Vanguard Familiars

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This is a list of vanguard familiars (for non-limited units) that I would like to be implemented into the game eventually:
Akaza
Possibly Todo, Choso and Jogo
Lancer
Archer
Saber
Kenpachi

I have not included SBR units in this list as the developers have stated that they're all getting reworked when the anime drops.

WHY THESE UNITS SHOULD GET VFAMILIARS
Akaza: From the moment he was added, he was buns. His max upgrade aoe was extremely unreliable so no one really used him. But come on man! This was the dude that made Rengoku a donut! So why is this guy unusable. Devs, add one for this guy, please (infinity castle hype too, yk).

JJK Units: You could add vanguard familiars for these guys but I personally don't care. They were never really at the top of the meta but they weren't unusable either. So uhh...whatever.

Lancer: He was THE boss killer back then and I mean it. It didn't matter if the boss was Frieza or Gilgamesh, he absolutely CRUSHED them. But now...every new unit added has triple his DPS so it doesn't even matter that he does 75% more damage when hitting 1 enemy. For that reason, we NEED to return this guy to the meta to show powercreep what true boss slaying is.

Archer: The definition of sub-meta. He basically stayed in that hellish purgatory for what? 3 updates? Maybe 4? I don't understand why you would make any unit suffer this fate (not a pun). This is why he should experience the joy of being meta with the help of a vanguard familiar.

Saber: Once the best unit ingame, now only a decent dps. How did this happen? Well, simple, powercreep. I'm not here to say that this game's powercreep is way too steep, I'm here to say that Saber should get a vanguard familiar. Yeah, add one for her, please.

Kenpachi: Basically the same reason as Akaza but ig he wasn't completely unusable (still buns tho).

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[twin kettle]

nobody cares abt ur opinion

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thank u

👍

[visual ivy]

Alucard and buff in the same sentence💔

But yes buff akaza

Give him a evo

✌️

[jovial mason]

archer vanguard familiar

im DROOLING

[still horizon]

Is this glaze

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Let me think

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ok mr

[jovial mason]

🥹

upvote my shi

ong

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i was gonna continue ranting bout how saber was the best unit but is now only decent dps

[jovial mason]

i even made a shitty fan remodel for archer

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ppl yap so much in ts channel

[visual ivy]

Saber is definitely not the best unit😭

[jovial mason]

top 3 for me besides Jeanne and Musashi

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was

gng cannot read 💔

oh shi right mb, av players cant read

[visual ivy]

Yeah maybe I cant💔

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😔

[rough glacier]

forgot to mention kisuke 😅

dont want my monarch kisuke to rot in my inventory anymore

[still horizon]

Why though

I don't think dps would help him because of his spa and aoe

[split harness]

kisuke kinda a goofy choice

[still horizon]

He's basically a f2p alu but worse

[rough glacier]

give him a familiar where hes support but monarch his best trait

global cd support ability

🧐

[split harness]

what?? so u want a support character to do good dps too?

[rich cosmos]

basically join in the 99% monarch trait option

[rough glacier]

just decent dps

like 20-40k dps

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uh bwuh

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with monarch?

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yes

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then that's mid asf

literally decent

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then 70k dps

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ok ig

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BRO

30k imo

cuz decent

[rough glacier]

thats so mid

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nah

nah

nah

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gojo full aoe

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support = mid dps

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and does 90k

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nah nah nah

kisuke aint gojo

kisuke aint got no hollow purple

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kisuke better than gojo

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kisuke is kisuke

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https://tenor.com/view/urahara-gif-24146420

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pretty sure gojo can beat kisuke

like idk

actually

wait

benihime

idk atp

justice for akaza

i tink

[tall carbon]

alucard can gladly go out of this suggestion the rest is fire

cuz he doesnt need a buff now

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sure ig

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checkpoint

bump it up

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obama have

[simple lava]

only upvoting this cuz my monarch Aizen must be meta

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😭

dis the only reason ppl want vfamiliars

they dont want their monarch to rot in their inventories anymore

[lean nimbus]

Please a lancer familiar 🙏🙏🥺

He was my first monarch

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i put that in my suggestion 👍

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checkpoint

[lean nimbus]

Yea i know

I was just emphasizing it

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ok cool

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bump

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bump

[simple lava]

been playing since upd 0.5 and he’s my only monarch besides a rare Naruto rotting in my inventory

bump ts so he can be the best unit again

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bump

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cehckpoint

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Bump

[ancient estuary]

Rengoku and meta support

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Read it again

[ancient estuary]

I agree with the suggestion but rengoku was not a meta support gang 😭

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It was tho

Remember gng?

[ancient estuary]

No man

Burn going from 30% to 36% is irrelevant

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Ask any og av player

[ancient estuary]

Ive played since the day of relwase

I think id know

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He counted as meta support along with alucard

[ancient estuary]

Rengoku has always been chopped

💀

Even comparing those two is crazy

[split harness]

Nah I ain’t comparing

Back in the day there was only like 3 support units

So any decent one could’ve been counted as meta

[ancient estuary]

Im just letting u know, rengoku was always ass too.

Costs way too much to ever be worth bringing to prog

And he was chopped in inf cuz the only burn unit was obito and rengoku buffed obito's dps by 4%

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Increases Burn DMG to 50% of DMG; Enemies hit by attacks are inflicted with Purgatory Flames, making them receive +25% Burn DMG

[ancient estuary]

Purgatory flames SUCK

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50% burn aint too bad imo

But that’s dps

[ancient estuary]

A 30% burn goes to 36%

😭

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I mean I swear everyone called him meta support back in Update 0.5

I was literally grinding my ass off for bro

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Checkpoint

[hallow wedge]

Giving alucard a vanguard familiar while half players still dont have him and he doesnt have no pity is a bad idea

[ancient estuary]

Giving the 1.2x damage multiplier a buff is a bad idea in general

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Alucard?

I removed him from my actual list

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?

[ancient estuary]

Corrected the message

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ohh

Which unit?

[jovial mason]

No bro no

People who said rengoku was meta support might have been delusional

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ohh ok

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Checkpoint

[ancient estuary]

Alucard

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When did he have a 1.2x dmg multi?

[ancient estuary]

He IS the 1.2x damage multiplier, wounded increases all damage by 20%.

Its a multiplicative buff

Theres a reason hes still a top 2 if not top 1 support

[hallow wedge]

He gives 20% damage and he bleeds full aoe

Goated support

No need for familiar

[rain oasis]

some of these shouldnt get familiars

cause they need a rework

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checkpoint

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thought u meant he had a 1.2 damage multiplier in his passives or smth

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i agree with Akaza but the only thing that really needs a rework is his final attack. Todo, Choso and Jogo imo are fine with only a vfamiliar. Lancer would be fine with only a vfamiliar (dps buff). Archer's the same cuz only thing that needs changing is dps and maybe active. Saber needs dps buff. Aizen don't need a rework at all but he could get a vfamiliar once he falls off. Yamamoto js needs a dps buff and maybe a cooler active. Kenpachi could get a rework yeah

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bump

[polar idol]

Tuff suggestion bro bro 🥹

WE all want Archer familiar

He was the blast support before Kaguya

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checkpoint

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bu,p

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also they said on stage that they won't be buffing any units so old units will js get vfamiliars

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bump

[fierce fox]

Other than aizen i might agree

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i said when he exits meta

cuz he's in submeta rn so obv not

[fierce fox]

With broly he does a minumum 300k dps monacrh

[prime moth]

what about diego familiar 🥺

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i said why i didnt include any sbr units gng

and diego's limited

and this list is non-limited only

[prime moth]

gilgamesh is also limited

No just add diego

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this list is non-limited only

[prime moth]

no just add diego

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i said this list is non-limited only already gng 😭

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yamammoto????

the guy with 60k hp summons???????

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40% of this unit's dmg stat is mid gng

[prime moth]

still 60k summons + full aoe..

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not as meta as jinwoo who got genuine cracked summons

but ofc yama is secret

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vanguard vs secret from legend stage

😭

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yeah so yama's balanced to his rarity

i might remove him from this list

[prime moth]

yes so he doesnt need a vanguard familiar

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yeah sure

[prime moth]

but u know who does

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i removed it

[prime moth]

🤑

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💔

i might make a list for limited units lowk

[prime moth]

Ty bro ill bump it now

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imma remove aizen too

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also waht does archer even do

is he a support

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he's js there

lmao

[prime moth]

oh wow

fate wasnt a bad update tbh

its just dead cause of aa

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bro tried to be dps and support

but failed at both

[prime moth]

could have been such a cool character

broly vanguard familiar when

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👍

tmrw trust

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checkpoint

what limited unit vfamiliars yall want?

im not doing diego cuz he gon get reworked when sbr anime drops

[prime moth]

diego

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😔

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Bump

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Bump

[silver mango]

They need to finally do my goat archer some justice

[lunar lynx]

i knew vanguard familiars were a bad idea now everyone is asking for a familiar for EVERY unit

[lunar lynx]

according to who ?

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Devs

Ask miso beef

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For every unit 💀 only for old units

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Checkpoint

imo 10 vanguard familiars is when they should stop which is why I said possibly for 4 of them

[lunar lynx]

buddy you just listed like 10 units asking for their vanguard familiar

[split harness]

The possibly ones are the ones I’m not sure about

Which means they don’t exactly need to be added until much later

Currently there’s 5 that we know of

Sukuna gojo gilgamesh obito tengen

5 that don’t have possibly

On my list

[lunar lynx]

none of the units you listed need a familiar most of them were good on their updates and still good to this day and the other units nobody cares about

[split harness]

plenty of ppl asking for akaza and archer imo

[lunar lynx]

ah yes my fav units lancer and akaza they def need a vanguard familiar instead of just letting them die and be outdated

[split harness]

Saber is not even usable now although she was the best back in update 2 and 2.5

[lunar lynx]

youre the first person to ever want vanugard familiar for these 2

[split harness]

That’s bs gng

[kindred hamlet]

Can we make a familiar for kaguya? I've got her on release and never used it 🤦😂😂

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😔

What a wonderful opinion

[kindred hamlet]

Ty

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Np

[kindred hamlet]

Akaza familiar would be cool

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I swear I saw at least 2 stage suggestions for akaza vfamiliar

[kindred hamlet]

🤔

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Ones not in the title

Owoflex demon slayer suggestion

And some other dude

Lotus

Yep 2

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Checkpoint

If anyone doesn’t agree, uhh ok

[kindred hamlet]

Aura

[dusky tusk]

Giving vanguard familiar on aizen cuz he's cool is a good reason actually but no, as long as their damage reaches 50k (this includes their critical damage as per archer)

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Oh sorry

[dusky tusk]

Sorry

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Wrote smth wrong

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No

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Deleted bro

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Checkpoint

[dusky tusk]

Then we have gilgamesh that reaches the threshold cuz the community wanted it (i voted for gilgamesh)

Kbye

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Bump

[brave moon]

what the fuck is that

hell nooooo

🤢🤢🤢

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Bump

[polar idol]

I would appreciate a Salter vfamiliar just saying

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Does she need one though?

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Checkpoint

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bump

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why does this message have so many hearts gng 😭

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bump

for limited unit vfamiliars, do yall want to include bp units or not?

for example haruka rin or julias

[shadow zinc]

Dude

Those are fucking support units

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?

[shadow zinc]

Julius is dps but he’s technically support

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support units can be buffed 👍

[shadow zinc]

Okay but what’s the point of buffing if it’s not enough to put them back in meta?

The smith can give you a 90% buff

Per unit

[split harness]

makes sense actually

thanks

[shadow zinc]

Why would I use rin when she can’t do that

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so i wont include bp units

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my current list: rengoku, toji, possibly dandadan units, gogeta (?), diavolo (?), david

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should i include non-support bp units then?

like naruto and cyberpunk ones

actually nah they buns

bad choices

naruto ones are unpopular

cyberpunk one maybe david but eh

[shadow zinc]

Depends which one

Dmc brothers is impossible bc they received like two nerfs

Dante can’t do shit because he’s always nerfed from his spa lock

And vigil is just not good no more since he require a cc

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so only david

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checkpoint

[shadow zinc]

He got potential if they give him another evo

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it's a bp unit so obv not

either vfamiliar or nuthin

[shadow zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-edgerunners-david-martinez-adam-smasher-sandevistan-david-cyberpunk-gif-26854689

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vheckpoint

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bump

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eyyyyy nearly 20 likes

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Bump

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Bump

[wooden drift]

saying lancer was THE boss killer when vegeta existed 💔💔

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erm actually lancer was better at boss killing cuz better dps 🤓

ZZZ server tag so goated

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Checkpoint

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bump

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21 likes let's gooooooooooooooooo

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spotlight?

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bump

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[narrow needle]

Tell me you're a fate glazer without telling me you're a fate glazer

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erm

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[deep plinth]

Honestly Rengoku and Toji prob should get something at some point lol
But it won't happen for a while cuz they both are limited 😭
Otherwise yeah the list makes sense, but I think I'd add a Sosuke / Naruto familiar cuz they've both been awful since release lol

[split harness]

Yeah this is a list of vfamiliars for non limited units

Tbh I want sasuke and naruto to get double evo

And obito

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Bump

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Bump

[deep plinth]

give archer a familiar (I'm not biased at all with my shiny archer 😃 )

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wait a sec

im still not in spotlight

am i spotlight locked?