Shiny Transfer (Between **SAME** Units). All Pros, Zero Cons. WE DID IT!!!

[jolly tulip]

100k ccu after 2 weeks of no update

[agile halo]

and I know the people suggesting this are shiny griffith users too

[jolly tulip]

check berserk logs

they implemented like 4-5 iirc

[dusky onyx]

They only add good suggestions when game is dying

Classic av

[prisma lotus]

I don't think you read it so i'm just gonna repeat myself

[jolly tulip]

i dont feel like it

[prisma lotus]

if the game dies it will be due to other reasons and those reasons will take top priority for implementation and fixing, not a cosmetic transfer feature

[jolly tulip]

[agile halo]

trait pity

When AV seems to be dying, suddenly, the devs add shiny transfer. All of the shiny griffith users run, credit card in hand, ready to buy shiny transfer tokens

and boom, the game is revived

[limpid sparrow]

No

Goku will save av

like always

[prisma lotus]

oh right OUR bad

u right g

[agile halo]

lowering it did

[limpid sparrow]

they lowered it

[agile halo]

do you even play av?

[limpid sparrow]

but it always was

[jolly tulip]

??

[agile halo]

That wasn't around until like 5.5 💀

That was NOT always in the game

[crimson crater]

I think the devs believe shiny transfer means being able to transfer the shiny from sakura to sum like kaguya

which is stupid

[limpid sparrow]

You couldn’t see the pity anyway

lol

[agile halo]

They don't

[jolly tulip]

the guy that asked that question in the stage

is a complete dumbass

[crimson crater]

then why tf would they not add that

?

[jolly tulip]

and he didnt bother to explain it enough

[crimson crater]

shiny transfer dont change shit 🥺

[jolly tulip]

so devs interpreted it as wrong first

but rn they just

[limpid sparrow]

Ngl

[jolly tulip]

deny to add it for some reason

[limpid sparrow]

You have to be a idiot to think this

[crimson crater]

I really cant think of anything else

[dusky onyx]

It doesn't just the devs don't wnna

[crimson crater]

to why they would deny

[dusky onyx]

it's simple man

[crimson crater]

the idea of shiny transfer

[dusky onyx]

They want you to roll on the shiny even if u already have normal monarch

[limpid sparrow]

We don’t know

[dusky onyx]

It's just money

[limpid sparrow]

they didn’t give a reason

[crimson crater]

baka devs 😠

[dusky onyx]

more bundles more money

Easy cashgrab

😜

[jolly tulip]

literally nobody doing this

[prisma lotus]

if shiny transfer is gonna get added, the update where it's most likely to be added is 9.0 anniversary. So depending on what happens then we can all laugh at eachother.

[jolly tulip]

except

[dusky onyx]

i know ppl who did

[jolly tulip]

few whales and youtubers

[crimson crater]

had to roll on 2 💔

[dusky onyx]

so real

[jolly tulip]

you knowing people that did doesnt mean the whole community is doing it

[prisma lotus]

HAD to

[jolly tulip]

trust me if this gets added

[crimson crater]

I HAD TO

[jolly tulip]

they wil learn more money from shiny hunter

than whales spending their robux

[crimson crater]

make shiny transfer cos rrs

simple

heh

[limpid sparrow]

make it cost irl money

[crimson crater]

feeds their greed + our satisfaction

[dusky onyx]

they won't add this bro

Av devs greedy asf

[jolly tulip]

ur either dumb or a whale

[limpid sparrow]

so broke people can’t afford it

[jolly tulip]

to spend 1500 rrs

on a unit u alr have monarch on

[dusky onyx]

Can't blame them tho

[crimson crater]

yeah make shiny transfer cost rrs

[jolly tulip]

no

[limpid sparrow]

irl money

[prisma lotus]

1 time purchase of like 10 moneys vs a group of people who regularly spend hundreds cause of this

[dusky onyx]

Trading coming so shiny might broke tradint

[agile halo]

Let's say a game came out for money and a month later, they made it completely free. Wouldn't you feel scammed for paying money while thinking it was going to always cost money?

[crimson crater]

id rather have that than have no shiny transfer at all

[crimson crater]

?

[prisma lotus]

isnt that just early access

[limpid sparrow]

isnt that just ra

ea*

[dusky onyx]

ppl would trade for shinies man

[agile halo]

no, I mean they literally advertise it as a paid game

and then just suddenly make it free

[crimson crater]

yeah ur point being?

[limpid sparrow]

If they make it free

oh well ig

[dusky onyx]

Bad for economy

[crimson crater]

how?

[real skiff]

I wanna transfer my monarch griffith

[dusky onyx]

I mean if it's only for gem banner it's cool

[prisma lotus]

i dont think the devs care about that, if they did they wouldn't have lowered pity from 2.5k to 1.5k because of people like me who had to spend the whole 2.5k on a unit

[dusky onyx]

But for other units

💀

Cooked

[agile halo]

What about ishtar?

[crimson crater]

why is that a problem exactly

[dusky onyx]

Someone trade me shiny broly

[ancient crypt]

💀

[crimson crater]

shinies will exist anyway

[real skiff]

Dead unit

[limpid sparrow]

no

ishtar vanguard soon btw

[jolly tulip]

this u btw?

[dusky onyx]

Doxxing

[agile halo]

oh yeah, I had someone tell me that 48 tradeable units wasn't enough to have an economy

[dusky onyx]

Zamnn

[crimson crater]

shiny transfer wont depreciate anything

[agile halo]

av players just say anything

[prisma lotus]

post my fit too king ✌️

[limpid sparrow]

not until we get goku limited

[jolly tulip]

get ur evaded ban ass outta here

[limpid sparrow]

goku will free us

[ancient crypt]

economy will mostly be controlled by birbs

[agile halo]

The actual goku unit is only 1/3 Goku

[vernal grotto]

Oh 100%

its not even a most likely

[limpid sparrow]

Which is why we should kill vegeta

[vernal grotto]

Yes

[limpid sparrow]

yes

[agile halo]

but what if someone pulls out a 60% strange cat with 3% range?

[hollow junco]

Birbs gna be botted 😭 💔

[agile halo]

Wait, that isn't possible. More like 55-57.5%

[limpid sparrow]

Godly birb

[dusky onyx]

Yes bro😱

[hollow junco]

All u need is monarch zeke and dedeye aizen and u can afk cid raid squad without numbers 5 mins💔

[agile halo]

You can have 7% for damage, 5% for element, 50% for elements from corruption

[dusky onyx]

if they have esca monarch it's ez

[agile halo]

So 60% is actually possible

[crimson crater]

monarch esca

heh

[hollow junco]

🥀

[crimson crater]

🤤

[prisma lotus]

unfortunately birbs are already oversaturated due to familiar folly event and event shops shiny dandadan units WILL be the main currency

[hollow junco]

U cant skip numbers with esca only mon zeke💔
Or rumbling

[dusky onyx]

So real

[limpid sparrow]

Yea buddy im overpricing diavolo

[agile halo]

Shiny unobtainable secrets will be currency

I honestly think worldlines shinies will be worth a lot

[limpid sparrow]

Yes

I want shiny esdeath

[agile halo]

I might do an infinite today to see if I can get on the leaderboard

[dusky onyx]

no bro😭

[prisma lotus]

shiny esdeath is probably worth the least

[hollow junco]

Which team

[dusky onyx]

some of them got duped

[limpid sparrow]

wouldn’t subaru be?

[dusky onyx]

And ik someone who got 6-7 shiny esdeath

😱😱

[limpid sparrow]

oh

nvm then

[vernal grotto]

Dupped

[jolly tulip]

who are u bro

[vernal grotto]

Iirc

[jolly tulip]

why do you know whales

and dupers

[dusky onyx]

iam him

[prisma lotus]

same

[jolly tulip]

spill those tea boy

[agile halo]

This probably sucks, but I would do vsjw, skull knight, vegito, jin mori, smith, and another random dps

and then I would play martial island

[jolly tulip]

i need that jin mori monarch

shiny****

[agile halo]

I only have monarch on jin mori, goku, and aizen

[hollow junco]

💀

[jolly tulip]

monarch too ig

[hollow junco]

No weather report

[prisma lotus]

duped wl units needs to public knowledge before trading comes out or people are gonna be getting scammed for worthless units

[agile halo]

I don't plan to solo queue

because I'm not that good

[hollow junco]

Oh ok nvm gl then

[warm igloo]

Trailer does not exist, leaks does not exist, update does not exist and anime vanguards is just on ur mind

[agile halo]

thanks

[limpid sparrow]

Yes

[agile halo]

now that I think about it, what is an anime vanguard?

[limpid sparrow]

change av to goku vanguard

[jolly tulip]

remember when they said they will tryna go on schedule for 2 weeks for a 0.5 update

😂

[prisma lotus]

did you just say vanguard? diavolo buff confirmed ig

[limpid sparrow]

They’re making broly whooping vegeta vanguard

it has to be perfect

bc fuck vegeta

[agile halo]

I still think the adventure rarity would be a good addition. We have too many vanguards, so we need a new rarity

[jolly tulip]

cannot be perfect if it doesnt have goku in it

[hollow junco]

When did they say tht

[limpid sparrow]

So true

[agile halo]

Since AA triumphs AV, the rarity should reflect that and be called adventure

Who is with me?

[limpid sparrow]

will goku be featured

[agile halo]

Dio OH is the first adventure rarity

[crimson crater]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/966296208463241216/1200904507056459796/10726.gif

[jolly tulip]

on the 7.0 stage iirc

[prisma lotus]

yea aa is lowke so much better because it actually felt rare seeing uniques and double traits and shiny units and whatnot, we ALL agree on this 🙂

[agile halo]

New crusader rarity

[jolly tulip]

they said they was tryna take 3 weeks for .0 and 2 weeks for a 0.5 upd

[spice bison]

WHAT DO U GUYS KNOW ABOUT ROLLING IN THE DEEP DOWN

[hollow junco]

Shiny transfer isnt being added for the same reason we cant upgrade to godlies
Gatekeeping
💔

[agile halo]

hasn't it already been two weeks since 8.0?

[jolly tulip]

exactly vro

[limpid sparrow]

I got a lot of godlies

[prisma lotus]

ok but godly upgrading is genuinely a horrific idea that has no good way to be implemented unlke shiny transfer

[agile halo]

"Unfortunately, we lied"

[limpid sparrow]

Z+ evolved into godly then they changed it

[agile halo]

We're all going to be crosstrading when trading comes out

[prisma lotus]

it was a bug btw

which i abused

[hollow junco]

An extra 3% stat bump doesnt harm anyone

[agile halo]

"Any decision we regret is a bug"

[prisma lotus]

ok so why does it need to be so common if it doesnt make a difference

[hollow junco]

Its gatekept so u crave it

No gd reason to tho

[limpid sparrow]

ngl

[prisma lotus]

im so tired of this rhetoric of everything that doesnt make a difference to gameplay should be really common and easy to get

[limpid sparrow]

I thought they said that was a feature

[prisma lotus]

like i can just as easily make the opposite argument

[dusky onyx]

Can we lock this chat up🔥

[prisma lotus]

doesnt mean its a good one

[agile halo]

1/16 shiny griffith

[hollow junco]

Godly only stat with an animation
For a reason

[dusky onyx]

devs already confirmed that shiny trandfer ain't coming

[jolly tulip]

no

[agile halo]

that you can get 20 of per day

[limpid sparrow]

We can all agree tho

[jolly tulip]

we dont listen to dupers

[agile halo]

I wouldn't be surprised if someone had 5 shiny griffiths

[prisma lotus]

is it game changing or not? make your mind up

[crimson crater]

people can change their minds yk

[limpid sparrow]

Handcuffs on hard mode was NOT a feature

😭

mf added it

[crimson crater]

"bug"

[dusky onyx]

[hollow junco]

No obv not
But its designed to keep u mindlessly playing

[agile halo]

It does?

[hollow junco]

Yh its like the mythic trait animation

[agile halo]

oh, that

I thought you meant on the unit

[hollow junco]

Omg godly monarch 0.1% escanor

[prisma lotus]

so why would they remove one of the few features in the game that keeps you playing after you've beat all the main update content lol

[hollow junco]

Most viewed av vid on yt

[jolly tulip]

stat chips are easy to get anyway

[golden imp]

Oda spotted instant W suggestion

[agile halo]

I unlocked the 0.005% escanor

[hollow junco]

No one hunting godlies😭
Im jst sayin they shudnt gatekeep it the way it is rn
Monarchs i understand

[low cypress]

the people in this thread & the “bring back gilgamesh w/ vanguard evo” thread hurt my head jfc

[prisma lotus]

bro half of these suggestions are just "make everything easier because i dont have it yet and it doesn't really change the game and i dont want to play the game"

[torpid estuary]

play is a strong word

🥹

[agile halo]

I forgot to adjust for percentages

[hollow junco]

Avg av vid

[ancient crypt]

are you trash talking my goat nag

[jolly tulip]

nobody is playing this game to get godlies

[prisma lotus]

if no ones hunting godlies then no one wants them and there's no reason to make them more common

[hollow junco]

Who

[agile halo]

Escanor is crazy, you don't even have to play the game anymore

Why does this exist?

[ancient crypt]

nagblox

[agile halo]

I can just place escanor down in any portal that doesn't have shields or fire debuffs and I win for free

Why am I getting patrick reacted?

[ancient crypt]

he crashed out in the other q&a

[jolly tulip]

u deserve it

[hollow junco]

3% stat difference y gatekeep it
And its because z+ is easy to get and stat transfer

And u 3x roll on stats

Traits are different

[jolly tulip]

nobody is gatekeeping it

tf

stat chips are free

you do literally nothing and somehow get like 100 of it in 2 days

[ancient crypt]

devs kinda gatekeep godly

[prisma lotus]

3% stat difference y make it as common as getting an epic unit off banner

[hollow junco]

Devs are y u think its 0.1%

[agile halo]

I didn't get my first godly until I already had 3 monarchs

[ancient crypt]

like why can evo not give godly stats

[prisma lotus]

please give me a better argument for this other than "make no difference y gatekeep" PLEASE

[ancient crypt]

for wat

shiny transfer?

[jolly tulip]

you should complain about familiars

[prisma lotus]

monarchs aren't even gatekept since they have pity

[jolly tulip]

not giving u max roll everytime u roll on it then

if you really need that %2 boost godly gives you

[hollow junco]

Trading is the solution and phoinex shards are in events and nightmare bs problem solved

[daring prawn]

it's....peak

[agile halo]

This is what would happen:
People would get a ton of griffiths
Roll s
Evolve to z
Transfer to another
Evolve to z+
Transfer to another
Evolve for a full godly stat unit

[daring prawn]

🥹

[jolly tulip]

trading isnt even added yet

[daring prawn]

you can't evo into a godly

smart guy

LOL

[jolly tulip]

how is it a solution

its still in development

[agile halo]

Read the message 💀

[limpid sparrow]

read

[ancient crypt]

this is not optimal at all and it kills your gold

[hollow junco]

Obv thts y i havent said mk monarchs more obtainable

[prisma lotus]

You can't read smart guy

[daring prawn]

oh wait nvm these guys want godly to be obtainable

[agile halo]

He was asking why evo can't give godly stats goofy

[daring prawn]

yeah nah bro

keep godly how it is

[sharp wind]

gold is so easy

[ancient crypt]

i didn’t know what you were talking about

[daring prawn]

godlies rn are perfect

[sharp wind]

yh

they feel rewarding

[jolly tulip]

im using this all the time vro

[prisma lotus]

replied to the wrong person soz dont crucify me

[jolly tulip]

and i still have more than enough

i use my fodder griffiths to make my stats evolve from s to z

then z+

[sharp wind]

feels 10x better then getting ethereal

[agile halo]

and they aren't even necessary unless you are really competitive

[jolly tulip]

i got like 50 of him

[limpid sparrow]

griffith is deadass free Z+

[hollow junco]

U only need 6 gd birbs
Familiars are like swappable traits

[sharp wind]

it's not the biggest difference

[limpid sparrow]

ngl

[ancient crypt]

they’re not 😭

[jolly tulip]

fr

[agile halo]

If you're not going for top lb spots, you don't need godlies

[prisma lotus]

i meant godly upgrade not shiny transfer. Godly upgrade is genuinely an awful idea unlike shiny transfer which could be implemented in a decent way

[sharp wind]

yet it feels better having a godly unit then an ethereal init

unit

[sharp wind]

yeah

godly upgrade would js inflate it

[daring prawn]

it's like one godly per 200 stat chips it is rewarding

[jolly tulip]

i will probs not need any z+ for like 3-4 updates

i got so many of em

[daring prawn]

also you get tons of stat chips from js playing so

[jolly tulip]

from the griffs i got

[daring prawn]

i think it's fairs

[ancient crypt]

i think you should be able to evolve Z+ into godly 🤷‍♂️

[hollow junco]

Exactly my point
They mk u feel better
Even tho its a 3% stat improvement

[sharp wind]

used to be the case

[sharp wind]

They also look way cooler

[ancient crypt]

yea but changed for no reason

[daring prawn]

3% is a lot on a damage stat for a monarch unit

[sharp wind]

cause godlys areeant to be rare

[daring prawn]

what are you saying

[hollow junco]

Exactly my point gatekept to mk u feel cool
Same way shinies are

[sharp wind]

it's more on a non monarch then a monarch unit

[jolly tulip]

not really

[prisma lotus]

I think not every person needs every unit in the game shiny monarch full godly but hey that's just me

[jolly tulip]

it isnt life changing

[sharp wind]

99% sure godlys are based off base dmg then monarch dmg

[daring prawn]

it's pretty good

[ancient crypt]

sounds fire to me

[agile halo]

I think you shouldn't

[ancient crypt]

i have 2 monarchs with full godly stats

[prisma lotus]

just remove shinies and godlies atp

[agile halo]

Anyone with a lot griffiths and millions of gold could get like 100 godly stats in an hour

[sharp wind]

i have like 20 godly stats altogether

[hollow junco]

Game isnt tht competitive to mk it matter

[sharp wind]

from my entire playtime

godlys feel rare

[hollow junco]

If it was tds different story

[daring prawn]

i dunno i think tournaments are pretty compy

[jolly tulip]

is tds even doing good rn

i played it back then when it had that fnaf update

with purple guy warden skin as a reward the event was rlly hard

[hollow junco]

Tournaments decided by lag not godly stats icl💔

[sharp wind]

you don't need godly stats for tourney 😭

[hollow junco]

Hardcore solo when jester came out🙏

[daring prawn]

erm

[sharp wind]

It's way more off timings

[jolly tulip]

it probably only matters on like wl

traits

[daring prawn]

you guys ever gone for #1 place on tourneys?

def matters

[sharp wind]

yh

[daring prawn]

did you get #1?

[sharp wind]

i have

[jolly tulip]

that accelerator grind was horrendous bc i didnt have good units

i had to reset on wave 14

everytime with little currency

[agile halo]

I was on pace for number 1 in my tournament and I disconnected

[daring prawn]

why didn't you just do it again then

[sharp wind]

3% is based off base dmg not monarch

[prisma lotus]

i dont think godly stat difference is significant, and i dont think it needs to be easily obtainable rather than luck based. Maybe hot take but it's not bad to have rare flexy things in a game thats soon to have a trading economy

[agile halo]

I was getting bored because that was like my 5th run, so I might do another one today

[sharp wind]

Yeah

godly stats are gonna be decent for trading

[jolly tulip]

SSS stats were worth alot on aa

but it was way harder to get than in av

[daring prawn]

not rlly

[agile halo]

3% more than 7.98 is 8.22, but I'm not sure if it would actually work like that in practice with the enemy spawn rates

[daring prawn]

you could evo into a SSS

can't evo into a godly

[jolly tulip]

this was a very unlikely occurence

[agile halo]

but I would definitely have at least 8 billion

[daring prawn]

more people play AV

[hollow junco]

Yh

[jolly tulip]

i played for 10-11 updates

and i only got like 2 sss stats

[agile halo]

The person at first in my tournament has 8.049 while second has 8.048. I'm not making this up

So godlies can actually make a difference

[daring prawn]

i played for a lot of updates and had like 7 SSS stats i just would spam evo on my battlepass units

too bad the game is dead now

[prisma lotus]

you could also evo and not get any stat boost, unlike av

[agile halo]

AA had the most questionable qol

[daring prawn]

never heard of not getting any stat boost in AA

[agile halo]

bruh, I can't spell

[daring prawn]

at least one of my stats always rose

[jolly tulip]

thats a you problem i think

ur too lucky on stats

[agile halo]

It was definitely possible

I only had one sss stat

[jolly tulip]

i had alot too

[agile halo]

and I traded it

[jolly tulip]

i just never got SSS really

except those two times

i had a shit ton of SS tho

[prisma lotus]

as shit as aa was, things had actual trading value in that game. I don't see that being the case for this game bar extremely old lb and limited units that existed pre pity and shiny boost events

[agile halo]

Oh, they got passed

[icy prawn]

ay ay

[agile halo]

it was 1 and 2 before

[icy prawn]

be be

see see

[daring prawn]

stuff had value in aa cause it was a large gap between the good players and the okay ones

people would monopolize tournament units

was a pay to win game

[jolly tulip]

i liked aa trading

[daring prawn]

and also way less people played aa than av

by default stuff is going to be more rare

[jolly tulip]

way less

is kinda a stretch

[prisma lotus]

that and the ridiculous unreasonable grinds for secret units twice or 4x the rarity of a vanguard with no pity. It was shit but it made the trading economy thrive even though I myself hated it

[jolly tulip]

they were doing very good

in their state

[daring prawn]

when the game was out for it's first stretch it was 50k - 70k on updates

[jolly tulip]

especially after berserk upd

[hollow junco]

Shinies w 5% dmg boost in aa😭 💀

[daring prawn]

after it got rereleased it was a diff story ig

[jolly tulip]

things started going uphill

[prisma lotus]

obviously av can't do stuff like that but you can't deny the state of the trading economy for this game is gonna be questionable once it gets added

[jolly tulip]

i aint talkin bout rerelease

that shit was horrid

[hollow junco]

Birb botfarms🙏

[daring prawn]

trading economy was thriving for only the wealthiest players idk how to explain it

[prisma lotus]

I thought it was just increased double trait chances?

[jolly tulip]

berserk upd up until that last naruto upd was its peak

for me

[agile halo]

I saw someone with 1300 cid act 2 completions

[daring prawn]

like the server did a lot to market trading but i barely traded in that game

[agile halo]

you can just place escanor now and win

[hollow junco]

Nah shinies got dmg boost in aa

[daring prawn]

i quit when they added vegito it js didn't sit well with me

double unique havers

[hollow junco]

Avg

[daring prawn]

it's a shame....

[jolly tulip]

that was crazy

[daring prawn]

well i quit like 3 different times in AA im ngl

[agile halo]

I have like 14

[jolly tulip]

up until that time i dont remember anyone had gotten lucky enough to get a double unique i think

i saw unique divine

[prisma lotus]

i mean that's just trading and value in general works, you need to have a disparity between players for things to have a considerable gap in value

[jolly tulip]

its kinda crazy

[agile halo]

wait, I have 7 completions lol

[prisma lotus]

neither rlly

[jolly tulip]

also yall gotta realize just the cosmetics alone can make or break an units value

it was like that for aa

better the cosmetic higher the value

most of the time

[agile halo]

AA honestly has better cosmetics than av

[limpid sparrow]

remember the astd scammers

[agile halo]

A lot of the cosmetics on this game don't even work like how they should

[limpid sparrow]

💀

[jolly tulip]

i agree

[daring prawn]

i guess so yeah i just am wondering what happened to players being okay with the grind of units that would be valuable. in aa there was little to no complaints from the actual player base when summer or winter events went on (minus that horrendous aizen grind). in this game it's like whenever they release units that will be in high demand in the future players genuinely start to tweak cause THEY can't have it

[agile halo]

I saw someone with shiny cid and they didn't even get the white outfit

Why would someone want the black outfit if they got shiny cid?

[jolly tulip]

i always rocked the power cosmetic in aa

[daring prawn]

the best and worst part of this game is probably the qol cause on one end it makes everyone's td life easier but it's facilitating an environment that is like almost certainly going to change if we complain enough

[jolly tulip]

it was so peak

[agile halo]

It felt like the aa cosmetics were intentional. AV cosmetics just feel like they copied some of the files and put them as cosmetics

Smith's cosmetics just don't work at all

besides the full unit one

[daring prawn]

vanguard pity is cool and all but it lowkey makes it so that i NEED to get a shiny vanguard if i want it to have any value in the future

it's a dilemma

[prisma lotus]

lowke going kinda deep here but i think it's just due to the attention span of most people being nonexistant now, that and the success als had which changed how people look at td games a lot

[daring prawn]

holy als brain melt

[jolly tulip]

als has officially died

brandon quit als

[daring prawn]

irreplicable damage on the td game community

[agile halo]

you only get pity once, so it will have value

[prisma lotus]

damn really?

[jolly tulip]

yep

[prisma lotus]

wow

[jolly tulip]

new owner

[agile halo]

oh

nvm

I thought you meant the shiny will have no value

Yeah, normal escanor is worthless

[jolly tulip]

players that start in upd 10

[prisma lotus]

ngl I could never forgive brandon after he bought out aws2 and completely destroyed it, idk if anyone here ever played that game

[jolly tulip]

will have a demand for it

js because we have alot of em rn dont mean they will be 0 value

[limpid sparrow]

Brandon should lowkey buy anime cross 2

[jolly tulip]

this is prob the case for anything thats not a vanguard tho

[daring prawn]

brandon needs to put his credit card back into his wallet

he has the black thumb on td games

[jolly tulip]

he revived most of the games he bought

als was on a good run

[daring prawn]

i dunno if that's the word i would use

[jolly tulip]

arx is doing better than ever

[agile halo]

Chrollo is the green thumb

[jolly tulip]

he couldnt revive als for the 4th time tho

[agile halo]

He can add lucky spins to av

[jolly tulip]

😂

[daring prawn]

he buys games and makes them all read as continuations of one another

[jolly tulip]

he also bought afs but

i doubt he'll be able to revive it

[agile halo]

Lucky spins: 5% mythic, 1% alucard

94% legendary

[daring prawn]

bro who is chrollo

[agile halo]

chrollo might need to buy av

[agile halo]

he made blue lock rivals

[daring prawn]

blue lock rivals prob the worst blue lock game ive played on roblox

[limpid sparrow]

dont say his name

[daring prawn]

do not let him cook

[prisma lotus]

im ngl when trading comes out there's gonna be heavy elitism and value disparity with old players who got old and rare limiteds like diavolo, shiny dandadan units, old tournament and lb units etc. Everything is so easy to obtain now with pities and 2x shiny event that it's not gonna be able to get near the value of those old units ever again.

[agile halo]

Chrll

[daring prawn]

all of his sports games are actually so trash

[agile halo]

oh

[daring prawn]

the ball just sticks to your feet

or to your hands

[agile halo]

I tried to censor the o's, but it italicizes them

[daring prawn]

there's no interactiveness

[daring prawn]

yeah that's what im saying

[limpid sparrow]

Bro made a haikyuu game and it felt more like tennis

[agile halo]

I heard vb0 was trash

Did he scrap it?

[sharp wind]

I sacrificed my rengoku to the red key

[agile halo]

I haven't heard of it since

[daring prawn]

he made a basketball game and it feels like blue lock : kuroko

[prisma lotus]

[daring prawn]

genuinely the worst experience ever

[prisma lotus]

thats on you bro

[agile halo]

why did you do this?

[sharp wind]

I know

[agile halo]

I got like 200 exclusives trying to get escanor

[sharp wind]

I was in the trenches

[limpid sparrow]

bruh

💀

[agile halo]

Worst av choice

[limpid sparrow]

how many did you have

[sharp wind]

1

[limpid sparrow]

wow

[sharp wind]

lmfao

[daring prawn]

luce might have decent value

[limpid sparrow]

ik rengoku is ass but damn bro

[daring prawn]

well idk about anymore

the witch crept her

[sharp wind]

witch beats her up

[agile halo]

She used to be op in the sjw dungeon

You could just use full aoe units and not worry about resilient

[daring prawn]

genuienly hate that they did that

[prisma lotus]

yea but tachyon mogs

[agile halo]

Gogeta gets power crept every day

[sharp wind]

I used to carry ant king dungeons w Aizen deadeye

[daring prawn]

the only units i have that will even be semi valuable are 2 dios 2 shiny mimi and 1 shiny okarun it's so tragic no patek

[jolly tulip]

tbh they need to lock in more on unit cosmetics so they can have actual value even if theres alot of them

[sharp wind]

one of the best status effects locked behind battlepass is stupid

[jolly tulip]

if aa could do it 2 years ago av definitely can

[agile halo]

"Gogeta has instant transmission? Let's make kaguya move passively, buff every unit, and nuke the map"

"Gogeta can make a clone? Jin Mori obviously upscales, so let's give him 3 clones"

[daring prawn]

"gogeta has a clone? let me make thsi worldline unit have 3 and gain damage every time one is placed"

yes bro

[agile halo]

same idea lol

[daring prawn]

dude i got gogeta as my first monarch

and was so mad when jin mori came out

[hollow junco]

Gogeta getting bullied😭

[daring prawn]

i had to get monarch on jin mori too

[prisma lotus]

yea lowke some of the shiny cosmetics are just pure trash, like shiny cid looks so cool and his cosmetic is just normal cid

[agile halo]

Smith has the best cosmetics in the game

[jolly tulip]

shiny cid cosmetic needa be for the normal one

[daring prawn]

this is deadass power creep oat

[agile halo]

For the animation, you get: nothing
The model is: nothing
For the effects, you have: nothing

[jolly tulip]

and also we need to be able to set which unit we want as the cosmetic for example john smith or lord of shadows

[agile halo]

and the fact that you can hear the smith anvil while trying to place him is so annoying

[sharp wind]

both are based off monkeys and ones ten times better

only thing gogeta has better then wukong is the cone

[agile halo]

how did none of the testers realize that?

[sharp wind]

and the tp

[jolly tulip]

if i could use shiny lord of shadows i would

[daring prawn]

bro i am the monkey king...

all my monarchs are monkeys

[prisma lotus]

and also the p2w skins feel really lazy with the cosmetics, they usually just paste the skin over your avatar and it literally always clips through your skin and looks terrible

[daring prawn]

[sharp wind]

3 monkey based monarchs are insane

[prisma lotus]

like is that not kinda insane for a skin that sets you back 100?

[sharp wind]

ig Zeke still has the best ability in the game for dps

[daring prawn]

might be 4 if broly is vanguard....

[jolly tulip]

he is

dont trust the vegeta propaganda

[prisma lotus]

where are we getting these rrs

[jolly tulip]

they are delusional

[daring prawn]

i would tell you the method but it's too powerful

[prisma lotus]

[warm igloo]

Save some for dio fr

[daring prawn]

bro im genuinely not hyped at all for dio over heaven

i hope they do him dirt and make him a double evo of the other dio

og player only

✌️

50th td game to do dio over heaven

he's barely even canon bro

[prisma lotus]

im kinda hyped for him cause every game that adds him just makes him rlly lazy with timestop and big dmg. Av usually makes cool passives so hopefully they cook up something unique

[warm igloo]

Yep av boutta cook good

[prisma lotus]

i wanted reinhardt or wally west to win the vote more though

[warm igloo]

W him

[daring prawn]

yeah i agree that it's good that av adds it but i don't agree cause i dont want him

💔

i voted wally west on 3 different accounts

just

just....

just give me my speed monarch

[warm igloo]

I mean i wanted tooru but they did removed him from pool

[jolly tulip]

reinhard needs to be a vanguard

[warm igloo]

Not sure why

[jolly tulip]

and kurumi

[daring prawn]

the monarch of motion would have been the best name in the game bro you can't lie

[prisma lotus]

give me pucci or wally west and i'll be happy

[jolly tulip]

idk i dont care abt kurumi

dio was the best choice by far

[warm igloo]

Tooru was the best

Second most voted

[prisma lotus]

reinhardt had so much potential

[agile halo]

What if they just made a double vanguard update? They already glaze db. We have 4 db monarchs because we have Goget,a and then 7ds, Solo leveling, and Naruto are dbz lones. What harm could adding 2 more db vanguards do?

[jolly tulip]

he'd be wasted potential

as a secret

imo

[prisma lotus]

true

[jolly tulip]

he needs to be a vnaguard with 15 diff passives

[prisma lotus]

back then I thought it'd be a vanguard unit though tbh

[dreamy kettle]

Oh hey heres the 100+ blessings

that only apply when HE is attacked

or in specific situations

[jolly tulip]

av

would cook so hard

on reinhard passives

you dont even know

[dreamy kettle]

Same goes for TWOH

[jolly tulip]

we will get 500 blessings

[dreamy kettle]

They can literally do anything with him

[prisma lotus]

has every passive in the game but also has the "Reinhard Law" passive that makes it so you cant use him outside of namek act 1

[agile halo]

and then Vegito is a vanguard level unit, so that's 5 db vanguards already in the game

[dreamy kettle]

Since his power is altering reality by will

[jolly tulip]

he is nt

[prisma lotus]

vegito kinda ass

[agile halo]

I mean transformation vegito

[jolly tulip]

why is anime crusaders so easy bro

[limpid sparrow]

make it 7

[jolly tulip]

i pulled a mythic goku from banner

and im almost done w the story

[limpid sparrow]

we giving goku 2 vanguards

[jolly tulip]

goku is getting his mui

[prisma lotus]

i gave up after i used all the codes on my 15 alts and didnt get crusader

[jolly tulip]

in 3 years

[jolly tulip]

u need to be level 10 to use codes no?

it didnt work for me

[prisma lotus]

na

well

when i played u didnt anyway

[agile halo]

and we have Invincible vs Conquest. Viltrumites obviosuly copied Saiyans, and since the unit has two characters, that's 7 db vanguards

[prisma lotus]

maybe the new codes have lvl requirement

[jolly tulip]

ye they do

im level 9

[prisma lotus]

alr buddy we reaching now..

[jolly tulip]

time to get crusader on this boy

if i get crusader im not playing av until upd

[prisma lotus]

ngl i think i might be due a break on av after 9.0 anni

starting to feel the burnout again

[jolly tulip]

i didnt play for the whole duration of 7.0

[prisma lotus]

i dont think i bothered with anything from that update until 7.5 where i needed rumbling strat for tourneys

[agile halo]

most tournaments are winnable without rumbling now

[full abyss]

fr they acting like i want to transfer shiny sakura to my escanor or sum

[flat zodiac]

we've been asking, it aint gonna happen 💔

[ancient crypt]

300 upvotes

we need that shiny transfer

[digital edge]

What, that you can hear smith while going to place him?

We did, it's not a big deal

It might've been reported already, but it's low if anything

[limpid sparrow]

I found a big bug

[digital edge]

also gogeta>jin mori, imma be real. I'd use gogeta way more than wukong

[frozen geyser]

?

[frozen geyser]

mfs say this and dont understand how economies actually work

then they say "ok but uhhh... economy!" when it doesnt affect the economy

js typin shit

bro i literally just said the best way to implement it

Tell me how it ruins the economy
Tell me how it ruins the value of shinies

Tell me

[dreamy kettle]

He think shiny transfer will kill their value

let him dream

[frozen geyser]

Okay so bro doesnt know how to read then cuz I debunked this arguement about 10 times already

[frozen geyser]

Like genuinely give that guy an IQ test and it wont be higher than 70

There doesnt need to be a massive drawback. There doesnt need to be some "transfer tokens"

there doesnt need to be tokens for anything js to transfer a cosmetic onto another unit

guys! how ab erm... we do skin tokens!! 🤓

like what?

It's not duplicating the unit, it's not raising or lowering the shiny economy nor increasing its value

[frozen geyser]

I give you a potato, you give me a tomato. Did the fucking economy for tomatos and potatos rise or lower?

no it stayed the same

[lost totem]

but what if I had no tomatoes

[frozen geyser]

get the tomato the same way you did with the potato!!!!

duh!

[lost totem]

But what if I had no potato

[frozen geyser]

start farmin for potatos 😏

potatos = coins
tomato = shiny

[lost totem]

hmmmm

[lost totem]

This is why it would destroy the economy

[frozen geyser]

you might be cookin!

[lost totem]

[frozen geyser]

I get a golden banana...

Golden Banana looks aesthetically better than my normal banana...

but my normal banana has everything on it...

i take the golden banana peel off, and put it on my normal banana

then the golden banana becomes a normal banana, since its no longer golden

now my NORMAL BANANA IS GOLDEN

I still keep the same amount of bananas overall, but i still have ONE golden banana, which is my normal banana.

💡

[digital edge]

Jin mori glaze is overrated

[lost totem]

He’s expensive as well Gogeta is expensive but I can just leave him on his low spa upgrade and he still performs so well

[digital edge]

Gogeta got the occasional slow, very good early game with the TP

[quick umbra]

hello

[digital edge]

lets you funnel a lot more into farming

[quick umbra]

i have a question

[lost totem]

1200 ti place with multi hit

[quick umbra]

its about

pvp

will they fix queue?

[void tiger]

why are testers ragebaiting

[digital edge]

It aint ragebait

it's just fact

[digital edge]

also

last I knew it was a work in progress

[quick umbra]

oh

ok

thank u

i like doing pvp for the rerolls but its hard because the queue is broken alot of the time

[quick umbra]

do you agree with shiny transfer

[digital edge]

I do

Not with trait transfer, but I do with shiny transfer

Unfortunately it's not in our power at all

[quick umbra]

do u have any ida why they wont add it

[digital edge]

Nope

[quick umbra]

it doesnt really affect me because i only roll on units if theyre shiny but i want t oknow why

[clever steppe]

nether is actually making shiny transfer

[digital edge]

We don't have any reasons either

[digital edge]

it's true

[quick umbra]

aw

[digital edge]

I've been coding it in in the background

[clever steppe]

and another odyssey rework

[digital edge]

right alongside my odyssey rework

That mode is so scuffed man

[quick umbra]

have you been able to test a unit

fr the update yet

[digital edge]

Yes

[quick umbra]

was he cool

[digital edge]

Yes

[quick umbra]

[lost totem]

Did you see the rewards from the 72 hour run someone did?

[digital edge]

I think so

rn my new rework draft revolves around longer stages where you ramp/earn mid-stage

Rather than the repetitive 15 wave

Although I think a save feature would be the biggest help

[lost totem]

Why not add modifiers that can influence rewards

[digital edge]

Because they don't want people trying to minmax to get those modifiers

Those become the de-facto "reset until you get this" goal

[lost totem]

no I mean like how Als does it

before you go in you pick curses

[digital edge]

So

[lost totem]

One could be removing traits

[digital edge]

Funny thing is, that's kinda what I have drafted. Not pre-game stuff but

[lost totem]

and ban the aot units

[digital edge]

I don't wanna go too much into detail

[lost totem]

no more rumbling

[quick umbra]

baskin robins

[lost totem]

BAN THEM

[quick umbra]

why its not like its happening #loser..

[lost totem]

ok nice

[quick umbra]

odyssey NEVER being touched again.

[lost totem]

That’s literally the odyssey guy you’re speaking to

[quick umbra]

odyssey is for dumb idiots

😡

[lost totem]

they are the main person who manages the graveyard that is odyssey

[digital edge]

It has potential to be fun, it's just that the formula they originally wanted doesn't fit well in the TD formula and end up being fun to play

[quick umbra]

the soldier who thought for 10 more years

fought8

omg

[clever steppe]

thought

[lost totem]

Multiplier

Multiplayer would be fun

[quick umbra]

😡

[digital edge]

It's why I dislike limitless and its skip wave feature so much

[digital edge]

That's another one, yeah

[clever steppe]

everyone love skip waves

[quick umbra]

well then maybe ur forced to play with other ppl to get max rewards

and i dont like that

[clever steppe]

multiplayer sucks

[quick umbra]

it doesnt suck

[lost totem]

optional

[quick umbra]

its just all my friends are bunz

[digital edge]

fun fact, original limitless was skip wave and you carried over excess yen between stages

[lost totem]

You can always sit a 0 intensity and farm modifiers

[digital edge]

It was so boring

You'd just max all your farms wave 0 after the first stage

[lost totem]

Odyssey rn is even more boring

[digital edge]

And it was just so tedious

[quick umbra]

maybe two separate things where solo has solo scaling and any multiplayer has the same scaling

[clever steppe]

and randoms are stupid

[quick umbra]

we should keep limitless

[lost totem]

The runs just need to not take hours for mediocre rewards

[lost totem]

I know what kind of man you are

[quick umbra]

no its not for gems

its for evnets

[lost totem]

[lost totem]

🥭 🫵

Guilty

[quick umbra]

i have like

5 gems

[digital edge]

odyssey also needs some solution to the scaling/how to combat it

[quick umbra]

dude if they made odyssey have a shop where you could also buy temporary events

thatd be

#pretty sick

[clever steppe]

odyssey was created to make ragna meta

[digital edge]

because you get to the point where enemy hp display is at the limit, but HP is way higher, and the only way to really abuse it and win is boxing glove spam

[lost totem]

How about a mode where you build up to a final boss then it’s over

you could have dr zomboss spin the slot machines and decide what you face

[digital edge]

I kinda wanted that with the boss room idea

[quick umbra]

plsplspspslpslpsspsplspls i dont want to wait a month for familiar folly and shiny rates plsplsplsplsplsplsplspls

[digital edge]

But it would give you the option to cash out or to do a sort of loop

[lost totem]

You ever play pvz? Or garden warfare?

[lost totem]

Once you add a loop there’s justification for longer runs and we know where that goes

[quick umbra]

what if odyssey is like 4 maps in a pool and then the final boss is every single boss combined into a single mob

[lost totem]

72 hour run for god awful rewards

[quick umbra]

and the final map

is like

a combination of all the maps

cuz odyssey is

an adventure right

so u like adventure around different animes

[digital edge]

My idea was more like Isaac Reruns

[lost totem]

Bring in dr zomboss to spin and decide your final fate

[lost totem]

binding of Isaac?

[digital edge]

yeah

[lost totem]

I’ve never played idk how it works

[digital edge]

for the whole looping idea

It just starts you from floor 1 again, but you start right at taking full hearts of damage

after a couple reruns, you become the Lost, so you have no health

[lost totem]

oh so it limits you alr

[digital edge]

The idea was to just make it progressively more difficult on you the more you looped

[quick umbra]

dude did u play

like

the shooter game

[uncut flint]

How descriptive

[quick umbra]

my brother used to play with me on i think xbox

[lost totem]

So new game+

what about a mode where you go through each update

[uncut flint]

The inf in gw was pretty tuff ngl

[lost totem]

You fight what each update had for content and you can only use units from that specific update

Traitless

[quick umbra]

OMG

THAT WAS WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO

smart brains thin ksmart

smart brains think alike

❤️

[lost totem]

Dr zomboss eats brains

[uncut flint]

Everybody gangsta til u have to kil a 3m health sasori with naruto units

[ancient crypt]

kaguya

[lost totem]

I mean with old update scalings as well

[quick umbra]

tbh i dont think it should be traitless

[uncut flint]

Good one

[quick umbra]

i think odyssey has the potential to be a real endgame gamemode

and it should be since its the main way to farm pheonix shards

and since birbs will dominate trading

thennn

[lost totem]

Rolling monarch on a Naruto unit would be tragic

when you just want a little blitz

[quick umbra]

yeah but it makes useless monarchs

viable

in odyssey

[lost totem]

I mean if we go by old scaling there’s no need for traits

You could just run the units p traitless or traited

[quick umbra]

well we dont want everyone being able to farm godroll birbs just bc of trading

thats the one thing

[lost totem]

Making familiars traceable is just justification to make getting good birbs unbearable

They could just not add trading and make it not miserable

[quick umbra]

still thats how its gonna be

it shouldnt be easy to get because of the fact trading will be added

thats just how it is unfortunately

[lost totem]

If only they didn’t add familiar trading

then everyone wouldn’t have to suffer

[kind ibex]

the thing odyssey need most rn is save

[quick umbra]

nah thats

more haelthy

than having it not be

[kind ibex]

you get nothing if you dc after hours

[quick umbra]

since most units arent valuable at all besides the top vanguards and lb units

[lost totem]

Yeah it’s healthier bc the only people who can get good birbs use software to afk farm them overnight

very healthy

normal players can then suffer or trade with them

[quick umbra]

den make it not afkable 😡

[lost totem]

With these new events though getting Phoenix shards isn’t really a problem

it just makes odyssey once again worthless

no point in playing it it’s not fun and gives horrible rewards for your time

[quick umbra]

yeah but we can make odyssey worth it

and not afkable

[lost totem]

Maybe delete odyssey

[lost totem]

You can’t because trading

you said that earlier

Holy autocorrect this is

[quick umbra]

we can

it just has to be hard

so godroll birds arent murdered

[lost totem]

Remember what happens to the ccu when they try to lock things behind harder content

[quick umbra]

endgame content its to be #expected

[lost totem]

I hope so

I hope it doesn’t kill the game again if they try adding harder content

[quick umbra]

its just the content hasnt been worth to do

[prisma lotus]

2 guys glazin eachother and getting enraged at something i never said

w thread honestly

[frozen geyser]

ok bro js say you’re an idiot and you don’t understand it

simple

[frozen geyser]

you know your a gatekeeper, js embrace it

no point in playing dumb

[prisma lotus]

stop being so emotional over a lego anime game lol

[frozen geyser]

👍

have a nice night brotato

[prisma lotus]

you too bud

[dusky onyx]

keep dreaming man

a man can dream

[limpid sparrow]

Do I look cool

[frozen geyser]

no

[frozen geyser]

B

[lavish lynx]

Bump

[frozen geyser]

b

[indigo quarry]

bump

[frozen geyser]

We Saiyans have no limits.

[brittle zenith]

i made one abt trait transfer between same units cuz they said they'd NEVER add shiny transfer all these devs can do is make us hate the game more and more

[stuck adder]

SORRY BUT IM NUMBER ONE

WE LOVE YOU PYSEPH

[brittle zenith]

we dont 101%

[stuck adder]

but starkk

[timber aspen]

this WILL be added and we WILL be getting this TOMORROW

[frozen geyser]

Surprise QOL drop

[jolly tulip]

if its not tmrw im crashing out ong

[brittle zenith]

they said never for it last stage

im yet to understand why they'd never add it

[frozen geyser]

Please Pyseph, please

[dreamy kettle]

Watch it be some random ass thing that nobody ever asked for

[frozen geyser]

They said it INSANE

so

have hopium

[timber aspen]

ITS NOT COPE ITS HOPE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🥀

[stuck adder]

HOPIUM

[digital edge]

It's cope

[stray orchid]

although i want this suggestion, the whole post is cope

[limpid sparrow]

slay girl

[ancient crypt]

its an educated wish

[stuck adder]

what if they didn't even tell the testers as a surprise (super duper cope)

[digital edge]

Then that would be horrible because that means it never got tested

[stuck adder]

that's why it's super duper cope

but yeah that would be awful cuz there would def be dupe bugs or something on release

[limpid sparrow]

This yall last chance

and last hope

[swift wren]

On your soul we getting this

Your soul alone

[limpid sparrow]

no

On my soul it’s coming

Put all of your hope into me

If it don’t get rid of my data and ban me

[stray orchid]

i tested it dw

[frozen geyser]

but that means you’re in on it. How do we know you’re not lying to kill the hopium 🤨

[timber aspen]

woah lets slow down man

[swift wren]

No

[quick umbra]

yk how pyseph commented in this suggestion

that means