#Regarding Vanguard Familiars
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when???
and it ended with another result because of the drama
the bp poll
depends on the unit
bp are diff because people spent money on those
but not gilgamesh
i literally have 3 in my inventory rotting
they specify only the units excluding shiny
honestly fair point
2 from the glitch and an inactive babylon key
I had an extra key then they took it away 😞
gogeta rerun to make sure he is more worthless than yuta in als 🔥
whatever you hate it or not. you can't deny trading bring a close but loyal group of people
to its day people still trade in aa and ad
trust me I used to be a hardcore trader back in astd
Foo stacks yk
also trading is already something to come no matter what people think
there is a reason why birb won't have pity
I haven't even grinded a single birb lol
I hate that dumb stage
get one
also guys you will benefit of trading if gilgamesh or anyone doesn't get a rerun 
im already up there
gilgamesh has no value so it doesnt matter
it rlly wont
it rlly will
giselle will have infinitely more value
giselle moment
i better not see you ask for overpays for your gilga 🗣️
im gonna trade my shiny julias actually
10k bundle 🤑
ew
which one
ill give u that when I get paid
10k bundle and a kidney for my shiny julias
what abt for diavolo
i dont have diavolo 💔
everyone will
"all bundles, your soul, your entire vanguards inventory, for my shiny monarch diavolo"
🙏
glad people are realizing the issues with VFamiliars
i was the d1 VFamiliar hater
🙏
they just need to do them less often and have them for units that have no chance of evolving
no
they can keep doing it
bias
and speaking of evolving they should stop making them "special" unless its a vanguard evolution
remove all then give them ALL to diavolo
diavolo will be top 1 support and dps
ts is me being bias
mark my words
oh my damn 2k messages
It was one with 5k
they should make mythic into secret evolutions
no reason not to
it was a lot of arguing
debatable
🗣️ vs
🚬
it just creates more possibility for units and making old ones viable once again without doing the lazy route of vanguard familiars
we still need that naruto update
but the only way theyre gonna come back is if theyre vanguard evolutions
or familiars
which is ass
why were there 200 messages when i was gone
no we dont
yes we do
i promise we dont
we do
Can't wait for vanguard naruto🗣️
we need that secret obito, that secret naruto, that secret sasuke
me and drain has come to a conclusion
we don’t but i agree with what you said before ts
its SO tired doing upds fully based on the past
never drop a slopruto update
its not even the fact that its sup imo
its the fact that u have to bother and go evo old units who were just key and remote fodder
theyve been getting sidelined for no reason despite being a big 3 lol
naruto units mid on release
the bp units were mid
one piece
all we got is kaguya
It has kizaru
one piece has a worldlines unit
good enough
(katakuri)
i blame the other games on the platform for this
A
but yes it needs recognition too
deidara was somewhat useable for a really short period of time in tourneys
bumffy
im gonna make a suggestion about this rn 😼
peak is incoming chat
eh
hourly rift 2.0
again nothings wrong with asking for that
say the schizo who think is aa fault that astdx is shit
💀
placement animation for luffy vanguard
quite literally yes
most of his kit is literally useless atm
We dont need a vanguard familiar for every unit
w bait
i don't remember aa balancing their game around unique, making the game experience a annoying shit with 40 seconds stun or forcing the player to always play with others
we all remember the shit that was the summer event
summons are useless so theres never a reason to max him out, bleed is useless because the best unit in the game has rupture
and most of us still liked it
all that grind for the dogshit of crocodile
fuck no
most cost efficient unit itg btw
HALF of us did
newsman is infinitely more cost efficient
legit if there was a value chart for units alucard would be top 3
i was talking abt aa
oh
dependent on units
astdx devs saying that the game won't be balanced around all stars was the biggest lie ever
thats just cuz they have shit balancers
game is buns anwyays
legit everytime they release a new mode its always impossible😭
i had fun doing the jojo upd with the boss deleting units
or its incredibly easy
is their way of making the game difficult still making units get stunned
and 5 paths
frieza boss doing deleting and stunning your units was enough for most people
yea that should never be in a td game
You don’t even get money back from it
any
wdym isnt gilgamesh boss so fun
it took the devs 1 day to fix jotaro evo quest
i love redoing the wl stage until he targets the right unit
Does it tell you what unit get’s targeted I never bothered looking
no its completely random as far as i can tell
and golden castle is double pathed
awful map
At least it looks cool ig
better than gg legend stages
I lowkey want more multi path map
why the fuck the spawn points are random after 1 retry
We don’t talk about GG map
Everytime I do gg map the enemies never spawn from the right anymore
Thanks for that info, I still trying to solo that shit
I need them to stop spawning over there just so I can solo it
Oh yea
Who cares
Ngl I gave up on that map
Like I'm not grabbing tengen coz I aint got monarch
Shit gonna happen on the limited too
I thought simon could counter it since you control his mecha
but when he gets deleted he stops working
is funny how both av and astdx diavolos come from annoying as hell stuffs
did you scroll all the way up just to ping me 😭
Yet diavolo on av was a cosmetic and was ass
My last message was up there so it started me there
fair enough
and astdx diavolo was the most annoying grind ever if you didn't had a full team of all stars or decent people
also for some reason
they made the premium star pass have different units
than the f2p one
lol
thats how it was in og astd
but in og you could get premium f2p
old astd had that
I just... I just said that
i remember people leaving when the minions stunned their units every second
because is fun to deal with small enemies with stun mechanics
idk astd fixed the deleting and infinite stuns but they still got work
the damage is already done
Astdx in my eyes is just them saying "astd makes no money let's just gachafy everything and remove all the f2p"
Im surprised the community didnt riot til they added star passes into summons
the most fun experience in thr jojo upd was people making theories of why star platinum is everywhere
i remember people saying that star platinum was always thr boss and diavolo was just a peom
wdym???
arent you supposed to just buy one sword and thats all
like one for each dps
He uses foo
yeah
i have a mediocre foo too
on him
wait a sec
are you supposed to like
use every sword on a unit and like foo stacks on it?
Foo buffs more than intended
but
Instas of just giving a 12% buff as a example it straight up give 2x the buff
still
what the hell
my foo is kinda ass
9%
cuz i failed the corruption lol
but i think it works in any foo
right?
familiar
no
yeah def, VFs are fine for units like Gojo or Sukuna who (at the time, now they can) couldnt get Double Evolutions, so the only way to make them good again was vanguard familiars, but why are units like Obito getting them
i feel like the biggest issue though is, like you sort of mentioned, is that units who can get double evolutions, shouldnt get them, over units who really cant get double evos
great example of this is Cha Hae In (bias i know), she doesnt really get a new form ever, and the only real powerboost she gets is through training & late late late manwha where she gets a massive one
@hybrid mortar cooked again
No gilga familiar no rerun is a great idea! I dont have monarch gilgamesh btw def dont
lovely ❤️
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmm......
bump
holy glaze
He ain't lying tho
i did tho
you didn't
i did
then you cook burned food
a masterpiece in changing humanity for the better
i cook food with an unquantifiable longevity
longevity that start when it reach the expired date
longevity so long the word longevity isn't enough to describe it
it can never expire
Someone link the top
ETS GOOO
I have such a way with words don't i
content slop 
alucard still meta
rrs and pheonix shards 
escanor familiar next upd
Yhwach familiar tomorrow
yall love ruining rr methods
they easily could’ve put the rerolls into other modes.
game's slowly turning into ALS with how generous they're getting with handing out RRs
before events were added i had a single monarch that i got in the game's release, ever since events i've obtained 4 monarchs ☠️
the amount of RRs being handed out might trivialize the game even more so than it's been trivialized since they're drifting away from difficult content due to a bitchy community who loves brainless gameplay
yea will im going to pity for gilgamesh so i think they have to give more rrs actually
what does the gilg familiar even do
they should tell u what the passives do at least
for gojo and sukuna familiar they showed it off first
weird that they didnt do that for tengen and gil
hype ig
We saw tengens early aswell
Only gils we havent seen
it cant be selected on nornesh quest reward no?
nah
i saw a ss of some1 leaking it but it got deleted so ig it was somewhat correct
all u need to know is that hes prolly the best dmg outputter in the game now
why are you so mad lol
if u got a problem with the way it's going, you can talk about it in the next stage
it's wtv man always whining
i'm just not satisfied with the state the game's going in particularly regarding difficulty & VFamiliars
nvm i forgot you're mushy
thanks gilgamid 
Tough it out
I pitied 4 times in a row
Almost lost my damn mind
Gogeta only took 5 rrs tho
Euphoric

i hit old pity on vanguard gogeta lol
2.5k rrs for a unit thats mid now 
hes lowke tuff!?
I see that 5x multi
Dw i did it for cid and gojo and like 3 or 4 other towers were 2kish
But hey whatever now all I gotta buy are bundles for all the monarchs I want
Gilgamesh didn't needa vanguard familiar it does nothing for him because his old passives was horrible to begin with. What he needed was a second evo because enuma elish was also hot garbage.
Thats what they said about sukuna too
Gilgamesh wasnt even as bad as sukuna was
did they close the other suggestion
Just pack it up bro 
Some hater pinged a mod, and locked got banned for 7 days cuz he was joking with me
😭
he got perm banned i thought
No just a 7 day ban
Who got banned
☠️
Lockedsoul, 7 days
Me and him were talking and fucking around and he said something along the lines of “im [deaththreat] you” to me and mods smited him
Discord is never that deep to the point you gotta blow someone’s shi smooth off
🤦♂️
we were literally fucking with eachother 😭 he says it all the time outside the server
you take that back NOW
It’s Ok he convinced u it’s okay to talk like that
ur the victim
we aren't real
a hater pinged his papa (a moderator) to shut the thread down for no reason
did the guy also got banned?
or did he leave
he seems not to be a member anymore
banned for very obviously joking abt killing miso 
for a whole week
🥀
that was unexpected
the fate suggestion guy
What other suggestion
#1421030605638078514
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Gilgamesh familiar kinda bad ngl
"Kinda" ts useless
i'd be damned if it wasn't 😭 no need for an unobtainable to be top 2 holy units
every meta holy unit is unobtainable bud what difference would it make😭
Exactly why it's stupid
God forbid you're relatively new and try to do elemental confluence
wait hollon
GOODNESS GRACIOUS
NOT ONE GOOD HOLY UNIT IS OBTAINABLE
the problem is there are 2 1/2 non limited holy units, making gilgamesh strong wouldnt be a problem, no meta holy is
yea
its really bad
still, why are we buffing unobtainable units
idk why he was limited in the first place, or why they didnt rerun even tho they said they would
DEADASS
"We're buffing him and we're not gonna rerun because we hate you guys"
"You can get the rrs by using fate units tho"
??????
yea its so wierd they could have made him good if they reran him to
No idea what the sentiment against rerunning is anyway
I saw a suggestion a while back by @shrewd pendant and they suggested to just give a skin to the original owners and lock shinies for new copies of gilgamesh
they were fine with it at first too idk what made them switch
yea that would be a much better idea
it would keep the (little) trade value too
Complaining about this specifically is weird when these two are popular as hell, And Dante & Vergil is in the game including Guilty Gear shit
they both have animes
"popular as hell" doesn't matter, you could justify adding freddy fazbear to the game with that
I dont mind hollow knight tbh hes looking like a cool unit
But i can understand why some ppl dont like it
dev picks yet we have 2 confirmed anime characters out of all the devs that participated
Guilty Gear anime didnt come out till after the update, Dante and Vergils appearance is SPECFICALLY there DMC5 appearance so that logic doesnt apply.
in the anime game btw 😭
Kinda true
It is fully dmc5 vergil and dante
Considering theyre sdt
Yep
gg had an anime when av updated
even if it is dmc5, they didn't really have much to work off of from the anime
Did people even like the show
so take that with a grain of salt
also the update released right after the anime was announced or being made or whatever
its intentionally riding off of the anime's hype
Sin DT was not in the anime thats purely a game thing LOL, Same with literally any Vergil related shit he got 2 minutes of screentime in the anime so its just specfically from the game.
Everything they do is from the games lowkey
I dont think the anime had a single attack they do ingame
Still, update released right after the anime was announced. Its clear they were trying to ride off of that so its still "based off the anime"
Judgement Cut End being the most recognized move from the game lmao
What else were they going to do with Dante and Vergil's kit anyway? Theres like no source material from the anime
...That's my entire point my guy it wasnt riding the anime hype its purely game related LOL, Like sure it released around the same time but DMC5 and the anime are vastly different
It was though? They were riding off of the anime by adding stuff from the same source material
Besides the point anyway what about hollow knight and doom slayer
DMC5 is more recognizeable then the anime anyway, Especially after its..interesting story decisions and the director slandering DMC as a whole but thats another thing
Yeah, you can still argue it technically has an anime though. Thats their exception as well as Guilty Gear's
Hollow Knight you can argue its off Silksong hype but its not even Hornet whos the character in Silksong, Doom the Dark Ages hype is LONG GONE LOL
Guarantee its not even that specific doomslayer either its the one from Eternal
Honestly bro 😭
Yeah, Hornet has more focus on her rn
becoming irrelevant in a few months tho mark my words
🙏
I don't see the issue with videogame characters being added in general, It just gives us alot more in the long run and if people want more of something different then its there as a medium to take from, This game is hardly just Anime at this point with MANHWA and other shit in the game
They don’t like it since it’s called a anime td in the first place
So they only want see anime characters be added
The issue is that this is an anime game and they brand themselves as such
Manwhas can be animated too, don't see your point
Game characters being added ruins the perception of the game being for anime characters when the devs just insert whatever they think is a cool game at the time into an update as opposed to other highly requested characters that actually align with the theme they promote their game with
I think thats more boring then not having abit of variety at least personally, I think Anime Vanguards is just beyond that point lmao, Dante and Vergil in AV for me was peak hype and i still use them to this day in modes where i can
They have said for awhile anni is gonna be a developer picks and we already got that form of request via the community poll with Dio OH winning, Do not see your point there
There is and was community engagement on what the community wanted added
For a unit for anni, Everything else is just for fun
I'd rather the devs be creative with units they actually want to do, then the anime of the update they picked, You can feel that with some updates lol
So invincible can get added when he don’t have a official anime but adding other video game characters is a problem?
Them picking their own characters could've just as easily been anime characters that other people wanted/weren't originally planned for the game. It would've both aligned with the theme of the "anime" game theme and brought stuff more people would've wanted. By your logic we could've just as easily seen a seriously made freddy fazbear unit for anni
You have no proof though
You don’t know who they’re adding yet
wait a sec
good point actually
he has an animated series, like rwby
fair play
We know like three two of which being a Game one being anime, Guarantee that anime is still gonna have more regardless
That’s not a official anime
LOL
Okay but it’s literally not a official one
That’s the point
considering solo levelling isn't actually an anime its not a stretch to assume it broadens to "animated series"
invincible was also just massively popular
i think the biggest problem is that these dev units will probably be meta
You guys don't know the definition of anime was Invincible made by a Japanese studio? I dont think so, Invincible is not an anime LMAO
and i dont wanna use someone like knight for months just because hes good
literally the japanese name for some animated cartoon 💀
yeah
youre right
Soft n wet go beyond was supposed to come in the anniversary update but he got cancelled because they want save him for a future jjba upsate
peak show btw
we need another jojo updt
14.0 💀
Are we asking 14 units not to be meta when we’ve been waiting for a month and a half?
we're never getting another jojo update they haven't even revamped sbr like they said they would
not the full 14 units, just the non anime ones
We aint getting that till next year with the anime release lmaoo
hell if i know
Soft n wet go beyond n wonder of u both cancelled smh
maybe in 2030...?? 😭
The Knight and Doomslayer LOL they have wack shit in game that can translate well to AV
Especially doomslayer weapon combos
doomslayer guts skin

And spot
If he can be interesting
Wonder of u/Pucci kinda confirmed to have their own update
We only know three of the 14 units that are dropping as well, DMCA cooked us on an update cause the event calender looks wild
most like
4
rwby, knight, doomslayer and the girl from fate
i think it was kazi pick
Last event on the calender was 22nd of this Month
i'm actually gonna cry
Pretty sure it’s a real
Pick
Thought it was just a character from fsn not rin
sent by clay makes it a 50/50 on if its real
whos that
If they follow the trend they do typically yea
Spot
who??
Yeah update in two weeks and a half
New gen didn’t watch spider man?
oh that guy
he is a pretty good villain
the picks are WAY more random than i thought
It was whatever the devs wished i expected it to be chaotic
all this effort could've been transferred into a naruto war arc update btw
just saying
id rather have random game/movie guys
14 characters?
who it would be
then a naruto update
Whybso
You want it as a .0 update?
There’s not enough hype to make it a ,0 update
Only .5
i’d rather naruto gets his own vanguard
might guy
naruto double evo
sasuke double evo
obito double evo
madara
kakashi
naruto dosent even have hype for an update like at all
or as a sasuke and naruto duo unit
thats already enough for an x.0 update
when we just got a familiar
ok broski
om
also they said all characters will be in the same level of powercreep, so naruto update wont fit
ok*
They did say they were saving Madara for something
people voted for the familiar because people wanted him back
giving him a double evo accomplishes the same thing
no, they voted for him because they already had mon obito
we all know how ass his main passives are
my point still stands
a double evo does the same thing dude
also no one has monarch obito
💀
NOBODY could go for monarch back then unless they had 100k robux
i got monarch chain in the first day, without spending a dime
Yeah I really want know how they going determine who gets to be meta and who don’t. av is giving us a lot of rerolls but doesn’t necessarily mean they wi make us spin on 14 units
I dont know much about Naruto never been into it but even i gotta agree id rather have an update on that arc lol
watch naruto
minus the filler
please
i'd pay you
but im broke
so js watch it for your sake
thats lowk hella random but i love it
Would be abit i have a backlog of shit i gotta catch up on
same 💔
it takes me a year on average to fully complete a series deadass
unless its like a 12 episode multiple seasons one those are alright
its been 3 years and i still haven't finished mha
I prosctinate like crazy and bt the time a season comes out i lock in
mha so mid
SAMEEE
my brother just another me fr
Cinderella Gray pt2 came out and i gotta lock in but i have two whole ass seasons and a movie
good luck
Stupid ass horse anime that somehow sucked me in even though its not my thing usually
i’m sorry the truth offends you
😔
you either didn't watch/read it or just follow the trend and hate randomly
mha is fire it's just fandom that is weird
i watched the first 2 seasons when they came out and dropped it
Yea no i cannot call MHA mid, I hated on that shit so hard till i actually watched it and its up there for me pretty heavy
fr it's heat
easily best new gen
They locking in on the final season dude
demon slayer >
carried by animations lmao
jjk is the horseman of carried by animation
the ds manga is great
so it’s not animation carrying
It would be better if it was longer
I can probably name like 10 other mangas I've read that have better writing
How i feel about Solo Leveling, its just an enjoyable watch but beyond its not crazy
100%
it's something you just watch for entertainment
writing is ahh
let's not talk about side characters
lmao
Side character? In my Solo Leveling? Nah.
i hate evernight dancing gif
i used to hate kny
but honestly
i just think its a 6/10
🤷🏻♂️
its not exceptional but i understand why people like it
Fair
Its got good animation
Okayish story
Its not great but it isn't objectively bad
lie
The manga is objectively mid if not below average, hes right
The art isnt that insane, the story is less than basic, the ending is more than questionable
whats wrong with the ending?
The fact that like 2 of the major villains were made so strong the only way for them to die was "welp guess ima just die"
akaza and kokushibo?
It was rushed in general, didn't the manga not have the hashira training arc
huh? of course it did
Dk tanjiro wasn't stellar either
Guess im just tripping then
Yeah it did
you misunderstand kokushibos death.
he wanted to keep on fighting, but he couldn't. then, akaza is the opposite. he had the ability to keep on fighting, but didn't want to
I thought anime added extra content
woah woah woah akaza is the best piece of writing in ds lets not get hasty here
Didnt he look at his reflection in his sword and just start melting
by the way
I CANT SPOIL IT
OTHERWISE THE MESSAGE GETS DELETED
W automod
gon was a bad kid raised by good people and killua was a good kid raised by bad people
I recall him losing his will to fight after he saw his ugly ass and realized he had ended his bloodline himself or smtu
yeah nah thats not what happened
he died to blackpill 💔
"just be a demon" brutal
anyways neither of them were rushed. infinity castle literally takes up almost half of the manga, and they go very in-depth with each uppermoon present
kokushibo felt odd asf
and even some of the slayers there as well, like shinobu
akaza was great, best writing to come out of kny
but the story itself just feels bland in some aspects
you WILL catch me watching the rest of the movies though ✌️
i think the only time the story feels very weak is swordsmith village. its the most boring uppermoon fight, and the villains are the most boring out of them all
gyokko and hantengu were literally blank slates. gyokko doesnt even have a backstory in the manga
cool powers, but no character depth
the last time demon slayer was genuinely good was the entertainment district arc
that entire segment of the story was PEAK
i liked mugen train and infinity castle more
gyutaro still feels a great bit stronger than a fair few of the upper moons
entertainment district knew how to make the big bads actually feel like big bads
the entertainment district was leveled by the fight between gyutaro, daki vs everyone else
it was destructive
no other upper moon or even muzan gave that much of a performance imo
yeah it was because most of that fight wasnt even in the manga imo
mugen tran felt like the first actual detriment to slayers
the fight was legit like less then 10 pages long😭
made you realise there are actually stakes
studio reliant story 💔
genuinely i am pretty sure in the manga the fight lasted like 4 pages
muzan 100% did
4 pages?
you mean 4 chapters?
entertainment district was like 10-15 chapters 😭
Tanjiro vs muzan bout to go hard
he was saying "i cant use a technique" while melting to death
ik they gonna cook with the yoriichi ghost
the arc yes not the fight
Yes
smh
he didnt give up bro 💀
this is how it went
"damn im chopped but i still wanna kill these guys"
"wait.. why cant i do a technique"
"AHHHHHHHH"
last fight gonna go hard
we getting kokushibo fight and muzan fight for the next movie right
domua
another 2 hours of absolute PEAK
and koku
shit gonna be tragic
Akaza's alone was 3h no?
or like 2h 30m
i mean i don't mind them stretching fights cause it fills the content in the manga and does it better at that
That doesn't necessarily mean it was bad, I enjoyed it
gon lost his humanity but mereum gained his
I also lost my humanity
parallel lines move side by side but never meet




