#Complete Odyssey Overhaul (Suggestion to the Community)

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outer breach
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u barely have any meatshields

deft thistle
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uhh

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coin cat

outer breach
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pogo cat is doodoo

deft thistle
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burgercat

deft thistle
outer breach
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gacha

deft thistle
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❓ ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓

outer breach
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doodoo

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pogo more like poopoo

deft thistle
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with the current summer event

deft thistle
spice cobalt
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Shut up noob

deft thistle
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message didnt send at first

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pmo

spice cobalt
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Im struggling to read the tldr rn

outer breach
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i have 5 plaintum tickets

lapis solstice
spice cobalt
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Ts is not for the weak

outer breach
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idk what to get

deft thistle
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its on 10th

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so a week

spice cobalt
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Oh

outer breach
spice cobalt
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Good

outer breach
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what is bro saying

lapis solstice
deft thistle
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or whats she called

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theyre adding her along superfest

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so you can try and get her from plats

outer breach
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dawg im talking about PLATINUM TICKETS

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oh

deft thistle
outer breach
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is the new

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best of the best

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guy good

deft thistle
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goated

deft thistle
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hes insane

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yk the daboo stage right

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for green shell

outer breach
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im so done with nanaho

deft thistle
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with all the metal and stuff

outer breach
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the monkey never crits

deft thistle
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he quite literally solos ts

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you dont need to bring ANYTHING but him

outer breach
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wow

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i really need a new metal killer

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i will get him

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screw nanaho

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doo doo dogshit

deft thistle
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and the thing is

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he slows

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with mini waves

outer breach
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wow

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i like waves

deft thistle
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so barely anything can get to him

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(out of his target traits)

outer breach
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i ned dark cateyes

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no ultra form

deft thistle
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just get + levels smh

outer breach
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i want that crane ultra form

outer breach
light crane
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is this peak gng?

deft thistle
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smh

outer breach
deft thistle
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i mean

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im gettin 20

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trying to

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3 in so far

outer breach
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what the fuck 😭

deft thistle
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17 to go

deft thistle
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i couldve been probably done with ul by now

outer breach
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bro really wants to breeze through ul

deft thistle
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but nah

deft thistle
outer breach
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just be like me and have 5 ubers in every game

deft thistle
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and then when i get access to level 60

outer breach
deft thistle
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level 80 cosmoSteamHappy

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not stopping there though

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eventually i will get the +70

outer breach
deft thistle
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one day..

outer breach
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by the time u get that we gonna have smth after zl

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ngl battle cats fell off

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where is papaluga uf

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smh

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bad game

deft thistle
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on bro

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on a real note though

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why do they not want to give lugas uf so much

outer breach
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papaluga uf needs to cost like 99 golden catfruits and 99 golden catfruit seeds for a 10 range increase

deft thistle
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galaxy gals and the pokemons get one every 2 updates

outer breach
deft thistle
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and lugas just sit there

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and do nothing

outer breach
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the devs literally cannot make a good luga

deft thistle
outer breach
deft thistle
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talented furiluga being luffy but better:

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true but doesnt mean hes bad

outer breach
deft thistle
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but he quite literally does luffys damage but in a big ass area

outer breach
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we neded more iron legions uf

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they so cool

deft thistle
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yeah iron legin is cool

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BUT

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but

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gunduros:

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🤤

austere loom
outer breach
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ganglion uf is gonna break the game

lapis solstice
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Guys I May be cooking but Do you think there should be another trait that is called excecute(could be a normal or mid tier trait). You are excecuting bosses with 3 or 2% of their max hp. You could spin that on units like itadori to make sukuna obtainment easier

deft thistle
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getting ut😂

lapis solstice
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Or is my yapp even readable

outer breach
lapis solstice
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We could even lower the excecute tp 1,5

outer breach
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make ur own suggestion

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🙏💔

lapis solstice
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I was asking about opinions

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On that topic

outer breach
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by making a suggestion

lapis solstice
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But you are an egg after all. A hard shell but nothing inside

deft thistle
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odyssey overhaul but were talking about battle cats

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peak

outer breach
lapis solstice
outer breach
outer breach
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and the shell aint even hard

lapis solstice
deft thistle
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this guy js saying shit

outer breach
lapis solstice
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I May be eepy

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And I am bored

outer breach
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u can become less bored by afk farming in the popular hit roblox game "anime vanguards"

deft thistle
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afk chamber vanguards

lapis solstice
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And afk

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Meh

outer breach
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have u gotten every rrs in the demon slayer raid?

lapis solstice
deft thistle
outer breach
deft thistle
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got them on the update

lapis solstice
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What else is there to do. Cant let it catch dust

outer breach
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its like 10 minute for 1 rrs vro

deft thistle
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i had time back then

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still do now

outer breach
lapis solstice
deft thistle
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shiny alucard

outer breach
deft thistle
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get subaru

lapis solstice
deft thistle
lapis solstice
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Being worth two Cents

outer breach
deft thistle
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who even is the lb unit

lapis solstice
deft thistle
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get uhh

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rengoku

lapis solstice
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Got him

outer breach
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get monarch sanji

deft thistle
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true

lapis solstice
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He sold aligator

outer breach
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get a god roll birb

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wait no

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get 4

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god roll birbs

lapis solstice
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Oh hell naw

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Maybe later

outer breach
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spend 50 bucks on buying rrs for @outer breach

lapis solstice
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So the devs can buy their second hell cat

outer breach
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why are these bundles so expensive anyways

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they cost more then whole entire triple A games

green bobcat
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how dare yall turn my suggestion into gen 3 madge

nocturne bluff
outer breach
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maybe we should just make odyssey battle cats?

green bobcat
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TRUUUUE

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arx but good

lapis solstice
spice cobalt
lapis solstice
spice cobalt
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Ill ping

pallid merlin
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ok they aren't going to but phoenix shards as a robux product would actually rake in more money than trait rrs

green bobcat
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If familiars were monetized in any way it'd be gg

pallid merlin
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yea im glad they arent but If they really wanted to give into greed that would probably be the best way

opal lotus
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Bc testers do what they want

echo summit
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oh

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so this is confirmed

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its pinged

jolly spade
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it just bring in more positive feedbacks

echo summit
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isnt that unfair for other suggestions

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since everyone needs to bump to keep on top

jolly spade
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yeah I do agree

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it's lowkey unfair

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but ig that's part of the testers benefits 🤷‍♂️

echo summit
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maybe

jolly spade
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getting his own suggestion pinged bc hes a tester

robust hull
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even the tldr is too much yap 💔

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probably a good idea tho

opal lotus
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How u allowed to pin bro

green bobcat
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This suggestion is pinned because this a suggestion for the community to see, not the devs

opal lotus
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Unfair advantage🫩

lime thistle
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@green bobcat idk how u feel about this, but rather than set rewards of phoenix/elemental/corruption/gems, you get odyssey coins which you can use to choose your own rewards

green bobcat
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I asked if I could post a suggestion in the main server to get more feedback beyond tester team and Seilo said he’d pin it for a couple days to help make sure it got as much as it could

green bobcat
green bobcat
lime thistle
green bobcat
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I think the biggest issue is that gems are half the pool

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The others are 20-15-15, with corruption being 20

lime thistle
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im js waffling but what if it had a ratio of gems/phoenix/elemental/corruption and at the end of the game it was evenly split for the ratio

green bobcat
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Even splits would probably lead to resource bloat on the other two shards too

lime thistle
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not 1:1:1

green bobcat
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Even still

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You use corruption the least out of all the shards

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And phoenix way more than elemental

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But weighting phoenix higher as a result would break what the entire reward balance is for

green bobcat
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I know it sucks, believe me, I'd love nothing more than to be able to shower players in phoenix shards to gamble on familiars as much as they want lol

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But we just can't do that if familiars are supposed to be a big part of trading

warped gust
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As long as it’s hard as fuck and not long, I’m all for it

river jolt
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unpin ts

austere loom
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favoristism

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it doesnt seem bad though if its js for community feedback

warped gust
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Not devs

austere loom
warped gust
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So you’re aware

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All good then

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Suggestion is good tho

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Way better than the slop we have rn

austere loom
green bobcat
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It'd be nice if we could make prototype builds and test it on the side

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Because this is such a massive overhaul, I'd genuinely like to be able to playtest it a lot and finetune things like the game flow and reward structure

tacit breach
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less buggy updates :)

green bobcat
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The thing is, it's not even really on the testers about buggy updates

tacit breach
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i mean it sorta is

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there just isnt enough of y'all to be able to bug hunt at the scale required

green bobcat
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Funny thing is that there actually kinda is.

green bobcat
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The problem is that we can't exactly make bugs be fixed. Or find everything that somehow breaks on live that works fine on test, or just randomly breaks during a push to live

tacit breach
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i find it hard to believe there was enough of you to figure out broly's cutscene just didnt work -_-

orchid mirage
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bad suggestion
never suggest ever again

green bobcat
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It was reported

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That's about the most we can do pepeLmao

tacit breach
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and it just wasnt fixed for a few days? 💔

orchid mirage
green bobcat
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It was the same thing with temporal rifts

echo summit
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or stress test

raw torrent
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is this general 3 now with NO cd

green bobcat
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Releasing update basically is stress testing lmao. You can't really do that without leaking things

raw torrent
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Anyway it's time I give my opinion on this

green bobcat
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nuh uh

tacit breach
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its a pinned suggestion

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that we can talk in

raw torrent
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its good

azure turtle
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Why is this pinned

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L favoritism

green bobcat
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Smh

wise elbow
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Sooo when we reworking worldliens doe

azure turtle
green bobcat
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I already wanna do the same for elemental reactions, it was a cool concept Smile

deft lotus
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cool concept that was executed poorly

green bobcat
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It's a cool system when you can take advantage of it, not when you have to find every way possible to ignore it

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"Why remember the good reactions when you can just play to ignore the bad ones"

deft lotus
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yup pretty much when it was first introduced the way I ignored every reaction was only using holy or cosmic units

green bobcat
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better concept than "element do more damage to this and less to this"

obsidian orbit
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I meant rumbling

green bobcat
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never

austere loom
wise elbow
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Sure

fallen portal
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also limbs when

lapis solstice
hardy cradle
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W NetherMeowNyaa

pallid merlin
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wildest suggestion EVER

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I'm crying

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not a single star on that

hollow lagoon
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war is over

green bobcat
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I don't like exercising power to close down threads

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but that was worth it

summer anvil
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did bro pin his own suggestion

summer anvil
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and it actually made portals harder, if you didnt have monarch vsjw you'd suffer

green bobcat
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Also for the elemental thing, yeah that damage buff thing would've been simpler, but also more boring. I prefer it not existing at all, I liked the concept of the chart, but it was just done poorly. Something like a pokemon matchup chart is at least somewhat more interesting

lapis solstice
umbral tundra
green bobcat
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We have close perms, not pin

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oh

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wait we do nvm, i was just blind

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av experience shining through

umbral tundra
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Yea I've had to repin the suggestion 101 like 3 timesAlfretootie

raw torrent
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if I made one could you pin mines

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even if its ass

gray bough
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surte bro

spice cobalt
leaden hemlock
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what if

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instead of odyssey

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we called it evenyssey

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lmk

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lmk what yall think

vast dirge
leaden hemlock
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hero fruad

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hero x >>>

robust hull
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i should lowkey change my pfp

robust hull
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nice is a bum 💔

leaden hemlock
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😭

robust hull
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thats better

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fits way too well with gambler role wtf

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why didnt i do this earlier

uneven surge
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why is this pinned

lapis solstice
warm axle
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Because its made by a tester whos also the one who made the current design for odyssey

warped gust
green bobcat
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Because putting this much effort into the main game for testing and refining is too much

warped gust
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Easy enough

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Just make a one to one copy of av

noble fractal
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how come this got pinned

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and my goated parkour suggestion didnt

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😔

green bobcat
noble fractal
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🤔

sly parcel
thorny cape
wise portal
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Complete Odyssey Overhaul (Suggestion to the Community)

deft lotus
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What sort of privilege is this getting the suggestion pinned, what about my goated suggestions?

north falcon
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i want my suggestions to be pinned too goober

golden fable
deft lotus
green bobcat
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Unfortunately I have no idea how much it's being considered

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but part of that is why I want community input and feedback

deft lotus
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We are praying for the devs to consider it praygeBlessed

deft thistle
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They saw the "change vf quest from 25 stages"

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And instead of any stage (odyssey pretty much) they changed it to 25... LONGER stages

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Revolutionary

green bobcat
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Huh

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It’s 5 stage clears for each

deft thistle
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Like with vfs

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People didnt like the boring 25 stages

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So they made it different by making it longer pretty much

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So when it comes to other ideas/reworks/complaints

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They'll see it and IF they do implement, it'll be the worst version of that suggestion

green bobcat
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I mean, longer, maybe. Not really for the obito one, but the aizen one I guess

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Tbh that’s kinda how VF quests should’ve been. Or at least as a start

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These are way better than the “clear 25 stages” thing

deft thistle
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Shouldve been interesting
Or at least same level of engagement of the vf evo quest

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Not vf

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Vanguard

green bobcat
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They’re just filler content

deft thistle
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Yet give the strength of a vanguard

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🖲️

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Worst addition to the game by far were vfs

green bobcat
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I mean, Sukuna was really the only one to do that

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And it wasn’t really intentional

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VFs are fine, it’s just the obtainment was sloppy and boring, and trying to give them to unobtainable units

deft thistle
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sukuna is just damage, followup, and curse buff

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gilga familiar is the first one to do smt interesting

deft thistle
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how i view vfs, is like ultra talents in battle cats (dunno if you know what that is)
some units have ultra forms, which you can view as vanguard evos
other units have ultra talents, which are not an evolution but unlockable buffs that act similar to vfs

(both of these need a lot of resources invested and are quite difficult to obtain)

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the thing is

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battle cats updates once every few months

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or a month

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idk

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and it only adds 1 MAYBE 2 ufs/uts, sometimes even none

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the problem isnt the vfs, but the entire way of handling them

spice cobalt
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Yo peep my ubers in bc

deft thistle
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the obtainment, the design, the frequency

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its all handled terribly

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except gilga hes fine (though im still salty he doesnt attack during the single target thing)

spice cobalt
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Saber my beloved

deft thistle
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damn you got pai pai

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🤤

deft thistle
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bro

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my internet is so ass

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it barely loads the images

spice cobalt
deft thistle
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i hope so

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until then ill be getting copies of cosmo

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so i can have +20 and get his uf

spice cobalt
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PLUS 20?!?!?!?

deft thistle
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yeah

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17 to go

spice cobalt
deft thistle
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got like 8k cf saved up rn

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so when the guaranteed banner comes

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i can possibly get a few more

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i really hope

deft thistle
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im almost done with 3 star sol too

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doing literally anything but ul

north falcon
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now if you want to grind for obito, you cant do another event at the same time

green bobcat
north falcon
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and in the end forces some people to slog through something they dont quite enjoy as much

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idk how to explain it properly

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i have it in my mind but i cannot compile it into a coherent thought

north falcon
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even longer

green bobcat
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It's fomo, yes, but once you get the main meat of the event

north falcon
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is worse

green bobcat
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It's literally just currency

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People look at the events like they're a chores list

north falcon
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i dont think there was a single like

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long break between the familiars/events

green bobcat
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Well yeah, because they're just bits of filler

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Especially the recent VFs

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Because 9.0 is gonna be taking a while

dawn iron
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@green bobcat

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do u have odyssey save in here

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my suggestion

green bobcat
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I need to figure out how we can really do a save feature with 50 wave stages

dawn iron
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lemme read your thing

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and lyk

green bobcat
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At baseline, it could easily be after every stage completion

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Because mid-stage saves would be weird, since players could just quit out and reload if they don't like the modifier selection after a boss

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but tbh, after stage completions might be all we really need in a save feature, since it's intended more for people that want longer runs and don't want to lose everything

dawn iron
green bobcat
dawn iron
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if I finish stage 2, dont like the modifier in stage 3 or am about to die

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I leave

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come back start of stage 3

green bobcat
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and if you'd get halfway through stage 2 and quit, you'd just be at the start of stage 2. I guess it would let players reset if they don't like their modifiers in stage 2

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but atp

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it's horribly inefficient

dawn iron
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im assuming your rewards will scale

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I didnt read the whole thing yet tho

green bobcat
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We could also maybe make saved runs work like the seed system

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so that if you quit and join back in

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you'll get the exact same stuff

dawn iron
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thats smart

green bobcat
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Cuts out the “quit and load to get new things” people would do for late game runs

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Though I’d also be planning to remove the 0 and minus intensity options

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The game should infinitely scale and reach points where it’s just too much

opal lotus
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Yo do u think the devs would ever make I it so all start cards spawn at the beginning of the match

robust hull
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can we get a tldr for the tldr for the tldr

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id appreciate it

green bobcat
robust hull
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now can we get a tldr for the tldr for the tldr for the tldr

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that would be great

green bobcat
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no

robust hull
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L tester

noble fractal
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Pibble best av guild

green bobcat
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its in regards to current odyssey Smile

robust hull
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mb

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now can we get a tldr for the tldr for the tldr for the tldr for the tldr

green bobcat
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L

upper yacht
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Yo

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To much yap

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Just rewrite the Tldr

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So i could understand

tepid surge
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someone reply to the original post I can't

upper yacht
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Since when could we do documents in suggestions.. tester power

true vigil
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Here

true vigil
tepid surge
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thank you

spice cobalt
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I don’t remember which but a pretty high level

fiery scroll
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man if it takes up my entire frickin screen its not a tldr..

green bobcat
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It's hard to make a TLDR when there's so many different things Sob4k

green bobcat
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I’m not good at making them either, I get carried away

proud plaza
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Tldr: re

vapid palm
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what does tldr stand for

deft lotus
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too long, didnt read

dawn iron
vast dirge
raw torrent
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omg bruh

brisk bluff
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I have to read everything since i love odyssey maw

robust hull
brisk bluff
robust hull
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what is bro typing

green bobcat
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its okay, we cant read

robust hull
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HOW IS HE STILL TYPING

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is he reworking it already 😭

robust hull
brisk bluff
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peak ngl this remake would def make me wanna play limitless again ✌️ and about cards changes, i agree about the affinity part the best buff is the spa one the rest is kinda okay, the best defense really needs some changes in the odyssey card tl that i did (because originally it was supposed to be a card tl for the wiki not a unit tl) it was top 3 worst cards 😭the proposed change seems good at least much better then what it is rn, i think delicate flower should stay the same at least for now since there isnt much units that take life stocks or maybe just make them refresh between rooms like you said that would be great, spoils of war only dropping the essence of rarities is also a good change imo bc of the resource card that makes enemies have more hp one of my runs i got like 7 of them through spoils of war and kinda ruined it so being able to craft the modifier i want would def be better, numbing agent would be good if theres an option to like just stun at +10 stacks or you can choose to slow for 60%-70% like you said but if i could only choose one id say slow instead of stun. The new cards i dont really have much to say but they would be a great addition i just have one question about blasting powder if per example the unit is single target would it make the unit have a small ball aoe? or keep the single target

green bobcat
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this would be main mode overhaul

brisk bluff
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well doesnt change much for me

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boi egoed my question 😔

green bobcat
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oh, single target stuff?

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uhhhhh die lol

golden fable
vagrant citrus
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just make it like MD from limbus company

green bobcat
brisk bluff
proud plaza
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Rukia

green bobcat
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rukia isnt real

green bobcat
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wider trigger area trust

fiery scroll
jolly spade
vast dirge
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still havent fixed the full aoe visual for them

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😡

slate robin
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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

green bobcat
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gang it's pinned, it doesn't need a bump Sob4k

opal lotus
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😤

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Nowwww

green bobcat
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Nuh uh

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It’s not my call

lapis solstice
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Gen 3 growing with each day

green bobcat
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That’s just every suggestion thread tbh

deft lotus
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Bump

opal lotus
slate matrix
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Im an odyssey lover

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and i fw this

proper drum
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not reading allat but i fw this

short sable
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How do i read it without all these damn comments ;-;

raw torrent
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shit

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ok

short sable
short sable
raw torrent
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i forgot to change my name

granite nest
hollow thorn
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Peak

left juniper
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HewwO tester-chan

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It cabbit Kaachan

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Kaachan no wead allat KannaFrustrated

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But it okie

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Kaachan give you pats for effort bubba!

drowsy bramble
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Wow

left juniper
radiant token
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Honestly I love this take on odyssey please get this in the game but why no secret or exclusive unit for making it worth the while every so often like worldlines?

green bobcat
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Which I don't see an issue with if it's just for interacting in a natural way

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I'd like to add it, but I don't know if I'll get the okay

radiant token
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That’s understandable people could take it the wrong way. Either way I love it it’ll definitely make me want to play it more

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Or maybe not a unit but a familiar that’s ig better than others that come with an update?

green bobcat
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It'd definitely be a longer stage to sit through

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But I think since AV is slower paced anyways, it's better than constantly resetting stage after stage

radiant token
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Yeah don’t get me wrong I love how easy it is to get rerolls and familiars if I get them. I personally have a hard time getting on and finding things to do. So this odyssey thing rework seems like it’ll maybe help with that

green bobcat
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I have a lot of other things I want to add or tweak

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That haven't been added to the doc because I want more of a green light to do so

granite void
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Ts is peak twin 🙏🏻 never put down the pen

leaden hemlock
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ok but

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how do we feel abt

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this

green bobcat
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amazing

green bobcat
vapid palm
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tldr is too long make it shorter

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cmon im a vanguardian you should be aware of how short my attention span is

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oh nvm you made one

raven meadow
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odyseey is good enough

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this is good but like finishing the 25 stages for the vanguard familiar is gonna be hell i've never seen before

lime thistle
deft lotus
green bobcat
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That’s what people play to do the 25 stages

raven meadow
green bobcat
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Yes

raven meadow
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my bad then

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i though ur were talking about the limitless one

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if thats the case then ur suggestion is pretty good and is gonna make odyssey fun and rewarding to play

slate matrix
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Bump

finite kindle
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Bump

neon thorn
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wow

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first suggestion

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im confused though why youre needing to make one

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anyway

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anime buttguards dying like usual cuz no guilds

idle cliff
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when that update drops we gonna get 150k ccu

neon thorn
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REAL

green bobcat
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one can dream that it would

green bobcat
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it's for feedback purposes

neon thorn
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Ohh Ofc

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Now we need a pinned suggestions on guilds

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To rack in that 400k ccu

green bobcat
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you are way too obsessed with guilds bro 🥀

plain token
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ASK THE DEVS

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TO CHANGE

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ELEMENTAL SHARDS

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IT LOOKS LIKE RRS

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IM 40 RRS AWAY FROM PITY SUKUNA

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I ACCIDENTALLY BOUGHT ELEMENTAL SHARDS CUZ IT LOOKS THE SAME!!!!!!!

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IM SO PISSED

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WHY DO I HAVE TO GO PITY

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IM A F2P PLAYER WHY IS AV TREATING ME LIKE THIS

warm axle
deft thistle
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Thats on youSob4k

plain token
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bro come on

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lets be fr

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It looks the same

green bobcat
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no they dont Sob4k

plain token
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yes they do

deft thistle
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Are you colorblind

leaden hemlock
#

thats js what happens after burning all units and placing escanor for 5 hrs

verbal knoll
#

Pretty decent suggestion for odyssey, but if this gets green lighted, where are we gonna do our 25 runs for the vanguard familiars? Part of the reason why ppl even play odyssey now is cuz it only takes 25 or so minutes to complete the vanguard familiar quests, this makes it time efficient for both ppl who dont have much time to grind av and for ppl that have way better things to grind like idk cid raid, this change will make a LOT of the community mad imo cuz we're essentially forced to grind for around 2 hours a day just for 20 rrs or 1/5 progress on the vanguard familiar, but it gets even worse for the permanent ones cuz its 2 hours every day for 10 days. I would like it if the short ver of odyssey is kept but im just here to voice my own opinion, im not anyone special, just a middle school kid who don't got time to grind 2 hours a day just for 20 rrs using a crappy phone that takes around 3 minutes to load the game every time i join a new server

maiden wren
orchid mirage
echo summit
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i just lost

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4 hours run

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bc my power went down

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i hate odyssey so much

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please rework ts or make Phoenix shards in other modes

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familiars are a main thing now

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and i cant even grind shards

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maybe i will have to sacrifice some rrs from event shop

green bobcat
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Was recommended another game that actually does the roguelike TD pretty well, I like the formula they've got. It's given me a few little notes of insight into design, though a lot of it doesn't really apply well to Odyssey for varying reasons. I like the concepts, might adjust the document a bit soon once I can come up with my own changes. Things that fit in without straying too far from just how the game already functions.

acoustic ledge
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It sucks that u can lose all the progress

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Obviously it should reset after cashing out

slate matrix
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Bump

slate matrix
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Or like

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Dedicate a channel to ideas they’ve seen and want to implement

leaden hemlock
green bobcat
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If this rework actually gets considered and worked on, I plan to be much more hands on and involved in testing and tweaking every change so that I don’t end up with another journey mode

green bobcat
# arctic flint can you make it like TBOI

That’d be a pretty cool mode too, honestly. Walking through randomly generated little maps, you place some units and have to clear a very short stage to be able to walk through other doors

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I don’t know how I’d handle actually balancing that though, because it would mean monarch is basically a mandatory thing for later LOL

slate matrix
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Bump

slate matrix
green bobcat
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Oh, no, I was thinking about that at first

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But first person would be a gimmick

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Not a whole mode thing

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Especially for a tower defense

slate matrix
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True

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It would be pretty sick tho

fiery scroll
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i feel like people expect to need good units in an infinitely scaling gamemode

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its alr the same with odyssey rn

green bobcat
fiery scroll
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its like one of the only endgame gamemodes we have and the only infinitely farmable source of pheonix shards

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since birb farming is meant to be hard and only for the minmaxers?

green bobcat
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That doesn’t mean it’s a good way of approaching the mode

fiery scroll
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i hate having to see the presence of trading limit mechanics of the game tsinsanevro

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cuz yeah getting a godroll birb is prob one of the only ways to create value for yourself but if you make them easy to get that way is eventually just locked out cuz traders either just wont trade for them or undervalue them

green bobcat
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Simplest way is putting a soft cap on how much players can really earn. It sucks, but it’d make occasional odyssey runs actually feel while making hardcore automation of farming less effective so that those players can’t shoot way ahead of everyone else

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The problem with making any resource infinite, especially when it’s involved in trading, is that you have to balance it with automation as a constantly looming threat

green bobcat
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Most likely

fiery scroll
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i feel like a limited amount of people would attempt to do something like that if they have better things to do in the game

green bobcat
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I would like to give players the option of playing with friends

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But it really depends on technical limitations

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I see no harm in letting the mode be co-op, and I have a few ideas in mind to make it work

fiery scroll
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if its up to 4 ppl then 3 alts can join and make the automation problem worse

green bobcat
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Yeah but if they’re doing that, they can probably just automate all the alts in solo anyways

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I guess carrying them could be an issue but there could be some preventative measures in place

fiery scroll
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lmao im sure people still have alts remaining from anime defenders

green bobcat
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Oh of course

short trout
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Hello niche community

green bobcat
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I’m sure there’s ways I can make the mode co-op accessible without making alts too abusable, but I’d have to also try and balance the rewards and such accordingly for both co-op and solo to make the mode feel worthwhile to play

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I think first off, limiting the mode to exclusively familiar interaction kinda hurts it, because familiars are mainly just end-game min maxing for the best ones

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And most casual players can get by just fine with phoenix shards and such from events to spend on the more straightforward and simple familiars

short trout
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Agree

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Not gonna read anything but agree

green bobcat
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I’m already ruling out damage participation rewards, because then it just basically becomes a fight to see who gets MVP and therefore gets the most rewards.

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It would remove leeches/carrying low leveled alts, but would lead to unfun co-op gameplay

short trout
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Agree fr

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Peak

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Fr

echo summit
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i swear to god

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i cant grind odyssey

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i got 28 monarchs, comp player, here since release etc etc etc

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i grinded 4 hours straight manually

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then my power went down

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and i lost ALL MY PROGRESS

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it only worth it on 2x, and even those days can be pretty bad to play it

arctic flint
#

it'd be a fun and cute concept tho

fiery scroll
echo summit
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mvp is a good system

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when you are the mvp

green bobcat
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Maybe participation based rewards could work. I suppose if co-op odyssey is pretty much just limited to who you get in one lobby...

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I dunno, to me it just feels like trying to get people together is either a "I carry you and you get next to no rewards so it's pointless" or a "we're all fighting to try and get a slice of that rewards cake"

copper merlin
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this is good

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bump

fresh blaze
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then we cant do unit stage events anymore 🙁

green bobcat
unborn hound
unborn hound
orchid mirage
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limitless on top

unborn hound
orchid mirage
#

you can't just kill the 500 gems every 4 mins mode

unborn hound
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my main complaint is just with event missions

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i want it fun and engaging not brain numbing boring

fiery scroll
#

most of the content is brain numbing boring you just get dopamine from rolling

opal lotus
green bobcat
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It is

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That's literally just the data list of unit names lol

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Oh wait

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No, I misread that

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the list doesn't include the remodels lol

green bobcat
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Yes

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There's remodels

opal lotus
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Ik

green bobcat
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The list posted doesn't include the remodels though

opal lotus
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So 1 counts for evos and unevo

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So 1 unit counts as 2

green bobcat
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yeah

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Because that's literally just the code list for the update units group, if I had to guess

jolly spade
idle cliff
green bobcat
#

I mean, if you wanna be wrong, sure

jolly spade
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there's 13 models to remodel

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9 is jjk units plus frieran n the tourney skins

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that's 13

idle cliff
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they have to remodel EVERYTHING

jolly spade
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plus anni units is 14

idle cliff
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its not just those

jolly spade
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so i don't tihnk that list is including unevos n evos

vast dirge
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didnt pyseph already say it was evo and unevo

idle cliff
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mushy no ragebaiting!!

jolly spade
#

SINCE there's 13 remodels

idle cliff
jolly spade
#

n 14 anni units

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which adds up to 27

idle cliff
#

wow man

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theres 14 units and you double that with unevos you get 28

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except 1 doesnt need an evolution

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making 27

jolly spade
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i just said that

idle cliff
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no

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no you didnt

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can u go 1 second without ragebaiting

vast dirge
#

ik a person named mushy irl

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u tainting his name 💔

green bobcat
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It was confirmed

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That’s literally just a folder of unit names and their evo names for anniversary

umbral tundra
#

Nah man pyseph is lying to us all
Trust

green bobcat
#

True

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That’s actually all the future LB unit rewards

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Yes we’re going back to units

unborn hound
#

are the units releasing as copyright

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i thought they werent doing remodels till the community votes on a model

opal lotus
green bobcat
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Probably not

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I'm not sure if they plan to make it work or not

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or if there's technical things preventing the old ones from being tradable

unborn hound
#

are limited items gonna be tradable?

fiery scroll
#

does anyone remember the devs saying the anniversary units will be around the same

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in terms of how good they are

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i cant find the ss

unborn hound
fiery scroll
#

of good

unborn hound
fiery scroll
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but i swear i rmb someone sayi g it

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@jolly spade

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do you have the ss

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where they say that

umbral tundra
#

iirc it was said all dev units would be around the same
not all units in the upd

deft lotus
opal lotus
deft lotus
jolly spade
#

i paid $200 for a mount adn I can't trade it?

deft lotus
opal lotus
#

It’s lame asf but they prolly can’t do it bc technical issues

deft lotus
#

If they were to do it then the code would probably need to be reworked to allow it

opal lotus
#

Yea that makes sense

idle cliff
fickle barn
#

So you changed my display

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And pinned your message so no one could reach higher than you

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I can play along,catch.