vanguards? they suck
#Rework starrk
jolly osprey
everyone has like 10
of each
i have 4 kaguyas
2 shiny escannors
3 gogetas
and 2 diavolos
vanguards are not rare anymore
finite parrot
nah not diavolo
jolly osprey
never was
mystic night
finite parrot
Diavolo himself is rare honestly
mystic night
Smalltask overlord
jolly osprey
a lot of people have him, just that his cosmetic sucks and also does the unit
they dont use it
the whole trading economy gonna rely on familiars, i hate this
this is not fun
at all
placid flame
hes not rare
the game was at it's worst when it came to player count when diavolo was ingame
barely anyone has him
wise steeple
only rare unit i can think of are diavolo, subaru and shiny dandadan units maybe
jolly osprey
the game was at it's worst when it came to player count when diavolo was ingame
yet diavolo was for 3 months
finite parrot
Subaru got duped too
jolly osprey
on the 3rd the game revived already
wise steeple
yet diavolo was for 3 months
3 months of 6k ccu
mystic night
Gonna trade my kidney for a god birb 💔💔
finite parrot
yet diavolo was for 3 months
3 months of horrible ass grind
jolly osprey
and it still does not matter
finite parrot
they boosted the currency when it was ending
placid flame
on the 3rd the game revived already
Diavolo wasn't ingame when the game was revived
jolly osprey
like this is not even fun
wise steeple
Diavolo wasn't ingame when the game was revived
it was
jolly osprey
dont make familiars tradeable atp
mystic night
Diavolo wasn't ingame when the game was revived
He was
jolly osprey
Diavolo wasn't ingame when the game was revived
it was fs
wise steeple
winter event revived
finite parrot
dont make familiars tradeable atp
Sadly they are
placid flame
He was ingame until the winter event??
mystic night
His banner was with Gogeta banner too
placid flame
crazy work who was gonna be grinding diavolo over gogeta anyways
wise steeple
looking for 2 kidneys
mystic night
birb is gonna dominate it
Ready for 20 minute video essays about how Birb killed this game
wise steeple
jolly osprey
the whole economy gonna rely on birbs, im glad i have all limited units in game, in terms of not competitive
placid flame
praying they don't make birbs tradeable
jolly osprey
they will be
finite parrot
they are
wise steeple
praying they don't make birbs tradeable
confirmed to be
jolly osprey
they have to change this tbh
placid flame
i'm sick to my stomach
jolly osprey
and also change how they design passives, they have to stop copy and pasting and giving every unit a follow up
wise steeple
they want the birbs
unless birb gets powercrept
placid flame
god birb boutta be worth 10 escanor's 💔
wise steeple
jolly osprey
stark has nothing to do with the current passives he have, only wolfs
finite parrot
unless birb gets powercrept
so never
placid flame
unless birb gets powercrept
not possible
wise steeple
god birb boutta be worth 10 escanor's 💔
make it 20 everyone and their mom got escanor
jolly osprey
god birb boutta be worth 10 escanor's 💔
20* escanor the easiest vanguard
i got 2 shinies
shouldnt be shinies rare? 💔
wise steeple
i just want shiny subaru
jolly osprey
i wish vanguards felt like getting dio or atleast aizen on anime adv
wise steeple
i should've saved the portals for shint event
mystic night
I'm lowkey disappointed with Gogeta
wise steeple
i wish vanguards felt like getting dio or atleast aizen on anime adv
hell nah
mystic night
The new one
placid flame
we need mountain shrine level difficulty in this casual content for some level of value to be created or somethin
jolly osprey
gogeta did not even last 2 updates being meta
wise steeple
even the low levels
jolly osprey
yea
finite parrot
Why is frieza lowkey cracked
jolly osprey
powercreep is real
sly vigil
Why is frieza lowkey cracked
cause he's him
knotty rapids
I'm lowkey disappointed with Gogeta
vegeta is getting a vanguard
hes fighting broly
gogeta and broly were shown in trailer
theyre two different units
placid flame
gogeta did not even last 2 updates being meta
The comp servers just stopped calling gogeta meta after the worst update for 99% of the game 5.0 got added
mystic night
he needs a buff
He's literally just a "Fused" and crit buffer
wise steeple
powercreep is real
powercreep doesn't even matter because game is easy as hell rn
placid flame
loser yamo enemies
wise steeple
there's literally nothing hard except tournaments and leaderboard
jolly osprey
He's literally just a "Fused" and crit buffer
oh i meant ssj4
finite parrot
powercreep doesn't even matter because game is easy as hell rn
Ngl I was saying this in a way
its not much difficulty
wise steeple
yeah i agree
placid flame
He's literally just a "Fused" and crit buffer
His damage is nasty tho
jolly osprey
also i hate they make this new gogeta a support, gng gogeta has nothing to do with support at all 💔
placid flame
wish gogeta was somethin else tho
finite parrot
its not much point in changing your team unless yea you’re doing lb or tourny
wise steeple
i hope they do make some changes with updates and stuff because new players Lowkey get spoonfed
jolly osprey
its not much point in changing your team unless yea you’re doing lb or tourny
yea teams always escanor kaguya vsjw farms support etc
same thing as always
just sometimes see cid, maaaaybe guts and griff
sly vigil
they made frieza better than gogeta i love it
jolly osprey
they made frieza better than gogeta i love it
gogeta dirty
knotty rapids
powercreep is real
there wasnt that much powercreep this update.
starrk isnt replacing any meta support or dps, frieza is not that crazy because of his minions costs, gogeta is buffing units that fell out of meta months ago, broly is good ofc
wise steeple
thing is now new players can just get easily the new op units and basically be on par with players who've been playing for way longer
sly vigil
yhwach keeps getting upscaled
wise steeple
especially escanor who's disgistingly easy to get
jolly osprey
yhwach keeps getting upscaled
dont see a reason to use him now when u can use sukuna vsjw and kaguya
wise steeple
dont see a reason to use him now when u can use sukuna vsjw and kaguya
he's cracked in tournaments
jolly osprey
you get like x5 dps
jolly osprey
he's cracked in tournaments
who the heck likes tournaments?
jolly osprey
only 5% of the player base plays tournaments
tournaments its just a mode for weirdos now
sly vigil
dont see a reason to use him now when u can use sukuna vsjw and kaguya
for fun
jolly osprey
popping off the same builds as always
sly vigil
its still fun to use old units
jolly osprey
skull knight did not even have its chance to be useful on tournaments
ppl always runs the same builds
wise steeple
skull knight did not even have its chance to be useful on tournaments
bleach map one he was meta
mystic night
wish gogeta was somethin else tho
He could ignore damage reduction or something
knotty rapids
He could ignore damage reduction or something
he has the blast element
thats it tho
jolly osprey
He could ignore damage reduction or something
ssj4 needs a buff for sure
wise steeple
tournaments are great if you're not in same bracket with sweats
jolly osprey
and the new gogeta i dont see why hes a support unit
has nothign to do with him
same as stark, i dont get him having a follow up, neither slow and neither how he works, has nothign to do with him
knotty rapids
they need some more balancers
placid flame
They really only had 1 philosophy with this update besides frieza and it was crit and follow up's huh
jolly osprey
they need some more balancers
and more idea helpers
mystic night
he has the blast element
It could be more than just that, like a total damage reduction or 50%+ ignore would be cool (and I can see that happening more than being a support...)
jolly osprey
They really only had 1 philosophy with this update besides frieza and it was cri...
they been spamming follow ups for a long time now
knotty rapids
broly and gogeta shouldve buffed each other
jolly osprey
i just dont like it, its not original at all it feels dry
knotty rapids
especially with the super dimension
mystic night
broly and gogeta shouldve buffed each other
Igris and Mythic SJW shit??
finite parrot
especially with the super dimension
wait
jolly osprey
broly and gogeta shouldve buffed each other
they could become a cool unit that fights
finite parrot
do they not?
knotty rapids
do they not?
nope
finite parrot
in broly ability
wise steeple
they could become a cool unit that fights
would've been way cooler
knotty rapids
broly buffs guts
wise steeple
broly doesn't deserve vanguards imo im not saying he's weak
finite parrot
placid flame
I don't mind the follow up's at all I just don't like how you need hella fused units around gogeta to make him worth while of using over others
jolly osprey
broly ability has nothing to do with broly, like dude, on the movie fight, that was just for the scene and visuals, its not an actual ability of broly
mystic night
I don't mind the follow up's at all I just don't like how you need hella fused u...
Atleast it's Jin Mori upscale
placid flame
Oh for sure I can max mori out easily in modes now
finite parrot
Born for vegito, made for mori
placid flame
should've been a gotenks unit reducing cost or somethin tho ngl 😭
knotty rapids
broly ability has nothing to do with broly, like dude, on the movie fight, that ...
well its related to broly since he partially caused it
mystic night
should've been a gotenks unit reducing cost or somethin tho ngl 😭
Gotenks familiar...
jolly osprey
well its related to broly since he partially caused it
no, it was just for the visuals.
knotty rapids
he has the power to go into these dimensions and break them
haughty osprey
Born for vegito, made for mori
it buffs mori?
finite parrot
it buffs mori?
yes
placid flame
Gotenks familiar...
don't give them ideas bro 💔
jolly osprey
he has the power to go into these dimensions and break them
its not his ability, its the clash of gogeta and broly attacks, and hes not even fighting ayone on the unit
knotty rapids
its not his ability, its the clash of gogeta and broly attacks, and hes not even...
im aware
jolly osprey
it makes no sense giving him that ability when hes not fighting anyone
finite parrot
mystic night
Born for vegito, made for mori
I still don't like how his passives are mostly being support
knotty rapids
fair enough
jolly osprey
this update had 0 sense tbh
its not bad
but i just dont like how they designed the units
placid flame
I don't mind the domain I actually like it
mystic night
https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-super-broly-broly-super-saiyan-broly-legendar...
Can new Gogeta lowkey counter attacks?? I forgot
placid flame
gogeta and broly were obviously based on the dokkan 9th anni units
jolly osprey
the rest just dont know how they managed up to flop like this but welp, we cant do anything about it
sudden pasture
ts ain’t even talking bout Starrk anymore lmao 😭
sly vigil
Can new Gogeta lowkey counter attacks?? I forgot
no
placid flame
Can new Gogeta lowkey counter attacks?? I forgot
no
knotty rapids
Can new Gogeta lowkey counter attacks?? I forgot
he shouldve but he doesnt lmao
mystic night
He lowkey could've had a counter
knotty rapids
couldve been like the ultra gogeta in dbl
placid flame
no one wants to use bum ass vegito
knotty rapids
no one wants to use bum ass vegito
especially since you can just use broly for rupture
mystic night
"It's futile!! 🦅"
polar notch
couldve been like the ultra gogeta in dbl
u mean like the aba awakening? 😄
knotty rapids
genuinely what was the point
finite parrot
jolly osprey
no one wants to use bum ass vegito
neither this new gogeta
placid flame
especially since you can just use broly for rupture
on placement rupture vs rupture after 3 minutes and maxxing other good units
mystic night
he shouldve but he doesnt lmao
The Gogeta "It's futile!!" Meme was lowkey big it would've been better if it was a counter instead of a plain dodge
placid flame
would've also upscaled his damage because of his crit
imagine how fat the crit counters would be
mystic night
Lmao
knotty rapids
same shit
finite parrot
i think starrk needs it more
knotty rapids
everyone is angry about both
finite parrot
😭
knotty rapids
they had a weird design philosophy for this update
wise steeple
crit merchants
finite parrot
why gogeta need so much takedowns
fresh crag
50% slow gota be one of the best av gifs😭 💀
finite parrot
placid flame
No devs I don't want to use deadeye to make gogeta the best he can be 💔
knotty rapids
50% slow gota be one of the best av gifs😭 💀
i dont think valk has watched or read bleach 💔
fresh crag
i dont think valk has watched or read bleach 💔
Real
finite parrot
i dont think valk has watched or read bleach 💔
As long as vasto lord is cool
im ok
wise steeple
No devs I don't want to use deadeye to make gogeta the best he can be 💔
and no devs I don't want to use broly and max out 3 times an expensive unit❤️
knotty rapids
broly is best with monarch
tiny dawn
Gonna be the same think like with slime king
knotty rapids
deadeye doesnt make a big difference
placid flame
broly is definitely a monarch unit
sudden pasture
i dont think valk has watched or read bleach 💔
devs gotta know some of the stuff they’re making
placid flame
if you're not a LB demon anyways even then you're probably not bringing broly to those
knotty rapids
devs gotta know some of the stuff they’re making
say that to ALS devs
wise steeple
deadeye doesnt make a big difference
isn't difference kinda big in dps?
if both maxed
toxic kernel
Ts feels like the freiren disrespect too
Rework stark fr
wise steeple
progressive monarch is always better yes
wise steeple
For what content
deadeye and monarch dps
mystic night
Gonna be the same think like with slime king
Rimuru atleast had his cost efficience built there for him along with big Full AoE
placid flame
sometimes you might want that 50% extra damage off a non crit attack
for the 50s
I don't think it's bad for him to not crit
sudden pasture
say that to ALS devs
I mean their jinwoo is pretty accurate
placid flame
I don't think it's bad for him to not crit
all the time atleast
sly vigil
I don't think it's bad for him to not crit
its not
sudden pasture
Yeah with the stat points, cup of reincarnation and whatnot
finite parrot
Bundle looks better than the shiny
wise steeple
Yeah with the stat points, cup of reincarnation and whatnot
they fear to scare the new lazy players away now
mystic night
I don't get WHY they made Gogeta more support-ish when he's like, a heavy-hitter, he could've had x% of damage reduction negation, a counter, something
placid flame
Honestly the Fused part of the passive doesn't make too much sense too me, why not just make him full on crit focused why does the unit gotta be part of a certain category
we got units like yhwach who literally get 30% damage on a unit each
and dropped a unit who has no correlation with him
taht gives him 12 placements alone
mystic night
taht gives him 12 placements alone
(and free 3 summons every 6 seconds)
(with 3 freezas ofc)
mystic night
Honestly the Fused part of the passive doesn't make too much sense too me, why n...
Could've made him like Dante or something
worn drum
i don't think starrk is as bad as people are saying
his base dps is low but he has guaranteed crits, does a follow up for 60% of his attack (that also crits) and hits enemies with his summons every 10 seconds (also crits)
i think that adds up to be pretty good but idk how to do the math for it
wet bloom
1.6m dmg combined is insane no wonder the next one has to be a shit wl unit
polar pivot
1.6m dmg combined is insane no wonder the next one has to be a shit wl unit
its not rlly a comparison thingy- but stark is quite bad as a support and a dps character
like they couldve made him fully support ( doesnt fit the character but) his just shit at that to imo
weather report fodder✌️
fresh crag
his base dps is low but he has guaranteed crits, does a follow up for 60% of his...
Its like 112k dps dedeye
Best thing abt him idk if tru
But his wolves permanently target enemies
It looks like its written tht way in his passive but his dmg low
versed granite
while they at it rework frieren too 😁
snow sentinel
while they at it rework frieren too 😁
less people have her and she's not as popular
also too old for me to care
cobalt obsidian
starrk so buns hes not even on the tierlist 💔
junior elm
Agree on this one, at least his cost for placement lower cuz hes bad bad, he need something to get changed
junior elm
starrk so buns hes not even on the tierlist 💔
Hell yeah choso pfp
mystic night
while they at it rework frieren too 😁
Getting Frieren as a WL already invalidates a future Frieren update, which lowkey makes me a bit sad
austere jolt
a 20 second slow that halves enemy movement. his damage isn't very impressive so the fact he has that makes him relegated to being a support unit
summer wagon
By that logic Kenpachi is a support unit
and ain't nobody that called kenpachi a support
austere jolt
atp in time he is
his dmg isn't the best
and his kit has been powercrept
but he has a full aoe slow
back when he was dropped I would say he's a dmg dealer but again starkk's numbers on drop in comparison aren't that good. his slow is his only redeeming quality
kenpachi on the other hand did 300k dmg with monarch
which was high for the time
versed granite
Getting Frieren as a WL already invalidates a future Frieren update, which lowke...
I mean I don't mind but they butchered like everything around her
Like the shiny and especially the abilities
Same w stark 💔
frozen monolith
WHY STARKK IS A SUPPORT
0% of his moves in the anime has any to do with support
And why cero metralleta isn't his last attack
the most iconic attack isn't even the last one
And his damage is ass
All in this unit is just bad
dawn heath
By that logic Kenpachi is a support unit
earnest sage
Have they ever reworked a unit kit before?
dawn heath
Have they ever reworked a unit kit before?
no
pure shuttle
Have they ever reworked a unit kit before?
Its usually very small stuff
earnest sage
Its usually very small stuff
Yea sadly
worn drum
i don't think starrk needs a complete rework, he just maybe needs some more damage
and they need to fix his wolves
dawn heath
i don't think starrk needs a complete rework, he just maybe needs some more dama...
damage isnt cutting it
it's mainly his entire kit
like he don't provide anything useful
slow bosses is kinda pointless bc kata is better at that
regular mobs i would rather use weather since 30% buff to ur units
worn drum
slow bosses is kinda pointless bc kata is better at that
i see his slow as more of a bonus
i think he's supposed to be a damage dealer but half his kit just doesn't even work
polar pivot
i see his slow as more of a bonus
its not even really the fact that he has slow- his kit quite literarily just doesnt make sense and contridicting itself- when i first looked at stark and saw the fact that he was a 4 placement and a slow i just presume he was a support- but his costs 1400 and quite expensive so then i just thought that he was a dps unit w a support passive as a add on- but that to doesnt make sense because his shit at that to
his pretty much a all round terrible character
imo
warm breach
rushed unit tbh
worn drum
his wolves don't work and his follow up attack might as well be random for how often it just doesn't come out
and even when all of it works he's still underwhelming
worn drum
everything can crit
worn drum
its not even really the fact that he has slow- his kit quite literarily just doe...
he actually costs 1800 so it's even worse
frozen monolith
Can we add a vanguard familiar for him
So starkk can be saved from being one of the worst worldline units?
fluid basalt
rushed unit tbh
Not just rushed, it's like whoever made his passives don't even watch bleach
Or at the very least used wiki to make it 😭
frozen monolith
Or at the very least used wiki to make it 😭
Where in the wiki it’s says he’s can be a slow unit
😭 they used chat gpt
fluid basalt
😭 wouldn't be surprised
versed granite
justice for stark 💔💔
ruby solar
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worn drum
wiki put him in support category
void urchin
W, starrk is trash rework him rn
lapis sparrow
this guy needs a rework before he goes
versed granite
rework stark or either bleach part 2 🥺🥺
karmic nacelle
wiki put him in support category <:tsinsanevro:1402235987878477835>
its so over
zenith fractal
did anyone test him after his wolfs got fixed?
summer wagon
Okay what's your point
People were actuing like he's purely a support and that his DPS doesn't matter 
ruby solar
People were actuing like he's purely a support and that his DPS doesn't matter <...
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summer wagon
It really isn't, at 4 placements he has a lot of damage potential. The damage tests don't really lie 
Like I said, the problem is his cost
Which makes it hard to justify upgrading him a lot with anything other than monarch
ruby solar
It really isn't, at 4 placements he has a lot of damage potential. The damage te...
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summer wagon
I've acknowledged that
Playing him for DPS isn't really feasible unless you have him monarch.
ruby solar
Playing him for DPS isn't really feasible unless you have him monarch.
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summer wagon
Because... They like stark? And with monarch he's actually really solid?
ruby solar
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summer wagon
Good dps with a hefty slow that serve to amplify his DIR a lot?
ruby solar
Good dps with a hefty slow that serve to amplify his DIR a lot?
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jolly pilot
People were actuing like he's purely a support and that his DPS doesn't matter <...
Because him being a support doesn't fit as to WHO coyote starrk is at all
that's why people are mad
ruby solar
Because him being a support doesn't fit as to WHO coyote starrk is at all
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royal pier
finite parrot
Espadas were lowkey newish
versed granite
you were meant for so much more..
undone bison
Playing him for DPS isn't really feasible unless you have him monarch.
is he worth getting monarch on for his dps?
summer wagon
I'd say so if you wanna use him
Otherwise you're using him as a support that has okay dps just for placement who can also at least slow bosses
finite halo
First kisuke, now starkk doing OUR goats dirty 😔🤞
junior elm
First kisuke, now starkk doing OUR goats dirty 😔🤞
Fr my goat kisuke 💔
lapis sparrow
b
snow sentinel
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mon-Arc?
ruby solar
you know game
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bronze pebble
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Monarch Escanor clears that in 5 minutes
Why nobody use Escanor
worn drum
starrk is actually kind of good now that his wolves work i'm not gonna lie
if my math is right then he's doing about 130,000 DPS if you include his crits, wolves, and follow up attack
polar pivot
starrk is actually kind of good now that his wolves work i'm not gonna lie
Yeah his dps is alright- theirs like no scenario where I would use him tho
worn drum
Yeah his dps is alright- theirs like no scenario where I would use him tho
idk, the only other units i can think of with this level of dps are guts, escanor, and jin mori
and they all cost more than him
he might be cracked
earnest sage
if my math is right then he's doing about 130,000 DPS if you include his crits, ...
woth what trait?
worn drum
monarch ofc
earnest sage
k
worn drum
i also had mine with the cheelai familiar
versed granite
Best spark unit in the game no?
knotty rapids
thats not really impressive
storm kayak
Best spark unit in the game no?
well yeah
he's virgil but half aoe and doesn't need a cc to be good
anyways stay on tengen stocks
he gonna buff kaguya by 90%
well w sukuna
knotty rapids
best sparking unit is kaguya
summer wagon
he gonna buff kaguya by 90%
where are you getting 90% from
you cant double dip on the element buff
jolly pilot
you cant double dip on the element buff
i think from the thingy that got leaked
summer wagon
Yeah, and its... 30%?
jolly pilot
Yeah, and its... 30%?
i think he means by like
stacking the sukuna buff and tengen one
summer wagon
that's 60
jolly pilot
i dont think he will buff twice tho
storm kayak
that's only 60
with sukuna bro
summer wagon
YES
storm kayak
😭😭
storm kayak
does he not buff 30 both?
summer wagon
fuh no
storm kayak
it doesn't double dip
60 still op
for just having the unit
Have you tested kaguya
i mean
tengen
summer wagon
Yes
storm kayak
Yes
Can you answer 1 questionnnn
does tengen have fire and blast like base element
like smith John
cause if it's not like that then that means kaguya doesnt get fire
jolly pilot
oh you mean if he gets it before placing him?
summer wagon
Don't think so
storm kayak
Don't think so
rip
I mean in your testing
does he seem rlly good ?
I'm thinking he is
considering he's cheap
full aoe
And has good dmg stat with the familiar
storm kayak
that brother costs damn near 100k to max
Cheap nowadays
storm kayak
<@79327043182919680> what counts as a debuff?
I'm guessing anything that's a status effect?
bubbled scorched
anything like that
summer wagon
<@79327043182919680> what counts as a debuff?
Literally anything over an enemy
jolly pilot
Literally anything over an enemy
ohh damn
sukuna and tengen would go really well together then ngl
as he is always applying dismantle
summer wagon
tengen also just applies scorch on his own
jolly pilot
tengen also just applies scorch on his own
does scorched does any damge? or just a support debuff
summer wagon
it's just wounded for fire element units
midnight hollow
<@79327043182919680> what counts as a debuff?
Not more crit
jolly pilot
Not more crit
i think if you pair with cheelai he would go crazy
midnight hollow
i think if you pair with cheelai he would go crazy
true, can I ask where you got the this from?
midnight hollow
ohh alr
fluid basalt
it's just wounded for fire element units
are you referring to fire as fire by default, or does it include units that gain fire mid-game like sukuna and kaguya
summer wagon
Uhhhh
summer wagon
I think it applies to fire mid-game
storm kayak
tengen gon be op
jolly pilot
wait
storm kayak
He's guaranteed crit with sukuna
jolly pilot
does the 30% blast and fire buff apply to himself?
fluid basalt
honestly i think they should nerf his "support" passives and increase his dmg
he synergises too well sukuna and kaguya
storm kayak
honestly i think they should nerf his "support" passives and increase his dmg
his dmg is rlly good if the buff applies to both of him
he gets a 60% dmg kncerease
summer wagon
The buff only applies once
fluid basalt
yeah
jolly pilot
cause it only says "allies"
fluid basalt
if it was 60%
jolly pilot
The buff only applies once
😭
fluid basalt
that'd be broken
storm kayak
The buff only applies once
so he buffs himself by 30%?
fluid basalt
especially for kaguya
summer wagon
You cannot buff someone who has blast and fire twice
summer wagon
so he buffs himself by 30%?
I believe so yeah
fluid basalt
could you imagine a 60% buff for kaguya on top of sukuna's 30% curse buff
summer wagon
sukuna finger buffs him, doesn't it
jolly pilot
sukuna finger buffs him, doesn't it
no
sukuna finger passives says "units"
tengen says "allies"
storm kayak
sukuna finger buffs him, doesn't it
yeah all units
summer wagon
I'm pretty sure it still applies to himself
storm kayak
scorched is 20% +
jolly pilot
i could get it right now
fluid basalt
has anyone calculated monarch tengen's dps with his familiar
storm kayak
Is cha in passion or holy?
fluid basalt
like his theoretical dps
storm kayak
has anyone calculated monarch tengen's dps with his familiar
131k
fluid basalt
Is cha in passion or holy?
holy
storm kayak
apparently smthclike that
storm kayak
alr
It's solid considering he's a buff
50% buff for kaguya if he works how I thinks he does
storm kayak
he's also multi hit iirc?
fluid basalt
whers the other 20 from
storm kayak
whers the other 20 from
Scorched
jolly pilot
damn near every familar is just a kaguya upscale 😭
storm kayak
damn near every familar is just a kaguya upscale 😭
best unit itg for a reason
fluid basalt
damn near every familar is just a kaguya upscale 😭
at this rate
silver mulch
tbh, if they removed starrk 4 placement and buffed stats equally the lost of the 4th placementit would be fine
fluid basalt
it might be fair if kaguya doesnt get a vanguard familiar
like
ever
almost every vanguard familiar seems to be buffing her
fluid basalt
maybe in a year or so
but
with her support capability
and tping
and allat
she is just
overall just the best vanguard imo
burnt sage
I believe so yeah
30% or 60%
burnt sage
tengens says buffs all allies 30% and sukunas says all units 30%
fluid basalt
we'll just have to wait and see 
storm kayak
@summer wagon do the devs know abt red key not working
or like the text being bugged
summer wagon
yes
ruby solar
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