#Dragon Ball Super Update - Redux
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yea ik they would be secret right
they're usually more detailed but i'll save that solely for goatgito
yeah idk wtf av devs were cooking with the other 2
3rd passive for vegeta could be Father and Son and like after Trunks attacks an enemy this unit will follow up with attack x
and some other stuff
maybe lol
yea
boss shredder and protector
oh then rage
@rough horizon u tryna let me steal ideas from that one ssj2 gohan suggestion 🙏
-# i'll credit you dw
maybe him and piccolo are duo units
then after a certain upgrade he gets smacked some how and becomes beast
again, ruins the potential of both units
also theres not enough notable characters in super hero for that 😭
or make him stand alone idk 😭
yeah he's meant to be the evo
lowkey this is just like
buu saga evolved units
- an update
ye
yes as it should be
they should done that with bleach
from espada arc to tybw
real bruh ichigo deserved a vanguard
horn of salvation
does that not sound like a vanguard
nah they wouldn't even do that bruh
they would make ichigo ingredients for an aizen evolution
and then the aizen evo is HOS Ichigo shattering into kyokasuigetsu
and it turns out to be aizen
this is basically what they did with making vegeta into broly if you rlly think about it
i thought vegeta would be the vangaurd
i was very wrong
DEADASS
i was thinking vegeta would evo into like
hollon
ssg
yes BRO ME TOO
but no its broly beating the shit out of vegeta
i mean we have a gogeta anyway
vanguard is just for double evos
and seasonal stuff
which G4 happened to be
no idea how gogeta translates into a winter vanguard but whatev
deadass
save her for the war arc upd or sum
i'm praying that rukia is the winter vanguard
read the messages me and king meh have been planning
yea so Roku (Super 3) -> Roku (Blue)
goku and vegeta can fuse into blue vegito after x amout of swaps
nah nah wait
that’s how it is on av
wdym
have it be vegeta as the first form i gotta keep it consistent
check the msg i linked
switch-up of doom and despair 💀
we gonna have this guy be the winter vanguard too
oh so you already have a blue goku unit
lol
uhh i forgot i think goku
he did?
lol
✌️
so when u equip the unit it would be Vogita (Blue)
new idea alert
after the time limit for fusion is over and they defuse
they go into base and lose like 50% damage
then after some time they regain and you can refuse again
yo that’s too good 😭
cause this
how much time till they can refuse
they in fused after they used god final kamehameha cuz it took too much energy
unfused*
maybe when time limit is up they just use final kamehameha as like a desperate final nuke type attack
yea that works
then the spirit sword thing is just part of vegito's attacks
uhh nah
who do i do next for T.O.P
Gotta add Toppo
too much efforttt
Toppo vs Vegeta unit like invis vs conq
abstaining from it cause he already has a vanguard evo and theres already another vegeta unit in vegito
yeah but do you think they're gonna evo him again..???
you got the full clear
nah he’s would be a stand alone
prob a secret unit from the upd
wdym
vegeta vegeta vegeta
top upd?
well no but cmon
u think they gon add all dbz arcs in 1 upd cap
u thinking too logically when u make suggestions u do it for fun bro
evo vegeta will be a skin 🙏
NO
for regular vegeta btw
oh hell naw
he already got the green jacket skin
if anything
the skin would be for bblue vegito
Blue evo vegeta and kaioken goku
vegito is ultra ego and instinct
bru u already made ui goku sob
oh
this guy
then why u said this
i mean out of the characters i selected
oh
at the top of the suggestion
alr
uh i based him off of a dbl unit
it allowed for him to revive into ui
also he goes into mui anyway
oh that one
thats gonna be a 2k rbx skin 
yep 🥹
i won’t ever be able to get it
i swear bro 💔
trade is coming, trust...
🥰
uhh you guys got some passive names for jiren
lemme think
1st one is concealed wrath
special passive is full-power assault (when he takes off the shirt)
he's like a parallel to ui goku and his kit
Wall of Pride or Absolute Defense
wall of pride? that sounds like a vegeta passive
absolute defense?
depends on what its referencing
huh
like how he defends almost all of goku attacks
before he went ui
just an idea
How about Power Beyond Comparison
or True Justice idk
Immovable Will
Unrivaled Power or Strength without Equal
that’s all i can think of
strength without equal
enforcer of justice?
or trooper of justice since he's like a pride trooper yk
Go ahead
thank you o wise and venerable miso
i know it is utterly disrespectful of me to ask the stars from someone who has already given me the moon
but could u help me
make passives for jiren
Uhhh i don’t even know what he does
same boat as me
I only like dbz
😭
just make a basic fire unit
with like
grolwing power
with me
🙏
+67% damage every time this unit inflicts burn
uhhh
follow up with attack 6 every time this unit inflicts burn 7 times
@faint sparrow i need help
Idk mabye he could have a slow start mechanic
thats what im thinking but how do i relaly do that
Where he builds up % until he first attacks
Something something
Or he doesn’t attack until x time has past
2nd would be cool to play around with
ok 1st passive
he starts out meditating and you can choose when he unmeditates but his start will be slower depending on how early you release him
every x waves or seconds he gains a stack of fury
at 10 stacks he gots into the full power form
2nd passive he has like stacking burn
so the more burn he inflicts the high er% it does like darkflame
3rd passive uhh
he doies better with no buffs and is immune to debuffs since he doesn't trust others and shi
idk
why are more mfs disliking the suggestion 💀
@lost girder whats the hating for
he does trust others wdym
he legit has allies he trusts
bro the whole top arc is him learning to trust his teamates because he didn't give a shit about them before
u sure?
thats why he says "so the power of trust is universe 7" or something
he literally learns to trust his allies mid fight he wasn't doing anything for them before
oh wow
• On placement, Jiren enters a Meditation State (he does not attack).
• The player may manually release Jiren at any time.
• The longer he meditates, the stronger he becomes:
- Release within 10s → Jiren starts with -20% DMG, -10% Range, -5% Attack Speed.
- Release within 20s → No bonuses or penalties.
- Release after 30s+ → Jiren starts with +20% DMG, +10% Range, +10% Attack Speed.
• Every X waves / 30s on the field, Jiren gains +1 Fury stack. - At 10 Fury stacks, Jiren transforms into Full Power Jiren, gaining a permanent +100% DMG & +25% Range, plus a unique aura effect (visual flair).
Cold
😭 general 2?
💀
gpt*
lol just to get the structure of the passives u should tweak it cuz it kinda plane on the mediate one
plain*
yeah, maybe if you leave him for like 90 seconds he gains fury stacks faster
thats about the length of an eclipse event so like that?
yea sure
3rd passive
Lone Warrior
• Jiren is immune to all debuffs
• If Jiren has no buffs from allies, he gains +x% DMG and -x% SPA
• If Jiren does receive buffs, his stats return to base values (no bonus, no penalty).
i just took what u said and told it to it so it has the structure
lowkey maybe he's only immune after a certain duration of meditaiton
i made it kinda work like aizen's aura passive
so when he's meditating he can still do some damage
alr done with jiren
uhh lemme check
isnt loading either
@rough horizon i need ur help pls 🙏
?
Buns wifi
😭
we dont need another dragon ball super update man
we really dont
3rd dragon ball update before some anime who deserve it even get 1 is crazy
also, hate the idea of more forced pvp
that was the biggest problem people had and still have with byeken and why most ppl refuse to get her
also a 3rd dragon ball vanguard is crazy 💔
AND its the 3rd permanent vanguard, meaning 2 of 3 permanent vanguards would be dragon ball ones
dude why are all the units in this update absurdly strong
cale and kalifla having a 90% crit rate and self buffing damage by 30%, then having conditional x3 damage on top of that, all before actually critting
the fusion is actually worse than the non fusion 💔
STFU
jiren is also absolutely crazy op
its the most popular anime in the world, it brings in a ton of money ofc they’re gonna do db updates
brother hasn't even seen the gamemode yet and is already hating
the problem isnt DB updates in general
such a non-issue
the problem is it being a 3rd db update so soon
theres still so many db characters they can do
i could see a 3rd db update on update 18 or smth
nobody said for this to be soon
all of their base damage is gonna be low ash anyway
shouldnt be seeing as how 1 is a vanguard and the other 2 are secrets
they're designed to be more reliant on fully gaining their passive before actually doing serious dmg
shouldn't? why
r u saying i should purposefully unbalance them because of their rarity
so all dragon ball units are just meant to do that or smth?
their base damage is the only thing thats able to keep them balanced in the first place 😭
cuz all the good ones we have rn are that exact same way except frieza
never said that but sure
MY units are
the actual db units just so happen to be as well
💀
nobody from buu saga even has to fully fulfill their passive anyway
so you're just wrong
gang i think your forgeting one thing
this is a suggestion doesn’t matter if it gets added or not ppl make them for fun
yeah like i was the one who suggested vfamiliars and this guy was hating on it
because the values i put in were "too good"
the devs adjusted it later and then added them to the game
buu simply existing but ok
One outlier
its literally the main unit of the update...
also, goku super 3 too?
No, thats Vegito
way more work was put into buu than vegito
just look at them
Doesn't make him the main unit?
its literally called the buu saga
are you deadass
yeah the main characters of the saga are the main unit of the update
who would've guessed
or was it 6
i forget
5 units in the update besides for buu, 2 being BP units
so 3 non-buu units
and buu having 6 forms
i think buu was the focus
he had more work put into him, doesn't mean he's the focu
my guy is comparing an obvious non centered arc to an obvious centered arc
what
buu saga is literally all about buu's progression and eventual redemption
REDEMPTION?
bros evil 😭
via hercule yes
HUHHHHHHHHHHH
as redeemed as he can reasonably get
besides the point anyway
buu is the main villain
main villains are the main antagonistic focus
main characters are overall the main focus of the entire story itself
one clearly outweighs the other
and what does that have to do with which is more focused on in an update in AV?
you're the one who brought it up
cuz buu is the main story arc that happens
^
almost all the storytelling is related to him
then why'd you ask me this
just like he is the main focus of the update
i just proved you wrong and you said "what does that have to do with anything"
comparing a unit with 6 forms versus a unit with 3
More forms =/= Main unit???
where'd you get this from
so frieza is the main unit of the broly update right
technically broly has more forms in that regard
no he doesn't he has 3
so 2 forms
regular and golden
technically its a tie between broly and gogeta, and arguments can be made for both being the main unit
broly in general is super easy to get
takes like 4 hours
but because broly requires gogeta evo to obtain, he'd be the center of the update
and if we look at which unit is harder to obtain in the buu saga update, that'd be buu easily
u forgot golden frieza with a halo😴
so the unit that’s harder to obtain is the main unit?
the harder unit to obtain that has more work into it, yes
how about bleach upd
technically 3 units qualify for the center of that upd
but we can just say aizen and yhwach are the focus since they are the ones with special obtainments
neither of them have that unique of mechanics in terms of something like forms, so its hard to say which has more effort put into them
"Main" unit as a qualification doesn't really apply then
The update can be centered around multiple units at once, and then we can decipher who's probably more important from their role in the narrative of the anime they're from, and how much content is centered around them
Buu, Vegeta and Goku (+ Vegito) technically are all tied, but Vegito would be more important since 3 of the characters who have an important role in the story are combined into one, while Buu is only "one" person
2 MCs + Fusion > Buu
we cannot decipher at all who is supposed to be the main unit at all based on their role in the anime what
please tell me what relation diavolo has to the dandadan update
he is obviously the main unit of the update
buu has significantly more effort put into him, is significantly harder to get, and is quite a lot better if we talk about update 5.0 and previous
obviously roku super 3 is better now, but thats just because of units that came out after him buffing him
main unit because he's a higher rarity than everyone else and the banner revolves around him
seasonal banners aren't exactly specific anime themed updates
everyone else except buu*
It's a perfectly logical conclusion to say that their roles would play a part in their importance in the update of the anime they're from
i refuse to elaborate further on that
and just cuz a banner revolves around someone doesnt mean they're the center of the update...
look at lfelt and byeken, they were the focuses of their update and yet they werent even on banner
Seasonal banners are different from anime-specific updates 😭
... ?
neither of the updates in reference to that message are seasonal
they are both anime specific
heaven and hell and 25th world tournament are both anime specific updates
Dandadan was a seasonal banner for spring
and once again, AOT update was the exact same way
eren and giant queen, centers of the update, both non banner units
eren is the center of his update a bit more since he has a mechanic that requires giant queen
Seasonal banners are different from anime-specific updates
once again, AOT update isnt a seasonal either
When did I say it was
you keep talking about seasonal updates like im not giving you non-seasonal evidence
blantantly trying to ignore the point and acting like i'd just forget about it
Seasonal banners are different from anime-specific updates
You are trying to use points that pertain solely to anime-specific updates in reference to seasonal banners
why do you think i found anime centered updates to back up my claim?
what is goi ng on bruh
im not at all talking about seasonal banners anymore
You are
im still on the topic of you saying buu update wasnt centered around buu
when it obviously was
^
you are stuck on a topic that i havent talked about since the original messaging for it
You are using anime-specific update evidence in reference to seasonal banners
Unfortuanelty
i dont disagree
vegito shouldve been the center
but it is what it is
Vegito is the center of the update though 😭
NO 😂😂😂😂✌️
this guy is saying lore significance has something at all to do with who is the center of the update
created a whole portal for buu and like 30 forms
Pretty sure buu was the center of that update ngl
UNFORTUNATELY
even miso the goat agrees
you cannot disagree anymore drain
perfect?
They skipped one of my favorite parts of dbz, cell, teen gohan, androids 
why would miso disagreeing with me make me stop my point
cell
does miso define my opinion
Teen gohan is a goat bro
now you're just trying to be a 1970s copy
shameful
NO 😂✌️
lost the argument and then proceeds to try and ragebait instead
^ this is my justification rebel
if you don't agree good for you
yuuri
i've already listed my reasons and you've failed to disprove a single one
what a great show
Avvv
drop vegito blue plz
give this unit some significance
OTHER THAN BEING A SUPPORT 😭😭😭😭
"i dont agree with your reasoning that disproved my argument, and thus my argument isnt disproven" ok buddy
Your reasoning is invalid
You are literally comparing apples to oranges
i give 2 other anime-specific examples and he acts like they just dont exist or smth
Can you read?
If i say "repeat" then the answer is just gonna be this
once again back to the seasonal banner topic when i didnt even mention it as part of my reasoning as to why he was disproven
yea he's just resorting to 1970s wannabe-ing
You brought up diavolo being the main unit of an update even though he isn't specific to the anime
well i mean
like just look
gogeta blue exists
just look
good enough
but hey im just trying to be like 1970 right
im ngl it would be REALLY funny to get another DB update so soon, but it'd probably give them a lot of bad rep
they are essentially brothers dawg
doesnt matter older brother>younger
^
technically gogeta would be the older brother
goku as the majority personality
no he wouldnt
no bruh 😭
goku is TECHNICALLY older
HOLY logic
depends on how u try and define their ages
logic of doom and despair
im not entirely wrong though
u are
in the purely technical sense
literally are
they're 2 fusions of the same dudes what are you on about
theres nothing technical about what ur saying stop using buzzwords
what u said makes no sense
how does being a majority of a personality
make u okder
what does that even mean
think about it
i am
it doesnt make sense
vegetas the majority personality of vegito
dors that make
vegito older
no
that doesnt make sense
oh hold on i think im getting my anime mixed up here
brother
for some reason i was thinking goku was sent through a wormhole and came out at a much later date
forgot it was just a regular wormhole
ive seen too much anime man
wtf are you talking about
a lot of anime like using the whole "went to a place and stopped aging but time kept going on in the background"
got that confused with db
rebel js
are you all the way here man
js stop
im assuming drain is inciting this response from you?
i have him blocked for being a 1970s wannabe so i cant see what he's saying
💀
so true bestie
could be added in a .5 all im saying
and much sooner than a full fledged db update
man
nono just the vanguard evo
he aint wrong bro who else r we adding
IDC WHEN IT COMES OUT
vegito zamasu trunks goku black evo zamasu vegeta
and mai as a cool support
epic maybe
so basically js trunks vegito and fused zamasu
perfect?
id perm ban u from the game and dc if i was woner
ok thats actually criminal what
zamasu arc update with no vegito is insane
its like eating a burger
with no meat
ur just eating buns
exactly
the vegan burger things
NOBODY would roll for trunks
we not finna do this again
we need a cell saga update fr
NOOOOOOBOOOOOODY WOULD
trunks is needed in the future trunks saga end of story
sure trunks is important in the story
BUT WHOS USING TRUNKS IN THEIR TEAM
😂😂😂😂😂😂✌️
NOOBODY
is he talking more about how "the main units of the update are important to the story"
ik a few people but ight gng
yep
classic drain
minimum
people LOVE sword users
who else is in the future trunks saga that you can think of
swords are sick, for that reason alone is why i put trunks above gohan
LITERALLY
excluding vegito and zamasu
“KI SWORD@
yea thats a fake sword tho
VEGITO HAS A SWORDD
not as cool
IT DOESNT MATTER
real metal sword >>
TRUNKS IS FODDER
goku black better than trunks tho
excluding vegito and zamasu
that is zamasu
my guy made an entire ki SCYTHE
goku blakc is zamasu
thats the point bro
who tf else are you adding as the 3rd unit except trunks
BEFORE ANYONEEEE
the problem isnt having trunks
its tat
u had trunks
before vegito
ight gng 😭 you got your vegito pack it in
i'll do him first thing when i start future trunks just 4 u
tyo chill out
urgonna get muted
finishing passives tomorrw, gonna head to sleep
they should have done a hit unit for aa
to replace homura
so i can actually win tournaments
🥹
would've been heat honestly
i never managed to get homura in the first place
yuh
after this is android #17 then im done with top units
ass suggestion, never suggest ever again
Bump its peak
And how did we getting more stars on familiars siggestions except of this bruh
Why tho
nah thats my #1 don't mind them
my #1 hater that is
actually no thats rebel
kazuma has been demoted
my top 5 haters (in order)
- rebel
- kazuma
- chuckybird
- mushy
- idk
B
@rough horizon I don't think the images show on mobile very well
Do I need to save it as a lower quality file? I'll try png and lyk how it goes
jpg* mb
yeah med quality jpegs work better
yea that works
3 placement jiren 
broly is 3 placement but just costs a shit ton so you're not getting more than 1 of him in progressive gamemodes
jiren like that 2
just make him one placement
thats long
what
too much eforttttttttttttt
bumpm
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bump
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