Make Infinite mode scale to high hp enemies after a specific wave, so LB runs would be faster+

[cunning pond]

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[slow moat]

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[cunning pond]

LB runs would be faster , no one likes to wait 2 hours to have a CHANCE of getting LB

example , if wave 50 start scaling HP

[sick hazel]

Enemy does run faster like after wave 80 atp tho, it does need to scale higher a bit I agree

[deft lichen]

they alr increase in speed and health

[cunning pond]

still need to wait 2h+ to a LB run

[deft lichen]

no u dont

not on the more recent maps

[cunning pond]

yesterday i tried a lb run

2h+ to lose on wave 140

the top 12 is wave 169

on the new map********

hill of swords

[vestal tangle]

This is how it already works
You just want a scaling increase

[cunning pond]

yes , increase hp in " low " waves

[fierce pulsar]

I dont think it should scale more up to like wave 80 thats fine, but I think past wave 80 it should scale a lot faster

or even just up to wave 50

mainly for the quest so casual people can still complete it

[cunning pond]

yes

thats what im saying

[fierce pulsar]

but after that the scaling should increase I agree

[deft lichen]

the speed already scales fast once u get higher up

[fierce pulsar]

runs still take 2+ hours

which is absurd

[deft lichen]

not really

its inf lb

[cunning pond]

yes its absurd

[deft lichen]

used to take way longer

[cunning pond]

do u think its better

[fierce pulsar]

we're not saying its worse than what it used to?

[cunning pond]

lb top 1 be like top 90 but hard to get there or wave 220 top 1

[fierce pulsar]

apoc is just ragebaiting at this point

[deft lichen]

how is it bait

[strong yoke]

ppl want to decrease inf lb whole time wl takes so much longer

[deft lichen]

its not that long for an inf lb run

[fierce pulsar]

considering u need to usually have multiple attempts it is

if u wanna get top 12 or top 1

[deft lichen]

2 hours on 1 map for 100 rrs and a skin vs 30+ hours for 30 rrs and a devalued shiny u can get for being lucky

[fierce pulsar]

get between* and*

[fierce pulsar]

its not 2 hours

u wont get top 12 after 1 attempt 99% of the time

[strong yoke]

it is and if u turn off waveskip the its like 3-5

MAX

[mortal stratus]

2+ hours is genuinely not even bad, aa runs used to be overnight/8+ hours

[strong yoke]

thank u bru

[deft lichen]

then do multiple runs

[cunning pond]

2h i got wave 140 , not even on top 100

[fierce pulsar]

^

[strong yoke]

skill issue tho

😐

[deft lichen]

lock in

[fierce pulsar]

what is

[cunning pond]

yea ofc

!

[fierce pulsar]

the downside of scaling being faster past wave 50 tho?

y'all are not making any arguments as to why its a bad suggestion

[strong yoke]

did u acc log out cause it was taking too long or u died

i dont get it

[deft lichen]

btw the scaling from where u got to the top of the lb is really fast there is a 20 min gap maximum

[fierce pulsar]

it saves players time, letting them enjoy more aspects of the game rather than spending endless hours on inf lb

av has been literally catering to players

[deft lichen]

then dont do it

[fierce pulsar]

with a bunch of qol changes

[cunning pond]

died

[fierce pulsar]

horrible argument

[deft lichen]

its a leaderboard

[strong yoke]

so ya

its a skill issue

[deft lichen]

how is that horrible

[fierce pulsar]

yea leaderboards should be hard

and it still will be hard

[deft lichen]

u arent forced to do lb

[fierce pulsar]

just as hard

[cunning pond]

yea ok but still bad 2h to have a chance

[fierce pulsar]

cause the scaling will be FASTER

[cunning pond]

just make it faster

[fierce pulsar]

whats the downside to making it faster

[strong yoke]

gng i need to play 50+ hours to get a t12 spot for wl

[deft lichen]

people complaining about inf lb time and not wl time

[fierce pulsar]

when on average u need several MINIMUM 2 hour runs to land even top 32

[strong yoke]

like id rather they focus on fixing wl

thats why im here

[deft lichen]

not really

[strong yoke]

[deft lichen]

i get basically top 32 on my test run

[fierce pulsar]

wl u guarantee yourself +1 floor every 5 mins if u have a good team

[cunning pond]

so make a suggestion to be quick

not saying they will do it

[fierce pulsar]

inf u can spend hours to not even place top 12

[strong yoke]

nah u just need a good strat inf isnt very rng

[fierce pulsar]

thats the difference

[strong yoke]

ive alr asked

[deft lichen]

u dont know what u are talking about lol

[strong yoke]

and to increase rewards

they dont wanna

[eager flume]

the suggestion is about inf lb but you guys are talking about wl lb

😭

[fierce pulsar]

y'all hating just to hate

why is wl even brought up

[strong yoke]

yes cause thats another lb to compare to genius

[fierce pulsar]

still haven't named why making scaling faster past wave 50 is a bad thing

[deft lichen]

100+ 5 min attempts to hit the proper rng to have a CHANCE of winning

[fierce pulsar]

"its a leaderboard" wheres the argument?

[deft lichen]

1 floor btw

[fierce pulsar]

then make a suggestion for worldlines bro

this is about infinite

[deft lichen]

argument is that lb is supposed to be time consuming

[eager flume]

why not just make a suggestion about it and say if it suggestion is bad or not

without bringing another shit

[strong yoke]

they alr said no

but wll see

so i doubt they gna say yes to this

[fierce pulsar]

when was this?

[strong yoke]

[unkempt coral]

Wl lb is 32 spots lock in 😭
Inf lb is alot more spots

[fierce pulsar]

they said no to alot of things that are now in the game

[deft lichen]

they deadass have to increase scaling for wl it will be 500 minimum

[fierce pulsar]

bc thye catered more to players

[strong yoke]

i was t5 last season fym lock in

[cunning pond]

yea so make infinite and wordline scale high to ppls get low waves

are u good wth that

?

with

[deft lichen]

gs can crit now and 9.0 units arent even here yet

[unkempt coral]

Keep locking in then

[eager flume]

they always say no to stuff but at the end it get added

[fierce pulsar]

why are you trying to use "wl takes longer" as an argument against this INFINITE suggestion?

just make the same suggestion but for worldlines

[eager flume]

something declined never stay declined forever

unless is something bad

[fierce pulsar]

literally no other arguments have been made other than "wl takes longer"

[deft lichen]

its end game content completely optional if u dont have time for lb dont do it

[strong yoke]

ye im aware ur just agreeing that inf lb i easier in every way
im trying to make a comparison and if wl is currently much harder id like them balanced

[fierce pulsar]

and "its a lb" which isnt even an argument thats just a factual statement

[deft lichen]

not everything should be short asf

[fierce pulsar]

I have plenty of time but what is the DOWNSIDE of making it a bit faster

reading comprehension of a kindergardener

[strong yoke]

its too easy

thats pre much it

[fierce pulsar]

a tiny bit faster =/= easier

[strong yoke]

yes it does

[fierce pulsar]

the scaling will be just as hard just faster?

[strong yoke]

=more attempts

[fierce pulsar]

we're not saying

make inf lb runs take an hour

but getting to wave 180 takes almost 3 hours

I've done it plenty of times to know

[fluid yew]

worldlines would be bearable if there was a hard stage that let us skip 3 floors 😭💔

[fierce pulsar]

simply wrapped up, there is ZERO downside to making the scaling a bit faster

[strong yoke]

im talking abt wl lb not normal

[fierce pulsar]

not asking for 3x or 2x scaling after wave 50

[strong yoke]

very diff

[strong yoke]

i u dont see it then idk

[fierce pulsar]

just like 10-25% more scaling would already make it better without making it easier

[cunning pond]

tahts what im saying

for inf

[strong yoke]

🤷‍♀️

[fluid yew]

ohh also that i cant bother doing that ngl its more time consuming and less rewarding

[strong yoke]

shouldnt i be exponential

[fierce pulsar]

yea I cant agree with this

this is TOO much

[deft lichen]

dont see any lb players complaining about inf length ✌️
its so much more bearable than before

[strong yoke]

this is like small exponential at the beginning then normal 45 degree slope

[deft lichen]

new gens dont know what it was like

[strong yoke]

just make it exponential the whole way

[vestal tangle]

Cuz you guys are insane

[fierce pulsar]

this is literally 2x the scaling after wave 50

[deft lichen]

100 rrs is 100 rrs

[cunning pond]

so

just make wl and inf harder

[fierce pulsar]

this is the kinda scaling I'm suggesting

[cunning pond]

yes tats good

💔

[deft lichen]

this is already how it is bro

[fierce pulsar]

forgot to post the other image

lets say this is the current one (which it isnt, purely for visual reference)

[cunning pond]

yea but after 2 hours get hard

[strong yoke]

ye but shortening just makes it easier

[fierce pulsar]

make the scaling go like this comparatively

[strong yoke]

like

[fierce pulsar]

starting at 1% more

then over the progress of lets say 100 waves its at 25% more

[deft lichen]

make inf lb longer

[fierce pulsar]

1% more scaling compared to now every 4 waves or so

[deft lichen]

less competition

[cunning pond]

huhh , just make a " impossible " floor / wave to be harder to get lb , if top 1 inf get wave 90 cuz its harder (example

[fierce pulsar]

it makes it more time friendly

u need to be just as endgame

just as strategic

[deft lichen]

wave 90 is way to short bro

[fierce pulsar]

and just as loaded with meta units as currently

[cunning pond]

yea just make the mode harder

[fierce pulsar]

honestly

different solution for this

just make legend stage infinite

those would be way harder to get to late waves

[cunning pond]

legend stage?

o

[fierce pulsar]

it would add another layer of strategy with picking the modifier card at the start (or removing it for the inf mode idk)

and it would be what people that are loaded with meta units, but that have a job can go for

[deft lichen]

no

[fierce pulsar]

why not

[deft lichen]

legend stages would suck ass for lb

[fierce pulsar]

reasoning?

[deft lichen]

name a legend stage that would be good for lb

[cunning pond]

everything we said till rn u said its bad , apoc 💔

[fierce pulsar]

"it would suck" isnt an argument

[deft lichen]

like map design

[fierce pulsar]

why is it bad?

[cunning pond]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1412421154588721154/1416893139326599299/gisellezombie.gif

[fierce pulsar]

land of gods would be good for inf?

that one area where its a square of wibbly wobbly lines if you know what I mean

lemme get a ss

[deft lichen]

golden castle is multi path rng
spirit society too short
dbz map is just dbz it will always be ass regardless of legend stage or not
gg is multi path rng
aot is multi path rng with ass bosses
berserk would be fine

maybe berserk is too short

small map

[fierce pulsar]

aot has a spot where the paths come together thatd be good for inf

same with gg

it wouldnt be perfect but

that would just add to the difficulity?

[deft lichen]

no

rng

it takes longer to walk on specific paths

[fierce pulsar]

gotta go into a game again for this bs

[deft lichen]

if the boss goes the long way u can stall way longer

also vsjw sunmons are fucked for split maps

[unkempt coral]

Infinite is jst rng

[fierce pulsar]

ok that I can get

[unkempt coral]

Guts and griffith ruined vsjw summons

[fierce pulsar]

but infinite is very rng already

[unkempt coral]

Fr dk wt boss u gna get

[fierce pulsar]

simple solution to multi path maps

just make bosses go on 1 track all the time for inf

fixed 👍

[deft lichen]

its not as bad as wl

[fierce pulsar]

brochaco

this is ab infinite 😭

nobody talking about wl

[deft lichen]

u die to regular mobs

[deft lichen]

its another lb for comparison

[fierce pulsar]

lets go back to the main argument

[fierce pulsar]

completely different lb

lets go back to main argument like I said

why is making the scaling SLIGHTLY faster

a bad thing

not talking 3x or 2x

[deft lichen]

same arguments apply to both

[fierce pulsar]

after wave 50, 1% more every 3-4 waves compared to now

[deft lichen]

cus its fine as is

[fierce pulsar]

theres 0 downside to making it faster

[deft lichen]

if they add any more units that are crazy for inf

[fierce pulsar]

simple as

[deft lichen]

there is

it messes with cc cycling

and cid

having earlier nukes

also more competition

if its shorter

[fierce pulsar]

"I dont want more competition!!" is your main argument

[deft lichen]

yeah

[fierce pulsar]

imma just quit it here cause its like arguing against a wall with 0 brain

[soft juniper]

Wordlines also suffers from this

I would aim for

Leadhoard

But

350 worldliness minimum?

Are we good??

[deft lichen]

why would i want more competition if the scaling is fine as it is

[fierce pulsar]

worldlines definitely needs even more scaling

infinite I feel would benefit from a TINY bit of scaling

[deft lichen]

it will be minimum 500 this season

[fierce pulsar]

and worldlines would honestly need a good amount

[soft juniper]

“Pleaaseeee let me keep this leaderboard spot I don’t wanna get overtaken in this competitive gamemode”

I can’t post the

Ishowspeed trying not to laugh gif

someone do it for me

[fierce pulsar]

lemme see if I can

[deft lichen]

yeah who wants more competition

[fierce pulsar]

nope

[fierce pulsar]

yea u just made every argument u made invalid with this 😭

u just dont want it so its EASIER for you

[deft lichen]

how

[fierce pulsar]

get a job 😭

[deft lichen]

it messes with cid

[fierce pulsar]

yes barely, and for everybody

[deft lichen]

just promotes turning off auto skip

[fierce pulsar]

everybody would be affected by this so it'd be fast

[fierce pulsar]

thats already the meta

for inf

[soft juniper]

“nooo i have to spend less time in this gamemode please I just wanna sit on my ass for all day doing this pleaseee”

[fierce pulsar]

"pleaseeee I'm unemployed dont let employed people have fun and compete with me pleaseeeee"

[deft lichen]

not really cus by the time u need to nuke with cid the nuke alt has enough dmg

[soft juniper]

Wrap it up

[deft lichen]

oh boy he is tryna have fun in lb

[fierce pulsar]

turning off auto skip is also pretty much needed in underground church cause the server can crash bc of the giant ass enemies (black ones with the white glow things)

[deft lichen]

how do we tell him

[fierce pulsar]

placing top 12 is fun wdym?

and this would just let people that have responsibilities also have a good shot at it

[deft lichen]

getting the rrs is fun the game isnt though

[fierce pulsar]

yes obviously

[soft juniper]

“Yeah I enjoy sitting down several hours doing the same monotonous repetitive cycle for hours”

[fierce pulsar]

same with boss rush once ur in endgame whats ur point

[deft lichen]

who are u lol

u dont know what u are talking about

[fierce pulsar]

most things are boring if its not for the rewards in endgame

[fierce pulsar]

thats the whole point

[fierce pulsar]

says this but doesnt provide any argument

just argue with the wall bro

[deft lichen]

i have

[fierce pulsar]

everybody thinks this is a good idea except for like 2% of players that wanna hog inf lb

[fierce pulsar]

"I dont want more competition"

[deft lichen]

yeah

[fierce pulsar]

thats just you whining, not an argument 😭

[deft lichen]

nah

[fierce pulsar]

make one cohesive argument

[soft juniper]

he cannot formulate a single argument after spending multiple hours to the equivalent of watching paint dry😂😂

[fierce pulsar]

pretty much

[deft lichen]

chat is the bait working

[fierce pulsar]

me when I'm losing an argument and try to pass it off as bait

[deft lichen]

yeah

no but seriously lb should take a while it shouldnt be under an hour

[fierce pulsar]

NOBODY SAID THAT 😭

I said 1% more scaling every 3-4 waves

that would save like 20 mins tops but 20 mins is a lot when youre employed

[deft lichen]

@fierce pulsar

[fierce pulsar]

TOPS

[fierce pulsar]

I literally disagreed with that

did u even read

[fierce pulsar]

^

[deft lichen]

nah

[fierce pulsar]

illiterate

[fierce pulsar]

summed up incase anybody stumbles upon this, suggestion is to increase infinite enemy scaling after wave 50, my suggestion would be 1% more scaling based on what it is now every 3-4 waves which would save probably tops 20 mins which benefits people with irl responsibilities still trying to compete in inf lb

[deft lichen]

bro is taking this suggestion for his own

[fierce pulsar]

me and the original suggestion guy agreed on the scaling after wave 50

then I said MY suggestion would be

like?

the thread is literally to add onto the suggestion

[deft lichen]

thats ok i give u permission to inherit this suggestion