Shiny Transfer (Between **SAME** Units). All Pros, Zero Cons. WE DID IT!!!

[sharp wind]

I want a vsjw familiar soon

he needs a 200% dmg buff

and -30% spa

[quick umbra]

yes

yes

[sharp wind]

and follow ups each time a summon dies in his range

[low cypress]

vanguard familiars my behated

[quick umbra]

shut up

[sharp wind]

why

[low cypress]

awesome concepts, boring ass implementation thus far

[quick umbra]

brayisstupid with another stupid take

[terse plume]

stop being mean

to bray

ok?

[sharp wind]

🤔

🤔🤔🤔

[quick umbra]

he pisses me off.

[low cypress]

thank you for your support youngthug (@KingThugHunterK)

[sharp wind]

bray

[terse plume]

As a wise man once said, "if he piss you off stop calling him dum dum"

[sharp wind]

we need a brayisstupid familiar

[low cypress]

true

[sharp wind]

so he becomes brayislessstupid

[quick umbra]

bro likes the horse racing game

[low cypress]

brayissmart

[terse plume]

bruh waht do horse do except race

[low cypress]

brayknowscalculus

[sharp wind]

so guys let's say I leak something I'm not supposed too

[quick umbra]

move

[sharp wind]

What's the punishment

[terse plume]

change boss event rerolls back to 60 I DONT CARE IF IM GREEDY

[quick umbra]

i was such a sleepy lady yesterday

16 hours

[low cypress]

post and delete immediately

clearly

[sharp wind]

yeah but it should rotate every 3 weeks again

[quick umbra]

😍😍

[low cypress]

have you ever leaked with your life on the line

[terse plume]

Nah it rotates when i want it to

[sharp wind]

then I get banned

I don't wanna get banned

[terse plume]

when im done with getting all rr ill rotate it

[quick umbra]

bros leaky

bro pees

🤣🤣

[low cypress]

piss nuke

[sharp wind]

interesting

[terse plume]

topatwinkbeforestoppingtothink

what this mean

[low cypress]

piss nuke tutorial

[keen wyvern]

thank you goat

[quick umbra]

brooo stoppp

[sharp wind]

so like

you know what a

uouvknwo

you know

[terse plume]

Yeah yeah

i know

[quick umbra]

ugh theyre so hot

unfortunately he left me

#sigh

#vent

[terse plume]

good

[quick umbra]

#sad

[terse plume]

#dumdum

[sharp wind]

I'm trying to find a good image to send

[quick umbra]

bros listening to thank u next

[sharp wind]

But I can't find

[quick umbra]

🤣🤣

[terse plume]

Bro

[terse plume]

Ok and noob

[terse plume]

dum dum

Ok and dum dum

[sharp wind]

thank you, next

thank you next,

[sharp wind]

im so freaking grateful for my ex..

[terse plume]

stop fanning over me im getting shy and blushing

😊

[quick umbra]

yeah sorry bro im not a fan

[terse plume]

No no you can keep fanning

dont be afraid i called you out

[sharp wind]

why can't I send gifs

i had the perfect gif for this

but i can't

[terse plume]

make a makeshift gif

[quick umbra]

take a ss of it

[terse plume]

dum dum

[quick umbra]

sorry i dont like u bro

[sharp wind]

but it's a video

thing

it's fine

[terse plume]

Keep replying to my message and fanning over me #KlarisIsADumDum

[quick umbra]

ur blocked

[quick umbra]

snoobert is my ally

[quick umbra]

me and him used to rock that pfp

sigh

[stray orchid]

i would sacrifice all my shiny mythics and exclusives for 1500 rerolls each

[quick umbra]

no one cares loser

god

sorry

..

[stray orchid]

wasnt talking to you

😭

[sharp wind]

which pfp

[terse plume]

Klaris is dumb dont worry

[quick umbra]

the matching ones

[sharp wind]

yeah im an ally

[quick umbra]

thanks

[sharp wind]

which ones are marchingg

matching

[quick umbra]

the ones with glasses too

ugh

[sharp wind]

apoc

[quick umbra]

hold on

[sharp wind]

what's the punishment

[quick umbra]

ill find it

[sharp wind]

if i send

a leak

of something that's coming

[stray orchid]

of what

[sharp wind]

to the game

[stray orchid]

nothing

[terse plume]

no punishment if its to my dms

[quick umbra]

send to me to me

to me to me

[sharp wind]

deadass?

[terse plume]

🤫

[quick umbra]

plsplsplsplsss

plsss

plssss

[sharp wind]

say swr

[sharp wind]

yeah sure

like the thing was sent to me on accident

idk if I have the right to send it

[stray orchid]

send to my dms first and i will see, there shouldnt be any punishment since if they said it publicly they prob dont care if there was a leak

[terse plume]

apoc can you make diego top 1 on ur tierlist

[stray orchid]

sukuna familiar was leaked

[terse plume]

cause diego is really top 1

but we arent ready for that discussion

[clever steppe]

top 1 red key food

[agile phoenix]

I feel like this is a really poor attempt of attention drawing

[clever steppe]

✅

[sharp wind]

?

[agile phoenix]

You? Got a leak?

[sharp wind]

yh

[agile phoenix]

chances are very low

[terse plume]

hey what is this supposed to mean

[sharp wind]

yeah

they are

really low right

[agile phoenix]

That

[terse plume]

snoobert is a real smart fella

[sharp wind]

but i still have it

[agile phoenix]

is like

I won a lottery

[agile phoenix]

Didnt he say he got it on accident

[terse plume]

Yeah i did that

[terse plume]

He said it to not get banned hes a mastermind

hes a genius

he made the idea of the 7 wonders

[agile phoenix]

let me see

even I am curious now

[agile phoenix]

or this all could lead to some poor attempt of a chicken crossing the road trick

[sharp wind]

these are cute

[sharp wind]

no you called me a scammer

[terse plume]

hey give me it

lemme see

[agile phoenix]

yeah

[sharp wind]

no thanks guys

[terse plume]

Wow

[quick umbra]

snoobert whyd u just lie

about the sneaks

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[clever steppe]

3 alts talking

[sharp wind]

duddeeeeee

[clever steppe]

new levels of schizo

[sharp wind]

don't say that

[stuck adder]

what even happened to 1970

[terse plume]

banned

[quick umbra]

my ex still plays av i cant be seen by him here

😡

[stuck adder]

what did he say

[terse plume]

he was stupid

so he get banned

[stuck adder]

is that the only reason

[quick umbra]

someone said he said mean stuff about trans people

[terse plume]

Idk

but everyone except me is soon to be next

[quick umbra]

i asked who 1970 was

[terse plume]

cuz im the only smart one 😎

[quick umbra]

and they said a guy who got banned fot being anyi trans

which is pretty mean if u ask me

[stuck adder]

it's always that

or smth racist

[quick umbra]

mean people will be mean people

[terse plume]

they cant rlly do much more

[clever steppe]

what

[terse plume]

who

[terse plume]

Fr

[sharp wind]

guys ill implement shiny transfer for the anniversary update

[quick umbra]

thanks snooby

snoop

snoopert

[sharp wind]

☺️

[quick umbra]

snorpert

[sharp wind]

i think if they do add it it'll have to have a cost

of some sort

[clever steppe]

a live for another live

[sharp wind]

no that's too much

[terse plume]

No it not

[sharp wind]

i think it should reset the units traits stats and levels ok

[quick umbra]

1500 trait rerolls

[sharp wind]

and you have to get monarch again

[quick umbra]

if u dont t have enouugh u go i to debt

[frosty hedge]

removes the point of transnfering shiny

[quick umbra]

and pay me

[sharp wind]

not even a bad idea

[quick umbra]

this might be a bad idea

[sharp wind]

no cause then

[quick umbra]

snooper the pooper

[sharp wind]

if you have godly stats it saves you a godly stat I think

so you only need monarch

no idk

[quick umbra]

yeah

u dont know anything

u idiot

[sharp wind]

its okay we're gonna do pyseph and claytaki admin abuse before the next update

and they're gonna give everyone a few gems

omg guys

do you guys remember when they added eggs into av

and you could get 300 rerolls a night

okkk byeee guys

it's too late

[timber bolt]

denying this suggestion and wont say why

i gotchu pooks

[terse plume]

can you buff diego to make him better than yhwach and sukuna?

[trail flare]

dam yall summoned pyseph 😂

[low cypress]

your greed sickens me.

😠

[icy prawn]

this better be satire

[low cypress]

it’s not

bro left the thread

[quick umbra]

it prob is

i mean

its kinda obvious it is

[ancient crypt]

this might mean we’re getting shiny transfer 🗣️

[tawny heron]

guys

there saving it for when the games dies

again

[ancient crypt]

ts an insane ass ratio

maybe mushy is a masochist

[frozen geyser]

please Py guy

[rare anvil]

could u explain this pls

[ancient crypt]

we are not getting guilds anytime soon

[frozen geyser]

yes w are

[raw belfry]

bump this suggestion, i want this feature to add in the game

[low cypress]

we are

I’ve seen a floating coming soon sign for guilds recently

in the challenge area for some reason

[digital edge]

do you realize how long that's been sitting there

🥀

[stuck adder]

soon like type soul soon

[low cypress]

slop mention

[low cypress]

no i dont actually i only saw it recently

💔

[digital edge]

I'm pretty sure that coming soon thing has been there since like 5.0

[stuck adder]

died instantly

[royal pasture]

b

[quick umbra]

no

[stuck pewter]

Thats true

[quick umbra]

its only been floating in challenges this update

[stuck pewter]

U do feel like bill gates wen u finally get the one you wanted

and get your monarch on that

[digital edge]

It's been falling through that floor into the challenges area for a while now

At least for a couple updates now

[ancient crypt]

i can confirm

[digital edge]

It just randomly appears on the bottom floor instead of upstairs

[terse plume]

No you cant

[quick umbra]

yeah but its only just now crash landed

i dont ever remember it being in the challenge room

[ancient crypt]

??

[quick umbra]

now it is

[ancient crypt]

cant be srs

[terse plume]

the game CANNOT be this good

[ancient crypt]

whos is that

[quick umbra]

i
m
assumi
ng

pu

im assuming o

pysep

[ancient crypt]

nah

[digital edge]

I can tell you right now it's definitely been spotted in challenges for a couple updates now lmao

at least

[quick umbra]

shut up

foop

f op

fool

[ancient crypt]

bros just typing shit

[digital edge]

[stuck pewter]

what did i do

[stuck pewter]

The game is that good

[terse plume]

i heard people say normal hollow knight is better

idk i might buy silksong tho

loosk fun

[quick umbra]

frick u

[terse plume]

Klaris dum dum

[stuck pewter]

Yea its only 20 dollars too

[low cypress]

real asf

one time i played

cyberpunk 2077 for I think like 27 hours straight

smthn like that

[quick umbra]

yo

maybe this is why ur called brayisdumb

[low cypress]

shut up gonk

[quick umbra]

whats that

[low cypress]

fuckin’ ‘ganic gonk

get your eddies up

you don’t know these NC streets like I do

[terse plume]

I tried to do it but story is such bs

Rn im tryna make a sandy katana build

[rapid gyro]

Bump

[viscid river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1395031160022634657/1395114502785335396/togif.gif

[mystic saffron]

BRO😭

[stiff harbor]

approved !🫶

[sharp wind]

don't make me get involved bud.

[quick umbra]

snooberttt

snooperttt

[knotty mica]

thing is....
gojo isnt gonna be tradeable

cause brainless

is this guy ever going to get banned
dude just ragebaits under every suggestion

[tepid dragon]

bump

[thin moat]

chill bronacho no need to act up ✌️💔

im never gonna get banned brochilla

[sharp wind]

hii

[sharp wind]

lmaoo

[knotty mica]

❤️‍🩹

[keen wyvern]

its a suggestion

suggestions can be before a mechanic or after a mechanic

or suggest a mechanic

and the topic is shiny transfer where a lot of people want it

[frozen geyser]

B

[dreamy kettle]

and they're about to make a fire suggestion....DENIED BY AV DEVS!

[thin moat]

but its the 10th shiny transfer suggestion i think they know how bad the players want it so we dont have to talk about it again

[robust cloak]

please

[hasty garden]

they are not changing them minds on ts

[sharp wind]

ill get involved if they dont

[bright wing]

No hope for us

[knotty mica]

noob

[sharp wind]

@quick umbra you have gamepasses right in ad

[prisma lotus]

add this and remove 2x shiny event lol

[ancient crypt]

why remove it

the rate of shinies would still be the same with shiny transfer

[prisma lotus]

trading purposes

[ancient crypt]

?????????

fuck are you talking about

oh my god bruh

[ancient crypt]

ur yapping

[vernal grotto]

such low level ragebait

[opaque oriole]

my mind has changed on this subject

after interaction with others i can confirm that shiny transfer is not getting added because it is a cosmetic

if you wanted it you should've got it on the unit u rolled on, which is the point of a shinty

a shiny isn't a "skin" it's a modifier

[ancient crypt]

it is a skin?

[timber aspen]

after this whole breakdown there should be no more counter arguments

[opaque oriole]

not in the sense that you should just add it to every unit you want

[ancient crypt]

thats not what this thread is about

[opaque oriole]

unless they're asking for shiny transfer to reset the other unit completely i see no reason for it

[ancient crypt]

i have a monarch gojo -> i eventually get shiny gojo -> i transfer the shiny to my monarch gojo -> i happy

[ancient crypt]

they are

[vernal grotto]

shiny transfer aint a need thats fs because its a cosmetic feature HOWEVER this is a highly requested feature that really doesint hurt anyone

[opaque oriole]

as in remove traits, stats and everything from the non-shiny

?

[ancient crypt]

oh

i thought u meant the shiny

yeah no

then the shiny transfer would be pointless

[opaque oriole]

why on earth would resetting the shiny be of any use then

[ancient crypt]

its to make the units you already invested into a shiny because you cant do anything with the shiny

[opaque oriole]

if you want the cosmetic you should've rolled on the shiny originally

[ancient crypt]

shiny is rng

[opaque oriole]

the devs clearly put that system in place to make the shinies harder to use practically

[ancient crypt]

heavy heavy rng

[opaque oriole]

great we're in understanding

[ancient crypt]

and it is just a skin that makes no difference

shiny transfer is there to not make your shiny units rot in your inventory

because most people pull the regular units first

[opaque oriole]

^^^

if you pulled the regular unit sucks to be you ig

[ancient crypt]

but thats not anyones fault??

[opaque oriole]

we're in agreement here

[ancient crypt]

we're not

because shiny transfer is a feature that has no downsides

[opaque oriole]

its not their fault, and it isn't the dev's fault either

its nobody's fault

[ancient crypt]

yeah i know this

[opaque oriole]

if you wanted it you should've rolled on it originally

or are we gonna add monarch transfer between the same unit now

[ancient crypt]

is that the only argument you have against shiny transfer

[ancient crypt]

that doesnt even

[opaque oriole]

pretty steadfast argument if you ask me

[ancient crypt]

make any sense

[opaque oriole]

i don't get it

your logic for shiny transfer is the exact same as for monarch transfer

[ancient crypt]

i genuinely have no idea what youre talking about

[opaque oriole]

"oh i have this shiny unit without* monarch let me transfer it over" should've rolled on the shiny

[digital edge]

Because waiting to roll on a unit until you might get a shiny is a terrible gameplan

[vernal grotto]

truth nuke

[opaque oriole]

that's exactly why you don't go for shiny monarchs unless you're a completionist

[ancient crypt]

"dont go for shiny monarchs"
"shouldve gotten monarch on your shiny"

[digital edge]

Or people just really like a unit

[opaque oriole]

read the next 4 words

[digital edge]

“Man, I really like guts, I wanna make him a monarch, oops, guess I can’t until I pull a shiny one”

[opaque oriole]

Sure, you should've liked the unit enough to get a shiny then roll the monarch

[digital edge]

Or even worse in the case of secrets that were a grind to get

Like Leo

[opaque oriole]

Nobody is forced not to roll lmao

[digital edge]

Imagine doing all that shit again and again and knowing you just had to wait to roll until you MAYBE finally got the shiny after god knows how many loops of the quest

No, of course not.

But they want to.

[opaque oriole]

Great we're in agreement

[digital edge]

They want to have the cool character be strong.

They want to have their favorite character be strong

[opaque oriole]

Mhm

[digital edge]

They want the rare version of their favorite character

[opaque oriole]

Sure

they should shoot for it

[digital edge]

The fact that every copy you pull before that is just dead weight because you want to save your rolls for the specific unit you want just isn’t enjoyable though

[opaque oriole]

Nobody forced them to

[kind ibex]

arguing with apes😭

literally no reason to gatekeep shinies

[digital edge]

I feel like you’re just intentionally ignoring the point

[opaque oriole]

Going for completionist stuff as a casual is stupid is the point i'm trying to get across

Its the same logic as people who complain that the umamusume skins are tourney-exclusive

[ancient crypt]

no one has been talking from a completionist standpoints besides you

[digital edge]

It’s not a matter of force, it’s a matter of design philosophy that caters to a player’s enjoyment of the game, while also very likely being healthy for the future trading economy

[ancient crypt]

people get shinies when they dont expect them, and if they already invested in the base unit, theyre never gonna use the shiny

[digital edge]

God forbid a casual player be really invested in a character and say “that’s the one. That’s who I want my resources and time to go into.”

[opaque oriole]

Then they should spend their resources and not complain about it 😭

[opaque oriole]

I agree with you

[digital edge]

Sorry, they want to wait until they have the shiny. Because to them, it’s the one character they want it on.

And without transfer, rolling on the base unit is just a waste in that scenario

It doesn’t apply to every player, of course

[opaque oriole]

Nobody asked them to go for completionist content man

[digital edge]

THEY ARENT

[daring prawn]

i think if your goalis completionism then you shouldn't be asking for any time of slack from the devs

[opaque oriole]

Shiny Monarchs kinda seem like completionism man idk

[daring prawn]

game is as enjoyable if you have the shiny as if you don't

makes no difference

[digital edge]

It’s a single unit they’d want, that’s not completionist

[opaque oriole]

They're completing that unit

[daring prawn]

then they should save up and wait for shiny event in events tab

[opaque oriole]

With every possible good modifier

[daring prawn]

that's what everyone else does

[opaque oriole]

What does that sound like to you

[daring prawn]

i spent 75k yesterday during the shiny event to get my skull king units

how hard is it to js save rerolls until you get the shiny you want

[digital edge]

Yes, wait for a single event and know that if you rolled on the unit before, it was a waste. Or not have the unit built at all so that they’re unusable because you’re waiting to spend until you get the shiny. That’s a very enjoyable process from a player standpoint.

[daring prawn]

yeah just don't roll on it before if the main goal was to get the shiny

it's completely avoidable

[opaque oriole]

Completionism isn't intended to be enjoyable bro

[daring prawn]

[digital edge]

??????

[opaque oriole]

tell me the last time you 100%ed a game and enjoyed it

[daring prawn]

your enjoyability shouldn't ride on the fact that you like the shiny unit more than the normal one

[digital edge]

So there’s no sense of satisfaction or you can’t be content if you’ve achieved even a single shred of completionism

[daring prawn]

and if that is the case then just...save to get the shiny one

[ancient crypt]

when spider-man 2 came out

[daring prawn]

like sure i wasn't content that i got normal jin mori i think his shiny is better

i still got monarch on my jin mori

he's an insane unit

pushed my enjoyability of the game through the roof

[ancient crypt]

actually

life is strange

i platinum'd that in may i think

[digital edge]

Binding of Isaac

[timber ember]

damn how long did that take?

[timber aspen]

bro thinks mfs out here subjecting themselves to terrible games just for 100% 😭

[opaque oriole]

Great for you
Now what if i say there's people who'd enjoy grinding a million shiny monarchs

[timber aspen]

completing games SHOULD be and IS enjoyable

unless its a bad game

[ancient crypt]

nagblox

[timber aspen]

maybe you just have terrible taste

[opaque oriole]

Amazing

[digital edge]

It’s not about the gameplay enjoyability, it’s about the player’s desire to have this shiny cool unit they really really like and then getting shafted for a month if not more because they really want to have and use the shiny and don’t want to use the normal unit.

[daring prawn]

shiny units lose all their worth if everyone can just roll on a different unit to get monarch to then transfer it over via shiny.

[clever steppe]

my ass still doesn't get a shiny kazzy, i already got 700 copies

[opaque oriole]

Ey, nobody forced them 😭

literally nobody's fault

[daring prawn]

to the development teams and to me it just sounds like shiny transfer is a monarch transfer in disguise

[timber aspen]

absolutely wrong take

[timber aspen]

to the same unit..??

[digital edge]

They already don’t have much worth with the exception of truly limited units like WL

[daring prawn]

yeah

[opaque oriole]

How enjoyable

[timber aspen]

so what are we defending here

[daring prawn]

im defending not adding it to the game

[opaque oriole]

If you don't want to 100% a completely rng-governed aspect of the game then don't bro 😭

[daring prawn]

it's not worth it

just get the shiny if you want the shiny

[clever steppe]

i love suffering

[daring prawn]

and then roll on said shiny

[timber aspen]

zero drawbacks and all pros

[timber ember]

buddy didnt read the suggestion

[ancient crypt]

what????????

YOU STILL NEED TO PULL THE SHINY

AND IT NEEDS TO BE THE SAME UNIT

[digital edge]

Why do you keep circling back to the ideas that players are forced? Not once has that been a point. It doesn’t matter if they were forced to or not, that is just legitimately how a good chunk of players can and will feel about a game like this.

[clever steppe]

to the point i hit pity for mfs like him

[daring prawn]

yeah getting a shiny is not some hard task

[daring prawn]

you just kinda have to wait

there's a 2x event....ways to get a lot of gems

put two and two together

[ancient crypt]

i spent 50k gems on the event and got a shiny legendary

[daring prawn]

there's evena selection banner

[opaque oriole]

Optional cosmetic that people are begging for to be easier to get
Might as well guarantee shiny worldlines units

[digital edge]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-wow-gif-27296944

[daring prawn]

barely even saved

[ancient crypt]

??

[daring prawn]

[ancient crypt]

nobody is begging for shinies to be easier to obtain

[timber aspen]

its convenient

[ancient crypt]

what r u talking about

[daring prawn]

the average shiny takes like 100k - 150k

[timber aspen]

simple as that

[ancient crypt]

not a hard task you said

[clever steppe]

average my ass

[ancient crypt]

[daring prawn]

convenient for what

[timber aspen]

who wants to do all that and THEN have to go for monarch

[clever steppe]

i spend more than that

[timber aspen]

do you hear yourself bro

[clever steppe]

and i got a stupid slucard

[opaque oriole]

I'm talking about Shiny + Monarch

[daring prawn]

people who actually want the shiny will be willing to do what it takes

[digital edge]

Let me just pull the luck of god out of my ass to get a shiny of a grindy secret so I can finally spin on them, it was so obvious

[opaque oriole]

That's the point bro 😭

[timber aspen]

so make it harder for them because why not theyll do it anyways

[daring prawn]

luck potion is free to craft, 2x shiny event comes once every two weeks, gems are free to farm

[clever steppe]

shiny transfer when most shinies aren't even that good

[ancient crypt]

ITS RNG

[digital edge]

Nobody’s really going to trade for shinies if they already have the normal unit rolled on and built up, unless they are literally just collecting

[ancient crypt]

WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT

[daring prawn]

guys be complaining about anything

[digital edge]

But with a transfer system, people will genuinely trade shinies about because they want their unit to look cooler

[timber ember]

includes you complaing about this suggestion

[opaque oriole]

You all are willingly going to an OPTIONAL rng-governed aspect of the game, complaining it's rng-governed and asking for it to be made easier
Before you say anything about shinies, i'm talking about getting shiny + monarch

[daring prawn]

code a whole entire shiny transfer system for no reason

[clever steppe]

nether, most people who trade want that and is always a big community

[daring prawn]

going for shinies is optional and for cosmetic only purposes

why would they make such a thing

[timber aspen]

once again its convenient

[ancient crypt]

"no reason"

[opaque oriole]

Only way i'd see this being added is if it was locked to exclusives for trading

[ancient crypt]

[timber aspen]

literally the point in QOLS

[daring prawn]

convenience isn't a good enough reason

[timber aspen]

if you feel that way every qol update is pointless

[digital edge]

“For no reason”

people begging for it because it makes the game just that little bit more enjoyable and worth chasing shinies even after you get the main unit while also setting up a very healthy thing for the future trading economy

[daring prawn]

no most qol serves a purpose

[timber aspen]

QUALITY OF LIFE

[prisma lotus]

on one hand, i want to switch my monarch cid with the shiny i have
on the other hand, I want to keep being the one with the most shiny monarchs in my friend group

[daring prawn]

this serves no purpose

[clever steppe]

make the shinies you transfer non tradeable

[daring prawn]

quality of what

[ancient crypt]

this serves a purpose

[daring prawn]

as i just explained shiny units do not serve any purpose

it's cosmetic

[clever steppe]

if trading is a big deal

[ancient crypt]

its for some people not to have shinies rotting in their inventory

[daring prawn]

if you want to put on the cosmetic you can still do so

[opaque oriole]

Lock it to exclusives and we'll all be happy

[timber ember]

then why do you care so much if this got added

[digital edge]

Then why do people buy skins or try in tournament for the skins

[daring prawn]

then just put it on your profile card

holy moly

[digital edge]

They’re cosmetic, they serve no purpose

[daring prawn]

for the same reason you guys are making this thread

[clever steppe]

give them a purpose
make them have 5% more damage

[daring prawn]

to get a cosmetic item

that again

[clever steppe]

✅

[daring prawn]

serves no purpose

[opaque oriole]

Notice how one of them is p2w and one of them is an endgame, competitive piece of content

[terse plume]

rea

l

[timber aspen]

[digital edge]

That’s not the point

If they’re just cosmetic

[opaque oriole]

Then what is

[clever steppe]

p2w?

[timber aspen]

did you just use p2w in refrence to a skin..?

[digital edge]

Then they serve no purpose, just like shinies

[clever steppe]

💀

[timber aspen]

chat are we real

[clever steppe]

we are calling skins p2w

[timber aspen]

yo we are being baited rn

[digital edge]

Bundle rerolls

[prisma lotus]

add this and remove 2x shiny event

[timber aspen]

im so fr

[opaque oriole]

p2w as in the goal is the bundle skins

[clever steppe]

never add it and remove 2x shiny event

[daring prawn]

yes paying for bundles is paying to win he is correct

all of those bundles come with rerolls

and gems

[prisma lotus]

[daring prawn]

he is not incorrect in his statement

[clever steppe]

fuck, i bet that 2x shiny luck is broken if you have shiny hunter

[timber aspen]

it is

[clever steppe]

100k gems and only got shiny sakura

[digital edge]

The reason for shiny transfer is purely a player enjoyment standpoint

[timber aspen]

6% chance 🤤

[clever steppe]

NOT A SINGLE FUCKING KAZZY

[opaque oriole]

or do any of you propose another solution to getting 100 rrs and a skin unable to be obtained anywhere else

[digital edge]

Which, believe it or not, makes players want to actually play more

[timber aspen]

where are you going with this

[daring prawn]

makes 182 players wanna play the game more

out of 82k

[timber aspen]

I feel like we are talking to talk

[daring prawn]

im noticing

[clever steppe]

the other suggestions about it:

[timber aspen]

this is one of those ideas where

[opaque oriole]

don't think about it

[timber aspen]

mfs just gon disagree to disagree

[ancient crypt]

thats still rotting in your inventory

you moron

[daring prawn]

bro so what

[daring prawn]

does it take a toll on your fragile concious that a unit is rotting in your inventory

[opaque oriole]

toxic u lowkey getting on my nerves rn

[daring prawn]

what is this shit

[opaque oriole]

i'm tryna convey a point and ur not arguing it correctly

[daring prawn]

im not arguing your point

[clever steppe]

drain can't hold the beast anymore

[opaque oriole]

fuck u then 🙏

[daring prawn]

im just tryna wrap my brain around what purpose a shiny transfer would even serve other than laziness

"b-b-but it's rng to get a shiny!"

everything in this damn game...is rng

[kind ibex]

vimplos wasn't the real villain

[timber aspen]

ok so

with that in mind

[vernal grotto]

same thing with most qol features/mechanics man

Why add a unit manager when you can just click on every unit manually don't be lazy

[timber aspen]

why would you then decide to willingly make the game less convenient

[mystic saffron]

Shiny transfer being a thing also insanely helps shiny vanguard value to people who’ve gotten them and don’t care about the looks 🥹

[digital edge]

Rng layered on top of rng to get a shiny

[daring prawn]

name one qol feature that is as stupid as this

[timber aspen]

because once again

this is for nothing but player convenience

[daring prawn]

it is not making the game less convenient by not having a system that doesn't serve any purpose or meaning to the playerbase

[timber aspen]

literally zero gain for anybody

[digital edge]

Where for most players, all you need is the one rng check because you’re happy with just the standard unit because that’s what matters to you for gameplay

[prisma lotus]

yea i just save up like 500k+ then spend it all at once and get like 100 rrs and a few shiny mythics, pretty fun but i feel like its gonna have adverse effects on the trading economy when that comes out

[timber aspen]

besides making it less annoying to have to grind up another unit cause you got them shiny

[clever steppe]

just make shiny units non tradeable

shiny transfered ones

[daring prawn]

this is what i tried to say but i got shot down

immediately

[timber aspen]

imagine having to do sjws whole damn quest again just because you got bro shiny

[daring prawn]

just save

brutal

[timber aspen]

or vegetas quest

[daring prawn]

sjw shiny is ugly

[digital edge]

Meanwhile other players will sit and deliberately not roll on the main unit because they want their favorite unit to be shiny too

[daring prawn]

all vanguard shinies are ugly except for pride

[timber aspen]

completely unrelated

[daring prawn]

completely related

[clever steppe]

good for them

[daring prawn]

nobody here is arguing a sjw shiny

[prisma lotus]

i got shiny monarch vsjw then redid the quest again anyway cause i needed another one with deadeye lol

[daring prawn]

what's even the point

[timber aspen]

💔

[digital edge]

No bro no

[mystic saffron]

Kaguya looks cool

[daring prawn]

i don't like it

[clever steppe]

im one of them

[daring prawn]

but differenc eof opinion so ig i can respect yours

[mystic saffron]

Well you’re an idiot so I can’t say much

[timber aspen]

are you genuinely just responding atp

[clever steppe]

i have kazzy since day 1 of GG update

[opaque oriole]

when toxic stops talking imma start talking cause

[timber aspen]

bro is farming exp in here

[clever steppe]

and never evolved her

[timber aspen]

😭 😭

[vernal grotto]

yeah get your mans in check

[digital edge]

There’s not even a point to keep arguing in here, it’s going nowhere

[clever steppe]

toxic is like italy

[stuck adder]

does he know

[daring prawn]

when does she even wear an akatsuki robe in the show

[stuck adder]

madara wouldve been a better vanguard imo

[daring prawn]

and it also just doesn't look good

[opaque oriole]

when was the akatsuki mentioned ??? 😭

[clever steppe]

nether can i ask something

[stuck adder]

and boom u have his sage form or wtv as his shiny

[ancient crypt]

how the hell do you get 500k

[daring prawn]

?

[opaque oriole]

iu leave for 5 minutes and the conversation devolves into akatsuki attire

[daring prawn]

her shiny model is what im talking about

nothing devolved

[prisma lotus]

yea i can already see every limited shiny unit that was added after the shiny event being worth considerably less than old limited shiny units that existed before the event feature. It's pretty obvious how its gonna effect vanguard unit value since they added pity, but that at least was necessary because vanguard units are somewhat required and not just cosmetics

[opaque oriole]

why does the model matter

[digital edge]

Whatchu want

[daring prawn]

why else would shiny matter

[opaque oriole]

🙏 ggs

[stuck adder]

status

[icy prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-smh-laughing-laugh-gif-16005642344163940773

[stuck adder]

that's also a stupid arguement

[timber aspen]

wrong reply ngl

[icy prawn]

yooo

[timber aspen]

😭

[icy prawn]

pycheshcepph

add this

[opaque oriole]

whats up with the rebrand

[prisma lotus]

the unmatched power of odyssey

[icy prawn]

what rebrand

[opaque oriole]

your name

[daring prawn]

who here is a top 1% AV player

[icy prawn]

this is just my name

[daring prawn]

genuine question

[prisma lotus]

what does that entail

[stuck adder]

what is considered top 1%

[icy prawn]

does this have to do with shiny transfer

[stuck adder]

im probably not

[opaque oriole]

top 1% ius when you have uhh

[clever steppe]

is intended that armin doesn't give inmunity to all the rimuru copies when using his ability
because the smith works well but armin no

[opaque oriole]

1 million shginy moarnch vege

[timber aspen]

where are we going witth this buddy

[daring prawn]

thy are tryna argue that shiny transfer matters cause of the 5% damage boost more than the actual model looking good

[opaque oriole]

??????????????????????????????????????????

[timber aspen]

HUH

????

[icy prawn]

?????

[daring prawn]

if a shiny is ugly im letting it rot in my inventory

[stuck adder]

true

[icy prawn]

shiny doesnt give a dmg boost?

😭

[timber aspen]

WE ARE LOSING THE PLOT IN REAL TIME

[vernal grotto]

what????

[digital edge]

I have no idea. I waaaaanna say yes?

[daring prawn]

even better oh my god

[vernal grotto]

chat we lost the plot

[daring prawn]

what is the reason of shiny transfer

[kind ibex]

what is this dude even saying

[timber aspen]

[frozen yew]

5% boost???

[prisma lotus]

there isn't even a dmg boost i dont think, its purely cosmetic

[kind ibex]

does he even play the game

[stuck adder]

cosmetic reasons

[daring prawn]

did it not give a 5% damage boost earlier in the game's history

[opaque oriole]

no

[digital edge]

No

[icy prawn]

so u can actually use ur shiny unit if u already had a maxed out one (monarch full godly)

[frozen yew]

I have monarch unit, I get shiny of said unit, I don’t wanna waste resources for the same unit. Put shiny on monarch, me happy

[digital edge]

That’s AD

[stuck adder]

anime defenders is to the right bro

[prisma lotus]

i think you're thinking of another game, there was definitely a game that had slight boosts for shinies

[frozen yew]

No?

[daring prawn]

ahhhh

[digital edge]

And it was the worst design choice ever

[daring prawn]

then why does shiny transfer matter in this contest

[stuck adder]

speaking of which, ad is doing an "astdx" thing apparently

[stuck adder]

theyre wiping all data and reworking the entire game

[prisma lotus]

you happy = trading economy dead from birth = dont bother adding trading atp

[kind ibex]

the tester literally said it above

[stuck adder]

still not playing captcha defenders 😂

[frozen yew]

How?

[clever steppe]

so armin is bad with rimuru then

[frozen yew]

How is trading dead

[daring prawn]

but why would itmatter if half of the in game shinies are already ugly, and it gives no actual boosts

[frozen yew]

How does shiny transfer hurt trading

[opaque oriole]

you mean 5.7 year defenders?

[icy prawn]

because people like the shinies?

[timber aspen]

bro 😭

[digital edge]

Literally just cosmetic. People literally just want it so they can make the unit they use look cooler. It gives people a reason to actually trade for shinies.

[daring prawn]

to flex?!

[stuck adder]

dude I FORGOT

[clever steppe]

what about these ones that look good

[frozen yew]

Trading is basically guaranteed to remove the traits from the unit

[stuck adder]

5 years for a unit is insane

[frozen yew]

So how would shiny transfer hurt it

[kind ibex]

shinies are cosmetic like this guy's brain

[daring prawn]

if it was good i would wait until i got it shiny before I rolled on it

[digital edge]

LMAO

[daring prawn]

and if i don't get the shiny....then i don't get it

[icy prawn]

forcing ur players to do that is fucking stupid

😭

[frozen yew]

And what if you get monarch on the unit then eventually get the shiny?

[digital edge]

Cool, that’s your thought process

[frozen yew]

Now what

[timber aspen]

this is what im saying

[digital edge]

Not everyone plays that way

[daring prawn]

since when is it forced to go for shiny

?

[timber aspen]

the dude is trying to find so much reasoning for it

[digital edge]

Some people have characters they really like and specifically want shiny on

[opaque oriole]

toxic stop talking for a second and let me take the reins

[digital edge]

And don’t care about the other shinies

[clever steppe]

i hope you suffer the same as me
200k gems spended on only kazzy and didn't got a single shiny one yet

[icy prawn]

u arent forced to, but knowing how much people like shinies why would u force them to NOT progress the unit until they get it

[timber aspen]

when in reality this is literally for nnothing but player convenience

[daring prawn]

yes to make a suggestion you need a congruent train of thought for the devs to even acknowledge it

[stuck adder]

can selection banner giveu shiny of the selected unit?

[daring prawn]

reasoning is literally everything

[timber aspen]

did you even read the original message

[frozen yew]

Yes I got a shiny gohan on it

[icy prawn]

ur only against this cuz the devs said they arent adding this

[timber aspen]

cause it broke down HELLA pros and cons

[icy prawn]

😭

like be fr

[stuck adder]

what is gohan's shiny

[icy prawn]

what is the downside to adding this

[timber aspen]

theres no reason to be against this idea like at all

NOTHING

[digital edge]

There’s literally zero argument to not add it that’s actually good

[timber aspen]

there is NO downside and mfs just wanna argue

[icy prawn]

js make it cost like 20-50k gold

simple

[opaque oriole]

make it cost 50k gems

[stuck adder]

junk

[timber ember]

you can see all units shiny versions in the wiki

[opaque oriole]

and lock it to exclusive units

[timber aspen]

this is wicked

[icy prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-shock-gif-7663484644238493630

[digital edge]

AYE

[stuck adder]

???????

[prisma lotus]

because this game isnt like anime adventures (which is good for the most part) where units are absurdly rare, even vanguards are like 2-4x more common than than the rarest aa units and have pities. The only thing that will really have value in trading is shinies, lb units/skins and limited units from updates nobody played like dandadan. But with the addition of 2x shiny event the future value of all new limited shinies is already permanently lower than every limited shiny that existed pre 2x event.

[digital edge]

DONT DISS THE SAIYAMAN FIT

[frozen yew]

I like it

[opaque oriole]

🔥

[clever steppe]

shit look ass

my condolences

[daring prawn]

if it doesn't transfer traits or stats why would you do this

[stuck adder]

50k gems ok wtv ig cuz ppl are willing to grind that much for their units

[icy prawn]

they shoulda given him the helmet

[digital edge]

Gohan shiny is fire

[icy prawn]

its not a bad concept for a shiny

[daring prawn]

im so confused on what even is the point of this

[stuck adder]

saiyaman is tuff I just think it looks kinda eh in this game

[digital edge]

I wish it had the helmet too but

[opaque oriole]

"my condelences" b t h shksp

[icy prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-saiyaman-dance-gohan-stance-gif-17959878

[digital edge]

It’s aight

[frozen yew]

How does that relate to shiny transfer hurting trading?

[stuck adder]

yea the helmet and I would like it a lot

also the cape

[frozen yew]

In what way is transferring a shiny making the shiny less valuable

[clever steppe]

lacks something important

[frozen yew]

You ain’t getting a free shiny

[icy prawn]

it isnt

[timber aspen]

gohan shiny should have been his demon fit witht he cape

[frozen yew]

You aren’t getting a shiny you didn’t have

[icy prawn]

people js dont know what to say

[digital edge]

I’ll put in a suggestion for the helmet dw

[timber aspen]

they keep trying to find downsides 😭

[icy prawn]

dont forget #1398071103217209555

✌️

[opaque oriole]

give me compensation for these guys and u can add it

[digital edge]

Saiyaman > Kai

[frozen yew]

You are. Now stay with me. Taking the shiny and putting it on the EXACT same unit but is already traited and has stats

[icy prawn]

sakura has a "shiny" but speedwagon doesnt

[timber aspen]

wait till they realize there is no and this would have zero negative impact

[daring prawn]

holy aura

[icy prawn]

and EVERYONE uses speedwagon

[stuck adder]

av will get 1 vanguardilion players if they give shiny gohan a helmet

[timber ember]

compensation? why?

[daring prawn]

i like this drainalyse guy he looks like he grinded for his shinies

[timber aspen]

another braindead take is it taking away the value of an already existing shiny monarchj

[opaque oriole]

Making a system easier while disregarding those who did it originally isn't exactly a good idea

[frozen yew]

Doesn’t basically everyone do that? Unless they got 1 by accident

[timber aspen]

literally the same exact grind but with extra steps

[stuck adder]

it's the same thing with cc players not wanting bankai reqs to be leaked in type soul on og release. it's stupid and hinders the growth of the game

[digital edge]

drop pities

[timber aspen]

split into 2 paths

[icy prawn]

u dont need compensation lmfao

and u WONT get compensation

[frozen yew]

You have to be baiting

[clever steppe]

mf you jk right

[frozen yew]

There’s no way

[digital edge]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-upset-violin-sponge-bob-mr-crab-gif-3466351

[timber ember]

adding shiny transfer wouldnt suddenly make shinys quaranteed

[opaque oriole]

yes bro give me me 50k gems

[timber aspen]

you dont need any compensation buddy

[frozen yew]

You can’t be serious

[stuck adder]

ur compensation is the fact u have 4 monarch shinies

[opaque oriole]

and 1.5k rerolls for each

[icy prawn]

no one was compensated for more drastic things in the past and u think THIS is where theyre gonna change that

[timber aspen]

its the SAME thing bro

[icy prawn]

😭

[opaque oriole]

as a matter of fact

make it 3k

[ancient crypt]

i used to think you were based

[opaque oriole]

for my suffering

[frozen yew]

Like the shiny event not working the first time

[opaque oriole]

and 100k gems

or wait

[icy prawn]

vanguard pity

[opaque oriole]

take how many gems it took to get them

and then multiply that by 3

[prisma lotus]

Im saying we already have a feature in game that makes shinies more accessible and convenient and this suggestion is basically asking for another way to make shinies even more convenient.

[icy prawn]

and many other things

[clever steppe]

bro what

[daring prawn]

what is the difference between a shiny monarch and a normal monarch all same stats.....is it just the make believe status that you attain when you place the unit down?!

[clever steppe]

LOL

[opaque oriole]

and compensate me by that amount

[timber aspen]

[opaque oriole]

nah thats too little

make it 10

[clever steppe]

1 gem exclusive for you

[frozen yew]

It doesn’t make getting shinies easier

[prisma lotus]

im not against adding ths feature if they remove 2x shiny event btw lol

[frozen yew]

You still have to get said shiny

[opaque oriole]

fuck that screw everybody else with shiy monarchs

[stuck adder]

yes everything that u obtain without making a yt vid showcase to earn revenue is just make believe status with no real world value to you

other than something sentimental

[opaque oriole]

giive me 100k rerolls

and 5 millinog ems

[clever steppe]

add shiny pity instead

✅

[frozen yew]

Shiny monarch can look cooler

Or if someone really likes a character they’d want a shiny

I really like gogeta

So I want to eventually get a shiny one

Simple as that

[daring prawn]

shiny gogeta changes his hue color by 2

[frozen yew]

And?

It’s cool

[daring prawn]

can't even tell unless you hover

[frozen yew]

I like it

[stuck adder]

shiny sukuna and gojo are awesome

[frozen yew]

Limit breaker ssj4 gogeta is fire

[stuck adder]

ive wanted them since release

[clever steppe]

shiny gojo and awesome

🥀

[stuck adder]

also shiny ichigo's cosmetic looks way better than his normal one

[frozen yew]

It’s pretty easy to tell

[daring prawn]

i mean yeah i've also wanted shiny gojo and sukuna since release im just not lucky enough to get them

[opaque oriole]

i'm not even being greedy frel

just give me 10k rerolls

for m y troubles

[clever steppe]

go back to your sukuna suggestion

[stuck adder]

10 max

[opaque oriole]

10 k right

[daring prawn]

like 6-7k

[digital edge]

Chat should I just close this suggestion

[clever steppe]

10k star renmants in aa

[clever steppe]

1980

[opaque oriole]

But to be real

[digital edge]

https://tenor.com/view/liberal-tractor-luka-big-pants-run-over-luka-gif-13892143347057547419

[stuck adder]

SIX SEVEN

[opaque oriole]

asking for compensation isn't an inherently invalid take

[daring prawn]

🕊️

[digital edge]

It is

[daring prawn]

1.5k x 4 is

[clever steppe]

i will compensate you with s shiny blossom

[opaque oriole]

You yourselves are talking about how inconvenient not having shiny transfer is and then disregarding those who have (got shiny monarchs) already
Seems a bit hypocritical

[clever steppe]

wait

you kinda right

[daring prawn]

it's a bit inconvenient that i wasted all my efforts into getting the gems to get the shiny to then get the monarch

[digital edge]

Because it has no real correlation to things here. It’d be like asking compensation because they made a stage easier after you already grinded it a bunch. Or compensation for your stage clears after they added pity.

[vernal grotto]

how would you compensate

[daring prawn]

but i guess only tester's convenience matter

[opaque oriole]

Stage clears after pity makes sense though...?

[icy prawn]

LOL

dude i was quoting this