Vanguard Familiars should be canceled! (or reworked)

[fervent ginkgo]

refusal to use any new assets or refurbish old ones is already one major sign

[leaden girder]

slop content isnt always bad anyways

especially with how long av takes to update

[jaunty ember]

pin of shame

[modest meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1364611912104677447/1419342763584917606/togif.gif

[fervent ginkgo]

yeah but you said "av should be different so it doesnt just become another slop atd"

[leaden girder]

btw

[neat latch]

"slop content isn't always bad"

do we enjoy eating up anything served on our plate?

[serene shoal]

they can stop making vfamiliars when diavolo gets one

[neat latch]

yeah bro content is content

[leaden girder]

obviously proven by ccu bud 🤦‍♀️

[neat latch]

can AV add tung tung tung sahur familiar

[leaden girder]

4.5 had 100k players and sustained it because the grind was long

[fervent ginkgo]

yum yum yum i love my slop 🐷

[modest meteor]

i feel like the VFs for gojo & sukuna were fine

they couldnt (at the time, now they can) get double evos since DMCA, and they couldnt get new VFX or assets because of that aswell

but for things like tengen, obito, gilg, etc. they should have a little more than just counterattacks and buffing elements, they can make new assets for those and not get nuked

[slim briar]

ccu went down by 40k

[fervent ginkgo]

slop content is good for maintaining ccu not making the experience more enjoyable

[slim briar]

because its just slop

[neat latch]

id send a voice message of me making pig sounds but unfortunately. this sever doesn't have those on.

[modest meteor]

they dont get money from enjoyability

[neat latch]

ccu deadass does NOT matter as much as y'all think it does icl

[fervent ginkgo]

clearly

[leaden girder]

yes it does

[neat latch]

AV'll be doing more than fine even if it drops to fuckin

10-20K

[modest meteor]

im the next shakespeare btw

🥀

[neat latch]

i care more about the game being good than having a lot of players

[serene shoal]

ccu is not even being maintained icl they just released another vfamiliar and the game actually went down by 5k ccu

[modest meteor]

i mean its late for americans

[fervent ginkgo]

which is why im not totally against the ideas of vfamliars since it does bring them the bag

but i will argue and continue to push that vfamiliars are slop

[modest meteor]

oh yeah

def

[neat latch]

the vast majority of quality roblox games have shitty ccu

[modest meteor]

i wish they did cooler stuff

like imagine

[jaunty ember]

I think that was like my first big point, stoping at gojo/sukuna would be perfect, hell not even stopping just pausing for a bit

[leaden girder]

the vast majority of quality roblox games also stop because they dont make money

[neat latch]

all they have to do is just put more of fort into them

[leaden girder]

av isnt a passion project buddy

[jaunty ember]

like why are we putting a vf on obito? tengen? one has a 2nd evo and the other nobody cares about

[modest meteor]

obito gets 10 tails/god tree, but instead of it being an obito familiar (since lowk hes terrible, unless they give him 1000% dmg i dont see him being upper meta), madara comes in and snatches the ten tails as a whole new unit

[jaunty ember]

its such a waste of content and time

[modest meteor]

like that would be cool

but i dont think it will

[dry geyser]

I think they added tengen purely from the amount of people who had him monarch (they 1000% have the data)

[leaden girder]

the ds movie

[serene shoal]

you know the only reason they're adding so many right now is to make up for the content gap that the 9.0 delay is causing? There's no reason to think this is just a regular thing

[dry geyser]

bro no one gaf

about ds movie

and tengen

[neat latch]

which tengen was hardly in

[modest meteor]

what

[dry geyser]

if they were going for ds movie it would he akaza

[modest meteor]

they care about the movie, not tengen

[neat latch]

akaza would've made more sense

[modest meteor]

yeah it shouldve been akaza

[leaden girder]

use the context of the game

[dry geyser]

the ds movie and Tengen don’t have correlation

[leaden girder]

no one rolled on akaza

[opal elbow]

Why is he lying

[jaunty ember]

this is why I say things like "new players suffer, old players get needlessly rewarded"

[leaden girder]

people rolled on tengen

[opal elbow]

No one cared about the movie he says

NO ONE

NO ONE

[jaunty ember]

He right

not a soul

[modest meteor]

it boosts demon slayer's popularity, tengen is a fan favorite character

[fervent ginkgo]

was snoozing during the movie

[jaunty ember]

get it, cause im locked soul

heheha

[opal elbow]

HAHAHHAA

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

[fervent ginkgo]

im so locked for the reze movie

[opal elbow]

HAHAGAHAHAAAHAAHAAHHAA

[serene shoal]

new players already get spoonfed post 7.5 lmao what more do you want

[opal elbow]

UR SO RIGHT

[jaunty ember]

like me? locked?

heheha

[modest meteor]

doesnt matter if hes not in it, people will see it having 600m box office and watch the series to get caught up

[fervent ginkgo]

🥹

[modest meteor]

RAHH

[leaden girder]

what ive been saying

[opal elbow]

WHY AM I AT THE BOTTOM

[modest meteor]

we are ALL seeing the reze movie

[fervent ginkgo]

its gonna be so peak bro

[opal elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358993004982964315/1421604151120498849/togif.gif

[fervent ginkgo]

yes bro yes

[dry geyser]

they just want older players to come back (it worked around 3 of my og friends started playing again and have been catching up)

[opal elbow]

Where's your country at?

[spiral marsh]

Let's give everyone vanguard familiar bro

[jaunty ember]

200 rrs and a mid unit = "spoon feed" you would shit yourself if you knew how many rrs people could farm in a week with no effort

[spiral marsh]

what are u talking abt

[modest meteor]

still waiting for s3 where we finally get makima

[leaden girder]

so you admit new players have it easier LOL

LMAOO

[jaunty ember]

I mean yea but better things could be done for even better results, its sad to see av take the slop route

[dry geyser]

who’s the mid unit?!

[slim briar]

i havent touched chainsaw man since the anime dropped (which was like 2+ years ago 😭 🙏)

[opal elbow]

U gotta return

[jaunty ember]

thats not what I said?

[dry geyser]

aren’t 7.5 units all pretty good across the board?

[serene shoal]

what?! being an older more experienced player with more units means you can collect and efficiently farm resources more easily? who would have thought!?

[leaden girder]

SO YOU ADMIT REROLLS AR EASIER TO GET THAN BEFORE, NOT ONLY THAT ALL THE META UNITS ARE WAY EASIER TO GET

[jaunty ember]

ken isnt allat if im right, like hes good but not the best

[fervent ginkgo]

waiting for quanxi

[serene shoal]

literally how every multiplayer game has worked since the dawn of time bro

[dry geyser]

who?

who tf is Ken

[jaunty ember]

:0 wow ur so smart

[leaden girder]

when does denji die

[modest meteor]

he doesnt

what

[jaunty ember]

other way around actually, was easier to farm rerolls a little while ago due to all the methods, meta units are slightly easier to get but only once you can do the stages/quest for them

man it really is like talking to a wall

[modest meteor]

im just gonna delete that since it does show her getting shot even if theres no blood

[slim briar]

hes the mc 💀

[opal elbow]

Bang

[leaden girder]

i want him dead

[leaden girder]

fyi they nerfed reroll challenges when it was 600 per week during gg

now its the same but even more

[jaunty ember]

wow so you arnt as dumb as you make yourself out to be

[opal elbow]

600 per week is pocket change

[jaunty ember]

how so 🤔

[opal elbow]

Bring it back.

[serene shoal]

rr challenges were significantly worse cause it just came down to "who can ahk the hardest"

[leaden girder]

yeah now the reroll count is even worse!!

[serene shoal]

the new rr obtainments are so much more beginner and manual play friendly

[dry geyser]

literally

mobile players couldn’t compete before😭

[leaden girder]

that would be fine if they also scaled the difficulty

but obv not

[serene shoal]

people who complain about the game still not being beginner friendly might actually be sub room temp iq drooling ipad babies

[dry geyser]

I think it’s still too early to do that rn

[leaden girder]

everyone has monarchs bro

this is NOT less than 3 weeks

[serene shoal]

elemental confluence was a good example of difficult content for worthwhile rewards while not being mandatory imo

[dry geyser]

i think they just want to be on the safe side

[leaden girder]

wouldnt even say that tbh

[dry geyser]

260 rrs 🤤

[leaden girder]

it was alright

[jaunty ember]

I love it when av discordians have no counter argument and nitpick the most irrelevant point possible <3

[serene shoal]

260 PHOENIX SHARDS***

[leaden girder]

but ur still not using ur meta units for most of it

[dry geyser]

260 rerolls
For an hour of playtime was alright?!

[leaden girder]

im just saying 😭

[jaunty ember]

just sayin the sky is blue dosnt help anyone 🤷‍♂️

[leaden girder]

wasnt even arguing anything u just said something objectively wrong

[serene shoal]

i dont mind that, i got use out of old units i barely ever used

[jaunty ember]

Yea, and you nitpicking it does what for you're argument 🤨

[leaden girder]

its not for my argument little guy

[jaunty ember]

"little guy"

[leaden girder]

😡

[jaunty ember]

av discordian run command 3

mindlessly say this!

[leaden girder]

i had to go out of my way to grind them

[dry geyser]

yea it was nice using different units other than just kaguya but at the same time fun to make a team with an element

[dry geyser]

how

only one that was difficult was probably spark ngl

[leaden girder]

lfelt stark and astolfo

[dry geyser]

cause u needed starrk

[leaden girder]

only issue is that water's almost impossible without rimuru

u need insane luck

[dry geyser]

yea

[serene shoal]

i mean wyd if you dont have rimuru in this day and age honestly

[dry geyser]

we need better element units especially with tournament bans

[leaden girder]

he was ass when he came out

and spring portals r boring

[dry geyser]

bro he had like a 10% drop chance 💔

[serene shoal]

he was and still is one of the best traitless units around

[dry geyser]

for a few days

[slim briar]

this is why we needed an akaza familiar

😼

[serene shoal]

no familiar is saving akaza from that poop shaped aoe

[leaden girder]

no the HELL he didnt

[leaden girder]

no he sint

[serene shoal]

it was bugged

[serene shoal]

yes he literally is

[leaden girder]

vsjw, griff, yhwach, king, guts

goblin killer

[slim briar]

escanor

[dry geyser]

he was bugged

[serene shoal]

none of these are designed to be better without monarch?

[leaden girder]

yeah but theyre still better

😭

[serene shoal]

what is actually wrong with this game

[austere steeple]

this is what will bring the game to 200k ccu

[serene shoal]

1 bug gets fixed and 50 more follow

[leaden girder]

how olong does broly domain last

[dry geyser]

15 wave

[serene shoal]

if you dont care enough to get meta units and miss out on them then stuff like elemental confluence probably isn't made with you in mind

[leaden girder]

rimuru wasnt meta when he dropped bro

[dry geyser]

he was

[leaden girder]

traitless meta MAYBE

[serene shoal]

💔

[leaden girder]

HUGE maybe

[serene shoal]

this isnt als

[dry geyser]

I used him a lot in boss rushes

[serene shoal]

nearly all units have some niche meta usage

[leaden girder]

bro

WHAT NICHE DOES RIMURU FILL

HE IS A DPS

[serene shoal]

traitless water dps

lol

[leaden girder]

so 1 small niche from elemental

[serene shoal]

do you know what niche means???

[dry geyser]

it did

tournaments

I used him and got #1st

[serene shoal]

all im hearing is that you saw a unit that didnt have big dmg number, wasnt op with monarch and didnt think ahead about future content so you didnt bother getting it

[leaden girder]

wow maybe because hes useless

for what was currently in the game

[serene shoal]

he was used in tournaments

solid boss rush unit

[leaden girder]

from what i can tell hes eben used in 3

[serene shoal]

ok

and?

[leaden girder]

basically useless

ur saying he was meta

he wasnt

[serene shoal]

oh brother

[dry geyser]

not having rimuru just a skill issue

[serene shoal]

exactly

[dry geyser]

if u grinded for kaguya u just passively got him

😭

[leaden girder]

i know fs im better than both of u

[serene shoal]

hes not even an old enough unit to be complaining about him being unobtainable

[leaden girder]

when was i complaining

[slim briar]

i had 100 winter portal clears and didnt get ragna

[leaden girder]

i did it without rimuru

[dry geyser]

what this gotta do with anything ☠️

[slim briar]

took over 100 spring portals for rimuru

[serene shoal]

honestly if you really want to get that slightly higher score on water just go beg someone to host rimuru portals for you

they still exist

[dry geyser]

true he’s still technically obtainable

[dry geyser]

ts all on you☠️☠️

[leaden girder]

we still better than u bud

[austere steeple]

cant you beat it w weather report + uryu

[leaden girder]

yes

[serene shoal]

100 portals is really nothing if we're being honest

[serene shoal]

yea just lower score

[leaden girder]

u can get 2k still just needs luck

[serene shoal]

oh

so rimuru isnt even required

[leaden girder]

its almost like thats what i said

[serene shoal]

complaining about a unit thats not even required btw

[leaden girder]

WHO is complaining

[dry geyser]

w?!

[serene shoal]

[leaden girder]

all i said was that it was annoying but its still beatable

😭

[modest meteor]

snowflake

this was made a long time ago

[karmic grove]

Akaza doesnt need/deserve a vanguard fam

[modest meteor]

main villain of the new demon slayer movie and is one of the worst units in the entire game

he fits the category perfectly

[karmic grove]

nope

Horrible aoe

He was a trash unit to begin

[modest meteor]

yeah thats why he needs a familiar

🥀

[serene shoal]

mid and poorly made passives i fear

[karmic grove]

Familiars don’t change aoe what????

[modest meteor]

what would you change about it

[serene shoal]

i'll show you a truly great vanguard familiar

[austere steeple]

akaza kinda needs it imo

[karmic grove]

To defend him it’s not like obitos are interesting

[modest meteor]

it was incredibly old when sukuna + gojo were the only ones made, the prequisite i had was that they'd do more creative passives, considering gojo + sukuna (at the time) couldnt get new VFX because of the dmca

now i know thats not the case 🥀

[karmic grove]

Gojo vanguard fam was done perfectly I wouldn’t change anything about it

[white osprey]

Bruh, vanguard unit still better than unobtainable unit. That vote familiar is for unobtainable unit (gilga) and obtainable unit (obito). And u still complaint

[karmic grove]

Can’t say the same about everyone else tho

[modest meteor]

yeah, only issue is that it wasnt great

i think it was really balanced tho and fun

sukuna's was really broken

[serene shoal]

it was still low on the high meta tier which is a huge jump for a unit that fell off many updates ago

it was like

good without taking the spotlight away from the main units of the update

then sukuna came out

[modest meteor]

yeah thats where they should be with VFs, i dont know why sukuna was so high up, if it was a mistake sure, but then they made tengen on the same level as vsjw

like what

sukuna i can understand since he was supposed to get a vanguard, so he shouldve been that good regardless

but tengen

[serene shoal]

yea sukuna just changed the game completely

[modest meteor]

🥀

[serene shoal]

and tengen

[fervent ginkgo]

🤫

[modest meteor]

hello 🥀

[serene shoal]

why is this guy doing nearly 200k full aoe dps with support and debuff capabilities

[karmic grove]

Agreed

[serene shoal]

clay

[fervent ginkgo]

🤤

[slim briar]

enkidu is a boy????

[serene shoal]

enkidu is a clay

[karmic grove]

Looks feminine enough

[fervent ginkgo]

yeah but like hes in a females body

[karmic grove]

so it’s feminine

[fervent ginkgo]

like rimuru type shit

boy on the inside girl outside

or hes genderless

i don remember

[serene shoal]

isnt he genderless physically

[fervent ginkgo]

perhaps

[serene shoal]

like modelled after a goddess but has none of the "parts" cause he's just clay

or smth

[slim briar]

interesting

[fervent ginkgo]

right

[slim briar]

hes the perfect example of a unit needing a vanguard familiar

[karmic grove]

No

[slim briar]

yes

[karmic grove]

Any unit that I have monarch is a perfect example

lil bro

[slim briar]

💀

[serene shoal]

true

diavolo familiar asap

[opal elbow]

FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT I GOT IDLE POSES ADDED TO AV

[austere steeple]

he should get a evo tbh

[opal elbow]

HAHAHAHA

[serene shoal]

wat

[opal elbow]

MY OPINION MEANS EVERYTHING

[jaunty ember]

obito is not unobtainable what are we on 🥀 one of the biggest issues i have is unobtainable units getting them so what are you even trying to prove

[opal elbow]

EVERYTHING

[karmic grove]

And we all have monarch gogeta ssj4?

[jaunty ember]

I swear mfs just be sayin shit

[slim briar]

he has nothing to evolve into

[opal elbow]

WHAT

WHAT

WHAT

[serene shoal]

bro havin a sugar rush 🥀

[opal elbow]

OBITO HAS NOTHING TO EVO INTO?

[fervent ginkgo]

there talking about akaza

[slim briar]

?

[fervent ginkgo]

silly

[slim briar]

no one said that

[austere steeple]

infinity castle arc?

[slim briar]

delulu

[dry geyser]

juubi

[opal elbow]

Yeah I'm out for some sleep

I apologize

[slim briar]

ur good lol

[slim briar]

nothings different about him

[serene shoal]

just add trading and people will stop complaining about limited units getting vfs tbh

[slim briar]

i could agree on a rework maybe (but we're not getting those)

[narrow kite]

ngl 600 free rrs up for grabs I'm not complaining but vfs should be changed

[fervent ginkgo]

Akaza --> akaza (angry)

[karmic grove]

Who’s complaining about limited units getting vfs EVERYONE has Gilgamesh

[fervent ginkgo]

clearly

[white osprey]

BRUH. CANT READ??? I SAID OBTAINABLE OBITO. WE HAVE VF FOR UNOBTAINABLE UNIT AND OBTAINABLE. THATS WHY THIS POST IS SO DUMB

[dry geyser]

Ah yes obito the burn unit who didn’t use a single fire jutsu the entire war arc

[narrow kite]

I'm not getting gilga 's until ppl discover what it even does

[slim briar]

akaza (i miss my wife)

[karmic grove]

we all agree tho the way u obtain vfams are super slop

[narrow kite]

i regret unshinyfying my shiny obito

[karmic grove]

and that devs js slap them into the game when they run out of content

[narrow kite]

idk why I did that

[fervent ginkgo]

extremely

[slim briar]

worst decision ever

[narrow kite]

this is fake I think

[karmic grove]

everyone should listen to this smart guy

[fervent ginkgo]

who is believing this

[narrow kite]

genuinely

[karmic grove]

incredibly fake

[austere steeple]

to players yes but to devs its a good method

[serene shoal]

[karmic grove]

gilgameshs vanguard familar isnt in the game yet

[slim briar]

i remember spending 50k gems just going for his shiny back on release

[karmic grove]

u cant wish it from shenron

and it isnt in the data mines

[narrow kite]

dude I had monarch sukuna and felt like I didn't need it

[karmic grove]

valk prolly hasnt even come up with the familar passives yet

[narrow kite]

I started playing the game a lot around winter upd

[karmic grove]

new gen 😭

[narrow kite]

I played before then

[fervent ginkgo]

its probably not even in the game until the theortical obtainment date

[narrow kite]

just much less

I got solar sjw on release

[fervent ginkgo]

can't datamine anything if theres nothing to datamine

[karmic grove]

yeah cus they dont want ppl data mining the familars like every other time lol

[narrow kite]

I evo'd him and dipped cuz I didn't enjoy the game

[serene shoal]

if the obtainment method wasn't just "clear 25 stages with X unit" 5 times it wouldn't be slop imo

[narrow kite]

why don't they just tell us the stats

[fervent ginkgo]

this time we hack valks pc

and find the doc hes writing on

clearly

[karmic grove]

i just said that???????????

[narrow kite]

that way I can actually decide what td

[serene shoal]

did you

[narrow kite]

I might just cash out my coins for phoenix shards I have plenty of rrs already

[karmic grove]

[slim briar]

im not stopping on those rrs until i get monarch broly

[karmic grove]

depends what trait u have on gilga

[slim briar]

then ill have 5 monarch vanguards 🤑

[narrow kite]

dude I have solar I genuinely wouldn't go for it unless the familiar is some busted junk

the. I'd have to get monarch gilga

[karmic grove]

i WILL get him monarch

[serene shoal]

i'm like 30 rrs away from pity on gil so im getting that familiar regardless

[narrow kite]

less than 50 rrs for him

[karmic grove]

oh yeah

brace yourself

[serene shoal]

100rrs for me ✌️

[narrow kite]

there's like a curse I have on av

every 4 monarchs I have to hit pitt

[narrow kite]

dude 😂

[karmic grove]

best unit in the game

[narrow kite]

yea cuz re zero goated

[karmic grove]

i even locked him 6 times so i dont accidentally delete him

[narrow kite]

I love not watching a show and posting the same 2 panels looped

as an animation

[serene shoal]

same but every 2 monarchs

[narrow kite]

stairs have done irreparable dmg to the re zero fanbase

[serene shoal]

walking up stairs

[narrow kite]

yes

[serene shoal]

aura monster

[narrow kite]

I hit pity for VERGIL out of all units

back when pity was 2.5k

[karmic grove]

why would u roll on v ergil

actually nvm

[serene shoal]

i got vergil in 70 rrs or something

[karmic grove]

he was best spark for like 7 updates

[narrow kite]

yea

also cuz I had esdeath and I refused to believe she fell off

I would use her ywach and vergil

[serene shoal]

ssj4 gogeta, OLD pity
yhwach, pity
skull knight, pity
gilgamesh, pity coming up

[narrow kite]

esmid

[serene shoal]

shes lowke tuff

[karmic grove]

shut up

[narrow kite]

she's a decent support cuz of timestop

[karmic grove]

hes the goat

[karmic grove]

no other unit has timestop + freeze

[slim briar]

its funny that monarch literally makes her worse lol

[narrow kite]

i might get monarch on tengen purely cuz of sukuna

[narrow kite]

true I use solar on her so she has more range

[serene shoal]

time stop, freeze, elemental buff and affection is op support tbh

[narrow kite]

one of the only units where solar is a good trait

[karmic grove]

true

[serene shoal]

thanks im gonna roll on her now

[narrow kite]

vergil esdeath timestop was a demon combo

[serene shoal]

[narrow kite]

he would deal bonus dmg followup and all the other bs

and I had ywach too

[jaunty ember]

the fact we did one for an unobtainable in the first place is an issue, if u cant understand why just stop speaking atp

[karmic grove]

why dont u have a trait on her

shes been here since 3.5

[narrow kite]

kaguya was my quickest monarch

[serene shoal]

i have deadeye

[narrow kite]

2 tapped

[finite comet]

esdeath is mid nowadays fam

[karmic grove]

horrible

[serene shoal]

its just useless on her

[karmic grove]

dont even roll on her atp

too late

[serene shoal]

no

im going for monarch

too late

[karmic grove]

[narrow kite]

is tengen worth getting monarch on if I have sukuna

[finite comet]

if esdeath had mahokorada on placement she would be meta

[narrow kite]

i want a good DPS unit while also having more sukuna glaze

[finite comet]

Yes

Very worth

[narrow kite]

alr

u should be allowed to at least view vf stats bro

gilga is just a mystery

[finite comet]

yea

[narrow kite]

for all we know he could be new top 1

[white osprey]

Im not see the issue. U can still get the familiar and use for it trading value. Both unit and familiar have values for trading.

[narrow kite]

or utter junk like gojo

[finite comet]

ion know why he hasn't leaked

[narrow kite]

gojo fell off after a day lmao

[jaunty ember]

we dont know that bro

[finite comet]

Ion think Gilgamesh will be too crazy

[narrow kite]

cuz he's unov

[finite comet]

His familiar needs to be crazy op

His passives are really bad

[narrow kite]

passives are ok he takes too long to ramp up

[finite comet]

Best thing he does is ignore 50 percent damage reduction

[narrow kite]

for the time he was also worse than saber tho

[serene shoal]

hopefully they do something with his nuke

[narrow kite]

enuma eilish is now mapwide

[white osprey]

Wdym?? Familiar will tradeable. Worst suggestion

[finite comet]

I can see them making him add a debuff like rupture

[karmic grove]

add gogeta ssj4 vanguard fam btw

js wanna make that clear

[jaunty ember]

unobtainable familiars will be tradable, you are aware the VFs are permanent events right?

they wont have ANY trading value

mfs just sayin shit

[narrow kite]

rupture should be added very carefully

[karmic grove]

will the vfams be tradable?

i didnt know that tbh

[finite comet]

trading just kinda lame to me

[white osprey]

For Limited VF and other familiar will.

[serene shoal]

AND diavolo

[jaunty ember]

you DONT KNOW THAT

[karmic grove]

diavolo goated support in inf

he doesnt need it

[jaunty ember]

this guy is just making shit up bro

[narrow kite]

sukuna + tengen is actually an insane combo

[serene shoal]

he needs it more than gogeta

stop the agenda at once

[finite comet]

I guess I'm for not liking trading?? 😭

[karmic grove]

more bugs today, can i please enter afk chamber?

[narrow kite]

u get the scorch buff and sukuna gets 60% bonus

[finite comet]

prolly best in game

[austere steeple]

dw thats just the av community

[finite comet]

realistically

[narrow kite]

nah broly + guts is probably better

[serene shoal]

i dont like it either tbh but the game needs it

[white osprey]

Dev said it in stage. This suggestion is no point.

[finite comet]

well yea

[serene shoal]

at least it wont be like aa where units are hyper rare high value

[finite comet]

kinda put themselves in a ditch

[narrow kite]

u give guts 100% crit rate and broly is broly

[finite comet]

can't just make kaguya unob bro 😭 😭

[glad tinsel]

Literally man

[serene shoal]

because everything in this game is too easy to get or just duped to infinity

[jaunty ember]

like talking to a brick wall 🥀

[karmic grove]

sadly there are like barely any actually valuable units

only lb broly will have value

and shiny subaru

[finite comet]

not in cost

[austere steeple]

i wonder how much a perfect birb would be

[narrow kite]

yea true

[serene shoal]

and if we're being honest no matter how much bug testing gets done there's gonna be dupe bugs and everything will be worthless anyway

[narrow kite]

tengen is like 50k full aoe

with decent dps

[glad tinsel]

Probably not high in demand cuz both their cosmetic and usage sucks now

[finite comet]

obviously broly with full unbound is way better

[serene shoal]

2 bobux

[karmic grove]

depends on how rich the buyer is

[finite comet]

my monarch tengen does like 170k DPS

[austere steeple]

lb broly was duped to shit the most vauble unit would probably be shiny saiko- idk tho

[narrow kite]

is alucard worth using over other dmg options if I have broly

[karmic grove]

trust me he does more

[finite comet]

No

Never

[white osprey]

Birb with op stats will be more valuable than unobtainable unit. Same as if some VF become limited then will be tradeable. This dumb just crying because unobtainable unit got VF

[karmic grove]

not visually

[serene shoal]

i dont even think thats gonna be the case cause of the extra portals people got and i heard there was a dupe bug back then too

[narrow kite]

oh so my monarch alucard is just over

nice

yeah I'm getting monarch tengen

[finite comet]

ion know I don't really got ascensions

[karmic grove]

yeah there are so many lb brolys duped and they gave 2 subaru portals to some ppl

[narrow kite]

alucard familiar

please

[karmic grove]

please get ascensions on your mythic monarch what are we doing 😭

[karmic grove]

dont need it

[finite comet]

update 0 had many dupes

[jaunty ember]

for the 3rd time only unobtainable things will be tradable, this means vfs that are perm wont be, this includes birb as hes not going away, you brick

[karmic grove]

alocard doesnt need a vanguard familar

[finite comet]

bro that spider stage is genuine cancer 😭 😭

[karmic grove]

maybe a tiny dmg boost

[karmic grove]

js tiny task

[narrow kite]

go afk it

[leaden girder]

birb will be tradable

[karmic grove]

wtih escanor?

[jaunty ember]

people just be saying shit atp 🥀

[narrow kite]

literally any unit past the bleach update can solo it

[leaden girder]

they said it themselves

it also makes sense

[jaunty ember]

when

[karmic grove]

birb will 100% be tradable no way you dont think that 😭

[jaunty ember]

it dosnt make sense 🥀

[karmic grove]

ik son

some things in life dont make sense

[austere steeple]

its confirmed- familiars are going to be tradable idk about vfs tho

[karmic grove]

js accept it

[serene shoal]

they already directly confirmed all familiars will be tradable????

[leaden girder]

how doesnt it make sense

birbs will be the trading currency

??

[karmic grove]

hes just lost in life

leave bro alone

[leaden girder]

0 units are gonna be valuable, birbs will be

[jaunty ember]

why would an obtainable thing be tradebale when they said only unobtainable things would be

[serene shoal]

the only exception to that would be permanent vanguard familiars since they were added after they confirmed familiars would be tradable

[karmic grove]

excluding familars gang

[leaden girder]

they specific units

they specifically said units for that

[serene shoal]

familiars are literally the first thing they confirmed that would be tradable lmfao what are you saying

[jaunty ember]

yes, the unobtainable ones

[karmic grove]

hey why are all my units locked

like quadriple locked

[leaden girder]

btw they said only unobtainable units will be tradable before familiars came out

[serene shoal]

why do you think grinding for familiars with good stats is so much more tedious and hard than everything else in the game

[jaunty ember]

when/where was this stated bro 🥀

[narrow kite]

familiar grinding is like the trait farming of aut

[leaden girder]

they literally said on the stage they wont add familiar pity because birbs are tradable

[serene shoal]

1 bug is fixed, 3 more take its place

[leaden girder]

moron

[narrow kite]

speaking of which aut is so rubbish now

[karmic grove]

this mini update did more bad than good

[jaunty ember]

🤓 ☝️ you didnt hear someone say something on a stage that happened, ur a moron

[narrow kite]

Goku was hinted when I was in 7th grade and I'm Abt to go into college

[leaden girder]

what bugs r there still

[jaunty ember]

like holy shit the density on this guy

[karmic grove]

u cant enter afk chamber (that might js be me)

[slim briar]

always been rubbish

[karmic grove]

every units are locked

[slim briar]

two complete reworks of the game and its still mid

[karmic grove]

my game freezes when i open my inventory

[narrow kite]

ok but it was at least fun pre combat rework

now it's just sell it soul simulator

[karmic grove]

I CANT ENTER THE FUCKING RIFT

why did they only make this in new servers omfg

[narrow kite]

rifts are bugged lol

[leaden girder]

join a new server dumbahh

[karmic grove]

read 1 pixel below that text bub

[serene shoal]

chatgpt c*de

[leaden girder]

they cant force new servers unless they restart all of them

[white osprey]

Birb is confirm to be tradeable. Its like talking to the wall. Never listen

[jaunty ember]

me when I say shit with no proof or reasoning

its funny how mfs like you come into threads then talk about the most offtopic shit because you dont have any real reasons on why you dislike it

[serene shoal]

why is the guy who doesnt even know familiars will be tradable making a suggestion on familiars

[austere steeple]

it was stated in the 8.0 stage

[leaden girder]

THEY SAID IT ON STAGE

[serene shoal]

remove this post!

[jaunty ember]

you just start shit for attention ,3

[karmic grove]

restart all of them its a pretty bad bug

[jaunty ember]

I already responded to this, I didnt hear it, thats not me saying it never happened

[karmic grove]

who cares about lobbies being restarted

[fervent ginkgo]

All familiars will be tradable

Oh

[karmic grove]

nah ur right

[jaunty ember]

3rd time ive had to respond to ts 🥀

[karmic grove]

every familar WILL be tradable

[karmic grove]

every familar WILL be tradable

every familar WILL be tradable

every familar WILL be tradable

[fervent ginkgo]

I just saw a random msg cuz i aint reading allat and responded

[jaunty ember]

do me a favor and read who im responding

[fervent ginkgo]

😭

[white osprey]

@sweet jetty lock/remove this post

[serene shoal]

stop bro hes going to have a panic attack

[fervent ginkgo]

Why

Post is fine

Brings some valid points up

[karmic grove]

before its locked give gogeta ssj4 a vanguard fam

[austere steeple]

Akaza*

[serene shoal]

ignore this guy and give diavlo a vfam instead

[jaunty ember]

interesting choice to ping a moderator intstead of trying to make a counter point

[leaden girder]

ppl wouldnt be mad if it was their favorite character getting it instead of gilgamesh

[karmic grove]

js say thats your only monarch its fine

[leaden girder]

cope all the way

😭

[karmic grove]

its the losers who dont have gogeta

when he was available for 7 months

[white osprey]

Not debate with a rock

[karmic grove]

thats what pisses me off 😭

[austere steeple]

thats a unit i dont have monarch on😭 his never touched anything outside absolute shit so i want him to be good for atleast once in his life

[jaunty ember]

unique way of saying "I have no counter point"

[karmic grove]

fake btw you idiot

[serene shoal]

obviously real? incompetent drone

[leaden girder]

im crine bro its a joke

[karmic grove]

omfg

[fervent ginkgo]

Would have NEVER guessed

[karmic grove]

i didnt read it

[leaden girder]

LOL

[karmic grove]

LOL