im not sure if this a bug or not
but his summons ability scale on his dmg to summons enemies
if the enemies got over 50x of his dmg it barely to summons
#Vsjw summons
hoary tendon
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hoary tendon
deadeyes vsjw is so useless 💔
lime wraith
ill check
lime wraith
im not sure if this a bug or not
but his summons ability scale on his dmg to su...
isn't the summons supposed to be the enemies hp ?
covert panther
U brought griff and guts?
hoary tendon
U brought griff and guts?
yes
covert panther
Not a bug
hoary tendon
and it havent reached the limit yet
covert panther
The summon low hp mob
hoary tendon
The summon low hp mob
😭 vsjw is useless on high waves then?
covert panther
Cuz apostles are lower hp
lime wraith
😭 vsjw is useless on high waves then?
no
covert panther
Meaning vsjw will keep using up all mana for them first before getting enough mana for high hp mobs
hoary tendon
like last time i use him without griffith
he barely summons on high waves although we just turn his arise on at wave 160
and in tournaments in the past tho
lime wraith
Meaning vsjw will keep using up all mana for them first before getting enough ma...
oh so he's cooked with the falcon and guts in inf damn
hoary tendon
and killing enemies that over 10m if he can arise them
hoary tendon
vsjw need mana for summons right
yes
covert panther
the higher the hp of mobs the more mana u need
lime wraith
vsjw need mana for summons right
for higher hp yes
hoary tendon
the higher the hp of mobs the more mana u need
💀
covert panther
ur vsjw have no chance to get full mana for high hp shadow spawns
hoary tendon
gray siren
That’s how it’s always worked
covert panther
it will keep on using mana on low hp apostles
hoary tendon
That’s how it’s always worked
lwkey wait for this answer ✌️
covert panther
cuz they costs much less mana
hoary tendon
so vsjw arise scale on his dmg 💔 ?
gray siren
Arise costs more mana the higher the hp of the mob, to balance it out so that you can’t summon a 3m hp shadow for 4 mana or whatever the cost is
gray siren
so vsjw arise scale on his dmg 💔 ?
The mana scaling does
covert panther
that just answer 50% of my question 💔
yea and i explained
hoary tendon
The mana scaling does
🥀
covert panther
prob didnt understood my explaination 🥀
gray siren
Eventually it gets to a point where it costs 100 mana to summon a single shadow
covert panther
???
gray siren
I dunno what else to explain
lime wraith
Arise costs more mana the higher the hp of the mob, to balance it out so that yo...
I think that's should fr be intended 3m hp for 4 mana
W balance change
gray siren
They’ve done a pretty good job of explaining it
hoary tendon
my deadeyes vsjw took 14 mana to summon just 1 demon with 70k hp 🥀
covert panther
YES
hoary tendon
sh
covert panther
ok if u dont understand the explaination
hoary tendon
welp wtv ig
covert panther
u will have to find out urself
hoary tendon
i aint using vsjw from now on
hoary tendon
u will have to find out urself
the higher hp enemies the higher mana cost
covert panther
yes
gray siren
If a shadow would spawn with more hp than vsjw has damage, it starts to cost more and more mana depending on the difference between health and his damage stat
hoary tendon
but i prefer that with scale on vsjw dmg too
covert panther
what do u not understand, im open to questions
hoary tendon
like monarch vsjw is doing more than deadeyes vsjw on high waves
covert panther
what
gray siren
Monarch’s mana scaling will last longer, yes
hoary tendon
if the more hp enemies the more mana cost then they both should be summon at same amounts but the monarch does more
gray siren
Because he has more damage so it takes longer for the enemy hp to catch up with him
gray siren
Deadeye VSJW starts costing more when he summons shadows with 100k health
Monarch VSJW starts costing more when he summons shadows with 300k health
Difference being is that deadeye still has 3 sources of summons instead of 1, and they can crit
The health numbers arent exact, I just kinda rounded based off the images already in here
hoary tendon
still useless in inf with ts feature
gray siren
hoary tendon
20m
gray siren
%max hp summons is still insane in inf
hoary tendon
they not even summon 1 single 🥀
gray siren
It’s why they get put at the end of the track
hoary tendon
when they both meta inf
gray siren
cant combo with griffith and guts
Also yeah. 
Not every unit works well together, some anti synergize
hoary tendon
yeah type shit powercrept 🥀
gray siren
I mean, you can’t really powercreep %hp damage
Either way, this isn’t a bug, this has been a feature since vsjw released
lime wraith
!!a not a bug