Lancer Vanguard Familiar

[autumn dawn]

104K DPS with no missing lifestocks
135K DPS with 2 missing lifestocks

DPS with follow-ups depends on the status debuff on lancer.

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[amber sentinel]

Familiar/units/maps/skin suggestions are supposed to be in stage-suggestion channel

[autumn dawn]

wowza you get them in both double the profit

[autumn dawn]

bump

[past storm]

i like this especially cuz i mangro

[autumn dawn]

bump

[pearl cradle]

I don't like the idea making mythical rarity getting better than secret or vanguard

[autumn dawn]

i dont like secrets being better than vanguards

but we got sukuna

and everything will be powercrept eventually

as there's lots of mythics and secrets better than diavolo rn

[sand beacon]

WAIT MF

YOU RIPPED OFF PMY FUCKING FORNAT

the text on delete/passive/cancel is th same as mine, exact border thickness
the box was ripped
@cerulean oak did u share the thing i gave u with sm1

[autumn dawn]

you sent it in the chat

so i plugged it into paint.net

[cursive salmon]

😭

This is why you were stripped of your artist role

[autumn dawn]

it was basically a red box and a black box to begin with

[autumn dawn]

he sent the template in the chat and said here use this😭

[cursive salmon]

Tsk tsk tsk

I would credit whoever made the temp imo

I thought you were just another Owoflex clone and copied his formatting cuz it was easy 💔

[autumn dawn]

idek who owoflex is

i got my layers the base was something i could've made myself but i just saw he posted it for in public chat

[cursive salmon]

Drainalyse/Owoflex are the ones that made the temp

[cursive salmon]

Yeah but the formatting is pretty much the same which is why your just a clone 😭

Its not a bad thing

[autumn dawn]

this the raw

i've made suggestions before so i already had the font

if rounded boxes makes me a clone so be it

[cursive salmon]

Its not a bad thing 😭 😭 😭

[autumn dawn]

wdym by format though

just the familiar background and passive background

isn't this based off in game

[cursive salmon]

Familiar box/ showcase on left, Passive on right, Character BG without any additional editing

[autumn dawn]

thats it?

[cursive salmon]

I mean you literally just used the template bro

What more do i have to say

[autumn dawn]

😭

simply just the rounded boxes

[slender hemlock]

hwo did you do this

[cursive salmon]

Could have added unique gradients, did more editing on the bg to make it look less cluttered, added image examples or rationals etc

[slender hemlock]

are you a wizard

are you a real person

[autumn dawn]

there are unique gradiants

and it's a familiar suggestion so i dont think image examples are needed

[cursive salmon]

Oh right there are i lwk forgot

😭

[stuck cloud]

ADD THISSS

[slender hemlock]

how do you even do that with the familiar tenplates

[cursive salmon]

Rationale example

[autumn dawn]

paint.net

[slender hemlock]

im ngl i dont fw lifestock passives

[autumn dawn]

it's unique and doesn't take away from his function too much

it's not a crutch

[stuck cloud]

isnt attack 2 a small line?

[autumn dawn]

yeah

[cursive salmon]

I still stand by what i said though, just don’t take any offence to it 💔

[autumn dawn]

no

[slender hemlock]

yeah its just u either gotta let them leak

or like

[cursive salmon]

Its really not that deep

[autumn dawn]

attack 2 is circle aoe

[slender hemlock]

bring ichigo

[autumn dawn]

rs

[autumn dawn]

nah im just confused why the dude was offended when he posted it in chat

[slender hemlock]

i dont like it cuz they kinda just annoy the user

[autumn dawn]

like ill make my own template if he's not okay with it

[autumn dawn]

fr

ability like

ichigos

[cursive salmon]

Must have forgot that he posted it or it was specifically for Owoflex

[autumn dawn]

would be cool but unrealistic unfortunately

[cursive salmon]

One of the 2

[autumn dawn]

he sent it to you funny

[slender hemlock]

esp since its not permanent

its basically just useless

[cursive salmon]

It was meant for owoflex

Not me

[slender hemlock]

besides the passive

[autumn dawn]

yup

[slender hemlock]

idk idrk what archer does in fate

i assume he has like

a bow

and he shoots arrows

like an archer

get it

[autumn dawn]

basically

but he also has swords

[slender hemlock]

bro why is he named archer

[cursive salmon]

I guess 😭

[slender hemlock]

i hate him now

i hate fate

fate is stupid now

why does the archer have swords

[cursive salmon]

Hes uses the swords as projectiles

[autumn dawn]

characters in fate pertain to classes

[cursive salmon]

Gilgamesh is also an archer

[autumn dawn]

and lancer refers to spears

[slender hemlock]

ok but gilgamesh is blonde

[autumn dawn]

🤔

[slender hemlock]

its like u get a flaw and u get an advantage

[slender hemlock]

he’s blonde and now he gets to have swords

or whatever

[autumn dawn]

@sand beacon do you want me to stop using ur template

[slender hemlock]

i asked him and he said u could

[autumn dawn]

fr?

[slender hemlock]

no

[cursive salmon]

No

[slender hemlock]

im lying to you

[cursive salmon]

💔

[autumn dawn]

i meant fr you asked him

but still no

[slender hemlock]

i dont lie 50% chaos.

😠

[cursive salmon]

Just make a original template

Use that brilliant mind of yours

[slender hemlock]

whys it matter that much

[autumn dawn]

i mean it's just a couple buttons

did you see how i striped it

[slender hemlock]

i think we should all share

[cursive salmon]

It doesn’t

[slender hemlock]

sharing is caring miso beef

come on dood

[cursive salmon]

Ive already dropped all the templatesi made in my suggestions man

Just credit me

[slender hemlock]

i hate you

[autumn dawn]

gradient jumpscare 👻

[cursive salmon]

😭

[slender hemlock]

😡

[cursive salmon]

Ive been robbed in stage suggestions and left to rot

[slender hemlock]

what gappened

[cursive salmon]

I have nothing else to lose besides my massive fate suggestion

[slender hemlock]

ugh whered snoobert go

[slender hemlock]

u made a fate suggestion

❓

[cursive salmon]

Making

[slender hemlock]

god we have enough fate as it is..

[cursive salmon]

Its not gonna get added anyways

[slender hemlock]

are u saying we need a SABER and GILGAMESH double evo.. god i’d HATE that..

hah..

id hate that so bad..

cough,.

hah..

[cursive salmon]

I just find it fun and fun to cope with ithers if my idea will get added or not

[autumn dawn]

i think this guy has monarch gilgamesh

[slender hemlock]

nooo

[autumn dawn]

i can't be sure though

[cursive salmon]

We can leave the fraud gilgamesh to rot

[slender hemlock]

hey

[cursive salmon]

Let me evolve my monarch saber

[slender hemlock]

bring him too

stop

we should include both of them

because theyre both cool

[cursive salmon]

Shut up noob

[slender hemlock]

sigh

[autumn dawn]

only two characters i've made vfam suggestions for are ones i have monarch on

[cursive salmon]

Noooooobbbbb

[autumn dawn]

😭

[slender hemlock]

is this tech

is this techy

[autumn dawn]

this is tech

meta even

[sand beacon]

please credit me next time u do one of these 🙏

[sand beacon]

wdym bro u used my format

[autumn dawn]

i'll make my own but ty twin

i also thought you had just sent it for people to use

since it was just out there

[cursive salmon]

People still usually credit tho no?

Common courtesy

[autumn dawn]

i mean if it was a completely original format then sure but it's nearly identical to the one in game

[sand beacon]

...????

what r we saying vro

[autumn dawn]

i'm not saying anything it's not meant to be rude

i promise

😭

[cursive salmon]

Not entirely wrong, the template is pretty damn similar to the games formatting besides very minor differences

But he still did take your temp you made so

🤷

[sand beacon]

yeah i js dont see how now giving credit related

ykw

I'll post a better template in stage suggestions for people to use

[autumn dawn]

i got it

making one rn

[cursive salmon]

I usually just drop the templates under the suggestion itself

[slender hemlock]

chaos what if you say you made your own but kept it the same and said u took it from av

[cursive salmon]

And say credit me pretty please

[slender hemlock]

thatd be pretty rebellious

[autumn dawn]

indeed

[stuck cloud]

can i credit you

[cursive salmon]

Yes please

[autumn dawn]

do you guys use paint.net?

[cursive salmon]

No

[slender hemlock]

what if i dont credit you

[cursive salmon]

For those who know

[slender hemlock]

annd take your template

[cursive salmon]

Sending a nuke to your location

[slender hemlock]

and i credit myself for taking an hour to make it

[cursive salmon]

😡

[stuck cloud]

im crediting you rn

[cursive salmon]

You saved my life…

Thank you…

[pine spear]

Bruh he only mythic

What hell wrong with u

Huh

Bring lancer on top meta

Although he just only a mythic

[autumn dawn]

lurkers feel free to use without credit

[autumn dawn]

mythics can be good

simply just a rarity

[pine spear]

Huh

Bruh he still good

[autumn dawn]

for support

[pine spear]

For newbie

[autumn dawn]

no noob should get lancer

[pine spear]

Not for og

[autumn dawn]

noobs should get skull knight

best mythic

easy to evolve

[pine spear]

🗿

[autumn dawn]

and progression towards getting guts

[pine spear]

Bruh lancer with 600k dmg

Passive + 175% dmg when attack boss

🗿

[autumn dawn]

+75%

[pine spear]

Ok + 75%

He will break this game

[autumn dawn]

sukuna is already better than him

and does 30% more against bosses with 200k dps

[pine spear]

Atleast he only 300k

Max buff

🗿

+300% dmg for lancer

[autumn dawn]

the number that you see doesn't matter

[pine spear]

Even stun

[autumn dawn]

sukuna has bleed and burn

lancer doesnt...

[pine spear]

Immune exploring

What happend

[autumn dawn]

yeah it's based off his anime abilities

he'd still be worse than sukuna

no nuke and less dps

[pine spear]

Ignore 50% dmg debuff bruh

[autumn dawn]

and his dps only is comparable when attacking one enemy

and even then sukuna still has more dps

do you even understand the kit

he does less damage so many other units

why are you acting like just because the number says 500k it'd be the best in the game

[autumn dawn]

free template

made by me dont have to credit

[cerulean oak]

no, I didn’t even use it

also this should go in #1255566253683380348

(even if it’s just drain’s format and you didn’t credit him at all)

[sand beacon]

the passive box is still ripped 😭

[autumn dawn]

it's not though🤔

[sand beacon]

cancel button definitely is, passive title has the same spacing

[autumn dawn]

it's not though

and i can show you my layers

[sand beacon]

😭 go ahead

[autumn dawn]

🫩making me turn my pc on at 5am

[sand beacon]

nobody made you

chop chop

[autumn dawn]

do you think it's that difficult to make a gradient

[sand beacon]

Are you going to continue making excuses or show me the layers like you said you would?

[autumn dawn]

turning my pc on as i said

weird attitude considering you know i didnt rip the other buttons so why would i rip the passive and cancel

if you want to confirm before my pc turns on

they're horrifically off center because i did them by eyeball

both the passive and cancel button^

[sand beacon]

If you're this reluctant to admit blatant plagiarism I can see why your artist role got stripped

[sand beacon]

Laziness

[autumn dawn]

im booting up rn

[autumn dawn]

i made ts in an hour it's really not that hard

i didnt even have artist role i had community showcase

[sand beacon]

Yet you still managed to rip the cancel button anyways 😭

[autumn dawn]

because i animate r6

[sand beacon]

cool

[autumn dawn]

word u right

nah u right

these layers though

will i get a cool when my pc boots and i send the ss

or nah

[sand beacon]

perchance

mayhaps

find out

[autumn dawn]

still booting my 2019 alienware give it a bit

we in

[sand beacon]

ok

ngl

the cancel button is urs

ignore all previous comments

[autumn dawn]

🫡

[stuck cloud]

@slender mural

can i use your tierlist for a TT viseom

video?

[slender mural]

i mean im fine with it but i am not fighting the comments, also there would need to be credit for breezy and I

[hazy salmon]

send the tierlist im curious

[slender mural]

ok

[craggy maple]

holy w

[stuck cloud]

how would I credit yall

[slender mural]

idk just a caption saying its made by us

[stuck cloud]

made by @apoc and @breezy ?

[slender mural]

sure

[stuck cloud]

bet

[stuck cloud]

i dropped it if you wanna see it check uhhh

snoobert_ I think

tell mw if I need to change anything

[slender mural]

alr thats good

[stuck cloud]

ty

[drifting finch]

shouldnt al have the X mark

[slender mural]

ah i didnt catch that mb

[slender mural]

i completely redid the support and meta support category, and when you move the units around the limited icon doesnt follow so ig i accidentally messed it up

fixed choi + alladin tag

[shy wasp]

it game is not ready for lancer meta again

[hot swan]

#1255566253683380348

[sand beacon]

he's suggestions blacklisted now

you gotta dm him for responses

[hot swan]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-plushies-watermelon-squish-cats-getting-squished-by-watermelon-gif-14346272645866183349

[slender mural]

honestly vegeta was always better than lancer other than support

[slender mural]

lol this is what happens

[sand beacon]

give us more ruptures i beg av

[slender mural]

no they know it is dumb asf

[cursive salmon]

wait actually 😭

for what

[sand beacon]

take a wild guess

[cursive salmon]

aint no shot 😭😭😭😭

[slender mural]

channel misuse

[sand beacon]

😭

[cursive salmon]

oh wow they are actually enforcing rules

no way

[sand beacon]

nah

not for that

[cursive salmon]

i almost can't believe it

[sand beacon]

i made a ticket about the plagiarism thing

🙏

[cursive salmon]

it can never be that deep

[slender mural]

shouldve watermarked it bro

[sand beacon]

i am now on all my new stuff

case 2

[cursive salmon]

that is crazy

[drifting finch]

put one on top left too

[sand beacon]

don't see the point

[slender mural]

mine now

[cursive salmon]

Is this watermarked enough

I think this miso beef guy made it

[slender mural]

make it less transparent

[cursive salmon]

but they HAVE to know

[slender mural]

LESS

[cursive salmon]

i can't afford them missing it

[slender mural]

less transparency

[cursive salmon]

but then its less noticable

[slender mural]

no?

[drifting finch]

thats good

[slender mural]

making it more visible

[cursive salmon]

Like bro i can barley see it in the first image

[slender mural]

yeah

its better now

[cursive salmon]

😭

[slender mural]

wait so he got blacklisted for plagiarism and not channel misuse?

[cursive salmon]

probably the plagirarism thing

[slender mural]

💀

[cerulean oak]

probably plagarism more than anything

[cursive salmon]

yeah it can't be that deep

[cerulean oak]

they dont really care about the suggestion being in the wrong channel THAT much

[slender mural]

make me suggestions mod

[drifting finch]

give me mod and I will enforce all rules btw

[cursive salmon]

yeah i would honestly be suprised if he did get blacklisted for that

just spam ping dirwid ong

[cerulean oak]

@ moderators miso is being mean 🥀

[slender mural]

especially cus ppl post regular suggestions in stage suggestions during upd

[drifting finch]

no

lol

its a lot of those

[cursive salmon]

they should just keep suggestions open

and get the mod to shut down random shit when the update comes out

[sand beacon]

nah MORE

[cursive salmon]

or just let it slide idk

[sand beacon]

some here some there

[slender mural]

yeah, its kind of counterintuitive to think that you should be getting suggestions on an update after majority finished it rather than when it releases

[cursive salmon]

yeah exactly

i know theres some braindead stuff but like

just get a mod to cull it

[sand beacon]

plagiarism was 1 thing and then channel misuse being normally unenforced just got added to it

[drifting finch]

Will they enforce the on topic rule next

like they tried one time

[slender mural]

the excuse is “people dont know what they are talking about, they need time to let the update sink in”

[cursive salmon]

its valid but like only to a very small handful of suggestions

like when 4.0 came out

just a shit ton of people were making suggestions of unit kits

when they knew nothing about them

[hot swan]

place the water mark in passives

[slender mural]

yeah ik its valid, but some dumb people shouldn’t completely halt player feedback

[cursive salmon]

yeah exactly

😭

[slender mural]

like imagine the upd has something that is shit and they dont fix it until 10 days after cus there was no feedback

[sand beacon]

wont that

ruin it

[cursive salmon]

only reason im totally not against opening suggestions right after updates is because i can upvote farm in stage suggestions

when everyone gets funneled there and i just mass bump

[cursive salmon]

noooooooooo

ofc nottt

just trust me bro

[slender mural]

if u put a transparent watermark in the passive template, if people stole it, it would be obvious

[drifting finch]

I disliked yours cause its saber and not my king gilg

[cursive salmon]

😔

Gil kit coming soon

alongside a bunch of other shit

[drifting finch]

k i like it now

[cursive salmon]

my kit was approved by the big gil glazers of the server

i just need to top the other gil vanguard guy

we have beef

[sand beacon]

i doubt people would steal a fade-in template

[lost anvil]

LANCER FAMILIAR YES

BUMP

[drifting finch]

debump

[slender hemlock]

vsjw triple evo

[drifting finch]

soon

[shadow kraken]

i have a shiny lancer

bump

[sand beacon]

goku vanguard... hmm that reminds me of someone...