[timid drift]

can u atleast bring up the idea of letting people who already own gilgamesh if he's to be made obtainable or not

[lofty dagger]

2rrs

[misty dragon]

they keeping bro in a cage 💔

[forest quail]

lol

they telling him what to say rn

[sick river]

when other testers r saying shit like this, its no wonder the people would rather speak to you than them 😭

[remote orbit]

Fix/chnge/remove/negate his 1st passive I think it is, the one where he loses damage, increase damage increase to like 190% to 225%, make his nuke not single target but loses damage on it by like 5-10m so it’s somewhat balanced

[shut pawn]

no changed will be made to the familar

[sick river]

that first screenshot is still fucking insane btw

[shut pawn]

closing this

[tawny burrow]

this guy is such a cornball

[stiff crystal]

💀

[robust heath]

i like you
u are chill guy

[dull mesa]

exactly bro

[timid drift]

this guy bro

[dull mesa]

such an easy concept to grasp

[toxic igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/yhwach-bleach-anime-tybw-turn-away-gif-27093611

[lofty dagger]

Uh

[modest prism]

are we back chat🥺

[timber sonnet]

We’re back

[faint swift]

dont worry guys i brought it back

no need to thank me

[sick river]

what are we doing

[timid drift]

L mans

[foggy stump]

if gilg's fam aint that good cuz hes limited, then all limited vanguard should stick to the original concept of not being meta

[toxic igloo]

YHWACH RETURNED IT

[timber sonnet]

Thanks brochello

[stiff crystal]

what bro

[misty dragon]

holy goat

[stiff crystal]

who opened this again

[misty dragon]

wrong reply

[tawny burrow]

av devs when they have to listen to their community

[timber sonnet]

Bros vote to close it got vetoed

[foggy stump]

if we follow the logic

[timber sonnet]

holy aura loss

I would quit being a tester atp

[lofty dagger]

The almighty, the power of maintaining the agenda...

[modern cloud]

a rerun is prob not the best idea since how hard the powercreep has been. A new gilg prob the best scenario

[toxic igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-rey-quincy-yuwhbach-gif-2306769544478680848

[rapid pecan]

His low-key saying facts tho😭 theirs no need to be buffing limited units

[stiff crystal]

Anything is good

[timber sonnet]

Then rerun it

[stiff crystal]

Everyone agreed that gilg got done dirty

[rapid pecan]

Yeah I agree w this

[timid drift]

delete the familiar
make him obtainable
give him a vanguard evo

[sick river]

AV devs & most testers when they have to step outside of their echo chamber:

[timid drift]

ez

[faint swift]

TLDR FOR THE ENTIRE SUGGESTION: buff gilgamesh familiar or rerun him and buff him or drop fate update part 3-7 with enkidu and gilgamesh vanguard unit

[misty dragon]

or just leaving limited units alone all together
but they chose to make a vf and dig a grave so it is what it is

[foggy stump]

if gilg's fam aint that good cuz hes limited, then all limited vanguard should stick to the original concept of them not being top meta according to this logic

[tawny burrow]

see the things is, a majority of the units in this game are limited

[toxic igloo]

should i remove the holy buff on this
-# this is not a secondary familiar

[stiff crystal]

I'm not just talking about his Vfamiliar

i rlly dont care for that

[tawny burrow]

and most meta units are in that majority of limited units

be it new or old meta

[modern cloud]

that’s why a new unit would be best

[forest quail]

av devs vs accountability

[dim trench]

Omg gilgas 2nd familiar leaked

[sick river]

unironically the inflated ego of the vast majority of the devs & testers is kind of crazy

[young bone]

nah buff the new enkidu unit nature plus holy double

[timber sonnet]

They always lose

[timid drift]

bro doe NOT gaf ☠️

[toxic igloo]

since when is enkidu in the game

[young bone]

since my agenda started

[fallen lance]

Nah cuz even if they made the current familiar not get debuffed from units placed near him instead of slow/stun it would’ve been better

[timber sonnet]

I bet he plays Jeff

Fuck Jeff mains

[sick river]

since all of miso's stage suggestions got added to the game

[faint swift]

they'll end up listening to suggestions if the ccu dips around 10k

[toxic igloo]

yea

[sick river]

including the upcoming ones

[sick river]

deadass true

this happened w/ the aot update

[remote orbit]

ATP I might like try to join him in marvel rivals or sum so this vf can get a buff

[forest quail]

and certain testers are getting paid to be boy toys cough cough

[forest quail]

yep

[toxic igloo]

forgot that had spoilers

[stiff crystal]

ban

[tall fiber]

STAR THISSSS

[timber sonnet]

This happened with everysingle time they die

[faint swift]

found it funny how shiny transfer wasnt added just cause a dev was annoyed by why people wanted it

[sick river]

why are we still playing marvel rivals damn near coming up on 2026 🥀

[timber sonnet]

They’re forced to listen

[rapid pecan]

Owner gng😭

[remote orbit]

Yea the devs are lwk arrogant

[tall fiber]

marvel rivals is good

[forest quail]

legit how girls act

[tawny burrow]

"lwk"